Countdown to Midnight - Prepper Camp 2025 w/ Jordan the Phoenix and Rick Austin

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[00:00:33] Jay Ferg, here we are. The Countdown to Midnight. Prepper Camp 2025. How are you feeling? Good. I'm actually already tired. I know. I don't know that we'll even make it to midnight or not, but we'll get close enough. We have the countdown down below folks. So two hours, 51 minutes left to get your Prepper Camp tickets before they go up in price.

[00:00:59] So if you've been hanging on to that, you've been hanging on to that desire. Now's the time to make it happen. You know what? And I think we're going to say this a lot tonight. A lot is do not let the Trump slump be the reason why you're not making the move.

[00:01:16] That's a great point. I think if anything, this should be the time and the encouragement to go ahead and get going because we don't know what we're going to be looking at in the next year or the next few months. We have, what was that? I said in a week, it feels like. Right. We don't. But we don't know who's going to be in office next term either. And it's like anything can happen between now and tomorrow.

[00:01:43] Yeah. Why be blindsided? We've been blindsided in the past. We've seen America blindsided in the past by things, particularly with Donald Trump in office, which is the most interesting part about the old Trump slump. Right. It's like we I've seen this show before. I remember this one. Then COVID popped out of nowhere and we had that fun house for a while to deal with. But we'll see. We shall see. Right.

[00:02:11] Yeah. Just because moves are being made to improve things doesn't mean it's going to fix it overnight. I mean, there's nothing is going to be the end all be all or the absolute fix it with one person. Yeah, I think that's a good way to look at it. We're going to have you on the Prepper Camp Speaker Series, Jordan, one of these days so we can talk about your class and everything. I can't wait. It's one. And I think it's one of the most important ones at Prepper Camp personally.

[00:02:42] Me too. But then again, I'm a little biased. Hmm. Yeah, but it's so cool. That's not true. I don't think mine's one of the most important, but I do think mine and it's not to be conceited. I think mine is up there on people don't give it enough attention to understanding the capabilities or what's going to be needed as far as their capabilities in that in that area. It's definitely a dark horse for sure. It is. Yeah.

[00:03:11] Yeah. But what what's so crazy about it is when you go to the class, you really do feel like it. And it's in one class, at least from my experience, it was in one class that I felt like, oh, I could do that. And I don't know if I went to other classes like that where I felt that way, to be honest. Yeah, I actually have had a gentleman come to my class every year for the last several years that I've been teaching. And he says it never gets duller.

[00:03:41] He goes, if anything, I see you up in the bar a little bit because, you know, as times change, things change with information. And he said that he goes, your class is just as enthralling and and and pulls you in as and as it was the very first year he took it. So it always makes me feel good. And then people who go, I just took this class as a filler and I left with four pages of notes.

[00:04:08] So I don't get offended either way because it's like, you know what, it's a happy accident. You know, I got to go with Bob Ross on that one. It was a happy accident that they took class and then it turned out even better. So it's definitely one of the few that you go to and it feels like start to finish. A lot of classes I go to and there's still great classes, but a lot of classes I go to, I feel like, well, I got a lot of work to do when I get home to figure this out.

[00:04:34] You know what I mean? And yours, when I left your class was like, if I had those things that she had, I think we could probably do some do some fiber work at home. And that that's to me, that's like the feeling you want when you leave a prepper camp class is like I could go home and do that, you know, to me. Yeah, I love it. I love it. And the fact that everybody of all ages takes the class.

[00:05:01] Yeah. What'd you think about the Coeur d'Alene situation when you saw that madness go down? The fire, the firefighters getting called in and shot. Did you pay attention to that at all? I've seen it. I haven't had a chance to really sit down and watch it. But from my understanding, it really isn't much different than some of the scenarios we're running in the continuity. I know. It's so weird.

[00:05:28] It's actually very similar to a scenario that we ran two Mondays ago. Yeah. Yeah. It's really weird. That was a really weird thing. And similar in the instance of using certain tragedies or instances to draw out more for additional casualties. And it was just. It's exactly what came to mind. Yeah. The world is an absolute sick place. And again, another reason we should be prepping.

[00:05:57] Another reason we should be doing more. Oh, sure. For sure. Yeah. To me, it felt like it felt like a feeling out. Like, it was like, let's see what we could do if we threw together a little bit of a distracto with the firefighters and a forest fire and an ambush. How much chaos could we? I'm not convinced. See, they say they found one killer and he had a gun next to him. Yeah.

[00:06:26] I'm not convinced that there was just one. Seems weird, right? With the layout, I mean, as many times as we've seen other instances where people are being attacked and it's three, you know, same body total, but three or four shooters. So I don't know. I thought it was two. I thought originally it was two. Because originally when I heard it, they said it was two gunmen.

[00:06:53] So the fact that now it's just one makes me wonder, did someone cop out and do a plea deal for? For some info. So. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's it's weird. The face of domestic terrorism is weird now. You know, it's varied. It's not always tan. You know what I mean? And it's not always you're not always like you're not always like, oh, it's a guy from the Middle East. I think we're going to see more of that.

[00:07:19] I think we're going to see some some Caucasian converts that do some Islamic terrorism in the very near future, to be honest. Yeah. I well, I think a big issue we're going to see is I'm I'm not by any means cutting down mental illness in any way. But we have become an age where mental illness is the precipice or the pinnacle point of personalities. And it's an identity. Now, I'm not right.

[00:07:45] I'm not demeaning people who have general mental health issues and they're doing everything that needs to be taken care of. I mean, like the extreme crazies and the fact that we've glorified it. What what good is what what's going to happen when you have all these people who are so mentally unstable and it's like, oh, it's OK. That's just your personality. And then all of a sudden they're shooting up. Well, don't worry. You told them it was OK. Yeah.

[00:08:13] Listening to the voices in their head and it's just their personality. Yeah, it is a weird thing. I heard an interesting podcast from one who's talking about the effects of like over therapizing, like going to therapy too much and and like ripping open old wounds every week for your life.

[00:08:36] There is a point where communicating will help getting certain things off your chest. Yeah. Will help. But the issue. Is it cutting out on me or. I don't know. It looks OK. OK. On my end, it started spinning. So that's why I wanted to make sure. But what what we're seeing is there hits a point when you overly open a wound that's already healed itself.

[00:09:06] And I'm not saying that people don't need help, but there hits a point where human nature is to cope in a certain level. If I were to go back and go through my past, you know, past trauma, however you want to say it as a child, I'd really be messed up because your body has a natural way of protecting and defending itself on certain levels. Oh, yeah. There's no reason to push. You not always good things don't always come from it. Right.

[00:09:35] You don't want to be driving down that path over and over again. Sometimes you want to let those paths grow in. Right. Well, that's the whole thing is trauma is pain. OK, pain is trauma. But there hits a point where as people, as humans, when we grow, when we develop. Well, yes, there are things we have to work to get past. But what we're doing is we're healing. We're healing those wounds.

[00:09:59] And yes, the pain may never fully go away, but we learn to live and adjust to a way that we can manage that pain, that it's not on the forefront cutting us every time it's there. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's that's part of the problem. And also, like you said, it being fashionable, it is, you know, fundamentally fashionable to be on the spectrum and to be, you know, to have a thing like, oh, my thing is this. I'm sure there's quite a few people who are and probably even in our own group.

[00:10:28] And we're just quirky. But I mean, oh, definitely. Right. We've learned to adjust and socialize and went through the pains of being teenagers and awkward teens and weird adults. I'm weird and I am perfectly fine with it. But it is. Yeah, it is gotten to be too popular to be something that's kind of I hate to say it. Do you remember in high school when the jelly bands were so popular?

[00:10:57] Oh, yeah. Well, then what else happened during that trend of all of a sudden it was cool to be a cutter? I wasn't a cutter, but I had named probably six girls who were cutters. Or all of a sudden I get teenage years are difficult. But everybody's bisexual. And I was like, oh, I know like six girls in my group who all of a sudden came out as being bisexual and wearing all these very tight clothes.

[00:11:25] And I'm like, and it felt like it was a fad because half those women, once they became adults, aren't even who they identified in high school. And it's like, I felt like it was a fad more than it was their actual individual identity. Definitely. Or worse, the jelly bracelets became their identity. Dude. Yeah. We knew girls that had like, this is like their whole arm was in those damn things. Yes. Yes. And then of course, you know, the safety pins.

[00:11:54] We were all wearing safety pins. But I'm like, you take those off. Oh, Breezy is in the audience. Actually, they didn't. They would actually wear them until they dry rotted off. My girlfriend didn't wear them in the shower. I remember. Yeah. They'd become super dingy and start falling off. No. I had like one or two bracelets, but I don't like keeping things on my wrist. So I always doubled them sideways so I could take them off because I never understood the whole fad of, yeah, all the way up.

[00:12:24] Wild. Wild. It was a fun time. It was definitely a fun time at Hot Topic in 19, no, it was more like 2002. 2002, 2003. Yeah. Before Hot Topic became pastel. Whatever it is now, right? Yeah. I don't know what it is. It feels like almost like a darker side of Hollister with its tones. Yeah. I could go there. That makes sense. I could find that for sure. Yeah.

[00:12:54] That was a fun time.

[00:13:26] It was a fun time. Adulthood. Prepping. Shoot. We can tie it to that even. I prep the way I feel is best for my family. I'm not following some sort of trend. Right. Because right now, I'm seeing a huge uptick, especially on TikTok, of people selling cases of MREs. Having lives and selling them. And I'm just like, y'all.

[00:13:52] And I'm just like, y'all, anyone who is military, anyone who wasn't military and has had MREs, you know for a fact MREs are not sustainable for an extensively long period of time. And what it's going to do to your gut health and everything else that's in it, it's like, right, right. There's a reason they have the gum in there. Or they used to. The gum had a laxative in it. Oh, really? Because the MREs would, yeah, they would bind you up. That's why you kept the gum.

