Church & State - World War 3 with James Patrick

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Lastly, if you want to get a hold of us, Church and State seventeen seventy six at Proton me with that, Let's go ahead and start maybe one of the most important shows we've done in a considerable amount of time, World War three. Now I'm bringing on James Patrick. He's an economist and investigative documentary filmmaker from Washington, d C. His work includes authorship of books, production of international documentary films, and the publication of economic research papers on the consequences of I don't even know what that word is. You're gonna have to you to tell me what that word is. I'm a California public education school trained, so yeah, but he's done a lot. We're talking about World War three here, but James, thank you so much for joining us on Church and State. Yeah, thank you for having me. Yeah, And now now tell me what is this word? Re Hypualification is when when you take the assets and pledge them as collateral on derivatives bets, and then they get repledged and repledged. So it's it's like fractional reserve banking where the the accounts get leverage up. So that's that's the main thing. But it intersects with this World War three story because when you see like the closing of the straits of Hermos and these shocks to these commodity prices, that that can send ripples through the financial system and and and cause all kinds of problems if the systems all leverage up and and and the asset prices fall, then then you can have these collateral calls. But anyway, let's starting back to the war worth. No, I like that, And I mean, come on, you're not a fan of fractional reserve banking. I mean, talk about something that's really made America just just really great, right, is fractional reserve banking? Obviously I'm I'm joking there, but yeah, let's talk about it. Because you've done a number of documentaries. Your latest one, uh, is one that absolutely I think every single person in this country, really around the world should be watching because we seem to be on the cusp of it, don't we. Yeah, I mean. We we We were seeing a rise of global conflict. I think World War IIE has started. I mean you could argue it started kind of with with Israel attacking Gaza the way it did. I think that really started to isolate them and make them really a pri estate. And then and then this this this emerging war with Russia between the West and Russia. The Western leaders leaders have been just doing everything they can to provoke Russia and and like like a barking little dog, you know, like assuming that the bigger dog won't ever bite them. But I think, I think this is really stupid to get into wars. It's the worst, really stupid thing to get into because it just you just end up breaking things. You're buying guns and bombs and destroying property. So it's just it's a lose lose situation and and it's not something to just enderlightly. So the rule number. Doug a friend of mine, Douglas McGregor, he said a rule number on one of wars, don't get into it, you know, because it's it's it's economically the most destructive thing you can do. I mean, it seems a good advice, like if you can avoid the conflict and don't get engaged in it. I mean even growing up right as kids, we were taught like, yeah, hey defend yourself, but make it a last resort, Like it's better to walk away from the fight than to always be that guy that's like I had a few beers and now I'm gonna go fight everybody in the town. Like that's not the person that you typically wanted to be friends with. And our government has become that guy. They become the bully that's just poking every single person that they can possibly come in contact with. Now I'm no apologist for Russia. I don't look at Putin and say that's a good guy, like I want to move there, you know, But I will say he Putin and Russia have have honestly, they've they've really engaged in a lot of restraint. It appears to me. Yeah, I mean, and so yeah, maybe just to preamble everything, I'm gonna say that I'm not I'm not pro Russia or anti US or or pro i Ran. I think you know, Russia and Iran have a lot of problems with their government and governments, and uh, they're more repressive than than the US. I'd say that for sure. So but but provoking. But I mean in in diplomacy and you you you don't have to love everyone you deal with in the world. You know, it's a lot of people people. I think, I think diplomacy has been misrepresented in this last couple of years that oh, we have to love every last little thing with the country to to not have a war with it. So I mean, it's just crazy, like you know that we need to be on its. Diplomacy means you have good you you practice good relationships with people even when you don't agree with them that you can still trade with them, you can still still have interactions with them, and and frankly that if you want to undermine, if you want to, like to give you a little example with Cuba for example, that we had all these crazy Cubans or flee flee cast show and go to Florida, and they were really pissed off because the Keeban government stole all their property. My godfather actually. Was one of those guys, and and Castros took all his that wholesale business, you know, and and they were all screaming, Oh, that's in fake Cuba, that's in fake Cuba. But we put all these sanctions and actually the regime stayed longer because because we weren't trading with them and we isolated them. If it had we just had free trade with. Them, the free market would have kind of undermined them and the regime would have collapsed many many, many decades ago. You know, I love what you're saying there, James. I got to tell you, people don't tend to look at the free market as a weapon. But the reality is it is, especially with dealing with so many of these you know, despods, these tyrannical governments when the people go and see that, you know, free market actually works, like I can get better products through them America. Yet you're going to cause an uprising, organic uprising that we don't really have to get involved. With, exactly. Yeah, and that's the best kind, you know. So yeah, Usually when the government does almost always when the government does something, they screw it up, make it worse something. It's really like, I'm fromatching DC and it's all these weird, sick people come to DC to work for the government, and You're like, they're the most useless, irritating people. I mean, i'd agree that you're preaching to a libertarian. So I'm right there with you, man, Like government screws things up, like get it out. Everything works better when we either completely remove the government or severely reduce it, which is really what the Republic was originally founded on. So I'd like to talk about World War three. I think that what's really unique with this this war, this emerging world war, is that there's totally different rules or this or the terms of the fight. It used to be nation states fighting over strategic interests, interests or economic interests. And I think what's really unique about what's going on now historically is that it's really