Church & State - Woke and Weaponized with Robert Bortins

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Literally, dissatisfied with the education options Robert's mom found or as she was looking Leah Borton's decided first to homeschool her four sons and then decided to develop her own curriculum with Robert, her oldest son, as her first pupil. Robert is an absolute pleasure to have you back on Church and State. Hey, thanks for having me, and yes, this is gonna be an important episode. It certainly is. You know, through my relationship with your co author Alex Newman, I've known how just awful public education in America is really from its inception. But for the audience, and I think this is the best place to start. Can you give us just a brief history of what they did with the Prussian system here in America. Yes, so public school from the beginning was designed to do three things and religion, and private property and the family. And so that was the founders, people like Robert Owen, who is an American. His ideas went over to Prussia. Prussia, for those who don't know, is Germany pre World War One. And so the school system that enabled World War One to happen was then imported here by the people like Horace Man who said, our children are basically hostages to his cause and the causes of course, the destruction as I said earlier, of the family of Christianity, and ultimately private property. And so since the beginning, the framers of the public school system have wanted to take children out of the homes and put them into, you know, buildings where they're bureaucrats can indoctrinate them and do so without parents knowing what's going on. And so that has taken about one hundred years, one hundred and twenty five years to get to where we are today. Every single generation forgot a little bit about what the previous generation new, and we have a point now today where only about thirty six percent of kids can read at grade level, forty percent are bullied, thirty percent are sexually harassed, and we're spending about two hundred and fifty thousand dollars per kid and K through twelve education in this country. And so yeah, that's why we say Karl Marx won the battle, because we see that people like Mandamie get elected president or governor of our mayor of New York City. We have you know, we see Generation Z believe democrats socialism is a superior economic system to free market capitalism. And you know, we see that only about two percent of Gen Z of a biblical worldview, in less than ten percent of Americans. And so we went from a prosperous country to now one on the brink of destruction. That is quite the dystopian mouthful you just spilled upon my audience. Sorry, ladies and gentlemen, But that's the truth. That's what we're dealing with now. And I think there's a reason why people in the no call Horace Man horrible man. But there was another individual that people have kind of lost down the memory hole, if you will. But some of the older generation might remember the Dewey decimal system. But John Dewey was a big part of this, and he wasn't a great either, was he. No, he saw that. He said this in nineteen fifty eight nineteen hundred. Basically, change must come gradually. To force it unduly would compromise its final success by favoring a violent reaction. So while would an education system cause a violent reaction from the parents that are sending their kids there, aren't they just learning to read, write and do arithmetic. I mean, no parent's gonna be violent against that. So they must have had other ideas, and so he spelt it out. He wanted to basically bring Marxism or collectivism here to the United States, and he saw that the public school system was the way to do that because children were not being supervised by their parents. Children could be conditioned to accept the authority of the state instead of the authority of their parents, and that he could have this sort of atheism introduced through the public school system, get children to reject God, reject the founding of our country. And you know, we've gone from a country where you know, you know, basically ninety eight percent of Americans could read things like Plato and the Federalist papers and now we have it to where less than half of American adults can read at sixth grade and a sixth grade level, and so things like our Constitution, which is written in cursive, don't even teach cursif anymore. Well, of course that was done intentionally in order to dumb down Americans so that, in the words of the Ford Foundation president in the nineteen eighties, the United States could be successfully merged with the Soviet Union. And so you know, that's what we wrote this book, Woken Weaponized about. It's not my opinion or Alex Newman's opinion. We go back and we did the research, did a lot of research to find original source documents where the people who founded our public school system promoted it, what they really thought, what they really wanted to accomplish in their own words. And so it's a highly documented book, so you don't have to believe us. We've got twelve to sixteen pages of links and articles that you can go read yourself and see what these people thought about kids and why they knew that the public school system was the way to destroy American culture, destroyer heritage, and destroy Christianity as the prevailing worldview in the United states. You know, as I'm looking at the book here, and Chris will bring this up for us Robert Borton's dot com woke or forward slash woke and weaponized. But this book, the image alone is extremely troubling. We've got Karl Marx with an American flag suit, and I think for the vast majority of people that consider themselves on the conservative