[00:14:21] And so you could chew the gum after a while to help you. Because the sugar and stuff in it helps you move everything out. Otherwise, you'll bind up. Yeah. During Rational Ruin, we did some MRE eating. And I'll tell you, as good as it was because we weren't eating much else, there's about 10 other ways you can put up food that will last longer than an MRE and be better than an MRE, you know? Hey, Breezy, I just realized that you said Breezy here.

[00:14:51] It's good to see you. Oh, yeah, it's Breezy. It's Breezy Can, man. The Salvage Valley Homestead is pretty fun on YouTube. It's Chicken TV. I like it. I'm working on that. I'm minding. I've got a few. I know. I love those things. What are those things with the Mohawks? I'm not good with the chicken breeds. Those are actually Polish chickens. Oh, they're just called Polish chickens. And then they'll end up fluffing all the way out and have this large crown or fluffy cap. But you know what? I won't look a gift horse and a mouse. A mouse.

[00:15:22] Kristen. So Del's Avery is on Facebook. I met her in Ohio. And she actually gave me several sets of eggs to come down with. And then she's the one who milled me the additional eggs. And I have seven more chicks I've hatched from her. And you know what? I'm appreciative for every chicken that I have because trying to get your flock to grow, you kind of need a little diversity. And it's going to be interesting to see which breeds handle in what way versus me sticking to the same four breeds I've known all my life.

[00:15:51] I'm that guy. I'm either sticking to the breeds I know or going for the breeds that are available in the moment when I want chickens that are laying, you know? So I have a Buckeye, which is a heritage breed. And I'm excited to see how it does. I'm hoping it's a hen, but if it's a rooster, I'll be okay. Okay. I love my Rhode Island Reds, but I actually don't have any Reds. I have Brahma Easter egg mixers, another Polish. I even have a Silky in the mix.

[00:16:21] So we'll see. Yeah. You bring up a great point though, Jay Ferg, about, and this would, our audience would appreciate and understand this about prepping the way that you want to and engaging in the things that are important to you and your family and not just doing things that even you or I say to the podcast audience, you know, that is so crucial. And you know, that is one of those huge benefits of Prepper Camp because you have 60 classes to go to.

[00:16:49] So you could definitely find what you want. My goal this year is to actually take more classes because in the past I've gotten so tied up in my classes that I'm teaching. Yeah. That I get or trying to be at the booth, but now it's like, okay, I'm excited with some of the people, some of the hosts here or speakers who are coming that I'm like, okay, I am definitely taking this class. So I'm like sitting there waiting until crunch time to find out who's are in what block to see if I can go to the class. Yeah. That's Christmas.

[00:17:19] When that schedule comes out, that's like Christmas. You know what I mean? And we get the schedule and go, oh, where's my class? And where's Dave? And where's Jordan? And where's everybody at? Yeah. That's a fun time. It's like usually about a week before. Nancy says the Canadian MREs are even worse. Boom. Yeah. There you go. Canadian bacon in a tube or something like that in a can, right? Yeah. You know, I wouldn't say American MREs aren't terrible.

[00:17:49] They just, they're rough on you. Well, you, to anyone who had a normal American food, then yes, I imagine it is terrible, but if you're hungry, food's food. But I want to get some of the ones you were showing me that you had on your life that are soy free. Because I'm not against having a few on hand. I think they're great for disasters. I think they're great for emergencies. There have been plenty of times that I've camped and set up and I didn't have time to get my

[00:18:19] tent up and an MRE was a quick, easy fix. Look at this big boy out of the Lima Tango bag. That's a big old fat daddy MRE. That is nice. I was looking for the essential provisions. Yeah. I need to get some of those. I know the other ones, some of the other MRE styles, there's a gnat, sorry, are like adult Lunchables with how they're made now. Whoa.

[00:18:48] That meat in, my son stopped eating Lunchables. He really liked them for a little while, but he stopped eating them. I'm so happy because that meat, I don't know what that is. Did you see the lead? No. How much? Oh my God. Recently, right before we moved, they had done testing and the Lunchables keep a dangerous amount of lead in every single one of them. And it's like, we've been eating that and feeding that to our kids.

[00:19:15] And it's like the pizza ones and the bologna ones had like the highest lead content. Pizza? Pizza? That one's so bad. The pizza? Yeah, but that was always the one we went to. I could never get behind that one. I could never get behind it. Oh, I just did the cheese pizza and not the pepperoni one. Yeah. I couldn't. Pizza was such a big thing growing up in our neighborhood that it was like, you'd get that weird, sad, cold pizza that wasn't cooked. So we're not pizza people, though. Even like into adulthood, I'm not a big pizza person.

[00:19:45] Like we have to like absolutely be in the mood to even want pizza. So Breezy says, we are so happy when we got to eat American ones at Fort Lewis. Hey, it's better than nothing, like Jordan said. Yeah. You know, that is one of those things, too, in the prepping world nowadays that has kind of grown into this movement all, you know, all on its own, which is, you know, I guess

[00:20:13] it's the homesteading side of prepping now. But it's, you know, what food is in what food is coming into your home and, you know, what to your point, what is the balance that you want to make in all of that? Like Dave Jones always gets on and talks about, you know, 80 percent. I think he said like 50 percent of his food is grown right now, which is awesome. But I think it's important, you know, for each individual to figure out like, what do I want to buy from the supermarket? Do I want to buy anything from the supermarket?

[00:20:43] And what do I want to grow and raise at home? You know, because it's. Yeah. Our goal is to have chickens. I would like a secondary protein source. I'm looking at rabbits. I do want to eventually have some sheep just because of the fiber end of it. But you can eat sheep. It's delicious. I would be OK with the turkey. But I do want to have some sort of secondary protein option here.

[00:21:13] Elsewise, the garden is not producing much this year. But my goal is to have almost a full production garden. So then I can actively can and put away and preserve. And oh, yeah, that's because I would I'd like to get away from as much store bought as possible, just with the number of recalls that I'm watching, whether it be water bottles. Well, there was something else. There was some sort of produce that was recalled recently.

[00:21:42] And there was some other like canned food that was recalled recently as well. There's they do a lot of recalls. There's a lot of recalls now. There's a lot and a lot of them are E. coli and salmonella and flesh eating bacteria. And it's like, what the hell, man? You boys want a plate of flesh eating bacteria for lunch? Sounds good. Yeah, that's that. Well, that's I know that's the motivation. That's why I got like pasta with a side of amoeba.

[00:22:12] Oh, yeah, that's terrifying. Oh, two hours, 30 minutes left. PBN family, Twitter, X, whoever you are, Rumble, YouTube, everyone out there. You got two hours, 30 minutes left to get your tickets. Twenty five percent off. Once it's midnight, the ticket prices go up for Prepper Camp 2025. So head over there. Prepper Camp dot com. Well, absolutely. And get your tickets and then you can come say hi to us and hang out with us.

[00:22:42] Yeah, man. Oh, and don't think we won't hang out like we don't sneak away to some secret tour bus or something. No rock stars. We'll be right there with you. We'll be right there with you for sure. Oh, perfect timing. And the end of the hour. Huh? It was one hundred and forty three hundred forty three thousand pounds of prepackaged baloney was recalled.

[00:23:09] Oh, well, what the hell even is baloney, right? Everything. Oh, there you go. Sorry. You want to pull them in? Yeah, let's bring the Godfather in himself. Rick Austin. How are you, my man? We're off and running here. We've got two hours, twenty nine minutes left. How are you this evening? I'm doing good. Good. Just, just, just, just, just sprayed off the sweat.

[00:23:39] The sweat and the goat fur and the whole nine yards, right? Not so much goat fur. Rabbit fur, maybe. But yeah. There you go. We were just trying to figure out what the hell baloney was because we're talking about sort of the growing your own food. It's emulsified. It's emulsified meat.

[00:23:58] What they do is they, what they do is they take it, they put it in a big vat and then they boil it and it becomes just this particle stuff that they stick together and dry out. And that's baloney. Dang. And it's all the best parts, too. Yeah. I like some of the best parts, though. I'm very partial to scrapple. I love me some scrapple, man. And, but yeah, baloney, that's, that's one that always. Oh, you don't like scrapple?

[00:24:27] Not even crispy like? I have never tried it. I'm not going to. Salvage Valley Homestead says hi, Rick. Have your books and love them. Great. Dang, the breezy is reading the good stuff. Yeah, you can't beat that one. You can't, well, all of them, really. Yeah. Yeah, I actually keep my, uh, my secret garden one, like right here and every now and then go back through it to see how I could change things up.

[00:24:56] Yeah, mine's behind me somewhere there. Right on that bottom shelf. Yeah, they're great, man. They're great. We were, we were talking about, uh, how, how the prepping movement has sort of, and you were a big part of it, Rick, was it has taken in that sort of homesteading food production sort of angle. And now people, I think, who are in health are starting to look at that, you know, as a, as a legitimate option.

[00:25:23] And, you know, maybe less organic produce purchasing from stores as the answer and more growing it at home sort of stuff. Because that seems to be the way people are thinking these days, which is good, you know? Yeah.

[00:25:36] Well, it was, it was funny when, uh, when we had doomsday preppers here, um, one of the producers was talking about how his fiance's wife was a bunch of his fiance's parents were a bunch of granola eating upstate New York hippies. And, um, he just said that, you know, they would love what you do.

[00:26:00] You know, you, you kind of span the gap between preparedness minded people and the, you know, the old hippies. So, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's something to be said for growing your own food without GMOs and all the other crap that they put in it. If you understood how, how meat is raised and what they're putting in this food, um, it's not good.

[00:26:23] And I heard the other day that they're actually putting, they're actually putting the vaccine into some of our processed foods. I heard that. I heard that about produce and stuff too. And I heard that the future of produce production is going to be vaccination for the plants themselves. You know what I mean? To protect from diseases. It's going to, it's, it's, it's how they're getting it in us. I didn't consent to that.

