Church & State: The Depths of Evil at the Heights of Power with Sam Anthony

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Right, So it costs money for us to do what we are doing. And if you like the content the cover stations, please consider donating to us. Lastly, if you want to get ahold of us Church and State seventeen seventy six at Proton dot me. And with that, let's go ahead and start the conversation. Now, I'm bringing on Sam Anthony. He's the founder of your news. He's been a friend of Church and State for quite some time. But Sam, it's always a pleasure to have you on, and we're going to talk about some things that may make some people uncomfortable. And I titled the show no More Safety Nets. But Sam, it's a pleasure to have you on the show again. Caleb, always good to see Man. I enjoyed being on your show. Yeah, absolutely, I really enjoy you as a guest. So no more safety nets. That's quite a statement. But as I'm thinking about our conversation just prior to when we started recording here, you remember, back in the day, you'd have these grand trapeze artists, right, and they'd travel around town to town at the circus, and of course the most dramatic thing was when the safety net was pulled down and they do these lips high imp into the air, or they'd walk across the tightrope and if they fell, well the serious injury or death. But that was always the thing that drew the crowd in the most. Is that some is that is that the way or government should be operating. No. I mean I'm sitting here thinking of the trampee guy, and I know what you're talking about because we all went to them, right, you know, and I always used to think, why are you taking that safety dead out? You know, this is not what you want to do, you know when it comes to our government. We were talking, you know, offline. You know, I've been since I've been following politics, and I'm you know, unfortunately, I just keep getting older and older. I'm not what was that movie where the guy went the other way? Benjamin Benjamin a button? Right, that's not happening, you know everything. You know, whenever you hear politicians get up and they start talking about how they're going to fix things, and you know, you did vote for me for this, but when they get an office, all they do is their selling you something that makes absolutely no sense. Right, And so you know, when I'm twenty five years old, I've listened to stuff. I'm like, well that doesn't make any sense. And you know, then you get to thirty and you're like, well, god, it still doesn't make any sense. And you know, they sell you on the fact that well we have intel and all this stuff, other stuff which you're not really here to understand. But this is what's in your best interest. But if you ever notice Caleb nothing ever gets fixed, and finally you come to realize that they're completely full of it. They're never going to fix a thing. This is just kicking the can down. The road, and quite frankly, I'm tired of it. And that's where you said, well, now this is your libertarian views. Yeah, it's by libertarian views. I mean, if you want to solve the problem with government, take all. The money away. Don't let them spend a nickel on anything, right, because what have we learned. We've learned that all of the money that pretty much goes to taxes gets stolen, right, and they have no interest in fixing it. And when somebody goes in to try and fix it, what are they doing. They're trying to stop them. Want to know why, because the recipients of the money, it's their money, they're just stealing it. And then they print more money whenever they have to do something else. So this is basically where they're piggy bank. If you want to know why we're thirty eight truly now isn't dead, it's because these people. Don't care about us. They're ripping you off blind and basically anybody that goes into DC at this stage of the game, in my opinion, is a bank robber. That's all they are. That's all they are. I mean, you have some that are good people trying to fight the good fight, but for the most part, they all get sucked into it and they start leading these good lifestyles and then they really believe they're better than us. If you don't believe me, case in point AOC. You know, this is a bartender that's now worth millions of dollars that have. A pop de pison. Who's the other one, who's the black one out of Texas? What's her name? That's just Brocket. Okay, So just to be clear to the audience, Jasmin Crockett. And if I'm rambling on too much, I'm sorry. I'm just this stuff just blows me away. She was the one to voted against voter integrity but lost the prime got primaried out by another Democrat, and blames the Republicans because they cheated in the election. Right, take that through for a minute. What Republican voted nobody? It's just a way to point fingers. The simple fact of the matter is even her own people are going get this out of here. That's that's we're done with her, which, by the way, anybody know the net worth of Jasmine Crocket. And no I don't. Actually, okay, well, hold on one second. What is she is in that book? Actually I did write a book. Hold on, we might have her in here, all right, Political Incontinence, Jasmine Crockett. Let's find her. I think we do have the uh, the amount that she is worth. So he's he's searching the internet. I am searching a book that makes it a lot of fun. Let's see her. When she first started, she had a net worth of ten thousand dollars, and in twenty twenty four she had a net worth of a million dollars twenty twenty five, nine million dollars. So that was of twenty twenty five when we wrote this book, Political Incontinents, which audience grab. In one year, she gained eight million. So for those of you who don't understand what one hundred and seventy four thousand dollars salary is after taxes, you're probably left with one hundred and thirty