spectrum, this would make you pause. If you're in Barnes and Noble walking around and you see Karl Marx with an American flag suit and Chris is showing it right here, You're gonna pause, like what is this book about? But I think you're absolutely right. You and your co author Alex Newman are absolutely right. Karl Marx has claimed victory, or his ideology has claimed victory within the American public education system. Yeah. Absolutely, And it wasn't done on accident. So that was what we wanted to know, is like, we know the education system is failing our children. You know, that's not something that's debated in our country anymore. But was it incompetence or was it intentional? And what we found was it was intentional, and it was done through the grant making process of organizations like the Rockefeller Foundation. You know, people like George Soros and Bill Gates and all these individuals who are globalist, atheist, who hate our founding fathers and what this country was built upon, and they want to rebuild the world in their own view. Most parents don't share their same worldview. How are you going to make it happen? And so the federal Frederick Gates, who is the leader of the Rockefeller Education Board, said this, in our own dreams, we have limitless resource, and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands. And so just think about our public school systems are spending twenty thousand dollars per year per child. Now, I mean that's basically unlimited resources. And you know, most Americans, even during COVID, you know, we were able to finally see what was going on in the school system, and more people aret owt home schooling, More people are sending their kids to private school or charter school and out of the normal. Public school system. But we still have you know, eighty five ninety percent of Americans saw what was happening and still go, well, oh well, I'm still going to send my kids here. And so you know, it's kind of like this this ideology. Every single chapter was saying this is what they said, here is the results that we're seeing today in America, and this is how they funded it. And so some of it was just through they're our own grants in the nineteen fifties. You know, everyone now says, like usaid that they've been doing that since the nineteen fifties. There's a thing called the Reese Report where they basically discovered that all of these grants that the US government was doing and that were being sent to you know, people like the Rockefeller Foundation and the Ford Foundation, which of course are on the front line of LGBTQ and pushing that agenda on our kids. They were using their grant making power, along with getting grants to the federal government, to change our school system from a classical Christian school system to this you know, modern education, humanist system that basically is all about me, all about I, and is very hedonistic. And so it's right there laid out, but it took took decades because parents, you know, one hundred years ago would not have stood for what's happening today. But we've been so conditioned over the generations now most parents don't even understand what they lost. And I really feel helpless to make any changes because that's all they know. The system has really got and gathered all the power into itself. Yeah, it's a slow boil. If they would have done this right at the inception of the public school institutions, the masses would have rejected it. There probably would have been violence on the streets, honestly, because parents would have been really upset with the fact that you were targeting their kids. But every desk spot has always done this. You know the quotes from Hitler from now you can read them and they're going they always target the children. They did this in a much more insidious way here in the United States, And you know, right now, I think is probably the best time for any parent to look at this and say, I got to get out of this system. I got to get my kids out of the system. When we're looking at kitty litter boxes and bathrooms, a massive transgender agenda where the school can decide that your kids need to transition or not even tell you. They can literally take their kids to hospitals in some states and start the process without you ever having any knowledge of it. It's not the same. I want to put it this way. Look, it was always a problem, but a lot of parents are nostalgic about it, Like I went to that school. I want my kids to go to this school. I turned out fine. Yeah, did you turn out fine? I don't know. I mean that's up for debate. But it's not the same. The education or indoctrination is probably the better word. It has just it's just amplified. Yeah, no, absolutely, And so there's a lot of nausea, you know, people thinking about, oh, that's what I went through, or Friday night lights or these different things. But that was the whole point of the system. Like the system itself is designed to trap you in it and give you some good things along with all the bad things that it's going to be given to you. A guy named be A Skinner helped to design it. This classroom management, and a lot of the lie that the devil loves to hear from Christian's mouth is like, I know. Public school is a problem, but not my public school. And you have to understand, like the whole public school system is designed around my Marxist ideology. The curriculum is written by Marxist professors and is paid for through Marxist redistribution of wealth, and so the whole system itself is Marxist. And yeah, you can have a good Christian teacher in front of the school. My wife was a public school teacher for ten years before we got married. But she didn't understand, like she was a straight