kind of I think driven by by eschatology or these kind of oligarchs that sit above the governments of the world and are sort of pushing this kind of messianic, really bizarre world war. You know, in the Jewish relitions they call it the war of Gog and Magogue that precedes the Messianic era, and I really think there's a lack of a better word, of conspiracy to destroy the Western worlds and I think plunging us so in the in the in the Jewish prophecies, they say that this starts with this war of Gog and Magog. That's that starts in Israel, And that's that's really what we're seeing here, is that Israel precipitated an attack first on the kind of helpless cousins and then killed I don't know how many hundred the thousands, they say seventy thousand, but it's hard to believe when you look at those pictures of that place. But then now this Iran war was really stupid for them. I mean, there's they can't they are in no way able to defeat Iran. In the US backing Israel and taking on Iran is our Zara Kusa. It'll be our end. And the Iranians are do not have to win in a normal sense of fielding equipment tanks on the battlefield. I mean, this is all about they just have to hold out and then stay in the game, and then we lose. Our whole empire will fall. So already right now, I mean after two weeks of this, Irans inflicted devastating attacks on over thirty bases in the region. On Friday, they struck a NATO base in eastern Turkey holding nuclear weapons. They blow up a bunch of nicolar weapons. They are sending a very strong message to NATO. They've been hammering Israel and now, don't get me wrong, they're taking a brutal beating. I mean they're but now the. US is behaving like Israel and carpet bombing and these poor Iranians, so I just it's just really despicable. Like that minute missile when we opened up the conflict, we've bull up one hundred and seventy children, girls of Actually it's a private school daughters of officers. Of the Revolutionary Guard. So it's the sort of Israeli style like demoralization atrocity. But this is not like fitting for American behavior. I just think this is really despicable behavior. And it's my friends in Asia and South Asia. They're telling me like, look, America's done, Like your reputation is trash. Now you're getting militarily humiliated, and so it's painful to watch. This, I would agree. Now, you bring up a couple of really interesting points here, and they're just historically speaking. When we look at like France with Vietnam and how it really brought France to its knees because they were caught in that boondoggle. Certainly, the United States also had a very losing war in Vietnam. We look at the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, so we see examples of this historically where a powerful country went into one of these Third World countries and ended up losing the war and not just losing the war, but losing their place within the worldwide structure. So yeah, I think you're right when we look at what happened that the boondoggle of Iraq for US and even Afghanistan for US, and now we're going to go into a country that's much larger, as you said, they can just fight a war of attrition and we lose this. I mean when I look at the data points, we lose this every single time. And it's not just me, it's not just you. It's individuals. You brought up, Douglas McGregor right there, Individuals that are in the know that they're saying this is bad for America. We're going to lose this war. Yeah. And these hypersonic missiles they range Persians have, I mean, the people don't understand. Also, like the Persian culture, it's it goes back to twenty over twenty five hundred years. They they this principle, an ancient suastronism called ashah, which is like the truth or the divine order of things, that that people were willing to die for for their king. Then later in Islam there was this concept of martyrdom with the i think the Battle of Carboo and six't eighty where this whole idea this this this this figure died instead of submitting to an evil an evil guy, he chose death. So there, so there's this there's this deep seated some martial culture. It's it's they do not do not pushovers. They're way harder fighters. And Arabs and and they they are willing to die for what's right. And now when you know America and Israel just comes start bombing things indiscriminately. This is in particu taking out Kamani, that's who seems like chose to die as a martyr rather than run into a bunker. This sense, this, this just sort of deeply seats the support for for their war. For them to hold out and the Iranians can take a beating. Now Israelis, on the other hand, they don't. They usually like to manipulate other people to get to fight their wars, and they hide behind all the nice toys and kill grandmothers and stuff. But in the end, in the end, they're whims. They're not they're not actually hard fighters. They're just willing to inflict atrocities. But when they're when they're back gets pushed to the wall, they're going to leave that country. I mean, I think I think in the Twelve Day War before the government of Israel actually issued an edict saying that that they would prohibit Israelis from leaving the country because they got nine million people. I think a million left actually, but in the Twelve Day War, but you had seven million Jews and two million Arabs there and I think like a million of a good million left over the till they were, But now they're really getting hammered in, like and uh, the statistics I heard was like two million and four second passports. But I mean they're just going to flee that place. I mean, they they're only been there a generation or two. No one's been there more than two generations. And when they're when they're against the wall, I don't know what. I don't see them standing, you know, staying there. And and then that was all this speculation BB got hit, you know, and and there's these weird A videos are putting on. There's two national security meetings he hasn't showed up at. And I don't think if that, if that occurred, I don't think they cannot politically admit that. The morale well just collapse. So they're already on the verge of collapse right now. Like so this is just some big stuff, you know, and it has the potential to overlap and overflow into the Ukrainian theater, Like they were inviting Zelenski to syndrome specialists, and the Russians are helping the Iranians with their targeting of targets. The Chinese are helping with satellite intelligence. Kumani Junior said, we're going to allow We're going to allow Russian and Chinese bases here with it. So Kumani Junior issued this ultimatum on March tenth that said, we want all the US bases vacated in the region. We want reparations for all the war crimes that have a trillion dollars SASS, and the dropping of the sanctions. I don't think those are quite unreasonable demands. I don't think they'd ever get the reparations, but I think they will achieve the other two goals. I think it's an interesstinct possibility. Yeah. One of the other points that you brought up that I really want to actually devote some time to is you basically alluded to dispensational esc