Church & State: The Epstein Awakening w/ Dale Richardson

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Dale, thanks for joining us again on Church and State. Yeah, thanks for having me. It's good to be back. I mean it's been a little while. It has been. Yeah, we hit the holidays and everything and just life. It gets it way right, but it is a pleasure to have you back. And we were talking off camera about the Epstein Files and one of the comments that you had made is that it's really bringing together both the left and the right. Please expand on that. Well, I mean, like I've been talking to people on both sides, and I talked to actually a woman who ran for the Democrats and she got sidelined because she doesn't like corruption, right and doesn't believe in any if in her own party right. And pedophiles who wants to have their child raped, Like I mean, it's getting to the point where this is abhorrent. No reasonable person wants this, right, I speaking of people will all like walks of life. It doesn't matter what professional where they are, whether you think they're a sinner or not. Because even when you go into the prisons, the murderers don't like pedophiles. Nobody likes pedophiles because everybody understands, no matter what you're doing, this is wrong. You're you're absolutely right. That hierarchy within the prison system is well documented. In fact, my uncle was a prison He was high up in the prison at Folsom Prison, and sure enough they had to separate the pedophiles. In fact, when you go into prison there you are immediately asked to see your documents. That's something that every prisoner has access to, and so they have to show the fellow prisoners what you're in for. They don't just take your word. You know, I'm in for armed robbery and whatever. Now let me see your papers. And if your paper says that you are a pedophile, you are well, you're taking a protective custody. You're literally separated from all the other prisoners because they know that there will be retribution. Because even within the prison system, within murders and thieves, they hate pedophiles. Of course, because even if there's now allegation of even sexual assault against rape against an adult, you have to find was it consensual, You have to go through the due process. There is zero justification for someone raping a child, like, there's none. So it's like you know that there's something very, very wrong. You don't have to worry about the child's lying because a child, a six or seven year old, a kid can't they can't consent to sex, right, And it's it's so nasty and disgusting, like I'm sorry, I got no love for that. Sorry, No, you're you're absolutely right. And the yeah, the more progressive well news agencies, you've seen a number of these articles come out that are trying to add some I don't know, some human side to pedophiles. And to me, I'm just like with you, like these people are monsters. But you'll see articles where like I'm a pedophile, not a monster, or you'll see people that say I'm attracted. I'm a minor attract person, but I don't act on it. They're taking time bomb to me. That that's sin. Like is when you when you go back to the book of Levitiicus and and God starts outlining these sins that he's actually telling you a progression. And this is articulated again in Ezekiel chapter eight. It doesn't they you don't wake, they're not born a pedophile. They progress into it. And the more you get into sin, it's like addiction. You might start off having a couple of drinks and maybe smoking a joint, and the next thing you know, you're on fentanyl, methan crack like you know what I'm saying. So at some point in time they had the option to say I need to get off this crazy trade and I need to go to God to help. But what we're seeing is the people that are going so far that they're beginning to justify their existence and their wickedness rather than turning away from it. And when you're at that point, I'm sorry if you're If you're calling evil good and good evil and you're not listening to the voice of God, it's questionable whether or not you can hear him, and at that point, if you can't hear him, you're done right. Yeah, I would completely agree with that. As you were speaking, I was reminded of Ronald Reagan who commissioned a study, a government study on the nature of pornography, and he had a panel of individuals that he invited to be a part of this, one being doctor Dobson. And as they studied the effects of pornography, what they found was that it was progressive, all right, it was addictive and progressive. And so like what you were just talking about with drugs and alcohol, porn works the same way. You may start out where it's pretty vanilla. I would struggle to say any pornography is vanilla, but for the sake of the argument, it's pretty vanilla. And ultimately, if you keep going down that path, you're gonna need more. You're gonna need bigger hits, just like with drugs, just like with alcohol, you're going to need more and more to get that same effect. And that's what this panel discovered all the way back in the eighties about pornography. When it comes to pedophilia, Like, if that idea ever even entered into your head, you flee from that as fast as humanly possible, you get as much help as you can, because if you let that idea fester in your soul, you're eventually going to take action. This is what Dale and I are talking about right here. I have a hard time Dale believing that. I think there's certain sins. Let me phrase it this way. I think there's certain sins that have a searing of the soul to them. And I think with reading about the Millstone and the Holy Word, I think you harm