a student, you know, top of her class in college, that all the stuff that she was learning wasn't about teaching the next generation to give them knowledge and pass on our country's values and their family's values. Everything was designed around the idea of creating good little collectivists and good little socialists. And every time that she stepped out of line and said, well this doesn't work, you know, we need to do something different, she got her handslapped by the administration. And so you can have a good professor, you know, good teachers that are trying to do their best. But when they're teaching uh Marxist curriculum in a Marxist system, you know, they're inevitably promoting Marxism, even if they don't have a Marxist bone in their body. And so we see this all the time. That's why homeschooling is one of the number one choices for education among school teachers. You know, we have tens of thousands of former school teachers that use our curriculum. They all say that they were never taught these things in school, that you're never taught how to pass on knowledge, uh, these tools that we teach them in classical conversations, and it was all done intentionally. They teach these teachers who want to do a good job that these are the right things to do, when actually all those things are the wrong things to do. And they all are part of this uh Skinner's box which treats children like animals to be conditioned and controlled. And so that's ultimately what the goal of the system is and it's always going to bring its power to itself. And so you got to get out of the system any way you can. And I know we're talking to a Christian audience. God says that children are blessing from Him, And so think about a gift maybe your grandmother gave you as a child. How would have you treated that right? You would have treated it well the next time you saw your grandmother, right, you would have asked you about your gift. So we're all going to see Jesus in God at the beam a seat, and he's going to ask us what we did with this gift of children? And now that we know, I don't think it's going to be a very good time for any Christian parent to say, oh, I outsourced their formation to an atheist, Marxist, collectivist public school because it was. Free and they're taxing me for it. That's probably not the answer you're going to want to give God at that time. And obviously we see the statistics roughly eighty three percent of kids who go to public school but are in church regularly walk away from the faith within two years of graduation. So it's very clear that pastors need to have a different plan than what we've implemented in the United States, and that parents need to have a different plan and stop, you know, as the devil loves to say, did God really say? It's very clear that the Bible gives the responsibility of educating children to parents, not the state, And whenever we give our authority to a structure that is not biblical, then get bad results and our children are hurting in the United States because of it. I mean, you are absolutely right, you know, going towards the intention of what public indoctrination is and you've brought up a number of things that occur from it, and leaving the church is one of those those side effects or intentions behind what they established here. But the idea of getting your kids to become basically owns believing that they have to go into higher education, so they go into these colleges get absolutely useless degrees. You know, you wonder why so many people with women's studies are serving you coffee at Starbucks? Well there, you go, right there. But then they're enslaved to that debt system and they work their entire lives at a job that they don't even necessarily like. It's not engaging the creative spark that God gave us, and just existence is basically it until cradle to grave you end up dying in the state moves on to the next generation. No, absolutely, it's a system that's per portraying itself. Obviously, ninety percent of college professors are woke leftists who hate America. But for some reason we're funding them with our you know, student loans. But against student loans, that's not money that's been earned. So it's again part of this collectivist ideology where this government is going to fund these things. You put the debt on the next general. They have no choice but to work for some corporation and a job they hate, to buy things, they don't want to impress people they don't like. And that's the system that we've created. And we call it good, but it's a very evil system. And we actually just launched our own college and that's what we're talking about today. But we're launching Classical Fellowship. So we're going to be working on defeating the higher ed monsters in the student loan pimps here at Classical Conversations to make sure that our students don't have to go into that system anymore. And so it absolutely is a system that tries to again just bring more and more power to itself. It's bankrupting the next generation. It's stopping them from having economic success and opportunity. And it was all done under kind of Barack Obama and his socialist ideology that quote unquote everyone needs to go get a college degree. Well, they knew that everyone needed four more years of indoctrination to become a leftist, and the more indoctrination could give them, the more likely they would vote for socialist ideologies and reject God because they understood that the system itself is a system that perpetrates these ideologies onto the next generation, and that when students are outside of these systems, they absolutely reject them and understand that they're not beneficial to a flourishing life. Yeah, one of the things I love about