Church & State - Standing up for What's Right with Mark McCloskey

Spokane Valley could become a sanctuary city of a different kind. Councilman Caleb Collier says that this proposal... I'm proposing that the city of Spokane Valley issue a proclamation stating that our city is a Second Amendment sanctuary. Welcome to the fire. Welcome to the fire. Today on the Caleb Collier Show, I'll be joined by Mark McCloskey. Hello, Christian Patriots, and welcome to the Caleb Collier Show of Church and State Media, where we drive morality and religion over tolerance and apathy. And I'm your host, Caleb Collier. Once again, your favorite far-right shock jock, and the show that talks about politics and religion. Jesus Christ is our referee, so it's always nice and clean. Real quick, let's go to the website, churchandstate.media. I want you to fill out our website submission form so that you can get our newsletter. Of course, that's always a benefit, but also I personally call every single one of you who fills this out. 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So, of course, I brought up immediately kind of what brought you to the forefront of the public eye. But, you know, just for anybody who maybe they're not familiar with your story, can you tell us what happened on that very fateful day? Sure. Hey, but before I start, how's the 4th and 5th District races out there? Have they called them yet? They have not. It's still far too close. So we're kind of watching that in Washington. Washington's a weird state. And, you know, we we did not pass the parental rights initiative, but we are passing the no boys and girls sports. So I don't know. Washington is apparently schizophrenic right now. Yeah, so is most of the country today. Fair. All right, well, you know, for those of you who. May not know my story, I've only got 45 minutes so you get the Reader's Digest version here today. But as you may know, you know, back in the spring of. 2020, this. You know, career criminal drug addict died in police custody up in Minneapolis, and the left that had a pre-programmed assault on our God-given liberties decided to use that as an excuse to plunge the country into a state of terror and destruction on a level that we'd not seen before. And as kind of a background, too, I've got to say this. I live in the city of St. Louis. The city of St. Louis is a remarkably dangerous place. The city of St. Louis is always either number one or number two in the country for murders per capita. And as an example, I was having dinner with Rudy Giuliani and Bernie Kerik, the former police commissioner in New York. We were talking about the danger in big cities. And most people think New York's kind of a dangerous place. But there's 8,400,000 people in the city of New York. They had 300 murders up to that time that year. St. Louis has got 265,000 people. We had 256 murders. I mean, 20 times the murder rate of New York City. And that's in the pre-George Floyd, normal, you know, St. Louis as a leftist, one-party state since 1949 kind of situation. But then you throw in the George Floyd effect. And on the night of June the 1st to June the 2nd of 2020, those champions of the left, those people that have the moral high ground and want to protect us from all our evil intentions and be the guardians of civil liberties, they decided the way to show their love for the city of St. Louis is to burn it down. And so there were riots in downtown St. Louis. They shot four police officers. They murdered retired police captain David Doran in his secondary employment at a pawn shop about a half mile from my house. But the most impressive thing my wife and I saw that night was a 7-Eleven in downtown St. Louis. There's only one because St. Louis is a ghetto. But it's two blocks from police headquarters, two blocks from police headquarters. We watch it from the time the first brick goes through a window and somebody starts looting it and then all the windows get broken out and they loot it empty. And then they throw a firebomb into it and it gets engulfed in flames and the flames are coming out the window openings and the roof comes down. 10, 20, 30, 40 minutes we watch this thing burn. You know how many police showed up? Zero. You know how many firemen showed up? Zero. My wife and I look at each other and say, you know, if it hits a shan, you're out there and you're wild lonesome. Your ability to protect yourself is based on yourself, and you can't count on the government to come to your rescue. But during the ensuing month, More and more of St. Louis started getting boarded up. All the neighborhood shops and restaurants had their front windows broken out and boarded up. Kind of a nice pedestrian area between my house and my office here were boarded up. Police officers got their cars strafed. I mean, it was a dangerous area. There's a little mom and pop's pharmacy around the corner from my office, which we used to frequent. And I went there one Friday. This would have been June the 26th, interestingly. And all the roll-up steel doors were torn off their tracks. All the windows were broken out. So I knew the owner. I went up to him and said, what the heck happened? And he said, well, they broke in last night. They stole everything they could steal, and they broke everything they couldn't steal. And I said, well, did the alarm go off? He said, yeah. I said, did you come down to see what was going on? He said, no, I didn't want to get killed. I said, did the cops show up? He said, yeah, six hours after the alarm went off. Once again, when the fit hits the shin, you're out there in your wild lonesome. So one of