hoology, and it's something that the Christians, American Christians in particular, have really just bought into. Now I've devoted a number of shows to dispelling what I believe is a myth that this is not actually what the Bible teaches, that this dispensation this Yeah, the Scofield Bible, the separation. That I interviewed James Peerlof who wrote did a really interesting presentation that. But basically, when they first founded Israel, they went to the Vatican and they thought they needed the goams Christian support. So they went to the Vatican and they said, hey, vatic can we. Support the Christian Israel. The Pope told them this is like nineteen forty five, you know, forty forty five. They said, The Pope said, no, we're not recognizing him. So then they took this sneaky approach with finding getting the Scofield guy who was a crook and a crank and then declared incompetent by the court over his family. And then he and they and he wrote this reference Bible. You know, the guy never went to it's unclear he even went to any. Church or what do you call it. A past became ordained or anything, you know, crook, right, And then they and then he wrote this reference Bible but published in like Oxford Publishing or I mean he was rubbing shoulders in the Lotus Club in New York with these Elgue guys and this guy Wildemeyer was his name. The guy who helped create the Federal Reserve on top of it. Yeah, Yeah, there. Was Untermeyer, this guy onter Meyer who was a real big science in America, famous financial guy. He backed Schofield and then he went to London and he wrote this thing, and then he went to Switzerland and wrote the scope above in Switzerland, which was the same place where in where they were at. The World Zionis Congress at the time. So it really appears they took an approach to adulterate the Bible by getting this guy to publish this reference Bible. And that's sort of been the basis of all this Zion and his stuff in Christianity, because let's be clear, basic Christian doctrine is that the Jews were chosen, but then when Jesus came, then he's the new Messiah and the Jews are no longer chosen, and that only then you're spiritually the chosen the children of Israel and the Jews. You should want to convert them to Christianity, not leave them as a parallel thing that are still chosen. That's Booth's sorry, because that is not Christianity, you know, on the basic one on one definition. So the way that they've bamboozled the Christians to support the fulfillment of Jewish eschatology is really crazy stuff. And this is really relevant today because just ten days ago there was one hundred and fifty US soldiers from like twenty different units across the military claiming their commanders were telling them that, oh, look, this ran war is awesome. It's going to be armageddon in the coming of Jesus. They're like, what the hell is this. We didn't sign up. We sign up to protect the America. And I gotta tell you, James, as a marine veteran, like, I can't imagine sitting down and getting a briefing like that, like, hey, guys, We're going to armageddon. They're like what, Like what did he just say? Like armageddon? No, this is never a good thing, but you're right. Dispensationalism has completely pulled a veil over the vast majority of American Christians. There is some positive notes. A lot of people are starting to push back. Some of the more mainline Protestant denominations, certainly Orthodoxy Catholicism. They haven't taught this. They've taught Covenant theology, which unfortunately the dispensationalists call us, you know, replacement theology, pejorative term that they literally designed. But you're right, your assessment of Christianity was always that, hey, the new Israel, we've been grafted into it. It is anyone who believes in Jesus Christ as their savior. They are God's chosen people, and Jesus told us to go and make disciples. So it's it's not, as you worded it, a parallel. You know, you got the Christians and you got the Jews. Both are chosen, but they're kind of running a similar path, I suppose, but they have it is nuts. But then we get this eschatology like they used dispensationalism to prove Hey, look, Israel became a nation that proves prophecy well, but the people who were behind it designed it so that it would fool everybody. And now we have this war of Gog and magog as you were talking about earlier in the program, and Christians are literally salivating over this idea of an armageddon war and it blows my mind. Yeah, Gaga macgogue does appear a lot in the Quran, and that you could chitimately say Goga magogs could be is also a. Muslim prophecy. But it really I mean, it's not so much in Christianity, but they've been reinserting it through all these these corrupt pastors or stupid pastors. I don't know, there's stupid, incorrupt, but it's just not it's just really not Christianity. So I just see that a lot. They go. The main talking point they always go is to go, oh, it's the Old Testament, it's the Bible, it's the Bible. It's and you're like, you know, I mean, anyway, it's it's not it's not Christianity on its most basic terms, that that Judaism is not accepted under Christianity. It's it's it's no longer a valid religion. You should seek to convert them. They are not chosen. They are not worthy of us sending up their modern money and our children to die to fulfill their kookie prophecies. And and quite frankly, these prophecies they have are very dangerous and very destructive. That that so they believe that basically in the birth they call this the before the Messianic era, before the Massonic comes, they'll be the birth paying So the Messianic era, like when a woman gives birth to go sort of extreme pain before giving birth to the to the child. And so they say that this war. Of Gog and Magog, this world war, which is basically a war between East and West, where Gog is. Is uh is Us and. Eu and and metgog is uh is Russia, China ran Turkey Axis. So there's there's the precipitated massive world war in the traditional view of the of the of the prophecy, that's the ninety of the Gentiles dye, and two thirds of the Jews die. And there because the two thirds of the Jews are not pious and not following the eight hundred rules. And then whatever Jewish sect is it is they believe there, then they'll be this this reser will be destroyed, and the news will be created that whatever whatever Jewish sect they think they are leaders will be the kings of the new Israel that in this in this takun Olam, this purified world of where where you know, all the. Impure are killed off. But it's really this kind of like a orgy of of of of apocalyptic nick I mean destruck. I mean it's like a nightmare like I Anyway, I've just been looking this up just to put. This stuff in reference points. I was looking up all these old rabbi clips and from going back ten years, and then they were saying, Persia, we'll start this thing, and da da da. I mean they were talking. It was like the exactly what's happening? So yeah, I mean you probably a very pretty picture here, James, very very beautiful picture. I feel like I'm Bob Ross. We're having happy little accidents over here. But you're talking