a child. I don't know if there's any coming back from that. Your character is like the devil because you're going after the weakest, most vulnerable segment of society. You literally cannot sink any lower because there's nothing left. There's nothing left right, so you're at the very bottom. And this is why I agree with what God said in Leviticus. If you participate in it, you get the death penalty. If you see it and you do nothing, you get the death penalty too, because you're just the same as them. I wanted to kind of touch on the pornography issue because there's a lot of schools of thoughts on this and there's controversy, but what people have to understand is that certain people are work weak to certain things. Not everybody's weak to the same thing, but everybody gets shifted over. So if you're in this wide range and say this is like the medium people watching pornography, the people on this end there, if you shift a little bit over the people that fall in this, they're gonna fall off the edge. A lot of the people will not, so they're going to appear to be functioning normally. But everybody's just made that shift. But this is what people don't understand. So the people that are make you don't know who those people are that are gonna make that shift. And this is the problem with it now. While it's it's legal, so there's nothing we can do about it. But what we can say is is that when they're putting it in the hands of children, that is unlawful. And this is where we have to attack this because this is this is unequivocally illegal activity. Because we can't do something right now with anything that's lawful. We can't. It's a harder fight, but the easiest fight is to go after the things that are illegal. And they're using pornography to manipulate and grown children and like these I can't remember the name off the top of my head, but there were some people here that were investigating porn hub, and they had some people on there talking to the guys, the engineers and the developers and so forth, and the guy outright said that they knew that kids were watching it, they knew that people were able to exploit it for sexual like traffickers could exploit it. And then they also said that if somebody was confused about their sexuality, like you know, a thirteen year old, then if they watched this pornography of this, you know, LGBTQ, it would help them figure out their sexuality. No, children should not be exposed to this, because if you're going to be able to change the mind of adult a child, they're finished. And even people in pornography, they're like, my stuff is for adults, whether you'd like it or not, but it shouldn't be in the hands of children. And I agree that it shouldn't be in the hands of children. Yeah, I'm right there with you. And it's almost strange that you would find a degree of morality within the people that are engaging in the production of porn, but for them to come out and say like this is adult content only. They're absolutely right. I don't agree with their lifestyle. I don't agree with what they're doing, but I do agree with that statement one hundred percent. Now, Dale, let's take this back into the Epstein files, because we've seen a lot of merch and there's more and more and more, and a lot of the people's responses have been one of frustration because as we continue to dive down the Epstein rabbit hole, where we're hearing from the people that promised an investigation and arrests that the DOO is over fifty thousand, you know, or like we still talking about Epstein. Yes, we're still talking about Epstein because personally, and I'm sure you'll agree with me, and I know the vast majority of both of our audiences will agree with this. If we have people in the high level leadership positions that were engaged in the molestation, the rape, and potentially even cannibalism of miners, I want to know about it. I want to more than just want to know about it. I want accountability. Absolutely. I'm sorry, because you can't have people like this ruling over you. Absolutely not. And I actually talked about this at length and many other occasions is that without having proper checks and balances, you're going to create a vacuum, and in that vacuum, organized crime will come in there. And when you see the systematic nature of this, you know that there's a lot of money invested in it, there's a lot of people in power connected to it. The Epstein Files made this very clear. When people are like, oh, conspiracy, conspiracy. People are like, now, after seeing the Epstein Files, everything you said makes perfect sense. I'm like, yes, I'm like I've seen this kind of stuff my whole life, most of my life, and so I mean, we have to stop this. And one of the things what we did here, and we did this in the States, but we're doing pushing it forward here in Alberta. The Petition for Redress of Grievances. This is the strong youngest thing that the people can take, especially in the United States, when you have quotified into your First Amendment, Because when you have a grievance, and this is a pretty big one, you have the right to bring it before the government and they don't have a they can't tell you no, and of course they're going to try and protect themselves. But this is where the will of the people have to be exercised because people need to understand the true force of the human will. This is what this whole spiritual battle is, is that the devil is trying to circumvent your will. They give you the job to plague your mind. They're poisoning you to plague your mind so you can't make proper decisions because what you choose to do, no one can force you, right, And so if they can