the other advantages of living in a George Soros prosecutor-controlled city of St. Louis is that you get to advertise your crimes ahead of time, right? We had this BLM organization, Antifa organization, called Expect Us St. Louis, headed by somebody you may know the name of, Cori Bush, who subsequently became a United States congresswoman, and a young black radical guy, named Rasheen Aldridge, who was a state senator at that time. Well, they put out a flyer saying they were going to have a mob action in St. Louis on that Friday, June 26, 2020, because our illustrious mayor, who was about as leftist as you could be, had had a public forum on the George Floyd issue and the riots. And in order to be on the forum, you have to sign up with your name and address. So she read the names. And addresses of the people she had get on there to promote the sanctuary city status. They're all leftists. Everybody whose name she mentioned was somebody that she agreed with. But the Uber left Antifa organization decided that by disclosing their names and addresses, which they had voluntarily written down, was some kind of a tremendous offense, which he had to resign for. So this June 26th riot was designed to force her out of office. Now, So because we knew they liked to burn stuff, and there was stuff in our house, including us, so we didn't want to have burn, I went out and got a whole bunch of fire extinguishers. And because we knew they liked to shoot people, and we weren't going to go down without a fight, I put a whole bunch of guns around the first floor of the house. And we sat there and we waited. Well, Friday night came and went, and nothing happened. You know, we just, you know... skated, and we said, okay, whatever. We'll go out. We've got a little farm about 45 miles out of St. Louis, and we decided we'd go out and work the farm for the weekend, and our daughter was going to come in from Chicago on Sunday night to have barbecue with us, and so we went out to the farm and worked it and came back in in the middle of the day on Sunday, and unbeknownst to us, At that time, the same Antifa organization had gone up to the top of what's called Art Hill, the highest place in St. Louis, where the art museum is, and standing in front of it is a larger-than-life statue of Louis IX, for whom St. Louis is named, and also a St. Louis, where the. Catholics meet every Saturday night to pray. And the Antifa organization had gone up to the prayer session in front of the art museum and beat, the Catholics meeting there for their prayer session, including beating up a Catholic priest with his own cane, a 70-year-old guy, right? Now that I'm 70, I can't call him old anymore, but 70 young, you know, guy. But we didn't know any of this, so we came back into the house on Sunday afternoon, and our daughter's driving in from Chicago. There's a little grocery store about a block down the street from where we live where she was going to go and get some blast stuff for us for dinner. And a Back again, I live in what's called a private place in St. Louis. Back in the last century, the rich and famous, in order to avoid the dirt and filth of what was then a big industrial city, would go out in the country, buy up some farmland, put a wall around it, build the houses and the utilities, and it would all be private property and they were called private places. Still a whole bunch of those in St. Louis. that it's all, every inch of it's just as much your own property as your own living room, right? You got walls around and big gates, and right, my house is on the east end of what's called Portland Place, separated from the rest of the city by. A big wall and iron gates, right? You walk outside my front door, there's a 137-year-old iron pedestrian gate that separates us from what's called King's Highway outside, which is a six-lane-wide major metropolitan street. So that's a backdrop. So we're sitting out in the patio waiting for our daughter to show up. And we start hearing the crowd form down the street, right? Hearing the mob form. And you hear all the noise and the screaming and the smashing of their sticks against the street. And then the sound starts to fade a little bit like it's going the other direction. We say, oh, that's great. It's not coming this direction. Called my daughter on the cell phone, asked her if she'd gotten to the store and out before the mob hit. And she said, yes, she left right before it got there. I walked out that gate, looked down the street, saw the entire street full of the screaming mob, and now they're walking my direction. So I pulled the gate closed behind me. We go back up on the patio. By then our daughter's there, and we're sitting there, while we've got some pork loins, barbecue, and all of a sudden, the entire street fills for as far as you can see. We're up in kind of an elevated patio. You can see south about a quarter of a mile, wall to wall, screaming people, parading up the street, screaming all the regular dumb, pardon my language, slogans, whose streets are streets, no justice, no peace, no racist police. And my favorite one, because it was. Cori Bush chanting it into her megaphone, you can't stop the revolution. You can't stop the revolution. And all of a sudden, the whole street outside our gate fills with human flesh. Right then, I look at my wife and I say, you know, I sure hope they don't come this direction. Right then, the gate bursts open, Somebody pulls one of the gates open. The other one gets folded down to the ground. They start swarming in. And my wife and daughter go in the house to call 911 for, you know, absolutely useless