about all the Gentiles being killed and two thirds of Israel will say that again, sorry, ninety percent of the Gentiles being killed and two thirds of the Jews being killed. Doesn't that sounds like a healthscape to me? Like, it doesn't sound like a positive thing here. Yeah, I guess it's that phoenix rising from the ashes is kind of their vision. And then they said like, oh, well you when the war starts, God will send help from the sea, and all the kings of God will come and kiss the feet of the King of Israel. And so when they first started that October seventh thing, which is highly questionable that occurred. Do Doug told me he was given a tour a few months or in twenty twenty of the entire Guzza perimeter and he's like, I don't see how a pigeon could get through there, you know. I mean, so they had stand down owners. There's even been connected hearing showing they had seven hours standout owners right across the fence. Anyway, but when the German so anyway, when this whole October seventh thing, all the Western leaders went went down to Israel, Biden and everybody to show their support. And when the German delegation, the special the love whom the Israeli's loved so much, the Germans when they arrived on the tarmac, they sent these alarms off saying that his missiles coming. They said, go fall on the ground, you know, And so all the all the German delegates fall flat on their face on the tarmac, symbolizing kissing the feet of the king. But you can see, you can see in the distance, no one's doing that. In the video in the airport, no one else is doing that. They're just humiliating them according to their rituals. So I just anyway, I mentioned all this because this is this this the Israel and the US administration seemed very in this camp. I mean, Jared Kushner is a hardcore about guy. They believe actually that the Habad believes that this BB's the last president before the Messiah. Yep, so if you got nailed, that's the kind of good toes. The kibosh on. That a little bit. Yeah, it does. But they could be potentially looking for their savior at this point. And some of them, I know of some of the prophecies they say it might be Trump actually, that it's going to come in as this, this gentile king of Israel. It's all literally nuts to me, James, I got to tell you, and I really think one of the more Christian themes, I mean, the Bible tells us if possible to be at peace with everyone. We don't seem to be following that. As Christians. We seem to have removed that part of the Bible. That's not fun, that's not apocalyptic eschatology. Now we don't want to talk about that. We want to go into you know what John Hagy's so excited about, of the Gog and Magog war bombing everybody. And I got to tell you, James, as a Christian, when I see, like we've talked about Gaza a number of times here, when I see the landscape of that as you were saying like it's it's literally been devastated, like there's there's nothing there, there's no life there whatsoever. Like my heart breaks for that when I when I think about all the women and children, the innocence that were killed there, Like my Christian heart it hurts over them. And yet I look around it at my fellow Christians and they're like, yeah, like good, we needed this. Yeah, that's not Christian ethics. I mean, he was the Prince of peace, not the Prince of war. Yeah, exactly. And now, James, I hate to do this, but we got to take a hard break here. I know you've got a lot to say about this, but we're gonna come back and let you discuss this because it is a very Christian principle to try to live in peace. So ladies and gentlemen will be right back. Are you aware that the Holy Word of God tells us to eat beef? 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Make sure to use the promo code Church and State and real quick. I will also ask you once again please donate to us, keep us alive, keep us on the air. Have conversations that you're not really hearing stuff like what we're talking about on today's episode. You're not necessarily hearing it from the pulpit from a lot of these Christian pastors who are dispensationalists, who are Zionists. We got to get to the truth, ladies and gentlemen, and if you like the truth, please keep us alive. All right, with that, let's go back to James Patrick. And I hate cutting people off, James, but I just dropped a question on you, and I'd love for you to answer, what was it all right? Basically explaining all this idea that as Christians we should be encouraging peace, we shouldn't be applauding for war. Yeah. So basically I embarked on this project almost almost a year ago, and it was basically anticipating this world war, and basically it's it's an anti war film for a time, I think our leadership in US and Europe have gone insane. They're they're put there pushing for a war with Russia, in a war with with Iran and and and eventually I think it'll it'll meld into China. So so I interviewed twenty five mostly around the European Theater. So now I'm kind of rushing to incorporate all this Israeli stuff, and I ran stuff because like only about five of my interviews touched on Iran, saying this would be really stupid if it happens, This is where Israel and US are. Going to get whooped. This is not going to turn end out end up well. So I think I really it's really been a difficult uh time. Right now I sat down to edit it. Now, the war war three breaks out of. It and Iran. It's I'm following the news very closely and I'm looking at doing also starting a weekly just fifteen in a news brief on on what happened in the last every week, you know, with this thing, because it's developing so quickly. But essentially it's in any more film for our time to give people perspective and understand that that throughout history. One of the main themes of it is throughout history, empires rise and fall and and and civilizations do well. On the way up. They have they have a. Lot of prosperity, they have a lot of freedom, there's free markets, less not so many taxes. There's a lot of economic prosperity occurs. But then at a certain point it's sort of like corruption sets in. Oligarchs uh gets set in their ways and start to disabuse the people, and and then the bureaucracy sets in and starts to steal from the people and control them. And then then the sort of the then the fall starts to happen. And when that period starts to occur on this on this bell curve right, then then that's when the wars occur. The leadership is losing control. They're getting greedier and greedier, and they tend to just start clamping down more on the people. And then they started embarking on these foreign wars because as as popular support diminishes, what better way than having an enemy. So this has happened thousands of times in history with empires. And then the wealth sort of like money moves like water, it just goes to the other kingdom, it moves to the next place. So so we're seeing that now the West had its heyday, it's it had its it's high points, and US was the main power for the laste hundred years. But now money is moving to Asia, and I think it has been somewhat engineered to some excit. I mean I do. That's a whole other conversation. But