manipulate your brain, they're gonna get you to make worse choices. And this is what it is. They want more pedophiles, and we need to stop them. And the people have to be the ones to push the envelope and not relent, because it's either we do this through the law or you're gonna wait till bloodshed and they have us figured out and we will never win. And that was actually the point I was going to bring up Dale, is will we will we do anything about this? Because you bring up some great points utilizing the First Amendment right that they're exercising the freedom of speech, so that we are talking about it, it does not matter who says we're still talking about Epstein. Yeah, we're never gonna stop talking about Epstein. But we are going to exercise that freedom of speech. We're also going to exercise the right to petition our government for a redress up our grievances. And I have a pretty big grievance with a government that is covering up and more than likely participating in what was going on at Epstein's little Pleasure Island. But it seems dale that they're almost rubbing our noses in it. It's almost like they're like, yep, you're being led, You're being governed by a bunch of satanic, pedophile cannibals, and you're not gonna do a darn thing about it. And it's because they've they've weakened the population and they've attacked, they've attacked the men that would that would fight this, and because their ideology is it's the same no matter where I look, like people can sit down and look at all the various groups and all that sort of stuff, which is fine, but with the amount of time, we don't have that. But I understand their pattern of thinking and I've seen it everywhere. No matter where I go they show me the group, I look at what they're doing and I'm like, yes, these are people are criminals because they match X, Y, and z in the pattern of behavior. And this is what we should be looking at because the Bible does this because if God had to identify every single group, the Bible would not it would be unreadable. Right, So he describes things so that you know what the servants of the devil are like, right, no matter where they are, what they look like. And what we need to do is we need to focus on that and come together and push them because the redress of grievances. People don't understand how powerful this is. Go back to the Decoration of Independence. The last thing before they the causes that impelled separation was our humble petitions were met with repeated injury. This tells them that this is the last straw. You don't get any other chances, and you need to do your job or else. And that's implied by the very factor coming in there. But they want the We need the men to do this because specifically because the men were the ones who created the constitution. It was never designed for women, and not in the fact that it didn't protect women, but it was designed for men to go and teach their families about it, and men to come in and deal with it. And it's if you look at the layout and the way it is, you can see that this is male type thinking that was done for this. It's not about feelings or anything else. It's like, this is cut and dry, and the man would account for what was going on with his family and go out and execute what needs to be done. And so there's a mechanism in place, but it's going to take a lot of force that is masculine type force, not because women don't do this very well, and men are fighting other men in this area and this is what we need to do and need to get up and puestion them. I would absolutely agree with that, and you know I would say the first step, as you just said, dust off that declaration. All right. Let's just for what we're dealing with right now, all right. The Constitution is more the brains of this of the United States, right It's how we're supposed to operate, or how the government is supposed to operate the powers that they have. So let's let's forego that right now and let's focus on the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence. All right, Let's look at that, examine our government and start using as you just said that petition process, right, we have these issues with you government, and you know what, you have proven yourself to no longer be a government that is actually designed to secure the rights of the people. And so we are going to exercise the authority given to us in that Declaration of Independence to replace you with one that actually will. And I know that's some strong language, and I know nobody wants to be the first nail to stand up because you're going to get hammered. But Dale, I think that's what it's going to take. I mean, already being done, and I've been hammered for it because we've dropped petitions in Colorado, Michigan, Texas, Arizona, and then Alberta and Saskatchewan. Then we're going to go federally here. We plan to go federally in the United States because the people have to get behind this and they have to be they're the force multiplier. And I'm like, I've been trying to teach people how to do this, because there's a specific way that petitions for redress of grievances have to be done. Because this was the common law practice that came from the Westminster parliamentary system. Which both of our legal systems came from. That was codified, but they kind of quietly just said nothing about it and let it fall by the wayside. And this was done by design because they didn't want people to do this because the people determine how the urgency of the matter, not the government, and it's their job as long as it fits the form to bring it there. And then the extenuating circumstances of what it is determines