call, but do it anyway. I walked out to the corner of the porch and I said the two most racist white supremacist words known. In the English language. I said, private property, right? And being communist, that pissed them off. And they start swarming in more and more and more. And while my wife and daughter are in the house calling, I then reached around the door and pulled out my AR-15, which I had staged there. And just as a little bit of reference for the folks that like ARs, I at that point had my selection, but I had my first AR, which was a Vietnam-era gun with no forward assist plunger, the triangular four-stock. But this one was my second oldest AR, which had a forward assist plunger, but it was still the second generation AR. I'm glad I didn't pick my first one, because I would have been ashamed to lose that guy for a while. But anyway, so I pull my rifle out, and I stand out on the porch, and I'm standing here with my rifle up in a high-ready position, and now there's hundreds of people in front of the house, all screaming at me, death and. Mayhem and arson. And then. When my wife is walking back towards me from the futile call of the police, she's looking out the glass front doors of the house, and she sees the mob coming up the front steps of the house. And she knows I can't see that from where I am on the east side of the house. And so she never had a gun in her life, a hand, never got a gun. In her hand before in her life. I had a nice Mossberg 12-gauge, fully loaded, sitting on top of this table right inside the front doors. Well, you know, that big shotgun looked a little impressive to her, so she didn't want that. She pulled open the drawer under it where I keep a whole bunch of trash guns, and she pulled out that little Bryco 380, right, which did not work. It had been a prop gun in a lawsuit that we had against the manufacturer. And she goes out in the front. And so I think I'm doing okay, right? I got my rifle. I'm up on the patio. I got about 20 feet between me and a low wall in the hedge and then about another 20 feet to where the mob is. And I'm sitting there and I'm saying all these mean, unpleasant things like, get out of my neighborhood. Get out of here. And I used the swear word once. I said, get out of my neighborhood. And I was being not very effective, but they weren't coming forward. Then all of a sudden, I see Patty show up right in front of me, right in front of the mob, feet from the first guy, waving that dumbass little Breiko pistol over her head, right? And now I've got a problem because the mob's all around her, and I don't have a clean line of fire. If I have to put off a shot, if she gets taken down or something happens, I can't defend her from where I am without the risk of shooting her. We've been married 35 years at that point. I didn't want to accidentally, you know, you know, put a pellet in her. So now I've got to go out in the front porch too. That's when you start seeing all those famous pictures of us standing there with me in the air and her with that little Bryco pistol. And it was unpleasant. It's now six and a half years later, so I'm kind of joking about it. But at the time, until you see 300 to 500 people standing in front of you, ranks deep, all screaming at you, all spittle coming out of their mouth, I'm going to kill you, I'm going to kill your dog, I'm going to rape your wife, say things that I can't say on public airwaves. And then pointing up to the different windows of my house and that's where I'm going to have my breakfast. That's where I'm going to take my shower. That's where I'm going to go to bed after we kill you and take the house. Right. You've got an office. Your office is gone. All this kind of stuff. And it got it really got kind of hairy. I mean. At one point, these two guys start coming up the front steps. And this is, you know, give you an example of how real this got. And the one guy is wearing camo body armor. And he reaches into his ammo pouches, pulls out two loaded magazines. He's close enough to me, clicks them together so I can see they're loaded. They're loaded with nines. Clicks them together, points at me and says, you're next. And the guy standing next to him wearing Desert Storm type armor, light colored stuff. And he turns around and he's got a human shield written on the back of his gun. plates and he's packing a sidearm and they keep creeping up the steps closer and closer and closer and you remember that one famous picture where I'm leaning over towards Patty and whispering to her and what I'm saying is if those guys come any closer I'm gonna have to kill him and you can see that I turn the selector switch to fire from the safe position and I drew down on him and Patty leans over to me and she says you're not killing anybody tonight the voice of reason and And we didn't. We didn't put off a shot. Nobody got killed. Nobody got hurt. Two of us. This is the beauty of the Second Amendment. We talk about God-given rights versus constitutional rights. Well, the founders of this country, when Madison was writing the Constitution, he isolated himself in his house for two years. He read every book he could on government and drafted the Constitution to try to be as perfect a document as possible. But what he did and what Thomas Jefferson did in the Declaration of Independence was not grant us rights as government, but create a government which recognized the rights that were given by God as human beings and codified that which we all had as human beings made in the image of the Lord. And that's what the Second Amendment is. It granted to us as a matter of right, that which