[00:26:50] I didn't give my consent to, uh, to the vaccination, to that being in my body. And they're already finally coming out with the stuff that what it's doing to the heart and everything else with the blood vessels. It's like, okay, why are you still pushing this? It's called population control. Right. That's true. It's called agenda 2030.

[00:27:14] It's called getting rid of 95% of the population so that the elites can just have a few slaves to do what they need to do. AI and robots will do the rest. Well, when you choose the breed and who you want to use for the breed and then you have all of the control. I mean, the biggest issue with the vaccines that we're seeing is it is affecting production at a high number.

[00:27:42] Yeah, that was an earth of a scare I had early on. Yeah, I put it to you that that was, that was planned. And do you guys ever see the the the TV movie series Utopia? Utopia. No, I know. I've heard it. But I haven't watched it yet. There's the there's a British version, which is actually pretty good. And then there's a US version with John Cusack.

[00:28:08] And John Cusack is a is a multi billionaire pharmacy guy who invaded invented these these drugs. And he's all green and he rides his bicycle to work. And he's he's he's like the epitome of looking out for the planet.

[00:28:28] And he creates a quote unquote pandemic that requires a vaccine that the FDA that the public is screaming for. It's all staged. And come to find out that the vaccine makes everybody sterile. So if you took the vaccine, you weren't going to have you aren't going to reproduce. Wow. That sounds like something that happened in the past. Yes, I can't really put my finger.

[00:28:58] Right. Sounds very familiar. What's up, Larry Denny? I guess we'll see you at Prepper Camp 2025, man. Yeah, I can't wait. Oh, we've got Christine from East Tennessee. Tennessee in the chat room. Farm chick. I'm assuming you and Larry will both be at Prepper Camp 2025, right? If you haven't got your tickets yet, Christine and Larry got two hours until the price goes up. So, but yeah, can't wait to see it for sure.

[00:29:28] Can't wait to see a ton of. Larry's kind of the hero of Tennessee. He, he led a whole caravan back from Prepper Camp and they had to go the long way to get back because they had to get around. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. The road was out. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. So, uh, they, I think it was, I don't know if it was a 10 hour or 12 hour trip for them to, to go, but it was, it was, uh, and he kept people together and they found places for people to refuel.

[00:29:55] And it was, uh, pretty amazing for all the people that were from Tennessee that had to go back. Yeah. It was some amazing stuff. You guys pulled some amazing stuff together, man. Last year for sure. There's no doubt about it. I think, I think it really showed the resourcefulness of, uh, camp itself as Prepper Camp as a whole, as well as the individuals who go to it.

[00:30:18] Because I could tell you twice that two people who didn't even know us poured gas into our gas tank from their gas cans. Cause we were on E when we drove in and they made sure we had more than enough that we didn't have to stop till we got well past a good hour and a half to two hours out before we had to actually stop, which worked out for perfectly for us. Because then we found gas stations that were actually working. It definitely is a testament to the folks who are there.

[00:30:47] Not even just the speakers, but to the people who were there, you know, like, uh, Jasmine and all that she did. It's yeah. It's that weird Prepper Camp people thing that you have to really come to the event to see, you know what I mean? You get around the, it draws in a certain kind of person and it's just, it's really weird when you get there and you start to take notice of the type of people that are there. It's one of those things. And nobody panicked.

[00:31:15] It was just, it was, people were concerned, but everybody was calm. I actually knew we were going to be fine growing up in the Ozarks, being on top of a mountain. I would have rather been there than somewhere else, to be honest with you. High grounds, the best anyways. And Christine says she was home holding down the fort since there was no roads to get there. But good thing is she'll be able to be there this year. Yeah.

[00:31:40] And, you know, like from my experience with Prepper Camp, we usually get some, not necessarily that kind of a torrential nightmare, but we usually get some rough weather. And then it leads the next year into a beautiful year. Right. We have one year where it's rainy, then the next year it's swelter and hot. And then. The year before was the best, I think. The year 2023, I guess it was. Right. 2023 was phenomenal. 2019 was hotter than Hades. 2022 was a downpour.

[00:32:10] And then, yeah, 2023 was. But was it 2019? No, 2019. Yeah, it was hot. It was my first year I went was 2019. It was hot as all get out. It's a big ass storm that year, too, I think. No, that was the following year. That was the following year. Because my tent leaped on me. Yeah. Yeah, I stayed at your guys camp that year. And then the following year I stayed with Dave Jones. That's right. Yeah, that.

[00:32:39] I got to get some t-shirts about. I bunked with the NBC guy t-shirts. I think that. Yeah. Yeah. I can't wait, though. I mean, to have our full crew back. Oh, it's going to be so good. It's going to be so good. Yeah, definitely. We lost you for a second there, Rick. Everything all good? Oh, we got no audio on you. Oh. Oh, that's because I muted it. There it is.

[00:33:09] We're in now. Now we got you back. Cool. Yeah, it's going to be a good showing for PBN, for sure. L. Douglas Hoggarty's teaching, right? No, he's not. Oh, he's not teaching? No, he's not going to this year. We got Ryan Buford. Well, he'll probably be there, though, I bet. Ryan Buford will be teaching. He'll be there. You and I, Dave Jones. Who else is going to be there? I don't know if the MatterFacts guys are coming around.

[00:33:38] Sarah, of course. I always freaking forget. Sarah puts on the super shows, too, man. Her classes are so good. She'll have you out there judo throwing people. We'll get Dane D out there. Dane, man. I ain't heard from Dane in a while. So Breezy wants to do a prep or snow camp in northern Alberta, Rick. I hope that's a joke, Breezy, because that would be a tough ask for me to get. I couldn't do it. Yeah.

[00:34:07] I had a guy today ask me if I would be interested in doing a prepper camp in the UK. So he's got 32 acres of land there. Wow. That's a lot for a UK bloke. They wouldn't even let you in the country, Rick. Probably not. I don't think any of us would because, I mean, we are open on our platforms on how we speak.

[00:34:32] I'm sure the UK would try to find a reason to arrest us because it's against the government, whatever. Whatever they're saying is. Oh, yeah. That would be it. Or they'd have like a big busload of Muslims pull up and then we'd have to shut the whole thing down. Yeah. I don't think we'd be able to get our firearms into this country. Right. I was going to say they would all be armed with forks. Yeah. No, that's a good point. You can't even have knives in the UK, right? No.

[00:35:01] Well, it really is a test. I mean, you watch the world turn and you watch things get more and more dire and you just appreciate that ever loving Second Amendment so much more when you watch it happen. You know, you watch Europe going under and it's like, God, we'd be in the same boat without other countries. Oh, I do too. I feel for other countries with their limitations because it's like, how do you live not knowing that? If somebody attacks you, there's not really much you can do. Isn't that crazy?

[00:35:30] I mean, that's just so crazy. That I'm just like point and click. Yeah. Yeah. I knew a guy who had who had, you know, a rifle, but it was registered to him and his wife could not use it even if she was being attacked or he was being attacked. And it had to be in a safe locked up in the attic. I mean, it's so nobody can use it if they're being attacked. Right. Right.

[00:35:59] You know what the closest to the UK is, is probably like New York and California with their gun laws. Well, the tool man told me Canada was no picnic. He said that you could, the police could come to your house anytime in Canada to check, see if your guns are locked up properly and unloaded. Australia is not much better either. You can only get it if you can get it approved as a hunting rifle. And you have to use it.

[00:36:26] I actually have to show you that it's being used for the hunting source from my understanding. Uh oh, we got big news from Salvage Valley Homestead. That's a big deal. Breezy Can got herself a certain license today up there in Canada. Well, we're glad to hear that, Breezy. And one of your listeners told you to tell the missus hello. Oh, Christine. Miss Christine. Yeah. Yeah, man.

[00:36:55] It's a beautiful thing that's like, what do we have Second Amendment wise? Anyways, we got, uh, is Red Eye Reloading going to be there again? Yeah, he's going to be there. Yeah, that's a good one. That's a great one for fire owners today. We got a lot of tactics, tactical stuff. Oh, well, that's good. We've got Kerry Elsner that's going to do a CQB type thing.

[00:37:19] And he's also going to do, I can't remember the name of the class or what the name is, but basically it's bailing out under fire. Oh, out of the vehicle. Yeah, I did. I wanted to take that one last year. Yeah, that was last year too. Or it was supposed to be last year, right? Are you going to still have the butchering? What was that? James? Yeah. James with the butchering? Yeah, James is doing butchering. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great one, man. Yeah.

[00:37:47] That's such an underrated skill, man. Knowing how to take an animal apart, turn it into dinner. That's one of those things I'm glad I learned. We had purchased, you know, actually we had purchased three half hogs so that we would have one for each day for James' class. And the plan was to butcher the meat and into the various different cuts. Uh-oh. Oh.

[00:38:19] Hey, don't be so quiet over there on X, man. There's 40 people watching over on X. You're allowed to comment. I guess we get the X comments, right? Have you ever got a comment from X? We do. Yes. I get them when people actually want to speak. Every now and then I have to scroll up to make sure it's not. I think he froze up pretty bad. Yeah, he froze. I think he'll probably go off and come back like he did earlier. But yeah, if you're over there. Oh, there we go.

[00:38:48] Oh, my man, the common sense practical. Hi. Thanks, dude. Now I know for a fact that that thing works over there. That's good to know. The common sense practical. Yeah. You may be hearing a little more about the common sense practical prepper on PBN. Yeah. We'll leave it at that for now, huh? But yeah. Awesome. Awesome showing on all sides here. I wonder what's going on at Rumble. I haven't logged in over there to see who's hanging out over there.

[00:39:18] Well, their comments would come up on here, too, though. Oh, that's right. Yeah, that's right. Right. And it's not showing it. I'm trying to pull up. I know we got the email for Prepper Camp. I was going to pull up the list of just some of the classes so we could. Oh, yeah. We might as well. That's a good call. Why not? That's what I was going to do is pull up the email because this last email had a list of some of the classes. Yeah, why not? What you seeing?