you is your SoC solutions oriented. Not only are you doing classical conversations for K through twelve, but now moving into the college side as well, so that people can if they want to go seek that higher level education, you know, become a doctor or a lawyer or a professor or whatever it may look like, but not be indoctrinated by the state system. I've shared this before with my audience, but I was a troubled kid in high school in particular, and I ended up getting kicked out of school high school eleventh and twelfth grade and join the Marine Corps. Ran out of high school to really clean myself up. But I actually, actually thinking back on it now, I think that actually saved me. The fact that I was a bad kid and was rejecting everything and really was getting all f's because I wasn't doing any work, it actually probably saved me from the indoctrination. Yeah, well that's the thing. Like, not all of these kids who act up, and especially like in your situation, are the bad kids. They understand the system that they're in is wasting their time, it's wasting their life, it's not providing them any benefits. It's not going to make their life more flourishing going on, you know, for the rest of their lives. And so you know, it's really a reasonable response for children to rebel out of that system because the system itself is not designed for human flourishing and to benefit those who are partaking in it. It was designed to create you know, mindless drones who will be consumers for the big corporation's products and be willing factory workers at a low rate, so that they were just educated enough to push the right buttons and the right order without having to think too much or wonder what life could be like outside if they did something else. That was what the design of our public school system was, and it was to benefit the oligarchs of the time. And that's why it's so important to get our kids out and why so many kids who are rebels rebellious. I mean, now they just put them. On drugs like they give them like I mean, I don't know how what percent it is, but like forty or fifty percent of our kids in public school system are on medication because of course, of course they have to be. Their bodies weren't designed by God to sit in a chair for six eight hours a day and to have to be mindlessly lectured at by some collectivists at the front of the room about why their ancestors were all racist. And so we've got to understand that if your kids rebellion in school a lot of times, it's because they recognize what everyone else is refusing to recognize. Does anyone want to start singing Pink Floyd the Wall right now? I just kind of get that. I just want to sing that song right now. I'm not entirely sure why, Robert, I wanted to ask you this as well, and then we'll go back to the book. And of course I want to talk about classical conversations. But one of the things that I've been sounding the alarm bell on, and I've had a number of different people that are in the fight within our education system, is this school choice now for me? I see I have alarm bells ringing when it comes to school choice, because it gives the government access to private schools. I don't want that. Yeah, So we have two or three chapters on school choice and the dangers of it in the book. So absolutely, when Karl Marx wrote free public Education for Everyone, what he wrote as the tenth Plank was that public education at the time was what we call private schools. So they're open to the public as opposed to just available to oligarchs or those in power at the time, so we would call them private schools in the United States. So it's basically free private schools for everyone. So school choice is quote unquote free private schools for everyone, and they've implemented in other countries and it's just destroyed their economy. It destroyed free thought. You can't pick your own curriculum. It makes it so that they can nationalize the curriculum. And so it's very shortsighted. Oh, we're just going to attack the teachers' unions by getting kids out of the public school system with school choice. Well, in every single state that has enacted this, their budgets go really high, so now you have to tax your citizens more, and then you go look at who's actually leaving the public school system. It's almost nobody. It's like ten twelve percent here in North Carolina. Everyone else is. They're just subsidizing the people that were already paying for private schools. And so what are private schools doing. Well, they're doing what the colleges did when we gave free student loans to everyone. They're jacking up prices and so now private schools are becoming unaffordable even more because of the government subsidies. And so it's not conservative, it's definitely not Christian. No Christian should ask their neighbor to pay for something that they should be paying for them. Jesus said to pick up our own cross, and not force neighbors to pick up their cross to pay for things that we want. Jesus said to go to the second mile when we get taxed. So Christians should be paying their own education bills and fighting to end taxation for education because that's im moral. And so, yeah, absolutely, school choice is a trojan horse. It's going to destroy our private schools. It's already funding radical Islamic schools in Texas and in Tennessee. And so you've got all these Republicans running around, Oh, we got stop radical Islam. Well, they're actually the number one funders of Islamic education in the United States now with these school choice bills, and so you know, they're speaking out of both sides of their mouth, and it's absolutely going to be a terrible and for any schools that partake in it. Robert, why are so many