either way, these things do just happen throughout history and the imperial Ubrius. The ancient Greeks had this whole concept of the tragic cycle of Hebrews of Nemesis Tsis, and that that that that the leader starts does an initial affront to the natural law of the universe, and if commits some atrocity like that min at weapon thing, right, and then and then then that God send Nemesis to cloud the dictator's mind, and he starts getting getting clouded less cloudy judgment, and it starts committing more evil things to the point that then the fade is sealed and the full destruction comes in. You know, So this, I think this is that's been very informative for me to understand this. Yeah, no, I agree with you. And you look at the cycle. I mean, I'm wearing my make Orwell fiction again shirt over here. And if you if you remember in nineteen eighty four, like they just kept them in this perpetual state of war because the people were easy to control. And you look at really just recent American history. I mean we've been at war, well, we've been at a physical war since at least two thousand and one, but even war was on poverty, wars on drugs. There was always this war culture that they were constantly immersing the American public, and it was all by design to keep us controlled, to keep us in this state of fear so that oh man, we're in a panic. Oh that makes people easy to control. Let me ask you this. I think this is going to be an interesting question for you. Cancel culture. I want to bring cancel culture into this conversation, and it might seem kind of odd at first, but as conservatives the libertarians, we got to this point where we were so tired of cancel culture, right, We got so sick of anytime we brought up any point, Oh you're a racist, you're a sexist, you're a homophobe. They'd constantly be throwing at this. And so we saw this massive pendulum swing back to the right, and we elected Donald Trump and we stopped. We just put a big old stamp of we're not doing this anymore on cancel culture. Comedy returned. We were able to see stand up comics make jokes that were offensive and we all laughed about them again, and we were celebrating this. And yet now the conversation has moved to where things that you and I are talking about saying we're not zionis, all of a sudden, conservatives are falling for another label, you're an anti Semite, and they're throwing it around left and right. It's all over conversations all across America that people like you and I were clearly anti Semites because we're not Zionists. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, I. Don't think that that's working anymore. I mean, I think three before the Godza thing, the any semi trick of accusing anyone who criticizes Israel or or some Jewish behavior, they would say, you're any semi. I mean, I don't think you can. You can be called a bigot for pointing out someone else's like bad behavior. I think people should pull the others accountable. Otherwise they just continue to run a mark like I mean, if you have if you have a carjacking car thief and he never gets funished, he's gonna steal more cars, right. I mean, So, being from DC, I do have to say that there's a tremendous amount of control over the government, and it's a very if you play still in DC, you can't criticize Israel. But I think the public opinion is shifting quite rapidly. I think it's interesting to see the demographic breakdown of that young young people right and left are very critical of Israel and stuff, and then and of the influence in the US over the US government. Older older left people it's like I think fifty to fifty, but older right people it's still like seventy percent support, so that this is headed in a direction that's more more critical of Israel and Israeli control over the government. At the same time, you know, we have the most pro Israeli government in the world now, I mean we've ever had. And I think Trump, Trump I suspect is Jewish himself. He's if you look up his genealogy, there's half the names of Jewish. His first wife, the Czech wife, was the Jewish Czech woman. So all the kids are they publicly say they're after I don't. He's I think more sympathetic. He's highly sympathetic due to that. And then he was very involved with these Epstein files, more like an active participant rather than just a blackmail john. So this is a very bad guy. I mean, I mean I was happy with the first three months he said we're. Gonna get out a NATO. It looked really good in the first and then it's like now it's like a healthscape. I mean, this guy's launching every day working fine. I don't know where this is going to end up, but I mean it can and it will destroy the US economy. I mean, it will destroy our position in the world. So I don't know. Sorry, you went to cancel culture. I don't know. On the one hand, I think that it's like these guys they cook up twenty headaches to throw at society, and then they'll pull one back a little bit and then we're. Like, oh, we got a reprieve. But it's almost like you see the same guy's doing all these different headaches. So it's it's like they throw the dog a bone, they'll beat the dog with five different kinds of sticks. Then they'll throw away one of the sticks, and then I mean it's like, is this really Are we really in a better spoder? I think it's kind of a psychological strategy of tormenting us. I would agree crisis and solution, right, this is something the government's been active in for as long as I can remember. And even what you were speaking of right there, you know, you got Mark Levin over there manhandling Trump literally like Trump's the guy that when you shake hands with him, he pulls you to him, right, And all of a sudden, you got Mark Levin with his hand over his shoulder, ganking Trump into him, calling him the most Jewish or calling him the first Jewish president. This is wild stuff. And then something so I would agree, But also I wanted to bring this up because lately I've been studying this quite a bit. But I think it's actually fair to say, certainly in the case of like Jared Kushner, but I think also with Trump as well. I think more than anything, they're cabalists. They are studying Jewish mysticism and they are believing that this is the power behind the scenes that is really dictating every move that they make. What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, I think I've read some accounts that Trump is into kabbala stuff. I mean, it's really applied mysticism. I studied it for a bit as well to understand it and mystical schools, but it's very much it's really all the countries where the Jews were. They absorbed the traditions of where they were living. So the Kabbala is really kind of a hodgepodge of different cultures mystical beliefs. In the Western satiric schools they call it the mystery schools. This is really more of a kable, a Jewish term, because they absorbed all these different traditions and then but they largely plagiarized a lot of them. I think about seventy percent of the kabbala is lifted from Neoplatonism and the aeneads, but they didn't attribute it sore. This stuff goes far back. I mean, the Jews had their country destroyed