that they can't actually use these types of things because what is the consequence. So if it's not perfect, they still have to accept it, but they don't want to because they're getting pressured by the pedophiles. So this is where the people have to come together and say enough's enough, and we're going to force you to do it because you're going to do it or else, because they need to begin to see the people getting mad and coming out there, and especially the men, because one hundred men is women is an inconvenience. One hundred men, that's a different story. It's terrifying to them. It's exactly it. And we need the men and the women to work together so that they played their stress because women are great on organizing and planning and networking and so forth, and then the men can get together to strategize on how to deal with this because we're literally fighting a war even though there's no weapons. And speaking of war, I want to bring this up because I think this is really important. But I tire of their playbook, Dale, because they've been doing the same thing over and over and over again. And I'll give it to them, it's because it works. But we just had these this this latest release with the Epstein files. We had Pam Bondy, which was absolutely atrocious. Okay, I don't agree with the Democrats on a lot of things, but they looked pretty good as they were questioning Pam Bondy along with Thomas Massey. And then we, you know, we have the Clintons. They've just been brought into you know, closed meeting sessions where they had to explain their relationships with Epstein. And then what happens war? Of course, Dale, we're gonna have a war because let's distract the people from what we actually think is important and let's go invade a different sovereign country. And in this case, as Rubio just said, it's because we were dragged into this war because we knew Israel was going to attack first, and Iran would respond with attacks on the US, so we got dragged into a war. I mean, at the end of the day, the timing of it is not it's less than stellar. Let's just say like I mean, like I said, we're discussing. I said, am I disappointed that somebody who was slaughtering Christians is dead? No, but I'm sitting down and saying do we know all the circumstances. No, we don't, but there's always going to be some wrong justifications because pretty much every war is like this, And I feel sorry for the innocent people who are going to die, the criminals, the terrorists, and the I don't feel any sympathy for them because they're the ones who are pissing in everybody's corn flakes. So I don't don't don't mind that, But the timing of this, of going in when this is going on, is terrible, and we can't let this go. I'm sorry, this is a hard line in the send. I would rather forego what was going on in Iran and on the other side of the world and deal with the pedophiles here, because how can we have proper government if we're if we've got pedophiles like I mean, they're destroying our countries by destroying our future generations and destroying the parents knowing there's nothing they can do when people are stealing their kids and raping them. You're you're absolutely right. And Dale, I said something on a recent show, and I want to throw this at you because it was a bold statement, a very controversial statement, but I wouldn't get your take on it. And before I say it, let me just preface this by saying, I believe that Islam is a false religion. I believe that Mohammad is a false prophet. I don't subscribe to this. I would point everybody to Jesus Christ. But I did a compare contrast on a recent show, and I was talking about the evidence to suggest that our government in the United States, that it is filled with Satanic pedophile cannibals that were visiting Epstein's island. Then I look at Islam and I look at the writings in the Qoran and what they taught about Jesus Christ. Now, in the Koran, they believe he was a prophet. They don't believe he was a son of God, but they believe he was a prophet, and they hold him in high esteem. So when I do a comparing contrast Satanic pedophile cannibals and Islam, I would say, I actually have more in common with Islam than I do with these guys. It's true. Because the average person in Islam doesn't want to rake kids, right, Like, I mean, yes, there's some things that Muhammad did whatever, but they're like, they love their kids, and that's a rational response. And I can go listen, I can go to pretty much anybody, doesn't matter their religion. Most people, even bad people, don't want their kids rape. Go to a mafia boss. See if somebody wants, he's gonna kill everybody who touches this kid. Right. So this is something that is so vile that even the criminals will say that that's too far. Yeah, And that's what we were talking about in the beginning of the show with the hierarchy of prisoners. It doesn't matter what crime you've committed. Pedophile or pedophilia is something that everybody universally knows, just because of how we're created, that this is one of the greatest evils out there, and that people who participate in it should be dealt with accordingly, and so I'm struggling right now, Dale, with this whole war in Iran. Number One, I'm very libertarian. I don't want to get involved in these foreign entanglements, which is what our founding fathers told us not to do. But we don't want to get involved in all these different wars. We've already been in perpetual wars since two thousand and one, two thousand and two time frame. People born in that generation they've never not known war. And here we go again. We just invaded Venezuela. The United States invaded Venezuela. No