[00:39:48] I know we got a really great canning class from the Canning Diva. That should be an awesome one. I'm excited. That's going to be a good one. She's doing food preservation, too. Yeah. What's really cool about the Canning Diva is she was – Jane had been following her. They've been following each other for years online and, you know, trying to get her to come to Prepper Camp. She wanted to come to Prepper Camp. This is the first year she's been able to do it. But she is like the primo canning person.

[00:40:17] She does stuff like – she'll do experiments. I think she did – people said, oh, you couldn't can potatoes. So she canned potatoes and then she took it to a lab a year later and it was absolutely fine. That's a great idea. That's the kind of stuff that she does. That's a great idea. Yeah. You know, I was surprised and not surprised after we had our conversation.

[00:40:43] She talked about wanting to get more prep – become more of a Prepper. You know what I mean? And add more of those kinds of Prepping skills and tactical skills to the game. And that – I get that from people, man, all the time. All the time. I've ran into other moms who are like, oh, we do a lot of natural stuff. And I mentioned I'm a Prepper. And they're like, you know, we may need you to come speak because we're trying to get more into the Prepping. Yeah, I'm telling you, it's a thing.

[00:41:13] It's a thing that people, I think, are just now starting to have, like, the permission to do without mass criticism from friends and family. You know, like, things have been crazy enough now where I think people are thinking, you know what? We can get crazy and do a little bit of Prepping stuff. And, you know, we won't be ostracized for it. Yeah, it's a good sign. It is a good sign.

[00:41:41] It does feel like we're starting to walk it back a little bit, the comfort and convenience of it all. And are we are there? Is there going to be a stop the bleed? Yeah. You read it the same time I did. Yeah. OK. Because on that email that you sent for anyone who signed up, I was trying to go through the list to see if that was on there, because I know it says you can learn. And it's just a plethora of skill sets.

[00:42:11] There's a stop the bleed class. Yeah. Morris, our EMT, is teaching that. He has been our EMT forever. Is Hakeem going to be there again this year? No. OK. Yeah, I didn't get to see Chin's class last year. I'm really looking forward to that. That's going to be awesome. Same. Right? The mesh plastic. I was sitting here today and just had an epiphany that we have a 3D printer upstairs.

[00:42:37] And up until now, I just never even wrapped my head around like, why don't I just make them? I could just make the radios probably for way cheaper than they sell them. And I just, I don't know. I'm not sure you could. The guts are the expensive part. But it's still not expensive. They're cheap. No. It's not. I've actually got some innards. And I think starting out, you can pay around like 30 bucks for the insides. Yeah. If you're printing the outside and put it together. I have the PLA stuff like crazy in my house.

[00:43:06] And so if it's 30 bucks for the innards, then it's zero bucks for the container. I mean, if you don't count, you know, antenna upgrade, then 30 bucks is better than when I paid for my first Little Lily Go's. They were like 70 bucks each or something like that when I got them. But that was ways back. Oh, man. We can't keep Rick on. No. I, you know what?

[00:43:29] I think from my understanding, when I was looking at the GPS, this whole part of the state was going to be hit by a storm at some point. So who knows? Maybe that's what it is. Yeah. You got some weather, Rick. Is that what it is up there? No, I need to get some satellite internet is what I need to get. Well, yeah. Yeah. I've got the Starlink. It's definitely an improvement.

[00:43:59] Yeah. I've got a, I've got a, I get, I get a, a microwave dish that goes 13 and a half miles to a tower. And that tower then has a, then that tower goes to the ISP. So I'm about as far out as I can possibly be. And, um, literally it's pointing at a mountain. So it's, but it's the only thing that we could have here, uh, before Starlink existed. So I've been thinking about it and seriously thinking.

[00:44:28] Well, I'll tell you what, your signal is not bad. You know what I mean? You're going in and out, but like your, your actual picture itself and your audio when you're on is clear. It's very clear. Yes. When I had Paul on the other day, he was on vacation. I don't really want to say where, but coastal and, uh, his internet went, went south quick and it was really bad. But that was, uh, yeah, that was an interesting one. He's a great guy, man. That's, that's a guy I talked to years ago at his booth.

[00:44:57] And I didn't realize that was the same guy until we started yapping together last week. But his, his whole, yeah, that, that connection between politics and prepping, I think is one that all preppers need to wrap their head around again. You know what I mean? And realize like you, you can carve the politics out of prepping if you want, but it's gonna, it's gonna come back to haunt you. It's not something you can do without.

[00:45:23] If you're, if you are involved in politics or if you, you know, if you're paying attention and you're getting active in it, um, the way I look at it is hopefully it will keep us from having a civil war. Um, so that's why I got involved, you know? Yeah. That's definitely one way to look at it for sure. But it's, yeah, that was talking to him really kind of reinvigorated that in me because I, I was having, you know, I feel like it ebbs and flows with us all as preppers.

[00:45:53] You have that like radical independence sort of, you know, stretch in your life where you're like, I don't want to deal with anything with these politicians are all corrupt losers. I hate them all. And then you realize like, typically when, when laws start getting written close to home, you realize like, Oh shit. But you've got to pay attention. Like, I understand. Don't hang on every word, but you do have to pay attention to it on, on some scope or level because it is going to affect you either directly or indirectly.

[00:46:21] And people will want to say, well, you know, I don't worry about that because if it's going to happen, it's going to happen. Well, I'd like to make sure I'm not going to worry about it, but I'm going to make sure I'm taking care of. So when it does happen, it's one less thing that I'm going to be panicked for. Yeah, that's exactly right. You know, Sam, remember Sam Biggers? Yeah. Sam, Sam always resonates in my head when people get sort of like over overtly self-reliant on you, you know, especially if they're not living that way yet.

[00:46:51] And they give you the whole, like, I'm going to be like ungovernable and all that kind of stuff. Because I always remembered her because she was so straight to the point with everything. And I always remember no one is ever going to be self-sufficient in the modern world. And it was so weird because she's the one that I would talk to and be like, if anybody's pulling it off, they have their own gas station. She's about as close to the mark as you can get. And her saying that was a real big eye opener for me.

[00:47:19] You know, it was like, OK, well, then we got it. We got to at least stay tethered to this political agenda for some for some things. You know what I mean? And that's the reality of it. I mean, that's the harsh reality of it because it does suck and they are horrible. But if gas goes to ten dollars, there ain't anybody probably or very few people who wouldn't feel that. You know what I mean?

[00:47:45] No matter what you're doing and how you're producing food, because, you know, got to have that gas hole for a lot of inputs and to get off of your homestead to go get the things that you need and come back and so on. Right. Because not, you know, there are people who live out very remote and to even have to go into town. I doubt you want to bicycle pedal all the way up a mountain or wherever. I don't care how green you are. Right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. No. Yeah. It's one of those things.

[00:48:14] It's we're almost down to the two hour mark. Do we lose Rick again or is he just watching? It looks frozen on my. Yeah, I thought. Oh, there we go. OK. Well, it was worth a shot. We can hold it down. No problem. We can hold it down. What do you got on the class list over there? I see a eyeball in the. Are you still looking at the class list? No, I was. But I was also popping into element just to let them know that we're live. I appreciate that. Thank you.

[00:48:45] Yeah. The real element, the real element. I'm actually getting kicked out of element right now. I need to get my act together. I have it set up on my phone so I can. That's why it's like I have my phone set up here so I can go on and quickly pull up information if I need to without having to pull off any move any of my screens. I need about an hour to get my element in order because it's I'm at the Gestapo checkpoint

[00:49:13] with element right now and I I've typed my catchphrase in and my passphrase and all that kind of stuff and it's still giving me issues. It doesn't like it gives me access. I can get into it, but it's always a problem. It's always like a couple of windows. I got to get scan the QR code forever to realize I could add signal and sessions to my laptop. But I don't have an element on this laptop. I have an old laptop on the desktop is nice. That's definitely nice.

[00:49:42] Yeah, it goes, man. The unsung hero is lucky. Lucky is he doesn't stop. I mean, that guy is a news network. Like I'll go away from element for a few days and I'll come back and see lucky in politics and business and all that kind of stuff in the element. He just every day between him and chin. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, chin, chin, man. Chin some days will have you loading magazines. That's chin.

[00:50:12] Chin scares the shit out of you. Oh my God, yes. Because sometimes they'll put like the first article in the morning and I'm like, I woke up at 530 and ding at six o'clock. I'm like, really? And this early I'm reading it and other times I'm like, I can't watch it just yet. Let me at least get my tea down. Chin will hit you, man. He don't care what hour he's up. He'll hit you with one of those ones. You're like, oh God, it's on. I got to wake up and get the coffee maker on. It's crazy. Yeah.

[00:50:39] I can't wait to see chin up there doing his thing, man. That's going to be so cool. Because the first time I met chin. Go ahead. Oh, I was just going to ask. Is the same speaker for de-googling phones going to be there? I can't remember what specifically his class is called, though. Oh, yeah. Sean Patrick Tario is going to be there. Yeah. He's going to. Yeah. Well, yeah. He's going to be. He's going to do ghost phones and ghost computers. And he's also going to do artificial intelligence. Yeah.

[00:51:09] Yeah. I know more as things have been going on. I've really been looking into. If I'm going to have a phone for like the smart stuff, fine. But I would kind of like to have my own personal phone separate from the entire network of Google. Yeah. He's going to be doing demos, he said, too. Yeah. At his booth. So that's what you want to see. It really is not expensive.

[00:51:33] It's a little bit of a learning curve to go away from the apps that you're used to for all these years. But it works. Right. No, I've heard good things. I know you've mentioned it before on a class. Oh, so a listener does want to know when will a class list be finalized? Isn't it usually posted like a week before? About two weeks before. Two weeks.