by Rome in seventy a d. There was a three hundred and fifty year Roman judae and wars. Josephus wrote the book on that, and so there's a lot of enmity and Judaism against Rome, against Rome for destroying their country. Rightfully so, and they were the feistiest providence. The Romans had a hell of a time putting them down. And I mean there were several of the brutal fighting. So a third of the Jews were xelots, wanted to fight, a third or neutral third said we shouldn't fight. But the Xelots were really fighting heavily, and I mean there was two instances where they took over cities of two hundred thousand people and slaughtered every gentile in the city, and the Romans would come down and. Killed more of them. So it was just very intense. And King Herod would they say that's Herod's Wall, which isn't really Herod's Wald's some Roman fort they're they're misidentifying that the Herod said Herod was a gentile puppet Roman king, just to give you understanding of it. So, so there's a lot in a lot of the. Jewish traditions there, they're they're they're they're asking for vengeance against Rome, uh, to militarily defeat them. So in the their idea of the Messiah is a physical king that takes to get some money in the power now and leads them to military victory against Rome, whereas in Christianity it's just it's a spiritual king, and my kingdom's out of this world of spiritual redemption. So I don't know where we're going with that. But but then this is this destruction of the West, these conspiracies against the West to destroy the West, d D. I think I think some of that is coming from this anger at Rome. You know. Yeah, I could definitely say that. I want to bring up your website here, big picture dot watch, uh, and Chris will bring that up for everyone to see. Uh. Yeah, yeah, and I'll bring up the second website for sure. Yes, this is my general site for all my work. Yes, and so you take it away on this one. But yeah, every documentary and you've done a number of them. You can all find a big picture dot watch. But James take it away and tell us about your website. Here, yeah, here, I just got I have rolling interview series with interesting people. There's funds that I have. The films you can fund there and you click films to watch. Those are all the finished films. You you can watch them. Everything's for free. I go donation based, and so I have one on cbdc's I did plan in Lockdown. That was the biggest international peace on the COVID issue. I did one on the Dutch Farmers Extra in two thousand and then Fertility Infertility I Diabolical Agenda. I shot that, but any Wakefield edited. I'm working on a new film if people want to help me fund that, that's called Silent Infertility. On fertility and vaccinations, I'm doing the leading film. And I got a really pretty hair raising information on any fertility uh any fertility effects of vaccination programs and and in Kenya. I went to Kenya and investigated that and found got documents showing they were putting hormones and and and vaccines is proven in a government commission. Gates right like Bill Gates is like your your guy. Yeah, that's the only film I've gotten harassment ever. Funny enough because that's an active program. But this high level critique of these international things, it's like, that's not as dangerous, actually, but this is anyway. But uh so, then if you want to do the World War. Three when we were there, But I got to tell you, you might be one of the most banned men in America with all the topics that you're covering here. I mean you're covering vaccines, you're covering World War three, fertility issues, You're making a lot of enemies over here. Well yeah, I mean, my damn you two pages it ever goes over one hundred thousands at ninety nine thousand and seven hundred. Stayed there for a year, and they just. Like every time I'll put out a video, I'll get all these views, but then it'll be like, oh, you lost ten one hundred, you lost one hundred subscribers this month, but it'll stay the same. So I don't know what is going on with that. They're like, they're like capping it. Yeah, it is. It is a problem. So doing shows like this helps helps people hear about the work. But basically my work and to summarize it all, it's I do high level overviews of the most pressing topics ever time and from a rigorous journalistic view. My mom was a New York Times journalist and she always told me you got to have original sources. I grew up in DC around dignitary. So I'm gonna get to get the highest level guy I can find to articulate these issues. No cranks, no kooks, I'll just get but you know I'm doing it on these controversial topics. But I liked this to I liked be the I am the basically the guy getting the highest level overviews of these things. So in the World War three film here I got three retired German generals top rank. One guy was the highest ranking German general in history. He said the war a recring wars is a fool's errand I got a former CIA director equivalent in France, Alier he that was very interesting discussion on on what's going on the retired French general as well, so several colonels. So this is is really interesting high level view of of of what's going on, How, what what are the historical how repetitions of what's going on. So I'm trying to help people through this troubled period today so they can watch this movie. The film thing seems confusing, it seems scary, but you know, it's it's it's not it's it's it's just a repetition of history. We'll see a lot of bad things happen, but but there's really nothing to be afraid of. I think people should be prepared, be figure, propose these things by gold and silver gets the be critical, think critical, don't fall for all this nonsense. This is not your war. This is these are these are trends of history. Oh there's this Israel Iran war analysis. I wrote that's quite interesting. Uh here click that, Click that real quick because that's so good. Go down a little. This is an interesting. So there's so back in two sixty a d Emperor Valerian invaded Persia and of Rome and he got surrounded and captured. And several months ago the Iranians put up this statue in Tehran commemorating their destruction, their their defeat of Valerian. So this is this is the kind of the mindset that the Iranians are coming from. You know, they defeated Rome back into sixty a D that and then at that time the currency collapsed, So this is very angel Ilsey interviewed Martin Armstrong on this. I'm i'm i'm I'm doing a PhD in economics and studied monetary history and all this stuff. So there's the rise and fall of of coinage and currencies in this. In two sixty a d, Valarian attacks Persia. I got captured. The guy made him like a footstool of the emperor and then he and then he eventually killed him and stuffed him and had him in the court. So anyway, then the currency collapsed. So if you go down here too, there's I made it chart of all the Iranian missile systems there so you can see the number of missiles they have and everything over mark eight slices right through any anti missile defense system. So the number the missile capability of Iran is just tremendous. They they have. I