matter what they say, they kidnapped the president of Venezuela. If they were to do that in the United States, we would consider that an act of war. But we just did that. Now we're bombing Iran. We've already had as of this episode, it's recorded on three to three twenty six, but we've had six servicemen die from this war. And I'm done with it, Dale, And I want to go back, as you just said, to dealing with what's actually important, actually that America first policy, making America great again, and dealing with these sikos that leading our government. And this is why you know. This is why the grassroots is important, because this is where the power in any country flows from, is from the ground up. And they want people to feel like they can't do anything and that they're what they're doing is meaningless, because then they can get away with what they're doing. And it's very clear the Declaration of Independence says that the governments derive their just powers from the consent of the government. They also know that tyrannical measures will go so far because most people, it says, they will try to suffer evils while evils are sufferable and so but everybody's going to have a breaking point. But the point with that they're trying to get people to break is to overreact. And this is why we need to have the right people to start helping to organize in the grassroots because this isn't just like people look at it as the politics, but this is not political, I'm sorry, raping kids. This is a straight moral issue. And if you have if you have people in government that are raping kids, then this is not just This is crime. I don't care. It's not political. It's crime. You can say it's politics, but at the base root, it's crime. It's the violence crime, and it's the worst sin. And I don't care because they need to be ripped out of every country. There should be not a single pedophile in government. And until that is done, we're not done. I completely agree with Dale on that one. 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As Dale was saying, we need the grassroots, and with every grassroots, if we go back to our founding fathers. One of the big things that made sure that this experiment in liberty was successful were two people, all right, two people to mus Pain and Samuel Adams, And both of them used propaganda in the good sense of the term, all right to get the American people behind them into this experiment, into fighting the good fight. And so if you like independent media, please consider coming on board and supporting us. All right, with that, let's go back to our conversation with Dale. Dale once again, I appreciate your honesty, I appreciate how active and how much action you take against the sycophants. But I want to spend this last fifteen minutes that we have here on tangible things, because people know, I mean people that have been watching, people that watch your show, my show, they know we've got a whole slew of problems, but oftentimes we can so focus on that that we can get depressed or apathetic. You are a man above all men that I've interviewed that really takes action. Can you walk through some of the steps that people can take at their local level to be effective? Well? Yeah, like I mean, you want to come and go in and engage with the government, You want to engage with every other party. You want to start crossing the floor forget about talking points right now and political divide because this is not a left or right issue. This is a human being issue. We need to come together to protect children because most people on the left and right they want a lot of the similar things, and we're not talking about the deranged people that they're pushing on social media. The person next to you, live next to you is not like that, right, and so we need to start putting that stuff aside and start having these conversations like, for example, if you're in the States, if you're in Arizona, if you're in Colorado, if you're in Michigan, you're in Texas, reach out to me because we've already got petitions in there. We can help army with them. There's an action plan that this ties to the trafficking, It ties to like a lot of the other things that were going on, like the abuses, because we know that Epstein and those guys were tied to the COVID with Bill Gates and all of them. So this is all tied together where you can go ahead and start coming together to hold your government accountable. And if you're in Canada, we've got here in Alberta's Siskatchewan. We're about to do something federally and we want to teach people. I'm trying to teach people how you guys can take back your rights because people need to understand how to use the Constitution the way it was designed and that's really it. And then keep talking to your neighbor. Think about it as being a Christian, you can hate the sin, but love the sinner. I talk to a lot of people that are in the for example, in the pornography industry, and a lot of people don't understand how a lot of them got there. But the fact of the matter is every single one of them that I've talked to, they don't like the pedophilia. Some people. Once you go into something like that, you're trapped. So we have to begin to start thinking and separate the sin from the sinner because we don't know how they got there. And many of them want to leave, and some of them have left. And I've learned a lot about this whole situation because they see things that none of us don't. You a lot of things. I love what you just said there, and it reminds me of Jesus, who didn't go to the religious leadership. In fact, didn't think too highly of the Pharisees and Sadducees. No, he