right, Okay, So she got one hundred and thirty thousand, but somehow save nine million out of that, and nobody goes to prison. Nobody and ever wonder why. Okay, it's because it's all political theater. Enough is enough, Okay, So this is why I'm aggravated, because it's never going to be fixed unless you eliminate them. Take that for whatever it's worth. You could vote them out. If you want to do something more extreme, I could care less. But all I can tell you is as long as they're allowed to spend your money, they're never gonna stop, and their net worths are going to get bigger and bigger and bigger because they're always going to believe that they're better than you. A bartender is worth more money than you and Caleb. Okay, how does that make you feel this is. A vocated government? For uh? Well, I mean I was. I think I was born hating government. That may have been the case, But you know what I was talking about in the beginning, Sam with you that you know that trapeze artist with the no safety net right, and that's that dangerous freedom right, And that's what our founding father's established for us as a country, that dangerous freedom. And when I look at all of these safety nets and one of the one of the expressions that I so hate, and it comes from the so called conservative or Republican wings is it's it's not a handout, right, It's you're you're helping someone, right, It's it's a hand up. You're helping somebody up. But you're allowing government to be that person that is helping somebody up. You're stealing from me to help this individual. And I just don't believe that that's a role of the government whatsoever. That should be the role of private citizens or the church. But yet we continue as Republicans to allow these safety net programs to exist. I know it can be offensive to some people, Sam, but I'm all for abolishing Social Security. I don't think it should exist. Medicare, Medicaid, I'm sorry. I don't have the government involved in that whatsoever. And to be fair, and going back to the book, we were talking about Jasmine Crockett, but I got another person who just who just left us as a representative from the great State of Texas, and that's Dan Crenshaw. That's another problematic individual. And he had a net worth of five million dollars. So we're getting rid of some of these people, but are we replacing them with people, as you said, that are actually trying to fight the system, or we're just going to replace them with another individual who is ultimately going to leave office a very wealthy individual. You know, I don't think. I think some of the people coming in are trying to do good. And the problem is if you don't go along, you don't get the money from the party. And if you're not getting the money, you're never going to win the election. And so sometimes you probably just have people say, you know, what what do I need to do? And all of a sudden, next thing, you know, nice things happen. They started the bigger buying bigger houses, and they've got all this money and it's all legal. It's the system that needs to be burned down, right, because the system is corrupt, and the people who go in there with good intentions finally go I can't beat the machine. I might as well just join them, because I'm not going to get in any trouble, none of us do. I mean. It goes all the way up to the Clintons with you know, the foundation, and people would donate millions of dollars to it and all of a sudden get these perks. But there was nothing to see, nothing to see. It's everybody's tired of it. So I do agree with you. I think government needs to stay out of one hundred percent of everything. I'm sure you've heard Ron Paul talk about it. Right before government got involved with all this stuff, there there was no problem. The government created the problem, right there was nonprofit So if you believe that, And I'm going to an event tonight, it's a you know, people donate to this charity. It's called able Child. Laura Logan's going to be there. I saw she was on there. I don't know if you know her, but she's going to be introducing people there. You know, this nonprofit people fund specifically for able Child to do what it does. They don't get any government funding, and it was a matter of fact, they get the opposite of government funding because she's against them. So so you know, that's the point is, you know, there wasn't any problems forty years ago. The government created the problems. And then what they do is they bring in people and all this money that they funneled there, only a portion of it goes to the place that's supposed to go. NGOs were the most brilliant one though. Think about that. Okay, imagine sitting there going Caleb, You and I only made nine million last year on one hundred and seventy four thousand dollars salary. How could we make more? Well? I got an idea, why don't we do non government because we can't give money. We'll go to jail if we start spending this money. But if we come up with an NGO that has this really great cause, we could then talk to our other. Buddies and we could funnel it there. But the guy who owns the NGO is. Going to be a very close personal friend of ours, and even though he knows nothing about how to teach chimpanzees how to do, maybe when we funneled the two billion dollars there, he could then decide that he wants to donate it back to the Democratic Party, and that's just his choice. And if he does that, then it'll all flow back to us. I mean. And that's what they're doing. And you can't put them in jail because they did everything legal as they were supposed to. Isn't that nice? It sounds absolutely beautiful, right, I mean, And that is the system that they've created. And I just want to say this to the audience as well. And I'm sure you'll agree with me, Sam, there's nothing unkind about what we're saying here. We're not looking at the poor. I