is a right that every human being had from the beginning of time, to defend themselves, their family, and their home Against wrong. And that's what we did. Two of us. One of us who couldn't have put off a shot of her life depended on it. And then me with my trusty AR held off a mob 17 and a half minutes. That 32 second. Clip that every media outlet in the world played was at the last 32 seconds when virtually everybody was gone, except that sea of cell phones. Pointing at me. And I knew at that point that this was too big of an event for the left to go, let it go away, right? That this had to, I had to be made an example of, you know, we had. To be held up as the poster children for white supremacists, you know, white nationalist Nazis, right? Well, It was a harrowing week. That night, I went to the office and had it boarded up. I got home about two o'clock in the morning. The cops finally showed up once again, like six hours after the event happened. And so we start getting the house ready for what we assumed would be another onslaught. But here's the stuff that you probably don't know and your viewers probably don't know. Is that that was the first of two assault synopsis. We had gotten a call On Tuesday morning, here at the office, the office is now boarded up like a cave, and all our staff quit and were scared and wouldn't come back. But we got a call on. Tuesday morning from a young black lady who had been a client of ours, a young lady that we thought were a real friend of ours. We'd been to her college graduation. Her husband, when he got out of the Army, went to work for the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department, got depressed and shot him. We went to his funeral. So there'd be times when my wife and I, we went to her sister's graduation. There'd be times when we were the only Caucasians at their family events. And we really liked these folks, and they liked us. But she called up. Turns out she'd become a brainwashed member of this Antifa organization. And she said that what you guys did was inexcusable and you have to die, that they're coming back on Friday to kill you and burn down the house and there's nothing you can do about it. And this wasn't just like an idle comment. She kept Patty on the phone for an hour and a half just riding her up one side and down the other and saying that, you know, it's inevitable, it's going to happen, they're coming back. We spent the rest of that week without sleep figuring out what. We're going to do. So in our business from time to time, we're both personal injury lawyers. From time to time, we need to hire secondary cops to work security. And so I call up the guys we normally hire from the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department, St. Louis County Police Department, to work secondary for us, everybody refused for fear of the bad press. But they referred me to this place called Asymmetric Response, which is a worldwide security organization, bunch of special forces guys. Their headquarters is about an hour. Outside of St. Louis. So I called them up and I told them the story and I said, we need some protection Friday night. Well, they had gotten bad press from the Ferguson riots and they didn't want to do it. They said, you know, we can't afford any more bad press. And I said, well, to the owner, what the heck am I supposed to do? And he said, if I were you, I'd put what I can't live without in the vehicles and abandon the house. I said, no effing way in heck we're going to do that. I mean, we'll go down to the ship if we have to, but we're not going to abandon the house to the mob. What do you want me to do? And he says, well, I'd try calling some St. Louis City cops for secondary employment. I said, full circle. That's where we started. That's how we came to you. So no help whatsoever. And now, you know, it's Thursday night. and we think we're gonna die the next day, and no reason to think not. And our then 30-year-old daughter had stayed over because of what happened. She couldn't take the emotional stress. She went down to the basement, found her favorite stuffed animal from when she was a little kid, came up, gave us each a hug and a kiss, and left, never expected to see us alive again. But coincidentally, that same Tuesday, I'd gotten a call from the White House. And the gentleman said that the president wanted to express his support. And if there's ever anything we could do for you, let us know. Well, now it's Thursday evening. We're going to die the next day. I called that number back up. And I said, well, you know, now is a pretty stinking good time, okay? And he gave me Mark Meadows' cell phone number. And I called up Mark Meadows and told him the story. Second call I made was to Tucker Carlson. And Tucker put us live on the air and said, I'm talking to Mark McCloskey. I can hear Mrs. McCloskey sobbing in the background. The mob's coming back tomorrow to kill him. And if we don't do something, they're going to die. And, you know, a call to arms. But we still didn't know what was going to happen. It turns out that in the background, the things were coalescing to save us. But by, you know, it was 630 Friday night. And we're still waiting for the mob to show up at 7. And then the miracle starts to happen. A guy named Jim, who was an ex-Navy SEAL, when he heard the call to arms, he was a fourth-generation cattle farmer from Kansas, threw his gear in the back of his truck and drove straight through. Got there at about 6.30. To make a long story short, by the time the mob hit the gate that night at 7 o'clock, we had six ex-Navy SEALs. We had 10 secondary