went to the tax collectors, he went to the prostitutes. And I tell you, ladies and gentlemen, within the church, we really need a mindset flip, and we need to recognize get the worst of us the people that we look down on, you know, we look down on our nose, and oh man, I may be a sinner, but I haven't done that and I haven't done that sin. I'm not like that person. Those people that you're looking down on. If you can get them to the saving grace, that knowledge of Jesus Christ, they are going to be absolute warriors. These are the people, Daleen, you can attest and I'll turn it over to you in a second here, but these are the people they're going to say, I came out of the porn industry, I lived that lifestyle. I'm on fire for Jesus, and I'm going right back into pornography to take people out of it, to start telling them about that there's another way. There's a way where you don't have to look in the mirror and hate yourself, where you don't have to cover up the pain with drugs and alcohol. Know that you can have this knowledge, this this love of Christ. That's the kind of people that I want to partner with. Dale Yes, And that's true. Like I mean, like I was doing this on a podcast with my daughter and we're talking about rehab. When rehab was talking to those spies she understood things that most people did not. She was a very intelligent woman, and she also had a good relationship with her father because the way that she said things, she got that information from talking with a man, and when she asked to save not just her but her whole father's house, showing that she had a good relationship with her father, and that was something was done to force her into that situation just because a man would not allow that to appen. He his daughter, but they did something wrong, which we don't know, but from what we see, we can see that she respected and loved her father, and that shows that he didn't abuse her. So a lot of these women that I see that come across that are in these situations, they're extremely intelligent, very intelligent, and a lot of them have compassion for people and want to do good. And then when I listened to their life story, I'm like, wow, well, this is a spiritual war because they're trying to take away people that would have done very good service for God had they not gotten destroyed, and then it would separate them from working with men who would need women with that capabilities to go ahead and lead. And when I begin to sit down and think about this is like, this makes more sense because the devil is wanting to separate and weaken the population so that he could come in and take control. Because the more people that you have leaders, you have a man and a woman that are both leader mindset, They're going to raise children that are leaders and so forth. And if you're the devil, you don't want God to create more leaders in his camp because you're going to get overrun a lot faster. Yeah, I would agree with that. The devil is terrified, especially those that he had his hands on. He had a firm grasp on their lives with both hands, and they come out of that what a threat they are to the enemy and to his plans. And so Christians, I would reiterate, like, we really need to have that shift that Jesus' mentality of going amongst the tax collectors and the prostitutes and every other sin that ails these people, the extreme elements, the drug addicts, and say, hey, these guys are gonna be warriors in the camp of Jesus Christ. Let's free them and then set them free to go and do the work that God has designed them to do well. And I understand that because I was a drug addicate, alcoholic and all that kind of stuff. And I mean, I saw a lot of this is where I see a lot of this because the drug trade and the human trafficking trade they go hand in hand. And after it got down, I remember when I, you know, said you know what, God, somebody tried to kill me. And then I was in the like within you know, God sent a crackhead to save my life. And then I was later in the drunk tank and I remember I was like, Okay, I'm done. I remember kneeling down there and said, God, I am done. I'm done running, I'm done fighting. Whatever you want me to do, I'll do it. And after that I was like, okay, Sure, obviously everything wasn't completely straight because you still have to learn, but I was like, I don't care. When I was sleeping in my car, nobody was there, but you cared for me. People were trying to take my life. You preserved me. So I'm like, Okay, whatever you want me to do, I'm going to do it. And I don't care what anybody says. Too bad, right, Like that's just it too bad? Sure, can you talk a little bit about that. You know, once you found your identity in Christ and once he put you on the mission that he had designed. Can you just talk about, just on that personal emotional level, what that felt like for you to go from a drug addict, sleeping in your car, homeless people are literally trying to kill you to now I am a Christian and He has given me a mission and purpose. Well, you know, it was kind of like the prodigal son because I was raised as a Christian and then you know, kind of figured wanted to do my own thing, you know, that kind of stuff, and it took me where I didn't want to go. And I had struggles, right and I mean like I had issues with my oldest daughter getting taken by this state and I had to fight and that crushed me. Like, I mean, I got her back, but it was it warmed me out. But when I got to that point, it was like something in my brain clicked. God was not that person I thought he was. Like he made more sense to me. And then when I had my younger daughter, I began to see him