mean, the Holy Scriptures tell us that the poor will always be among us, and we're not looking at them and going tough. You know, like, so what you know, We're gonna give rid of Social Security, Medicaid or Medicaid, medicare, We're gonna get rid of all that stuff, and you guys are just gonna die in a gutter somewhere. That's not the point of all of this. No, what we're talking about here, Sam, is that before the government got all involved, you had the private charities, you had individuals who just looked upon people that were struggling and said, I want to do something, I want to help that, And we actually created more problems, more poverty, and more people living out in the streets, more drug problems, more homeless people out there that should be institutionalized because the government got involved. And so what we're saying is the government is not the solution, Sam. We're saying we need to go back into the proper spheres of authority and remove the government from places that they shouldn't be operating in. Caleb is exactly correct, And I'm going to give you something else. The reason your drug prices and all the hospitalization is so high is because of the insurance company. So I'm going to give you a perfect example. I was dating somebody a while back, and she didn't have insurance, and so she went to the doctors to get some MRI and they said that when came time for payment, they said, it'll be twelve hundred dollars. What insurance do you have? I don't have insurance. Oh, hold on a second. It was two hundred bucks. Okay, no insurance, tw hundred dollars right, So like, oh okay. So after we get out, they gave her a prescription. So we went over to CBS to get the prescription filled and the woman says, the prescription is one hundred and thirty eight. Or fifty bucks, I don't remember. There's a lot, Like, holy crap. What insurance do you have? I don't have insurance? She says, Oh, hold on a minute. She she goes back and goes, there'll be twenty five dollars. Okay. So so I don't know if anybody realizes this, but open heart surgery is five hundred thousand dollars, but if you didn't have insurance and be about fifty grand, Okay, I mean that's literally what it is. So it's because of insurance that these these previews are so inflated, and then they fight you not to pay it, and then when the insurance company goes to pay, they're only paying the ten cents on the dollar. It's this is all one big hoax. Sam, I mean, and this is why you've seen the rise in these independent hospitals that do not take insurance, and they're sprouting out all over the cross of the United States. They about those, Yeah, they've never heard of those. Oh, they're they're great. They're the private hospitals. You go in, you need a procedure, you need whatever it is, and it has a set price and you just go and pay that price. And the people that are going to these they love the healthcare. They're they're not inundated with individuals that are just abusing the system, so you actually can get in, get the procedure done, and get out of there. And they literally are popping up all over the nation. I think the biggest one, I believe is in Oklahoma. But literally, this model is working. People are taking notice, and they're coming to a neighborhood near you. There you go and everything becomes affordable because you're getting the government. Out of the whole equation. So yeah, no, I get it, you know. I mean, I have never had health care, right, and I'm sixty one years old and I'm knock on wood, I don't have any health problems. But if I do, I figure AI is probably smarter than any doctor anyway. Right chat GPT Sam. I don't know if you saw the news coming out about that, but most of these AIS are actually just telling the people what they want to hear. They've actually been able to prove that. So maybe going to AI for your health concerns is not the solution. It's fixed my girls some of her problems. I mean, stuff that the doctors couldn't figure out. It just goes out to the web of scholars everything and formulates it all and comes back with a conclusion that actually work. She was having issues, couldn't figure out what it was. She I said, why don't you ask AI? And I think it was Groc. And she asked Groc, and Groc cave her an answer and it worked. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, this has been like a five year problem. Couldn't figure it out because no human being could read the two million pit pages from all these other doctors all over the world and what they've uncovered, figure it out, put it together, and come up with a conclusion. Sure. No, I mean AI is most certainly a tool, one that we can use. And in this case, going at that point saying this is what AI told me, going to the doctor, and I'm sure that they've developed a treatment plan for us. It can be a tool. I would just caution individuals don't just completely embrace our AI overlords, or they might decide you're not really worth the trouble. Maybe we should just get rid of this useless eater. There you go, There you go. But it certainly is a good tool. Yeah, I would agree with that. All right, So continue on with this conversation because I'm having a lot of fun here, and Sam, it seems to me that you and I are solving a lot of the world's problems. In fact, maybe we have a presidential ticket here. You're a little bit older than me, so you can go president. I'll be vice president. But just going in there, I love how he agrees with that right away. You had no question. But I got it it. I'll fix the whole thing, go in there and just literally shut it down. Sam. I mean, am I the only guy out there that when they talk about a government shut down, I'm like, yeah, yeah, government's. Shut down, let's do it. This is exciting, right? Is that just me? Or is that half of America? No? Every time they shut it down, I go, oh my god, Think all the