employment cops. We had the FBI light aircraft circling the top of the house. We had what we used to call in the Reagan administration peace through superior firepower. And before the mob hit the gate, I assembled all the guys on the second floor of the house. And I said, what happens here tonight will determine the fate of the country. If the world wakes up tomorrow morning and sees a whole bunch of dead bodies on my front yard, they're going to label us all as right wing extremists, as radical nationalists. They will seize our guns. They'll put us all in prison. That'll be the. End of a free democratic republic in this country. So if there's any way that we can make this happen tonight without anybody getting killed, we've got to do it. And we did it. I mean, we had we had these guys had a lot of firepower. I mean, they came for war. But the chief of the St. Louis Police Department, the only policeman that showed up that night, came out in front of the house and met with the security team and told them, you know, sign of force is important, but maybe so many weapons shouldn't be so readily visible. And so they kind of staged their weapons behind columns and such. But Patty and I made a point of being out on the patio and out on the porches during the night to show that they hadn't intimidated us. Two stories I always like to tell. Right when the mob first hits the gate, the first person at the gate is Cori Bush with her megaphone. You know, Cori Bush, when she was in Congress, always said, you know, people always said, don't you wish you hadn't got elected? I said, no, she's wonderful. Every time she opens her mouth, we get 100,000 more Republican voters. Okay. And now, you know, she's now leading a mob that the FBI estimates at 1,000 people. She comes up in front of the gate, and she starts chanting into her megaphone, you can't stop the revolution. You can't stop the revolution. Well, Jim, the ex-SEAL standing next to me, resting his hands on the butt of his M4, he says, oh, yes, I can. And these guys are great. There was one guy, the guy that was the head of the SEAL team, Little tiny guy, my size, you know, 5'5, 5'6. And not much younger than I am, he probably was 55, 56 or something like that at that time. And he walks out into the crowd and Patty says, well, you're unarmed. He said, yeah. You're not wearing any armor. And he says, yeah. She says, what happens if the crowd attacks you? He says, well, I'll put the first 10 or 15 to sleep. And by then, the rest of my guys will be there to help out. I mean, these are tough guys. Anyway, so the night went on. The mob surged against the fence and disappeared and came back and went other places and came back. And then at about 2.30 in the morning, I'm standing out on the patio. And all of a sudden, one of the Navy SEALs knocks me down. I said, what the heck's going on? And he said, well, we were scoping some of the surrounding high-risers, and we saw somebody scoping back, thinking you were about to get taken out. And right then his radio goes off. Turns out it was an FBI sniper doing cover for us, you know. And how much of this has to do with whatever the White House did, we'll never know. But we survived that night. And it was an ordeal. We finally got the all clear at about 4.30 in the morning. My wife and I got an hour and a half or two hours of sleep. My mom had been a big Republican, and she had a flag that was given to her by a congressman that she got elected as a Republican in the 2nd District of Missouri, which had. Been a Democrat district for a long time. And so this flag had flown over the Capitol building. We dug it out of her stuff. She'd been deceased for a long time and unfurled it over the front doors of the house, stood out front, had a picture taken, and just said that we were going to devote the rest of our lives doing everything we could to keep this country free and preserve individual liberties. And that's what we've been doing since. We got a call from the chief of staff for Colonel Allen West, who was then the chairman of the Texas Republican Party, had been a congressman in Florida. Great guy. He invited us to come down to Texas to campaign with him and for President Trump. We did that. We went down. We campaigned throughout North Texas and then later on through West Texas. We then got recruited to campaign for the president all over. We campaigned in Texas and and Kansas and Oklahoma and Missouri and then Pennsylvania, which was supposed to be the key to the election in 2020, as it is in virtually every presidential election. Patty's family is from Pennsylvania. She has folks all over the place there. And so we went up to Pennsylvania on our own nickel for a week and campaigned for the president. And the party put on events for us to speak at. They liked what we had to say. And so the next go around, We then became the Team Trump on Tour. And so we were on the Team Trump bus going through Pennsylvania from town to town to town. And it was kind of fun because we had Tommy Hicks, who was a co-chair of the party on the bus with us, and Jason Smith, who's now head of Ways and Means Committee, who's our eighth district congressman. Let me pause you real quick, Mark. I apologize. But we hit that hard break, ladies and gentlemen. 