conservative Christians distracted by the new shiny thing, you know, just like wave it in front of you and oh, look, we're doing something. We're combating what happened in public education through school choice. Why why do you can't we not see the motive behind this? Well, I mean they've obviously got a massive, you know, one hundred million dollars you know, disinformation campaign going on, and they see that these public school systems are are bad. I mean they are right, absolutely terrible what they're doing to the kids, and so they're looking for the government to help. And they forgot what Ronald Reagan said is what twelve most scary words in the English language. I'm from the government, and I'm here to help. And so they've rejected Reaganism and they've embraced socialism. We've basically have these leering centers all over the United States now being funded by these Republican legislators. That was the number one new school in Texas after their their new legislation was these kindergarten leering centers being popped up all over the place, including in people's houses. And so, yeah, we've identified the problem as our public funding of school systems. But now we're gonna make it publicly fund one hundred percent school systems. You see this in Iowa own less than one percent of students now pay their. Own bills in this state of Iowa. So the state of Iowa has now captured ninety nine percent of the school systems. Before school choice, roughly thirteen percent of the people were outside of the public school system. Now virtually one hundred percent of people in Iowa are in public schools because the public's paying for So it's a public school. Yeah, that's what it is. Eladies and gentlemen. Well, we're coming up on a heartbreak here, but I want to push the book one more time and then when we come back, I want to have a conversation about classicals, classical schools, that classical Christian education. But we're going to bring up the book one more time. Woke and weaponized and Robert in twenty seconds tell people why they should buy this book. Yeah, you can't reform something if you don't understand the root cause of it. And so we went back and did all the research to give you the root cause of education so that you can make better decisions for your family, for your church, for your local community, and for your states. If you go to. Amazon dot com, search wocin weaponized or Classical Conversations Books dot com and search woken Weaponized, you can purchase it today and educate yourself so that your grandchildren will be better off than they would have been. Well said, ladies and gentlemen. Well, we're not done yet. We're gonna continue on. 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Now, I was sharing with you offline. My kids go to a school that does this model, and I'm blown away by how smart my kids are. I mean, I joke all the time that I'm a victim of the California public education system and should be jeweling on myself. But luckily I'm not. I think my mom prayed a lot and kept me out of that. But my kids are coming back. They're learning Latin. Like my two sons were talking to each other in Latin the other day and I'm like, are you talking about me? Like, what are you guys doing? But that's the kind of education they're getting. I love it. Tell the people why they should get involved with this. Yeah, classical education is so important. Of course, with a Christian worldview is ultimate because well, classical education does a couple of things. One, it teaches you how to think, not what to think. And he gives you the tools of learning so that any realm of God's nature is. Not cut off from you. You don't have to worry about AI because you will be the one programming and understanding it because you know how to think, you know how to ask questions, you know how to think logically, and you understand language. And so school education uh is the is vital. It's what all of our founding fathers had. Where you go and you read the great books. You go see what the best minds in the world have thought. You go read the Bible and understand that. Uh. You go learn you know the ancient languages like Latin or Greek, so that you understand how language works, so that you can learn other languages, whether it's programming languages or or you know modern languages with much much much easier. And then you learn how to think logically, You learn how to put things together. And we've a we have a thread of like, Okay, if this is what's happening over in geography, how does this help? Like why is why is the straight of Hamus? Why is that so important to oil prices here in the United States? Like classical education teaches you how to think think of those things, and then you do things like mock trial and debate and and learn rhetorical skills so that you can ultimate defend your faith and help other people to learn about Jesus and to know him and to be an articulated adult who's uh you know, making uh, making the world a better place for for your family and and for your community. And so it's this whole entire way of thinking and learning a successible one to anyone. Uh, you know, it's kind of has this idea, well that's just. For the elites. Well, it used to be every American was elite because everyone was expected to read the Federalist papers and understand the debate about the Constitution and how we were going to run this country as a society. And then well we do that through a biblical worldview. So we don't put uh, you know, children at the center, you know, child centric learning that that should make you shudder, like like, we have God centric learning in classical education. We say that the heavens declare the glory of the Lord. So we're