money we're saving. Okay, think all the money we're saving. Oh my god. These people can't get these benefits. They'll figure it out. Don't worry about it, Okay. If you shut down long enough, nonprofits will sprout up. People will start getting giving donations. All of a sudden, It'll go back to a free market. Yeah. So I'm on the same page with you. Here's what I've learned. Not only do they mismanage your money, they have no interest in fixing it. None. Zero. And so the only thing you can conclude is there the direct beneficiary of the money that's being stolen. The only thing you can conclude, I. Mean, Sam, One of the things that I think we can highlight here to prove our point is we just had, you know, our representatives in Congress and in the Senate, and they decided to vote against releasing the names of the individuals they had paid into this sexual slush fund. So any of our representatives who might have put their hand in the cookie jar as it were gotten, it smacked. They paid off the individuals to ensure that there was no you know, a big hooplaw or something about this. You know, maybe they didn't want their names dragged in the mud. And they had the opportunity to reveal that to the American public. And what did the vast majority of them do? No, they got to vote no on that. Doesn't that prove right there that we just need to overhaul the entire system. It's complete proof. So basically anybody voted no had some kind of if you're part of the problem at that point, if you didn't sexually harass anybody or didn't rape anybody, you might as well have because you're basically saying, well, I know you killed that person, but I'm going to keep it a secret. I'm not gonna tell anybody. You're you're part of it. You're the guy who drove the car to the getaway car. So yes, I find it comical, But is anybody really surprised Caleb, give me a break. I mean, these people are not here for you. They're here for them. You're just in their way. If they could figure out a way to take all the money and you'd be completely broke with nothing, they would do it. They're on their way. Yeah. I mean, that's called communism, right, And we are as a nation flirting pretty heavily with communism. Aren't we. We're getting close. But you know, I mean, I don't think that it's going to get to that level, simply because I would suspect it. And by the way, you know, I'm just thinking because I'm thinking off the top of my head. You know, you have a lot of really good hackers. How many hackers you think can hack in there and get the information about all the politicians that use the slush fund? Right? Can you knock, knock knock, Anonymous? Are you paying attention, Anonymous? Can you please watch this program and hack for us? I'm not suggesting you do it? Okay, but what are you gonna do? Arrest them for what the wiki leaks? Thing? Right? Yeah? Well, I mean and look at what assone. I mean, look at the Look at the price he had to pay for revealing the truth. There, And I mean you bring up a very sad and interesting point there, because this man was demonized more than really anybody that can come to my mind right now, had to live basically as a prisoner no sunshine. I mean you could see the health effects the complications that that lifestyle had for him, all because he attempted to reveal the truth. Caleb, I'm the next asside. Okay, mark my words. Okay. Decentralized news. Watch what happens when I have one hundred thousand news reporters. Okay, watch these people start breaking stories, right, and I'm allowing it. I'm not allowing it. It's a platform. It's like TikTok or Facebook, right, it's local news. But you know, you need to shed the light on this stuff. You need to Okay, people need to know, and so you need to get people pissed enough that change occurs, because as long as they're doing this stuf. I mean, look, my mother has a friend, nice lady, absolute idiot. Okay, No matter what you show her, she doesn't want to believe it, and she'll believe it but then fall back. Right, It's a shame that we've come to that. But you need to keep hitting him with this stuff. You need to keep hitting him with this stuff. You need to keep showing them. Here, here's your proof. So imagine, and you know this, there's plenty of whistleblowers. That are afraid to come out because they're afraid of what's going to happen to them. Right, Imagine when mainstream media no longer exists, five more years, they're done. Okay if I'm wrong, it's four. Okay, I mean, but it's it's that's the that's the mark, and new media takes over with completely decentralized news. And then you've got platforms like mine that do hyper local news right down to the specific city, all the people. You know, you could have somebody in Spokane that is a whistleblower that is afraid to put this information out that all just goes to your news dot com and click submit your news and puts in documents and puts a story together and sends it out there. You see what I mean, all of a sudden, it's a people powered press want to talk about screwed. This is what's going to really screw them. Now. Sam might be the target, but you know, I'll. Well, I'm gonna tell everybody's go f yourself way, because this is this is just free speech that you guys, this was in our constitution. It's free speech. It's uncovering, it's uncovering the dirt. You know, we couldn't rely on mainstream media because you bought them all. So if you want to buy all of them, go do it. Good luck with that. Yeah, it's some possibility. I mean, as you're talking, you bring up really two really interesting points, and number one on the press. I mean, we have that quote from Rockefeller where he thanked the News for not actually revealing their plans. Uh. And because of the News and their I don't know acquisition to the the elites that they wouldn't reveal the plans, they were able to pursue it and push it that much