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And speaking of support, one more time as a reminder, please hit the donate button to keep us on the air. With that, let's go ahead and go back to our guest, Mark McCloskey. And I had to interrupt him. I hate doing it, but it's the nature of the beast. But you were talking about being on the bus with a number of patriots as you're traversing Pennsylvania. So please continue the story, sir. Sure. You know, and working for Donald Trump in those days was fun. I mean, we'd pull into town. The streets would be full of cheering fans. You'd get off. You'd make your speech. You'd get back on the bus. You'd go to the next town. And I had these photo cards that we used, you know, our souvenir cards. And I would pass them out, and we'd give out a lot of them. And then one day, I'd get back on the bus, and I'm out of cards. And I say to the driver, I said, you'd be really nice if I had a thousand or more of these to give out. So I go in. It's like now 1030 at night. We get back on the bus at seven o'clock in the morning. I go to my desk and there's a thousand of these cards sitting on the desk. I mean, it's just it's amazing. But eventually, you know, Tommy goes off the bus. Jason Smith goes off the bus and it's just Patty and me being Team Trump in Pennsylvania. And that's kind of my lead in. I'll do in two seconds because this whole story takes a long time. But in addition to what I just told you about our events with BLM, Then we get arrested, we get charged with felonies that will cost us our law licenses and four years in a slammer. Then when we get that beat, we then get harassed by the Bar Association that says that what we did in defending ourselves was a crime of moral turpitude and that we weren't fit to be lawyers anymore. So that was another couple of years and a trip to the US Supreme Court and everything else. But, you know, and we campaigned for the president, like I say, in 2020, campaigned for the president. Again in 2024. And, you know, that's kind of my lead into saying, after all of that, then on January the 20th of 2025, when the president pardoned all the J6ers, right? And I'd had my radio program then for a couple of years. And I had a lot of the J6ers on that were released and the parents and family people that were still in prison. And so when the president pardoned them all, the first thing I did was I got in touch with Ed Martin, who is a U.S. attorney for District of Columbia, and an old friend of mine. And I said, I sure hope there's going to be a compensation commission. And he said, I hope so, too. And that got me busy. I mean, we had been at CPAC that year. We were 10 feet from the president in the front row during his speech. And there were about 80 J6ers in the back. And when he talked about what he called J6 hostages and taking care of them, he got the biggest, loudest, and longest sustained standing ovation that night. And I said, this is great. We got the president on our side. This is going to happen. Well, here it is, a year and a half later, nothing. I mean, the Justice Department is vigorously opposed to all the J6 cases. Every case that's gone that far has been dismissed. Harmeet Dhillon, in charge of civil rights, turned a blind eye to it. She resigned today, you know, thank God. We had a One of the J6 defense lawyers, a guy named Jonathan Gross, was working in DOJ under her. He got fired. My buddy Ed Martin, who was supposed to be the anti-weaponization attorney in the Justice Department, you know, he's not there anymore. The Trump administration was not friendly to the people that risked their lives and their livelihoods and their future to stand up and support him. You know, I was speaking at the RNC's winter meeting in Santa Barbara, California, in January of this year. And I said to the crowd, who was. Being moderated by Scott Jennings that morning, I said, the problem right now that we're facing in the midterms is the kind of guys that voted for me when I was running for Senate, the people in camo and gimme caps and tactical glasses and a big pickup truck, those people never voted before in their lives. They came out to vote for Donald Trump because they thought it would be their one opportunity to make a material change. And they all feel betrayed. Nobody goes to jail. There's no justice. Everything the president said he was going to run on, he didn't do. Everything he said he wasn't going to do, he did do. And these people will never come out and vote again. They feel betrayed. They exposed themselves once to the system, and the system screwed them. And we have to find some way of drawing them back into the party, or we're going to get massacred. Okay, that's January 20th of this year. Scott Jennings' response was, I don't even know what that question is by, right? And then January 21st, not January 21st, February, let me get my date right here. We had a meeting, my wife and I had a personal meeting set up with Mark Wayne Mullen, February the 20th, at the Missouri Lincoln days, right? And I say to him, I say, are we going to go to, this is February 20th, eight days before the war starts. I say, and he's on his way up to D.C. with his family to get sworn in as DHS, right? And He says, no, you know, it's just, you know, it's not going to happen. I said, what about what about what Tulsi Gabbard said? What about the fact that she and Joe Kent both said that the Iranians don't have a nuclear program and that whatever they had was totally obliterated? His response was two words, card game. I said, what? He said, card game. It was an intentional misdirection. Tulsi knows that's not the case. She just said that to put them off guard. Well, you know, she got off guard enough that she got canned. Joe Kent resigned. And in this country today, under President Donald Trump, anybody that has the guts to stand up and tell the truth about what's happening and how we've ceded control of this country to another nation, you get