remember watching a Chinese news so I'm getting news from like India, China, all the all around the. World every day that China. This guy was like, if Ran wanted to, could just wipe Israel off the map and with or without a US help. I mean this is so dumb. They're seventy nine times larger than Israel geographically, and it's all mountainous, so it's very easy to hide things. Sound like Iraq. We spent eight years digging around in Iraq, but that's just flat desert. This thing is mountainous. There's all these tunnels everywhere. And then they got ten times more Iranians and they're spread out eighty percent around the country, whereas Israel's really concentrated in two major cities, so it's an easy target for shooting at, you know, Israel. So now they've hit this nuclear bunker, They've just struck this I think Friday they struck this underground servers in Tel Aviv that brought the whole Israeli financial system to a halt for several days. People couldn't transact. This is not sustainable, I mean, and then we're going to wrap our destiny with this mess. I mean that is not smart. No, I completely agree. We need to be asking these types of questions, We need to be pushing back. I mean, I grew up you know, thinking that you know, any anyone who was drafted for the Vietnam War and draft dodged was just this horrible human being. Right as I said, I served in the Marine Corps, like I believed in all this, and now I'm looking at the situation that's arising and potentially another draft coming at US, and I'm like, I wouldn't send my kids to that. I would encourage my kids to not sign up, to leave the country if necessary, because I don't want them dying for some foreign banker war. That's the kind of position that I'm in, and I want more Americans to come to that realization. Yeah, I think, well, they appear to be taking they're they're going to destroy Europe on Russia, the Middle East will turn into a toilet. Hopefully it didn't got nuclear then the US did. They appear to be taking the approach to civil war to divide US through the civil war and this and this increasingly escalated migration issue. I interviewed the top guy in the world in the migration issue for the film, David Beatts in London, and he's a Canadian military historian or counterinsurgency expert, insurgency expert, and he he was really interesting. The guy was very nervous, you know because in England, England, he can really get in trouble. So but this is his civil war strategy. It's like bringing in all these random people, really low quality immigrants that are unskilled, not giving them work permits, which makes no sense. I interviewed the Prince elected Shrine for the film and he says, you know, we really should just this is crazy to not bring them in and not give them a work permit. So they're bringing in only men. Then the media is telling your women to screw them. And then and then you have to get it in gobs of these people, that civil war stuff. He was like, you know, oh, this is uns just then you have the government favor them over the indigenous. That will create civil war environment, a very destabilizing economic and political and cultural environment. So this is this is what's going on in tandem in Europe and the US. And then and then I. Think I touch on that issue and this and this, but it's looking like okay, so now we got Israel war going on. My prediction will be Israel's wars flashing up. Now within a year, the European theater will light up and you might see a front on the Belarus Polish border. And then then we're talking within two years of that or from now the US will start taking on China in a more aggressive way, which is really retarded because I mean, how if projecting the costs, the sheer cost of projecting military power on the other side of the Earth is very expensive, and the Russian and then just lasts like word. The logistical point is that that. The the US weapons systems are extremely expensive systems and the production of them is very inefficient. Like I'm from DC, so you'd always hear that the B fifty two has parts made in every single state, so just so that the congressmen have some kickbacks. But the point is that. The Russian and the Chinese weapons systems are ten percent of the price. They're not made by contractors, they're made directly by the state at efficient prices, and they're new forms of warth like hypersonic missiles. The old aircraft carrier models are really made for World War Two, so the nature of warfare has changed a lot with drawn hypersonic missiles. And the Russians are and the Chinese are producing these. They're producing them at ten percent of the price, and most importantly they have the industrial base to build more of them. In the US and Europe, we've hollowed out the industrial base Germany's and full collapse. It's twenty five percent of the economy of Europe. They're laying off fifty thousand workers a month now, I mean this. The US blowing up the pipes, not stream pipeline, has destroyed the German economy. So we really see in a world war scenario, you have to keep rebuilding the planes, the tanks, the bombs, and keep rebuilding making the more ammunitions. And you need that vast industrial base internally autarchically in the country to keep to propagate a world war, you know, for three to five year extended period, which we did in World War Two. We had all these factories running. Now the US and Europe does not have the industrial based China and Russia do. Granted they have their problems, they have all kinds of issues internally. Their people don't really want to fight at World War either. But and the Russians are fleeing. I've traveled in Central Asia and during this Reukraine war, they're just fleeing Russia to get away from the draft. Bali. I went to. Bali was like filled with Russians that just came the last two or three years just to get their money out and. Just get out of there. So so there's there do face issues. I'm not going to say it's all rosie, but they have the industrial base to propagate this war and we don't, so we will lose necessarily. And this is not because I'm ragging on the US. I'm just saying it's it's just an analysis of basic common sense analysis here. And then my film tries to is imparting this to the public to to not make these very predictable mistakes. I mean, I got to tell you, I say to a number of guests, I got to have you back, but I got to have you back. I mean there's someone that we did not get to that I want to cover. Certainly, the civil war that they seem to be engineering in the United States would be a very interesting topic. I've been I've been covering that, but I mean there's so much going on, like there's such a bleak picture for what could happen to us, and so we'll definite we have to have another conversation. I did want to ask you one more question. Then I'll circle back to your websites because I really want to push people to that. But the significance of so many of these statues coming up in Iran of bail and they're they're igniting them. Can you talk about that a little bit? The ball, Uh, that's the ball is an old Phoenician god like in ball Back and Lebanon. I visited that. This is really