further. And Rockefellers thanked them specifically for that. And so we do need to go back to that free independent press that you were talking about that's enshrined in our in our first Amendment, where we can count on the fact that we have local news, regional news, estate news, even national news that does not beholden to a political party or to an agenda. Their only agenda is the truth and I think getting back to that is so important, and I know when we come back from the heartbreak here, we're going to be talking about specifically your news and what you've been doing there. But also one of the other really interesting points that you bring up is anger, Sam, And we got to get to that point. We got to get to the point where we're angry. When we go back to the Founding Fathers, they were angry about small things. I mean comparatively speaking to what we're experiencing now. The amount of tyranny that was coming from the British Crown was pretty minor compared to what we're experiencing from our own government right now. And yet the people are unwilling to unshackle themselves from this oppressive government. Literally, as we were just talking about, is covering up sexual slush funds. And we still can't release the Epstein files because the Dow is fifty thousand, Sam, I mean, come on, this is huge news here, right. Need to get back to an angry attitude of righteous anger, but an angry attitude as Americans. I agree. I want to bring this up, but also want to talk to you a little bit about Pizzagate. Remind me of that. Okay, all right, I. Don't know about you. That's something I heard about almost fifteen years ago. I didn't want to believe it. And turns out they're actually eating freaking kids. This is sick. It is sick. Yeah, I mean, if you want to go into it right now, go ahead. Well, I mean, look, I heard about it years ago. You know, the Drina chrome. You know, I've been in this business for a long time. So this is the stuff. It was all conspiracy. Now it's coming out as actually factual. They're actually killing the kids. Now, I've seen torture videos of kids, right, you know, you can't see the person. But when you listen to the testimony from some of the people that were on Epstein Island, I mean, who did they? They said Bill Clinton was there all the time. He was like he lived there, right, he had his own rope kind of thing. But everybody was afraid of Hillary. Hillary was the nut job and everybody was afraid of her. So all of a sudden, and this is the so we all know, humans actifice has been going on for thousands of years, right how long? I have no absolutely no idea. But you wouldn't think that it's still going on today and it is and our own government knows it, and they have all these rituals and they have code names for them. Do you see all the code names but for all the stuff like a boy is a pizza or something in a girl? Oh my god. So once you know the codes, you could start reading this stuff and it makes sense. You know, I'll have a hot dog or whatever. And the jerky, right, we don't have more jokes if somebody needs jerky. Even this is the code names that they're calling this stuff. And they're actually doing it, and so all the things that were conspiracies are all coming true. I think it's absolutely sick. If that doesn't enrage you, something's wrong with you. But no, everybody goes about their lives and they just forget about it. And these are people that need to be publicly beheaded. I would agree with that. Sam. That is the point that we need to come to, this realization that well, a number of our leaders are engaging in this the most abhorrent, disgusting behaviors that you could possibly imagine, and we're not doing anything about it now. Sam, There's a lot more to talk about here, but we hit that hard break. Unless you're an alien or you've been living under a rock for the last few years. You know that the price of doing business everywhere is going up. Bread, milk, eggs. Have you gone to the gas station lately? Look, inflation is increasing and it's hurting you. The only way that you're going to be that you're going to remain secure in your financial dealings is to go with gold and silver. And now, I know the idea of buying pressions metals can be a little bit scary for the average citizen, but Beverly Hills Precious Metals does such a clear and concise job of walking through the entire process. It's very simple. I've done this myself. 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They love to rub our noses in it, and they know that the vast majority of people aren't going to do anything. And I mean to echo what we were talking about with with anonymous and some hacker group like please hack the Epstein files, wink wink and release all this information. And I don't care who's on the list. I don't care if it's my favorite politician, my favorite pastor, who's ever on it. There should be hell to pay over these individuals, and I I'll say, like public executions should be on the table. I couldn't agree with you more. And it blows my mind. First of all, everybody has a life. Right you know, you got to take your kids to school, soccer practice, whatever you're doing. I mean, you know, people will have time for their stuff. They're just hoping that the people that are managing the government are going to be doing the right things. It just turns out that they haven't been. And you know, I remember in the in the later eighties, like nineteen eighty five or six, you know, I mean, money was kind of easy to make. It was. It's because there was less regulation, and even before that it was even more And I noticed the restrictions starting to come in after the tech bubble happened, right, you know, so it started to change everything and basically only a few started making any money and it was basically the people that were paying them. That's you know. How it works. It's like you scratch