murdered. Your political career gets destroyed. You get called a traitor by the President of the United States. You get your career ruined. And look what happened the day before yesterday. Exactly what I predicted, you know, last January. We got slaughtered every place. If you had hired a Democrat to do. As much damage as humanly possible to the Republican Party, you couldn't have done a better job than Donald Trump did. And to turn me. Against Donald Trump is a task that I thought would not be possible. Yeah. I mean, honestly, I want to stand up and cheer with what you just said, because it's everything that I believed. I was not surprised whatsoever on the election. even in Texas, people were like, it could never happen in Texas. That's why it happened in Texas because Texas got lazy because they had that mentality. Don't mess with Texas, but you're right. We felt betrayed. And, and honestly, Mark, when I look at it, all, all Donald Trump and his administration had to do was three things, not wreck the economy. Don't go to war, another endless war and release the Epstein files. And if they would have done that, we would have been having a totally different conversation. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you a funny story. Um, I'm addressing the platform committee for the Montana Republican Party a couple of months ago. And I'm the second to last speaker. The last speaker is Tom Cotton, right? Big Warhawk, big Israel guy. And he's there with his 10-year-old son at the speaker's table. He's sitting there, his son's sitting next to him, and my wife's sitting next to his son. And I'm up on the stage, and I'm doing my typical crescendo. You know, the time has come for us to cast off our Israeli overlords, to cast off our billionaire overlords, to cast off our Epstein-class overlords, and give the United States of America back to the people. Everybody rises in a standing ovation. Tom Cotton leans over to his son and says loud enough for Patty to hear, don't stand up. Wow. Now, you bring up a really great point, and I have— talked about this a lot, and I don't care if people call me anti-Semitic or whatever. There's a difference between that and being anti-Zionist. You're right. People in America, they are tired of being the muscle for the nation of Israel. And I'm sorry, a very patriotic stance to take is to question government. Government's all across the world. I question my own government all the time, and I love America. I served in the Marine Corps for her. But I am one of those people and there is a growing roar of people who are tired of always having to do everything for Israel. Yeah. And sacrifice American blood and capital for a nation with no natural resources of 9 million people. You know, ever since I'm significantly older than you, I suspect, but back in the 70s when Nixon was president and we were having the same problem with Yasser Arafat and Golda Meir and we were just as controlled by Israel in those days as we are now, who do we send to negotiate? We send Henry Kissinger. Probably not a Christian, probably. He's probably Jewish. He's probably being sent over there to negotiate between a Jewish state and Arab state. So what do we do all these years later? Roll it forward to 2026. We've got Jared Kushner, a conservative Jew, right, over there, not just trying to negotiate, but stealing money like there's no tomorrow, getting billions, billions of dollars into his bank account, billions of dollars funneling into his company. Don Jr. billions of dollars in defense contracts. You know, this is, it is, it has become the most corrupt government I've ever seen. If you'd told me that I was campaigning for a guy that was going to plunge us into this level of corruption and would destroy the Republican Party for the foreseeable future, I would never have believed it. And yet here we are. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right now. I hate if I get a little hot about this stuff, but by God, this is my country, too. And, you know, I've spent a lot of time. I started giving public speeches against globalism and international communism back in 1977 with Robert Mugabe's takeover of Rhodesia. And when that mob hit the front door, as Steve Martin says, they're messing with the wrong dude. Sure. I mean, for sure. I mean, you sound like you were a member of the John Birch Society if you go all the way back to that, to the 70s, fighting this kind of stuff. Yeah, my dad was a big John Bircher. There we go. Okay. You tend to, you almost can see it in somebody, you know, if you travel in these circles long enough. I'm looking forward to having a beer with you personally, and I'm going to have an opportunity. And I want to make sure to promote an event that you're going to be at in Yakima, Washington. Now, this is going to be November 14th of this year. It's going to be at the Red Lion Hotel. But Mark, you and your wife are going to both be the keynote speakers at the Republican Liberty Caucus Constitution Day dinner. Tell us a little bit more about it. Yeah, you know, and I don't know exactly how they got a hold of me, but I'm sure glad they did. Here's the thing. I'll digress just a little bit. I'm going to talk about the same things I talked about here today, and hopefully they give me sufficient time to tell more of all the gory details. But, you know, the first speech I gave for President Trump in Pennsylvania was in Johnstown, Pennsylvania. And I said, here's the problem with the Republican Party today. Everybody in this room already is going to vote Republican. Everybody that sees me on Tucker's show or Hannity's show