in a more personal level that he is looking out for my best interest and that when he gives you value and you understand that God who can't die like He is the source of life. He can do everything, gave that up to live as a man like that. I can't even begin to comprehend that that he can die so that he could save me. I'm like, Okay, when somebody shows me that kind of love, I'm going to do whatever they want that there's no question. Yeah, it's so heartwarming to hear. I can literally feel the emotion welling up in me because I have a similar story, you know, and I've been a screw up. Say this all the time on my show. I've been a screw up for a lot of my life. And it's when you get that connection to God and start to work through your mission and your purpose the plans that God has for you, that you actually start to come alive in ways that you never could have comprehended before. And every single thing, every single thing that Satan introduces to you, whether it's drugs or gambling, or alcohol or pornography, all of them are designed to give you that little, tiny hitted dopamine, a right, that little feel good. But when you go home at the end of the day, you just find yourself empty. Right the the enjoyments of this world, they're vapid, they're shallow, and so actually focusing on something which I would I would say is the most important thing, the creator of it all. It's going to fill you in ways that you've just been stumbling reaching for, never able to grasp. One thing I want to say is that what they're doing right now is theresaspering and making this addiction thing worse, because when people are suffering, they want to soothe their suffering, and then this will even if someone is not maybe an addict, they're gonna start doing this because they're putting them under a lot of pressure, which is what's happening right now. And we need to have more compassion for people like this and reach out to them because a lot of them we don't know. Who are the people who want to be that way and don't care, or the people who want to get out but they don't know the way out, and the ones who don't know the way out, and when they're shown the way out, they will cling to Jesus. Look at Paul. Paul was going after Christians. Look at Manassa. Manassa was serving bail, and when Manassa came to God and repented, he hunted them down more than anyone else because he understood where he came from. And this is what the devil doesn't want. And this is when I see people attacking people who are coming to Jesus. We should not do this because how many people the servants of God are you trying to destroy? It's so incredibly well said. Well, Dale, we're coming up on the end of the show. I want to get everybody to follow you, and so I want to share your website here. This is Dsrcrisconsulting dot com. But Dale, you do so much more. I mean, you're on substack, You're all over the place. So how can people follow you? Now? You can follow me at DJs richardson on x and also on fruit Social. You can follow the Caras Project on Rumble, Facebook, bitch You. We're on pretty much YouTube and so forth. And you can come to Dsrcarresconsulting dot com and there's the Cares Project and the Cares Project Action Plan. The action plan actually has a lot of the petitions and there's also a contact form there as well, and it shows you the steps that we're taking. And this is what we want to replicate for the people to use the strongest piece of a legal action that they can take to defend their rights, because this is about the protection of rights, and we want to come together to get the people to push the people to do what is right, because if they don't, then there's the door and it doesn't matter what the government does. We want the people to see the reaction of the government because if you're saying I'm coming here for my constitutional rights, I want to protect the children, if they act in a certain kind of way, then other people will wake up and be like, what, you don't want to protect children? Because this is really what it's all about. If we don't protect the children, we got nothing. Yeah, you're absolutely right. That is probably our most precious resource. We need to protect them. Odell, it's always a pleasure to talk with you, always a pleasure to have you on Church and State. I got to offer an apology to you. I know, the US just came and show the Canadians what hockey is actually about, what it looks like to win. I'm sorry that happened to you, but you know there's always next year. The Canadians could come back. But yeah, just an apology from an American to a Canadian that we had to kick your tails in the Olympics with hockey. We'll get it the next time when we're when we're a free country again. Man. Once again, pleasure talking with you, and we'll have you back soon. And I'm sure I'm gonna be on your show again here soon as well. But always fun having you on the show. And any last words for the audience. Yeah, like, I mean, just talk to your neighbor, come to God. Like we really need to start praying again. I mean, we need a grassroots organization and we need to connect people, especially within the churches, to start rebuilding our families. The greatest defense against pedophilia is to have stable families. It's the building block of the church and it's the building block of the nation. So we need to come together to do that. I absolutely love that and completely agree with it. All Right, Well, Dave, I'm gonna go ahead and close us out. If you hold on one more minute post production to say, oh goodbyes, I'd appreciate it. But again, I thank you for your time. 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