gonna learn about biology and math and the sciences and to understand God more fully. And so we don't make it a hedonistic, selfish education, but we go beyond ourselves so that we can serve humanity more fully as ambassadors to Christ while we're while we're here on this planet. And so classical education works for anyone. You don't have to be especially smart. It actually works with how your brain progresses. So children love to memorize. So in classical education we do a lot of memorization when they're younger, right, they can memorize things that are going to be helpful later on in life or things that aren't. Many people give things like, you know, cartoons and movies and things like that that kids memorize, but that's not going to make them better. So we memorize things like the Bible verses or the periodic tables or the multiplication tables up to fifteen so that when they're older, they're able to you know, be able to think well and you know, make sure that they're not being fooled by propagation and or the government or mainstream media because they actually know how to do the research themselves because they've been taught that through a classical education. And so there's classical schools that are doing a great job with that, especially ACCS schools. And then you know, there's Classical Conversations that has a whole program K through twelfth and now college program for families who want to do it at home. And you know, at Classical Conversations we have about two thousand communities here in the United States, so at every fifty in all fifty states. We're in also fifty countries around the globe eight hundred communities internationally, and so there's going to be one near you. And we just want to. Help people be able to answer God well and he when he asked them to be. With a seat. You know, what did you do with the gift of the children that I gave you. We want to, you know, help them along that path. Absolutely, I mean amen to that. As you were talking, I was reminded of my my nine year old daughter last year when she was eight, she was singing the Periodic Table song and she just kept singing it over and over and over again, and to some parents that might have been annoying, I just thought it was absolutely phenomenal. I don't know the periodic table off the top of my head. I'd have to look at it. I could probably name some of them. But here's my nine year old hoo can through song tell you every single element on the periodic table. And one of the other things, Robert that I absolutely just love and I actually watch for it now is meeting other people's kids and I'm not trying to slam anyone and make fun of anyone's kids. But oftentimes I'll meet other people's kids and a lot of times they're on a phone just staring at it, and it's like, hey, nice to meet you. My children engage with adults, they shake their hands and look them in the eye and they start actually having a conversation with them. And for a lot of adults, it's almost shocking to have a kid around like that. Oh absolutely. And again at our book, Well could Weaponize, we talk about BF Skinner. He viewed children as little more than apes, a little bit smarter than apes. And so that's entire modern worldview. Education is evolved around that your children, child is just a little animal, and we need to tame them, and we need to make them, you know, be obedient to government authorities versus you know, we believe in as Christians that we were made a little lower than the angels, and that we're adopted sons and daughters into the Kingdom of God, that we are prince and princesses, and so of course you want to give you know, a prince or princess should get the best education possible. You know, that's just like a no brainer. Like throughout human history that would have been like, of course you're gonna give them a classical education. Of course you're gonna let him read the best materials that humanity has produced so that they can be leaders and do well. And so that's what we're supposed to be. Doing as Christians, and classical education and powers parents. To do that. I mean, we have people who don't even have high school degrees that are educating their kids and getting full right scholarships to call colleges or you know, starting becoming entrepreneurs. We've actually adopted or created programs inside of classical conversations to help parents, you know, finish their college degree or even get a master's degree if they want to do that because of all their teaching skills that they've been learning as homeschooling parents. And so ultimately you have to think, are we training our children to be ambassadors to heaven or are we trying to get them into Harvard? But even now, I mean, if you send your kids to public school, again, only about thirty six percent can read it grade level. Barnet found over sixty seven percent believe lying is okay. So if your kid is doing if your kid is the one that's doing okay, his two best friends or her two best friends are not. And it's just that's what the statistics say. And so parents need to stop being naive, stop thinking that it's not in their school, because I promise you it is and it's everywhere. And you know, you're responsible for your kids' education at the end of the day. Yeah, why, Robert, are Christians obsessed with this idea of getting along with the world. You know, It's like I want and I'll tell you this, and I've said this so many times on the show. I don't do it, but I kind of want to choke parents that are like, I'm sending my kid into the public education system to be salt and light. They're they're you know, evangelizing people there, and I'm like, you're going to lose your kids. You're going to lose your kids. I mean, why are