my back, guy, scratch you. So the whole ann Ran thing right, is coming to fruition. And now we're at a point where this has gotten so bad that now we're finding out that the eating of the children was actually true. I don't think people want to believe it. I mean, I know I'm one that doesn't want to believe it. But you can't unsee it, right, you know that this stuff that's going on. And I never I never understood why there was a marketplace for child sex trafficking, Like, who in the hell would be interested in that? But it turns out it's bigger than drugs. That's sick Man and Sam. How ignorant and arrogant of us to look back at the past and to not believe that there was power behind some of these demonic gods, Like when we look at the Old Testament and read about child's sacrifice to Moloch and bail right, we tend to believe look at these ignorant people of the past, they were cavemen, they were Neanderthals, right that they would go and sacrifice their first born to these gods and for nothing. That's wrong, ladies and gentlemen, that's the wrong mentality. These demonic gods have power. I guarantee you that they have power. And these individuals, as Sam was just talking about, that there's still a market for child trafficking, for sex trafficking, and not just that, for literally murdering them and eating their bodies. It's because there is a demonic power to that, and these individuals at the highest levels, they're tapping into that power and they're keeping us ignorant of it. They're keeping it in the shadows, but they are literally worshiping demonic gods to include Satan, and they're getting power from that. That's what this is all about. I do agree. I think some people would have a hard time believing that, though okay, Lob, I would have had a hard time. But after being in this business for so long and seeing all the information, you know, now I know. Okay, it's happening. And what blows me away is it made its way up to the highest spot, right. I mean, it's it's in the it's it's in the churches, it's everywhere. It's like and you you wouldn't even think, like, how many people. Do you know, look at a childhood I'm attracted to that, you know, I mean nobody. I mean, you know, so you think, well, who could be Well, apparently it's a big enough market out there, and you know there's people selling this stuff, and so it really the only thing I could figure. If you're a poor person and you're interested in eating children, good luck with that. Okay, you're not gonna it's not gonna happen. It's all the elites, it's all the cuckoo for cocoa puffs. And you know that's why you saw Prince Andrew right, I mean, one of the richest people on planet Earth. He could fly to the island to do whatever he wants. Have you ever heard some of the testimony from some of these women. Have you ever heard it? How horrible it is? Yeah? Okay, one woman I heard the only reason she was still alive was because she had a specific code or name where she couldn't be injured. You could, you could have sex with her, but couldn't kill her. Because some of the people that came over, part of the thing was to you know, not only rape them, but to kill them when they were done. And this is just weird and they know who the people are. How are they still alive? I mean this, this is like hunting down demons. I mean these people need to go. So, you know, look at the end of the day, I understand that us, you know, we can't do everything. But when you have an FBI right, and you have Pam Body and you're controlling the Justice Department, why aren't these people making any arrests? And I don't know the answers. You know, I talked to I went to the Turning Point event, you know, in December, and you know, I called Mark Fincham and had lunch with him, and he told me, now, this is just one you know, because I'm a little missed. I'm like, well, why are there no arrest? Trump's been an office for almost a year. Why are there been no arrest? He says it's coming. I go, how do you know? You say, I know it's coming. I said, okay, I'll give it this year. That'll be it. Okay after that, bye bye, Okay. I know what I'm doing. But you know, he even told me, he goes Katie Hobbs, he goes Sam, I'm the lead investigator of Katie Hobbs. I have everything she's cooked. That woman's going to jail. And he said to me, remember I am not suicidal. So something happens to be okay, he said, he said, I have got her on everything. Well, okay, you know, so maybe they're still putting stuff together. I know this stuff. You have to dot everyone across every tee. But I noticed when the Democrats get an indictment on somebody for something they didn't even do, they don't even have to dot any ir across anyt and they get a conviction too. How does that work? So I didn't do it. It's all bogus, And somehow. You're able to get a jury in there to convict me on something that was manufactured. Sure, this is where it's starting to I'm not starting to lose it because how does that happen? And you control the White House, the Congress and the set it and so far we can't get anything done. And now we're actually talking about, you know, the Save Act that we're not going to be able to well, I don't know, and I really, I mean, you should be passing laws about getting rid of all Democrats. That's what you should be doing. Okay, that should be the law. They passed. We don't like these people anymore. Get that hell out of here, you know. I know Mark Finchham personally, good guy. He's been a guest on the show, I've done events with them. I'm more with you, like, I don't know how much longer I could wait. I haven't been very good at waiting anyway. Maybe I'm that kid that can't wait till you know, Christmas to actually open the presence. I'm that guy in the back, like what's in here? You know? I want I want stuff to progress. I want to move forward. I want to start seeing arrest. But like I