[00:52:03] So the classes are all there. The schedule is the only thing that is going to be two weeks before because we have to kind of see what we've got. After we're finished selling tickets, you know, we know what we have for people. And then we're kind of figuring out what rooms are going to be in and what classrooms are going to be in, what tents are going to be in. So that stuff is still kind of fluid. But the classes themselves are pretty much locked. Are listed on the website, right? Yeah. They're all listed on the website.

[00:52:32] The classes and the detailed class descriptions are all on the website. There they are. It's pretty cool. It'll say. I like that. Boycott big tech. Mark 37. Yeah. Yeah, they were cool guys, man. They were like one of the first people to really like pick on me about my cell phone. It was. Sean was relentless for a little while. But, you know, the cell phone is one of those things, right?

[00:52:58] You're so like inextricably tied to everything it does for you that it is kind of scary. But also Chin has been weaning me off too in the back channel. He sends me new apps that he uses. Like I use this app. I use this app. Everything I send you is on a ghost phone. You could do it. You could do it, buddy. I think it helps me slowly adjust to not being because we've all gotten where we've gotten codependent on it is living out in an area where my cell provider is just about zilch without satellite.

[00:53:28] So it's like, okay, I'm good. I don't I don't need it. And anyways, when I'm out checking the chickens or whatever I'm doing, I don't need to have my phone on me anyways, unless there's an emergency. So it stays in my pocket. So it's like I shouldn't be sitting there scrolling through. The only time I have it connected to me or on is if I'm listening to an audio book while I'm cleaning out the chicken area.

[00:53:54] That is what's surprising about the phones that I've noticed is that once you settle into the idea that you don't need it on you, it becomes real easy to leave it. It's not as you know what I mean? It's like you feel like it's tethered to you. And then once you start leaving it behind for a little while, you start going like, oh, you know what I mean? Like, I don't even really.

[00:54:16] Well, I keep it in my pocket because God forbid if I get bit by something or something happens, I need to make sure I can call out to help the first person closest to me. Valid. Valid. Valid. That said, though, I remember, and this is like one of those things you like you say and you feel old. But I remember going to the Brandywine River at like six in the morning alone, fishing pole alone, parking on the road and going fishing till three o'clock in the afternoon.

[00:54:47] You know what I mean? And nobody even would think anything of it. My family, my girlfriend, now wife, nobody would even think anything of it. Jimmy's fishing today. He'll be you know what I mean? He'll be gone for hours. And even me, I was never like. That was the difference of the times, though, is we could disappear for a day and just nobody questioned it. Now, if I don't respond as soon as my mother calls the phone, I'm getting three texts back to back thinking that I'm dead. And it's just because they have it.

[00:55:16] It's just because it's here and you're like, well, I should hear from somebody. I got this phone. You know what I mean? Like somebody should call me on it. Yeah, but those guys, those guys are valuable to at least have a conversation with if you're at prepper camp. You should at the very least go to the mark 37 and yes. And let them bully you for five minutes, 10 minutes. And if you could stand up to the bullying, then you're then you're good. But yeah, they know their stuff. That's that's enough. Yes. It's so well rounded now, man. I don't.

[00:55:44] It's hard for me to remember like the class lineup back in 2019. But it just seems like prepper camp lately hits so much stuff. It hits so many different like high notes and varieties of topics. When the AI came in, it was that like two years ago, the drones came in. Things started coming in tech technologically that really changed things, too. And it was like, oh, this is just, you know, there's nothing like it. I've I've got a question.

[00:56:13] So, Rick, if say, you know, newcomers come in, what are like three of the top classes you think someone should take for the very first time or would recommend? Oh, man, that's a good one. That's a good one. Rick should say secret garden of survival right off the top. Maybe we have to make. We might. I think Rick's conked out on us. I think he froze. Yeah, he's back. There he is. You go. All right. Let me remember. We got two of them. I got two of them. Let me. There you go.

[00:56:44] Did you hear the question or no? I did not hear the question. Jordan hit you with a really good one. I heard her say, I have a question. And then. Yeah. So my question is, are there like three top classes you would recommend for any brand newcomers as far as should recommend that they would take? You know, I don't. You need you need to take some. If they're absolute newcomers, I would go to Jane's class for sure.

[00:57:14] Oh, the reality is a homesteading because she's going to that is, you know, an eye opening thing. But she makes it fun. I mean, it is fun. I don't know. I'm I'm a big proponent of growing your own food because that's where it is these days. If you're not growing your own food, you're going to die. Pretty simple. You know, you can't eat the stuff that they're feeding us.

[00:57:38] So I teach how to grow a camouflage food forest and grows everything that that I consume. And well, we consume as people and also our our animals. So it feeds us on less than half an acre. So, again, Christine recommends the secret garden class. Thanks, Christine. So I don't know. It is.

[00:58:04] I think this is the best group of classes, highest quality and highest quality instructors that we have had to date. It's just really good stuff. It's and I try to get classes that are topical for the time that we are living in right now. So there's a lot of there's a lot of basic classes like the gardening class and canning classes and those kind of things.

[00:58:32] But then there's stuff that's hey, you know, we might need it. We might we might might need to know how to do guerrilla warfare in suburban America because look what's happening. So those are the kind of things that that, you know, maybe we didn't think about five years ago, but now. Could be important. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's an epic lineup.

[00:59:00] Yeah, it's great classes, but even best is the the awards night. Oh, yeah. Awards night is where it's at. Always the best. It's always a party. Hey, Firewolf. That's and it's having it Saturday night is crucial. You know what I mean? It's such a good night to have it because it really does feel like the I don't know what's a good way to look at. It just feels like you spend a day like Friday.

[00:59:27] You spend the day saying hi and meeting people at your booth and from the speaker's standpoint, you know, and do it. You get your first round of classes done. Then you go into Saturday, knock another day out. And then that night it feels like, oh, now it's camp. Like the last couple of days, it was a prepper event and I was there and I was selling and doing and teaching. And then like now now it's like summer camp. Like we got music on. We got fun. Everybody's under the big tent. We got events and prizes.

[00:59:57] It feels different Saturday night, you know, to me anyway. Well, and I think what goes on is the more people that they us who are repeat visitors is we come a little bit earlier every right. We come earlier every time. So I'm always out usually by a Wednesday evening setting up so I can have a whole day just to help set up and then be able to harass poor Rick and Miss Jane and everybody else who is coming in.

[01:00:23] And it's just I would never if I don't have to run in by the by my coattails, I would love to already be set there and setting up and just enjoying just enjoying the view and the atmosphere and the people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no doubt about well. That's the thing about where it's at. That's the other thing. You know, I've done prepper shows in in stuffy, you know, convention centers. And it's just like, I don't know.

[01:00:50] It's out in the open in the elements with a beautiful background and beautiful fresh air. And I wouldn't want it any other way. Oh, yeah. There's no. Yeah. And then, of course, on top of all that, you get people like I think it was the canning diva, but you get people like her who are talking about like, oh, it's been years since I've gone camping. You know what I mean? And then you as a prepper, you get to go out and see what that's all about.

[01:01:18] Like, what is my prepping my camping game really like? What am I going to do in the dark? What am I going to do? You know, what are these things that maybe, you know, because you could be a prepper for years and never go camping. It's not like it's a prerequisite. Right. You can never put that stuff to a test. A lot of people don't. I will. Salvage asked if I will be bringing the kids. I will have the youngest in tow.

[01:01:41] I am trying to work on the 16, well, soon to be 16 year old because it would be right in his wheelhouse. Absolutely right in his wheelhouse. So I had to convince him, though, it wouldn't be a matter of him having to take all the classes I have that literally I could trust him being out on his own because it's like one of the safest places. There are other kids. More and more younger folks are coming and more children are involved. I love it.

[01:02:08] I would be I would love to have all my kids there. I've never had a year prepper camp where I didn't regret bringing the kids. It happens every year. Every year, especially like when I'm going over to the matter of facts campsites and there's kids playing over there on that little sliding swing thing. It's like the rappel thing.

[01:02:33] Every time I walk by there, I'm like, I'm going to brought the kid, you know, but there were times like prepper camp started out as a as a me thing. Honestly, is the selfish me thing I got to do for myself as a prepper without my kids. And now as time's going on, I'm like, man, I would love if the kids could be here. Yeah, maybe a day trip. That might be the way to go. I'm going to have to note that. Knock out a date. The family come down for a day.

[01:03:00] Have fun because then they're going to be like, oh, we're going to get away so you can enjoy it. Yeah. Yeah. That they go and do what they want to do. And I'm already doing what I want to do for sure. Yeah, that's a good way to look at it. But if you do have kids out there, folks, I mean, there's usually like a little Lord of the Flies sort of situation that happens around camp. Oh, don't tell them. Usually like a group of kids running around together at some point or another. Unless Rick grabs him on parking duty. Like Sarah. Yeah. That'll work.

[01:03:31] Too much standing around. No, that's. Yeah. It is a good environment for kids, though. I think the lake's real safe. They got headed off area where you can swim and that kind of stuff. But they got life vest there, too, with the kayak and everything else. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, they'd have to work real hard to get out of Orchard Lake campground. I don't think it'd be worth the effort. You know, way more trouble to get into close by when everybody's watching.

[01:03:59] But we have security there, too, that we don't talk about. That's true. Well, there you go. I didn't even know that. I mean, there's nobody with security on their person that you can see. So that's the best kind. Yeah. We get some ex-special forces guys that are out there on patrol. And they're just keeping an eye on stuff. Now I'm going to be insecure if I, like, sneak into the woods for a pee.

[01:04:29] I don't know if that would be so. As long as you don't take a kid with you. Somebody's got me on night vision goggles and they're laughing. Yeah. So, look, we got 61 people over there on X watching right now. At least a handful of folks. So it's 48 on X and 13 on YouTube. Oh, is that what it is? Oh, okay.