interesting stone sites. They're like these huge stones bruins. They say they're Roman, but they could be older from some other civilization. I don't know. It's like these huge stones and then on top of them are these Roman temples. But Ball. Yeah, this child sacrifice idea of of of killing the kids for the good fortune or for power, I. Honestly don't know what what. I haven't read a lot into the end of the child sacrifice of the of the Phoenicians. And but I mean a lot of cultures did that. The Mayans said that the sex did that. You'd scare the scare the people, you'd use it for political control or or you or I think in magic traditions, like you know, you can kill a chicken, they do this coba pod ritual with the chicken and they transfer the sins to the chicken and kill the chicken. There was an old practice called the scapegoat ritual they used to do in the temple. That was, they would say they transfer the sins of the Jews to these two goats. One would run. Off, symbolizing the fleeing away of the sins, and the other one they would kill and to Satan because the god of the Gentiles of Satan, so they would so he doesn't complain to Yahweh about the crimes of the juice of the Gentiles. And that's why we have this goat symbolism for Satan is from this old scapegoat ritual thing. So I think this ball ball is this Phoenician god that was the god of child sacrifice. And and so with the Epstein files and all the stuff going on, and they're burning these the Persians are really saying, look, you know, this is the West is corrupt. It's run by these pedophile, elite ball worshiping devils. And so they so they and I mean on the FCN emails, there was a few things he called one of his bank accounts ball like, and he got this, he got this weird disease in his face and it looked like it could be this jerky eating inducing you know, the cannibalism kind of thing. There was weird stuff in there. I mean, it's really nerving to go through that stuff. So they ball there and they ran there burning effigies. Of ball uh. And then I think a few other countries, so I think they saw one in Pakistanta as saying, oh, the corrupt Western elite or just a bunch of baby eating ball worshiping Satanists, pedophiles. And I mean literally, it's funny. I saw this general on Ranian TV. He's like, he's like Trump's a pedophile and the East kids, it's like right on the UN news, you know, and it's like wild crazy stuff. So yeah, it's creepy, creepy, this sacrifice. Yeah, And I mean I will say and once again, you know you always got to say this, but you're not on the side of Iran. You're not on the side of Russia and everything. But they're right about some of the stuff. I'm not excusing the atrocities that occurred and Iran over the years, but they're right about this. And so we really need to question that as Americans, as people who truly love liberty, love our republic, want to restore that, we need to start questioning who our leaders are the actions that they're taking, what they're trying to get us engaged in. So I'm going to once again point to the websites number one World War three documentary dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, you have got to watch this documentary. It is so important. So go to the website. Go ahead, sir, so here I go. Here I got. The first video is a nine minute trailer surprising the World War and the bottom one is like a four minute my initial one by going to false flag that that wars a racket. It's it's nobody benefits. You know, two hundred and thirty million people died in the twentieth century due to wars. So we really don't want to make this mistake. And we really we need good people to go into government and and to to improve our country and and be friends with other countries and and and be an example in the world. You don't make the world better by harming other people or bombing other people. You make the world better by making yourself better. You know. It's it's a it's a law of a divine law that if everyone made themselves a better person than all the world's people be better. So I completely agree with that the other website is Big Picture. Not watch, Ladies and gentlemen, why not watch something that is actually fulfilling, that actually teaches you something. You know, we just had the Oscars. I didn't watch it. I don't know anybody who did watch it. But instead of watching the Oscar where a bunch of pedos are giving each other awards, maybe go to Big Picture, not watch and watch one of these documentaries. That'd be my suggestion personally, James, what say you there? Yeah? I did the hard the high quality cinema production films on the best bit, miss hearted pressing issues of our day. And please donate to my work because it's it's it's very difficult to do these things. I just now get little donations and and and larger donors to help me with this. But it's it's a work of passion to help people. It's not a money making. Thing I'm doing here, you know, sure, absolutely sorry. I would encourage people to go to the website and also hit the donate button. Don't just watch the films, enjoy the films, but please people like this that are that are putting literally everything at risk, this is their mission and they need our support. Leason gentlemen, so please hit the donate button. Well, James, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on the show. Like I said, we're definitely gonna have to have you back. There's a lot of conversations that I want to have that we weren't able to. We went long as well. I know, I told you it'd only go forty five minutes. I apologize for keeping you along, but you're such an interesting guest that I just had to do that so we. Can recircle back, you know, I mean a lot will happen between now in just two weeks. You know, it's so true quickly, you know. Yeah, absolutely no, no one can say that they're bored, that's for sure with current events. James, I'm gonna go ahead and close us out. If you hold on one more minute post production of Sarah goodbyes, I'd appreciate it. But again, thank you for your time, Thank you for all your work, Thank you for sounding the alarm on all of these things. Cool. Thanks thanks for having me a nice, nice gun there behind you there. Oh, thank you. That's how I trigger people. Yeah, all right, well again, I thank you for your time. All right, Well, we're going to close that ladies and gentlemen. It's been a fascinating conversation. One of these This is one of those episodes that I really think that you should share to as many people as you can, because we need we need neighborhoods talking about this, we need local politicians of the city council talking about these kinds of issues because we are getting dragged into a war that we really have no business in. And not just beyond that, we also we're going to suffer. We're going to suffer greatly. And if you don't want that for your country, if you don't want that for your children, your grandchildren, then it's time to take action. Church and State is brought to you in part by Colonial Life, Spokane Independent Agents, Finders Insurance, and Mark three to seven dot Com. I'm Caleb Collier. I was born for a storm. Welcome to the fire.