said, I do know Mark. If he's saying within a year, maybe we're crossing our fingers. Maybe we sit back a little bit, cooler jets. But I really don't like that. I got to tell you, he's not gonna lie. So he's telling me what he believes. You know, reality may be something different. But you know, you know to. Me this I understand as you keep peeling back on you and you're like, oh my god, right, there's more, wait, wait, there's more, right, and then you start to realize this cras has been going on for forty years, right, I mean, and some of these congressmen have been in office for like one hundred and sixty years, I think. Now, I mean, it's ridiculous. So they could go back in time to like the eighteen hundreds, and it's obviously I'm saying. I mean, you're absolutely right, Sam. I'm pretty sure Joe Biden dodged the draft in the Civil War. I mean, that's how long some of these people have been in politics exactly. So it's nuts, you know, you know just how long these people have been there. But I'm sure they're probably following all the money and it won't surprise me, you know, I look at what Trump's doing, and you know, I'm no expert on the Middle East. I'm no expert on you know, on Venezuela and on Maduro. But I could only tell you that by getting rid of Maduro, it really screwed the people that that Venezuela was supporting, which turns out are our enemies. Right. So strategically it's better for us as the United States, but it's better for it's better for the world. Secondly, when it comes to Iran, it's all of a sudden he's doing the same thing. He's eliminator roads regime which was which which from what I understand, is funneling money. Okay, people like I don't know if you money launery he's been going through. That's at least the conversation I have with somebody else. They were telling me this. Is a moneylaun that money and it sends drugs in it, eyes, bombs for amas. And you know, terrorism and all that stuff. So, because if the media is not going to shed the light on it, they're going to continue to commit crimes. I mean, why would you stop robbing the bank if you know, if nobody's going to stop you, but all of a sudden, if there's cameras on you, you're going to Right, So it's really going to come down to news reporting. That's going to be citizen powered press, right, It's going to be new media that's going to be able to do it, and it's going to be completely decentralized. So what we do is going to ultimately fix the problem. And I'm going to explain that because how you fix this problem is you either shut off the funds from Washington, which would be the best way to do it, You have some kind of civil war, which nobody wants to do, or you control the press, since the legacy media is going to go out of business. It's one hundred percent. Want to know why, because YouTube had two point seven billion people on it last month. That's the reason why. It's because all the money goes to them. Instagram, TikTok There's millions of content creators driving billions of people. It's called platforms for those of you who don't know this. If you have a million content creators on a site, it's going to bring a billion people the end, okay, and that and the money goes where the people are, and nobody's watching mainstream media because it's an antiquated, archaic product. Right. So what I have is a platform that operates twenty thousand cities. In the United States, but it's local news. I do local, city, county, market, state, regional, or national. And then it can be high school sports. It could be volleyball, basketball, football, soccer. It can be faith based, travel, food and wine, home and guarded, science and technology, business, entertainment. Okay, all these different things I could have easily just in the US. Fifty people a city reporting news types. Twenty thousand is a million people, and that's what drives the audience. So to give you a put us in perspective. Rumble has two undred and fifty thousand channels. You have a channel on Rumble, right, So there's two unred and fifty thousand of you. In January. I don't know what February was, but January traffic was forty two million visitors, So say fifty. Million for simple math. I have fifty seven hundred and something odd news reporters, so make it five thousand for simple math, which literally means they're fifty times. Bigger than me. I had over a million people and they had almost fifty million. It's like fifty times bigger. By the time I have a quarter. Million people on my site, news reporters, that's where I'll be right, and that's where the money goes. The difference is the content week carry is going to be the high school football game, the bank robbery, the carcress, the city council meeting. But what happens is right. Now, everybody saw the Saint Clair broadcasting where you have fifty television to say and the same thing at the same time. Okay, so you have. To know one guy sent that message to all the markets and they were just reading it off a teleprompter. That's how they do news with us. It's completely decentralized. How in the world could I possibly know what's going on at a city council meeting? And Spokane, the only thing a journalist has is their credibility. The moment they lose it, it's over and the public will let us know. So since you brought this up, hit mouse over local edition and hit top stories. I don't know if he's going to do it, but he's figuring it out. Oh yeah, So you just go straight down when your mouse over local edition and click top Stories. That's the front page of the Spokane market. So if you can click that, it will show you news for either Washington or Spokane or the surrounding area. Whereas if you went to Seattle, you'd see Seattle News. Right, So this is spocante eyes fifty thousand for whatever, And if you scroll down the page, all of this is going to be your area. Isn't that cool? So if you went