there so many Christians that just want to go along with the world when we were clearly called to be a set apart from it. Yeah, I mean the devil, Right, did God really say? Did God really say that You're to teach them in the morning, in the afternoon and. In the day. You know, at the end of the day, Did God really say that teach a child you know their ways and they won't depart from it. You know, you just go look at the Old Testament, like you couldn't you know, be a priest until what you were twenty nine years old, so you basically weren't allowed to like angelize anyone until you're year thirty, so you could have some life experiences. But we're sending our you know, you know, five year olds in there that that you know some you know, a lot of Christians don't think their kids are saved anyway, so it's like, Okay, you don't think your kid is saved until they've had a profession of faith, which you know they can't have to like they're twelve or thirteen, and you're sending them to a secular system, like you don't even like have a coherent worldview. The big problem I have is that I think a lot of pastors in the United States are more afraid of the Teachers' Union than they are of God because they refuse to preach the Gospel from the pulpit what the Bible says about who's responsible for education, because they don't want to make the teachers or the administrators and their schools, or from the schools that go to their church mad And so if we have pastors that are more afraid of teachers' Union than God, it's not surprising that the sheep have that same fear. I gotta tell you what you just said was an incredibly powerful statement that the pastors are more afraid of the teachers' union than God. Oh man, I gotta tell you, pastors, if you're watching the show, take that to heart. I'll say this, and I've said this in a number of times as well. But churches are empty six out of seven days of the week. There's your opportunity, pastor gets get a homeschool co op that's using classical conversations. Boom, you've got to school for all of your congregation. No, absolutely, there's many. That's typically where we meet. And yeah, we have a bunch open to them. But yeah, I mean, you know pastors like, yeah, preach it on Sunday like it prove me wrong, you know, you know, but too many of them are afraid. And yeah, that's another thing. Like God gives us resources to steward right, he said, you gave the you know the story of the good steward and the bad steward and those sorts of things. Well, if God gives you a building to you seven days a week and you're only using it one day a week and then sometimes, you know, two nights a week, maybe are you really stewarding that resource well for the Kingdom of God. I mean, even if you don't have any education rooms in your church, you could still have twelve kids in this sanctuary every single day getting a classical Christian education, and the pastor could be the headmaster and teacher or something like that. So every single church building that used to be the center for our center of our lives in the United States one hundred and fifty years ago, every single pastor should figure out how to get their building filled up all seven days a week. I completely agree. And those one room schoolhouses, those kids were doing a lot better than the kids nowadays. I'll tell you that as well. Robert, we're winding down on the interview. I want to go back to both websites. We'll start with classical conversations because I want I want Christians to get their kids out of the publican doctor nation system, and this is the best option out there. Ladies, and gentlemen, I can tell you that as I feel like hairclub for men. Guy, you know, like, not only am I a spokesperson, but I'm also a client. Right, My kids go to a classical Christian school. This is incredible and I want you guys to do it. Robert expand on that tell the audience why they should get their kids out of the system and start doing classical education. Yeah. I mean, if you want your kid to be ready for AI and whatever God has for them, the public school system is not going to prepare them for that, and it's going to do their best to send their soul to hell. So go to the top of the website, go click on communities near you, put in your zip code, and we'll get you started homeschooling today. Absolutely love it. And then Woke and Weaponized and you can find this at Robert Morton's dot com Forward slash Woke and Weaponized, or you can just go to the website and it's run on the top. But again, I think people should read this book. I'm going to order it. I want to read this. I read I think it was was it crimes over our Educators that Alex Neuman, Yeah, I read that one, So I'm looking forward to reading this one. But again, tell the audience why they should order this book. Yeah. As I said, well can weaponize. If you don't understand the education system and what it's intentionally doing to your child or your grandchild, then you will not be able to solve this problem. You will continue to rearrange deck shares on the Titanic instead of doing something with your life that can echo an eternity. So go by wo can weaponize so that you know how to spend the time that you have here on earth to make it more like Kevin instead of more like hell. I love that absolutely well, Robert, it has been an absolute pleasure having you on the show. I thank you for coming back on and sharing the new book and sharing why kids or white parents need to get their kids out of the current system. I'm going to go ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute post production to Sarah goodbyes. I appreciate it, but again, thank you for all your work, sir. 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