[01:04:57] I never knew what that number up there was. Well, anyhow, at least a handful of you need to go to PrepperCamp.com. We've got an hour and 47 minutes left before ticket prices go up. So go visit the website, PrepperCamp.com. You get to see all the speakers and you get to buy your tickets there. So go check it out. Don't miss out. Because the biggest problem for you guys who listen to PBN is you got to listen to us. You got to listen to us on the lead up.

[01:05:26] You got to listen to us as it's going on. You got to listen to us when we come back. Yeah, because I usually post stuff while I'm there. Just like last year, I was doing little snippets and recordings until I could get enough signal to be able to post it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm telling you. Yeah, it's got to be a rough ride because we stay on it for about a month straight talking about the fun and all that and things that we're doing.

[01:05:51] And then, of course, gushing about it when we get back because everybody always comes back from PrepperCamp with a big to-do list. I got to get this right. I got to do that. I got to fix this. And, you know, all these new prepping things that we want to do. Yeah, I always come back with notes.

[01:06:08] I know you're going to have, like, full classes, but any ideas or comments on who some of the vendors are so we can have an idea and have our ready for the market? I think he might have timed out again. Yeah. What are you bringing, Jay Ferg? What are you bringing? I, so I actually am going to have my dump pouches.

[01:06:33] I am going to have my collapsible duffel bags or shopping bags that you can open and carry. And then I have my reversible bags. I actually, with the move and everything, I really need to get a bunch of wool spun so I can actually sell some fiber if people are interested. Because I've had people who are interested in buying the fiber versus the finished items. That makes sense. But I do want to make a few good wool hats and a few other items. Yeah, that makes sense.

[01:07:03] I'm trying to pull up our rumble so I can take a sneak peek in there. Because I've noticed this doesn't actually tell us the number of viewers for rumble. Is it working? Because I can bring it up real quick if not. I think my service has just been a little finicky. So, now that I have you back. No, I have to go out and get the goats to get off the internet so they won't keep kicking me off.

[01:07:32] The goats are kicking the internet. Oh, I like it. Man, you can't trust those goats. Yeah, the girls all have their own cell phones. You know, they're at that age. Dad's live again. Let's mess with him. Is there any sneak peek idea of some of the vendors? What about the vendors? Like who some of the vendors are who are coming in so we can get a little idea and having our money ready for them?

[01:08:01] If you get a big chunk of change, there's Mammoth Overland, which is like a tank. Oh, yeah. Oh, that thing was so cool. I loved that thing. And the thing is, the guy started an aviation company, too. So, I mean, that's where he comes from. And he had all the tooling and stuff and everything like that. So, yeah, that thing is like it's a tank. You just can't stop it. I was afraid it was going to float away.

[01:08:29] I saw it right down there by the that was the yellow thing right down there by the lake last year. It had seals, though, for to keep it keep it dry. Yeah, it was cool. It was definitely cool. I can't get mine to pull up. You're going to have to. Oh, I'll check it out. Pull it up and tell me. Okay. Firewolf. Firewolf. I think Firewolf might have been knocking your dump bags a little bit. I'm not sure. I don't think he understands how cool they are. Oh, no. It's not a knitted one. Hold on. I actually I have one I can get. Let me. Yeah, go grab it.

[01:08:59] It's fine. Let me change. He's probably. Yeah, I know. But I'm just. But you should see them because they are sweet. They are. How do I turn off my camera for a second? Oh, just go. I'll take you off. Just take it. Yeah. Well, that'll work. You can do that. That's fine. Yeah, Firewolf. They're sweet, man. They I got one of those special top tier foraging bags from J. Fergie. Those things are awesome, too. You got to get your hands on one of those.

[01:09:29] How the hell? Here we go. OK, now we can see what's going on over in the Rumble world. Nothing. That's what's going on over at Rumble. OK, everybody at YouTube and X. OK, I can't figure out who's on what platform when early risers on Rumble. That's what I know. Early risers on Rumble and I guess the late nighters on X and YouTube fighting with everybody leaving nasty comments.

[01:09:57] Is that what you guys are doing on late night here? Yeah, it's not bad. Pouches. Yeah, there we go. Oh, get a little closer. It went blurry. Oh, yeah. There it is. Yeah, that thing's sweet, man. And right on the belt. Put it on your belt, which this one's one of the earlier ones before I finished them up better. So I have better snaps on them.

[01:10:24] So, yeah, it literally opens and is a dump pouch with a sister snap. So you can close it in case it's too full. I love them. They're sweet. It's a great idea. Yeah, that that'll be a good one. Dave Jones always comes to retail row with like the survival gear galore. He always comes with a good a good bunch of stuff. I guess he's going to be coming with goat soap and that sort of stuff this year, too.

[01:10:53] Yeah, probably so. Yeah. He said he's bringing the warden. Yeah, the warden should be there. We'll see. It's always it's always a shake up. We never know. Yes, I hope it's the Romanian Hot Pockets this time again. Those were so stupid. Oh, my God. Those things are unbelievable. Yeah. Everything Maria does is unbelievable. It's crazy. It's absolutely crazy to go to the Jones homestead. It's insane. Things start flying at you. Weird liquors. You don't even know what it is. You're like, huh?

[01:11:24] It's a blast. And then it's literally a blast because his neighbor has a gun range next door. Did we lose you again? You got to you got to kick the girls off the Internet. Yeah, they're burning up the Internet over there at the Austin homestead, aren't they? Yeah. So probably be a gold and silver guy there. Right. Who else is there? I think he's frozen. Oh, there he is. I'm just guessing at this point.

[01:11:54] Yeah. How about the the water pen girl? What was her name? She going to be there? Hydro. Oh, no. What's? No. You're a gal. I actually I actually am one of her affiliates. I need to see it. See if I can set up because Jeff was doing it when she couldn't make it. So I've got to reach out to her. The roving blue was a cool product. That was a really cool. I'd never seen that until. Yeah, I have. I have an ozone pen. I like it.

[01:12:24] They're cool. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. The bee. The bee people will be there. I think. Right. Oh, with the wax and the soaps and candles. I love them beeswax candles. What is it about the beeswax candles? I like them. Because everything else is soy. Is that what it is? What you don't realize.

[01:12:51] A lot of the other candles that you get that are soy and et cetera. Let off particles and will leave a film across everything in your house. Wax it from my understanding burns clean and doesn't emit all of those particles. There's just something about it when the wheat beeswax candles burn and the smell that it gives off. It just. I don't know. I like it, but I feel like it burns cleaner. Yeah, it could be that. It could very well be that.

[01:13:21] And then they sell those ones. I've never bought one of these. I don't know if you have one of these. They sell those big ass ones that are like they'll burn for like days. Those big, huge beeswax candles. Have you ever seen those? I've seen. I don't have any. I would love to. If anyone has them, let me know. I definitely do some barter and trade in if not purchasing it. Yeah, those things are cool. And the knife guy, I'm sure he'll be there. The knife guy is the most dangerous guy on retail row.

[01:13:51] Without a doubt. The knife guy is like, oh my God, I made some money at prepper camp. The last thing I can do is go down and see all those sweet knives for $300. I'll be tempted to buy one. Oh, and the Fortress K9. Fortress K9. I'll be selling those bomb collars. Yes, I was actually about to say the same thing. Fortress K9's been all. And they always have like hoodies and shirts too. Yep. Yep. I bought Lady Liberty a shirt. Will last two years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Those things, man.

[01:14:21] Those collars they sell. They're expensive, but they're about the coolest collar I think I've ever seen to put on a dog. I thought this was my sun oven. I had an affiliate link for the sun oven that I give out to PBN audience and it wasn't working. I even emailed him to see what was up. I haven't heard back from him yet. Yeah. Fire Wolf said knit it would still be funny.

[01:14:49] Dude, I've actually crocheted foraging bags and they do great. Oh, we were talking about them when you were gone, actually. I was telling them I have a limited edition J Fergie foraging bag. And yeah, that thing. I should have the collapsible forge design ready. Laugh out loud. So Fire Wolf, just come to camp this year. Yeah. Right? Why not? Buy a ticket. Come on. You would, dude. You wouldn't want to leave.

[01:15:23] No, I understand you. Oh, there we go. People have all these skill sets. And yes, I think you would be great. You should just come. No. Liar. I'm arguing with a toddler. Too bad. You would have a ball, man. You could sleep behind my tent. You could be help me out with coffee. And you'd be awesome. Then you just run around like a man. I love it when I'm stuck right over there by your booth. Because I like that then I can help with coffee and everything else. Oh, the coffee first thing, man.

[01:15:52] Yeah, that's the deal. I love it. It's the best. What I love the most is when the ladies come and they've got the pad and the coffee and the pen. And it's like, you know, $7.50. And they're like, I need a coffee. I'm getting ready to go in. And they're ready, man. They are ready. And some of those women that I seen last time I was there, not last year, year before, but some of those women that I seen with the pen and the pad and the coffee,

[01:16:20] those same women came in 2019. Was it 2019? 2020? When we had the rain. And they were there with the slicker and the pen and the pad. They didn't care, man. They were there to learn. Yeah, it was cool. That was really cool. I can definitely say, Rick, I love what you've put together. Because over the years, having, you know, the first year I was teaching. And then three years later, someone walked up.

[01:16:49] Do you remember this kid? And I look. And it was the same young man who had taken my class. But no longer the same young man. He was like two feet taller than me. Yes. I was like, oh, my God. It's been two years. It's just crazy. Yeah. Yeah, that happened. That happened to my son. You know, he's tall as I am. It's crazy. It is crazy. Well, yours is probably taller than you now, right, Jayford? Your oldest? What was that?

[01:17:18] I said your oldest is probably taller than you now, right? Oh, God. He's like 5'11". I'm 5'2". Yeah, he's looking down on Mama. Yeah, but I'm still Southern as all get out. Mama brought you in. Mama will take you out. Hey, you need that. He needs that, you know, for sure. Sure, definitely. Yeah. There's no doubt about it. So, where are we at? 1 hour 30.