is already going to vote Republican. We've got to find a way of getting out there in the community and opening up the door to that tent. And you got the contrast between a country which has individual liberty and the greatest economy and the greatest standard of living in the history of the world versus a philosophy that has caused the death of over 100 million people in the last century. That should not be a very difficult topic to sell, right? And yet we fail at it every time. And that's because the wrong people are politicians. Having run for the Senate as a neophyte, somebody who'd never been involved in politics in the background my whole life, but I'd never run for any office. And the first thing you realize is that the The elective office doesn't go to the most qualified people. The elected office goes to the people that are selected by the powers that be ahead of time, and you can do whatever you want to. In my Senate race, for example, I was a nobody, but I had a good popular support around the country. The recently appointed attorney general, now senator from the state of Missouri, was a guy that was going to win from the day he announced. I was running against him, a former governor of the state of Missouri, and two long-term members of the House of Representatives. But it became apparent from the first day that there was a guy who was designated to win, and he was going to win. And that's the same at every level. And you look at congressmen, you look at senators, you look. At Lindsey Graham. It's a mutual admiration society of people with gross character flaws. And that's what makes up the government. And it's people that are paid off by AIPAC and the lobbyists. And they go into Congress broke. They come out multimillionaires. And then they become president of, you know, United Technologies or fill in the blank, right? Making, you know, $ 20 million a year or, you know, getting billions depending on how much you can steal. And, you know, I like my favorite. My favorite clip from last week was about Kimberly Guilfoyle. And somebody was saying the problem with Kimberly Guilfoyle was that she only wanted to steal $ 100, 000. If it had been $ 100 million or a billion, she would have been just fine. With this administration. Absolutely. No, I think that's very well put. So, yeah, so there's an opportunity to see you and your wife. It's going to be a great event. I'm actually going to be one of the speakers as well. So that's why I said I'm looking forward to having a beer with you is just sitting down, shooting the breeze. And actually, unfortunately, we're running out of time here, but I want to make sure to promote how people can can follow you. You have a big following on X and Chris will bring that up for the audience. But you can find Mark there on X, over 60,000 followers on that. You also, you still are doing law and you have McCloskeyLaw.com as well. People can follow you there. Or if they need a lawyer, I would recommend you. Clearly you're man for any fight. But please, as we're kind of closing out the show, any last words to the audience, sir? You know, what we have to do is find a different way. The two-party system in America has been a one-party system my entire life. And it's run by globalist international bankers. That's who runs the world. People ask me every time I'm out in public, who actually runs things? And my answer is always the same. If you know their name, they're not in charge. What we have to do is refuse to do that. Somebody, I was giving a speech in Oklahoma, and somebody said, how do you plan on doing this? How could it possibly happen? I said, I can answer that question in two words, Mahatma Gandhi. You just organize the people to engage in peaceful civil disobedience, refuse to follow the government, refuse to do what you know is wrong. and stand up for what you know is right. And we may possibly win this thing. But they've been building this fight for 5,000 years. And as Stalin said, two steps forward, one step back. They can take an affront today because they can plan for tomorrow. Ho Chi Minh said the Americans can never win in Vietnam because they think in terms of today and tomorrow, and we think in terms of forever. Well, we have to have that forever philosophy ourselves and put tomorrow, our children, our grandchildren, ahead of what's in our pocketbook today. Man, preach it. I could I could listen to you for a whole lot longer. Luckily, I'm going to be able to do that here in a few days when we go over to Yakima. But man, I mean, I feel like you're my dad. Like, you know, I mean, we're so we have so much in common here and we believe the exact same thing. It has been an absolute honor to have you on the show. I really appreciate your time. all the work that you've done, and just standing up for what was right. I mean, we need more men of character in this world, and you are certainly one of them, sir. Well, I'll say what I left the, uh, the, uh, Montana platform committee with, you know, 251 years ago, a young man stood up in Richmond, Virginia at St. John's church and said, I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death. And all I'm asking you gentlemen in this room to do is give up the possibility of not getting reelected. Yeah, that should not be a hard ask. Well, um, I've got to go ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute post-production to say our goodbyes, I'd appreciate it. But thank you so much for joining us on the episode today. Thank you very much. My pleasure. All right. Well, there you go, ladies and gentlemen. 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