to Seattle, you'd see Seattle News, or it could be Washington State News. Where if you went to Chicago's these chicagoives. These are all my news reporters again, over almost six thousand of them. Think about that Watch what happens when I have fifty thousand, Watch what I have when I have one hundred thousand. You want to know why I'm going to be a thorn in their side? It's because I can't control these people. They're reporting on what they report on. Would I know if it's factual or not. The only thing a news reporter has is their credibility. The moment they lose it, it's over the public will let us know because people. Say, well, how do you fact check that? I don't have to. Caleb will send me an email going that guy's lying through his teeth. I was there. Oh well he's gone. That's the end of it. You're allowing free market what it is, yeah, market, and you have to, as the old expression goes, let the buyer beware. That's the solution to the free market. The communist, anybody who wants to have big government. They're always talking about but there's got to be regulations to keep the people safe. No, there doesn't. There needs to be a free market. With that mindset of let the buyer beware, do your own research. Freedom is a great responsibility. And if you see that somebody is lying to you on your local news then you stop listening and guess what the problem goes away. Sam. It's really that simple, isn't it. By the way, anybody ever heard Nick Shirley guy never went to journalism school, never never worked at a newspaper, radio or TV station. Edie Kine had a cell phone, broke the biggest story, right, nineteen billion thousand fraud out of Minneapolis. Okay, I have almost six thousand Nick Shirley's Okay, watch what happens when I have one hundred thousand and two hundred thousand. Now you're starting to see the scale here. So what's gonna happen is it's gonna go from a centralized news source to a citizen powered press. And it's not gonna be people that are the old guard. It's gonna be guys like Caleb. It's gonna be your your sister, it's gonna be it's gonna be somebody like your your neighbor, who already is at the city council meetings, that's already thorn on their side, that goes, you. Know what, screw them, I'm a news reporter. Now they're gonna go to your news sign up to become a citizen journalist. And they're gonna start reporting the news and sharing it with the community. That's that is how you stop all this stuff. Okay, what I do will become the next mainstream media. There's not a ninety. Nine percent, there's one hundred percent that's gonna happen. It's already in motion. And by the time we get to one hundred thousand people fifty thousand worth, a ten thousand paw guerrilla, you can't stop it at that point because now you have a place to go for local news, and you could and the people you're going to be reading her to be the people you know, Oh that's Mary, I trust her. Okay. So this is the good news is is we're a people powered press. And then because of that, like all tech giants have gotten funded from Silica Valley. It's not a secret. Everybody knows that. There isn't one that wasn't okay, So I could easily go to Silica Valley and get Black Rocket Vaguar money. The problem is, I'm compromised. So if you're truly going to be. A people powered press, it needs the people need to own the product. So we're doing something called an equity crowdfund. So if you are interested in making an investment. All you do is go to your news go to the bottom. There's a button down at the bottom next to become a Citizen drie. Like if you go to the bottom, you'll see become a citizen journalist, which if you want to be a journalist you can. And there's one that says invest. If you click that, you read about what we're doing. It's this is not fly by night. It's run issue. Our company is called Nico Ventures. It's run by North Capital Partners, which is a brokerage firm. And if you could see there, if you scroll down just a tad bit, I think it says we've raised something like right there, you pad no no on the right nico Ventures. It shows how much we raise and people can invest two hundred dollars. I need three thousand shareholders to go public. We're probably around three hundred and fifty. But we're doing this raise. I'll close this out, then we'll do another one, and then we'll do the biggest one is going to be the IPO one that'll be institutional money. You can't I'm not raising a hundred million dollars through five hundred dollars investments. It'll take forever to do, but yes, this is how you do it, a complete people power press. Yep, yeah, I know this is good. This is why I'm so proud to be a part of your news. I love having you on. Sam. We've gone a little bit late. I apologize for that, but you know, I know how busy you are. But hey, it's been a great conversation. I think we've at least discussed a lot of the most important issues out there today, and one of the most important right there, ladies and gentlemen, is a free press. So Sam, I thank you for joining us. I gotta go ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute post production to say oah, goodbyes, I'd appreciate it. But thank you again for joining us on Church and State. You got it all right there are man, I appreciate it. Oh yeah, absolutely, Sam, pleasure always to have you. We'll have you back soon. All right, there you go, ladies and gentlemen, Sam Anthony of your news. Free press. It is essential to our God given liberties. It is essential to restoring and really holding on to the republic that you and I both love, Ladies and gentlemen, This is what it's all about. To support free press. It is essential. Church and State is brought to you in part by a colonial lifed Spokane Independent Agents, Finders Insurance and Mark three to seven dot Com. I'm Caleb Callier. 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