[01:17:46] 1 hour 30 left on the ticket sales. Let's get in there. PrepperCamp.com. Get your tickets, folks. We got some cool food stuff that's going to be down on the field. Oh, yeah? Remember Shanae? She's got, you know, kind of the good healthy food stuff. So, she's doing a smoothie. She's got a trailer. So, she's doing smoothies and she's doing milkshakes and that kind of stuff.

[01:18:15] And then, on the other end, we've got some really good carny fried foods. Um, like, uh, like funnel cakes and that kind of stuff, too. So, I'm looking forward to seeing that. Yeah. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. I never feel like, you guys definitely dialed in the food over the last three, four years, something like that. Yeah. I felt like it's definitely been a, it's definitely been a good time at lunch.

[01:18:44] That one truck that comes every year, not the coffee one, not the coffee folks over there last year. Yeah, that's them. They are awesome. But then there was a sandwich joint, too, that did a really good job. I got a Reuben from them one year. That was great. I was surprised. I know one year I came, there was a great breakfast truck. Um, I haven't seen him since. I never really do breakfast that much at Prepper Camp. Weirdly enough.

[01:19:12] I, yeah, which is funny is I'm not a breakfast eater, but at, at camp, that is the first thing I'm up at like 6 a.m. with the, uh, camp top on and I'm frying bacon or cooking eggs. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you make them potatoes, too, in the morning. Those things are outrageous. Oh, yeah. I love making potatoes. Yeah, them skillet potatoes. Oh, man.

[01:19:36] So the skillet potatoes are a supper meal that I do with the sausage and everything. And then I try to feed everyone over there. Right. Yeah. Yeah, that was good, man. That was definitely a good one. And the camp, so the camp, uh, what's going down on that, uh, that top level camps? Jasmine Camp's up there now? Where the Matter of Facts guys used to camp? Or will camp? Or had camped in the past? Didn't she book a campsite up there?

[01:20:06] Oh, Jasmine? I don't know. Yeah. I'm not sure. Oh, okay. I didn't know if that was the happening place last year or not. I guess you guys were all kind of huddled. No, EJ, EJ was with us, Ryan and, um, Doug. Oh, okay. I gotcha. We all converged into the same little area. Um, because I think Jasmine had originally actually, they had like an Airbnb or something and then they had came up and then couldn't get back down. Oh, that's right. That's right.

[01:20:36] She was in, yeah. Yeah. She was staying, I think in the Hendersonville area or something, something like that. And she, so the commute became impossible going back. So, yeah. Yeah. We had, we had an awful lot of people underneath the canopy in the lodge. I seen a video of, I think it was that Friday night. Was that the night, Friday night when it started to really come in? Not even Thursday. Is that what it was? It was Thursday.

[01:21:05] But, uh, everybody was up under there. Doug Hogan had all of his clothes hanging up on, on, on lines in the, in the canopy under the lodge. Yeah, he was trying to. Because he said it only had, he brought two pairs of clothes. So. Oh, man. Yeah. And he, and he roughed it in a hammock through the hurricane. And yeah. And I had my cooktop out just, you know, everybody had contributed a bunch of stuff. So I had bacons and eggs and I'm just like, people eat. Here, eat, eat, eat. You guys did stone soup? No, I did. I cooked breakfast though.

[01:21:35] I had bacon, eggs. I had orange juice. I was telling people to eat just because it's like being cold and wet. Oh, yeah. And hungry is miserable, but you're a little less miserable if you have bacon and eggs on your stomach. So. Bacon and eggs is good for morale. Yeah. Yeah. No doubt about it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking forward to it, man. It's going to be a great year. The one thing nobody ever talks about is fishing at Prepper Camp. It's the most under, it's the most, it's the dark horse of the whole camp is that lake

[01:22:04] back there behind us. And there's two great ponds. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean. What is going on, man? That little ponds. Yeah. I don't know what's going on with you. You look like you're in the ring. Like you watch the ring VHS tape. I don't know what's going on either. Yeah. So what else? What are we leaving out? What are we forgetting? The big PBN podcast. That's always a blast. I always had like a dream that we would do the big PBN podcast to an audience. That would be fun at Prepper Camp. You know what I mean?

[01:22:33] To have to have a bunch of people there under one of the tents. That's always a good one, though. Tinfoil hat competition. Oh, duh. Yeah. What am I thinking? The tinfoil hat competition. I forget it. It never forgets me. That's the deal with tinfoil hat. You know that? Right. What was it? Last year, we still had someone walk up with the tinfoil hat. It's the same girl who's been doing it so many years in a row. It's like, I love the dedication. Oh, yeah. Our attendees. Yeah.

[01:23:01] You guys held it down for me last year. I appreciate that. I did. That was the last thing I expected somebody to show up with. It's a tinfoil hat in that situation. But I think that says a lot. You know, we saw it in that year with the heavy rains and you guys saw it last year. Some people are going to make it no matter what happens. You know? So Friday night, we're working with PrepperNet to do a mag group type thing.

[01:23:30] And we're going to have people be able to break up into their regions and that sort of stuff. So they can meet like-minded people. Oh, man. Let's try that out. Anybody can come to it. So you can see if, hey, I didn't know you were in my area. So it's a chance for people to commiserate and meet up with some other folks that are like-minded in their region. That's a good idea. That's pretty cool. That's definitely a good idea.

[01:24:00] Walk away with some contacts. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. The mags are a thing. Dog demos. Fortress K9. Fortress K9, yeah. Yeah, they're always amazing. I'm training my Fortress K9 dog to do bite work and that sort of stuff. She's great. And she's also my all-around all-purpose guardian livestock dog. She's got a tall task ahead of her, man. You guys got a lot of stuff to guard. Yeah.

[01:24:30] Yeah, she does. Well, I got two other dogs that guard the other side of the farm. Oh, okay. Okay. But she does the important one. She does the goats. So, we go out every afternoon to, I take the girls out to lunch in the woods and they get to browse. So, she's circling them the whole time, checking stuff out, smelling for coyotes, you know, just keeping everybody kind of in line.

[01:24:58] And so, yeah, she's great. But I know Joel from Fortress K9 has said many a time, I got to get you. You're going to have to wear that bite suit for our demonstration. Oh, my goodness. I got too much to do at noon. I can't be doing that. Yikes. Yeah. Yeah, because I feel like you're nonstop. Like, do you ever actually get a break? Not really. Not really.

[01:25:26] I was telling Jane today, it's like my favorite part of prepper camp is when it's over. You get a brief respite and then you wake up the next morning and get started on 2026. Wake up the next morning and start, you know, unpacking goods, unpacking stuff, testing equipment, make sure it still works when it arrives home. And, you know, then inventorying everything and putting it away. That's at least a two week process, that process itself.

[01:25:54] So there's a lot of moving parts. Yeah. Yeah. If anybody wants to put on a prepper camp, man, just have a conversation with Rick. You might be deterred. I don't know. It's definitely a tall order for sure. But you got a good staff. We put in a lot of work. Yeah. You got a good crew down there helping you out every year. I see them. I see them on them set up images. Chin down there and the rest of the crew setting up tents early.

[01:26:25] Yeah, man. It's. We got to we got to get a succession plan in order, probably. Right. We are. I mean, we are preppers. So we definitely need some kind of succession plan. Savage. Savage Valley asks the longest distance anyone's ever traveled to prepper camp. I guess Germany, right? Oh, you're right. Australia. Yeah. It was Germany until Erin showed up. Is Erin? Did I get that?

[01:26:55] No. It's her name. Ellen. Ellen. That's it. I'm sorry, Ellen. I apologize. Yeah. She won't be able to make it this year. No, she's not coming this year from Australia. Yeah. Yeah. But she's usually there. I want to say about every other year is usually when she makes it in. Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing. Because because you've had people come from all over. There was someone else to Italy, right? Or the UK. I know there was a guy from Germany. Yeah.

[01:27:25] Yeah. We've had people. Germany's bananas. Yeah. That's wild. It doesn't surprise me much. Honestly, with having known individuals who were military and then finding out, oh, their sister who was in Germany or knew someone whose sister-in-law was, sorry, their sister-in-law is from Germany who was actually a fan of Sarah's books. So it's like, oh, I happen to know that person. That's wild. Well, you got to think, right? Imagine you woke up tomorrow and you were in Europe.

[01:27:55] Like, you'd have a to-do list. And on that to-do list would be prepping for sure. You know, you'd be like, oh, I got to get prepared. Things are not looking good here in the motherland. I think preparedness should be key anywhere, but especially overseas, because they don't have, they have more limitations to certain things than anything else. Did they camp then or hotel it? She hung with Sarah, right? Didn't she sleep with Sarah's family? Yes. Yes.

[01:28:25] She camps over there with Sarah. What is going on with my camera? I don't know. You're getting real blurry, like, for some reason. Is it the hand? Maybe? No. I thought the hand was helping and now it's like, it's not doing anything. I don't. Could it be the brightness on your computer? Sometimes you could turn the brightness up on your screen and it makes your face brighter. And Mike could do away with that. Mine was way down. Whoa.

[01:28:52] Yeah, StreamYard, there's a secret in StreamYard. It's that the whole thing is white, so you can actually use it as a light if you turn your screen up a little bit. Big. Say it again. Man, you were up. Everybody's breaking up on me now. Rick is back. Jay Ferg, are you with us?

[01:29:23] Yeah. We are testing the capabilities of, well, this is not really that long of a stream. One hour, 30 minutes. We've done much longer. I think we did four and a half, five hours election night, right? Something like that. Yeah, that's the truth, Larry. It would be probably impossible to pull Prepper Camp off without all that help. It's one of those things. Yeah. It's definitely a joint effort.

[01:29:52] No doubt about it. Yeah. We couldn't do it without volunteers. If you had to think about what a ticket would cost if I had to hire people to do all the things that need to be done, it would be triple or quadruple what the price is right now, easily, just to pay people. Oh, yeah.

[01:30:19] I mean, the amount that is charged for other events in comparison is extreme, in my opinion. Just in comparison. I'll tell you what is one way to look at it that I thought made a lot of sense this year. I started thinking about tactical training. You said you got a CQB.

[01:30:44] I started thinking about maybe even like your training, Jordan, and basic survival courses that you would take maybe with yourself or with a family member or with your whole family. And when you start to tally up what those things cost compared to a Prepper Camp ticket, I mean, that's where the value really starts to show because you're still going to pay logic in most cases, right?

[01:31:11] You probably don't have a survival school like a couple blocks down the road. So you're probably still going to have to pay lodging. And then you're going to go out there and spend... I mean, I don't know many survival courses that are under $200. No, I don't know any that are. Right. So when you look at it from that standpoint, you think... Because there are... It's not all just speaking. It's hands-on stuff, some of it.

[01:31:37] You know, you can go do hands-on training and all that kind of stuff for the... For right now, if you get your tickets tonight, it'll be $75. That's crazy talk. $75 three days. 60 classes every single day. And... I think even when they hit the highest point, it's still quite reasonable. Most of them, I think, are $275 and up for most places for their tickets.

[01:32:07] I mean, a three-day? Yeah. And if you're worried about saving, it pays for itself. But in honesty, too, the soonest you buy the tickets, the best. Yeah. Definitely. Waiting is only going to cost you more. In many ways, too. You know, because then you've got to... Oh, where are we going to camp? What if there's no more campsites? Now we've got to get a... And because campsites are limited. And they're subject to having a ticket, too. Yeah. Because you can't just...

[01:32:37] Because there was issues in the past or years before where people were renting camp spaces without proof of a ticket and then couldn't attend the events. And it's like... Then it costs people who had tickets to miss out on actually having spots. Yeah. They were squatting. They were squatting and then scalping. Oh, really? That's what was going on. Yeah. Oh, my. You can't get away from it. Human nature, I guess, in some cases.

[01:33:07] Well, we put a kibosh on that. So we worked with the campground. So they had to have a ticket and ticket number, valid ticket number, before they could reserve a camping site. So we got rid of that thing from happening. Because that was a huge bone of contention for a lot of people. And I had people who were buying tickets and couldn't get campsites because somebody was squatting and saving them from last year. They were renting. They were getting something. And then they decided they didn't want to come.

[01:33:37] So, um... Well, and then I've seen over the years where there's seven minutes show up, someone trying to squat on someone else's site. And it's like, that's... You're making it difficult for other people who actually paid for their site and are coming in. Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, that's the benefit of getting it all handled early. And you don't have to think about it. And you don't have to get in a position like that. Well, my first year, I showed up and camped up with you and your dad. Right, Jay Ferg?

[01:34:07] That was year one. Yep. And then year two, I was down there with Dave. I came in the back way. I couldn't find... I didn't know where the hell I was going. I got stuck in that loop, that prepper camp loop. I don't know if anybody's ever got stuck in that loop. Oh, where it comes in front of you up around the backside? Yeah. Yeah. I went around that loop a few times because it was late. It was like midnight or something when I got there. I was like, I don't know how the hell to get in here. I got in here last year. I don't remember how to get in here. You know, there's... Yeah.

[01:34:36] Thursday night, people are pulling in all hours coming from wherever they're coming from. Oh, yeah. And the campground closes at about 8 o'clock on Thursday night. But people just pull into their spot. They have to go find their spot where they are. And they get all their registration stuff handled the next day. But it's... I sleep like a baby at prepper camp. Same. Same.

[01:35:05] I think the second I lay down, I'm just... I'm out. If cars are pulling in, all that... I get the best two hours sleep I ever have. And is that just because it's not your bed or the fact of all the traffic? No. I get the best two hours of sleep because that's all I get. I go out hard, man. I do. I've got... Yeah. And no... It doesn't matter if the whiskey's involved or not.

[01:35:34] It's a... I'm right out. Yeah. I can say that. We've stayed up till well past midnight. Slept just fine. And then I'm up 6, 7... You know, 6 in the morning the next day. And I feel right as rain. Yeah. You freaked me out that first year. We went... You must have slept an hour and a half that one night. I fell asleep and woke up. You know, like a middle of the night pee. Kind of wake up. It's like 2.30, 3 in the morning or something.

[01:36:02] And I hear Jordan out there on the picnic table just having a midday conversation with her dad. 3 a.m. or something like that. I was like, shit, should I get up? Like, I'm in their campsite. I think it was 5. Was it 5? I think it was 5 a.m. Yeah. Man, it fell earlier than that. I'll tell you that one. No. Well, that's because you had... Was I a little hammered or something? Is that what it was? We were sitting around the campfire just having a few drinks. Maybe that's what it was. That could have been it.

[01:36:33] You know me. I come in there. I don't do hardly any drinking all year. And then I come to Prepper Camp and I'm like, oh, man, I better keep it in line. It could get crazy. That one year was rough. That one year was the first hangover I had in a long, long time, J-Fur. You know what? I've never had one at camp. Never? Yeah. That night I was in a mess. It was too good. It was just too damn good.

[01:37:02] Oh, no, no. I mean, I'm right there with you. The picnic table full of people. Oh, and then cactus juice. Yeah, all that. All that. And then you get into that stuff, right? You get into like the drinks of necessity on top of what you've been drinking already. Because Sarah and I have that. We have that Jägermeister tradition now. Because when she started. Go ahead. Yeah. And I make my drinks with Jäger cranberry juice and peach schnapps. Oh, man. Yeah.

[01:37:32] That's a throw up cocktail. That's what that is. No, no. It's great. It's sweet. But it's. Yeah. No, it's great. It does not make you throw up. No. Sometimes I'm sweet things. You're like, oh, this is fine. I can drink this all night. No, the Jäger really. It's good. I promise you. I have to make you one this year. Well, like three, four years ago, we were standing around the campfire and Sarah was like, we should do something together. And then we did the. Oh, yeah. She likes to drink that stuff.

[01:38:02] Great. Yeah. And that's what she did. She brought the. That's kind of how we sealed the PBN deal with Sarah Hathaway was a swig of the Jägermeister. And now every year it's. We got to do it like tradition. You know what I mean? And that's enough for me. You just sit there and shake your head and laugh at us. Oh, definitely. Definitely. You'd be like, I'm wasting my time. I need to go get an hour of sleep under my bed. Right. I could go get my two hours of sleep. Yeah.

[01:38:30] There are all those microcosms, too. Now, that's another crazy thing. Prepper camp is the after hours groups that have been coming for years and years and years. And it is like tradition. You know, they show up year over year and they're partying down there or cooking up good food and all that stuff. It's. Yeah. That's a thing now for sure. That. Yeah. We've had some big turnouts in the in the nighttime. Some of those massive the Michigan crews showing up.

[01:39:00] Michigan. Is that right? Yeah. The Michigan crews showing up. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's an experience, man. That's what it is. You know, you got to at least do it once in your life. Why not this? Yes. Come. Yeah. See, Savage. Savage Valley. Come on. Just fly in. Yeah, Breezy. You might as well come. I mean, you've been a fan of PBN for so many years. It would be a shame not to meet you in person. Oh, I've been on air with us. Yeah. Yeah. She's been hanging for many, many a year.

[01:39:31] And I'll feed you. Oh, yeah. You'll live good, man. You'll have a great time at prepper camp. And, you know, that's one thing. The camaraderie, the food, the company, the kinmanship. It's so worth it. So worth it. I doubt about it. No doubt about it. What else are we forgetting? Anything? I know. I feel like we're forgetting something. Rick, what are we forgetting? I don't know. I've been in and out so many times. I don't know. Rick's like, I don't even know what you guys said.

[01:39:59] What about, do you have anybody hammered down for a keynote? Not as of yet. No keynote yet? Okay. Anybody you're into running? Who would you like to see there? Who would I like to see there? Besides Bannon. Yeah, I'd like to see Bannon. I'm going to get Steve Bannon to show up as a surprise for Rick. Yeah. That would be something. Well, if, I don't know. You know.

[01:40:26] There's somebody named Trump that might be running for the North Carolina Senate. Oh. Oh. To replace our hack senator that has been a thorn in all of our conservative sides. So, Tom Tillis has said he's not going to run. He was actually censored by the Republican Party in North Carolina last year. Oh, wow.

[01:40:52] Because he was voting more with Biden and the Democrats than he was with. I mean, basically, he doesn't vote for his constituents. His constituents are the people giving him money. So, I think he knew he wasn't going to get reelected. So, now he can just stop with the fakery and pretending because he's not going to try to get elected. So, he can be a bigger thorn in Trump's side.

[01:41:20] Or, on the other hand, it could be that he plays nice and minds his P's and Q's because maybe the DOJ finally has some dirt on him. Hmm. That's about it. You get about two minutes on the RIC. Right. But, you know what? It's a good two minutes. Uh-oh. Breezy's checking flights. Right? That's why it's like when she asked, does she need a book? No. Just come.

[01:41:49] We'll cover you. Like, I think she can crash with us, right? Put her tent up right next to ours. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Yeah. We got you. We got you, boo-boo. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. It'd be awesome. It'd be awesome. It's always awesome. I always get people running to me and say hi. I have no idea who they are. Oh, that was like when I got to meet MK and EK in person for the first time. Oh, yeah, man.

[01:42:19] Michael Klein, dude. God, we got to get him back on. He's a trip. I love. Yeah. Yeah. And the fact that I had made them hiney hankies. I embroidered them, too. Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah, I do remember that. Yeah, I do remember that. When I gifted them hiney hankies. Yeah. That is the most Jay Ferg thing of all right there. It is. I know. Breezy, do you? Breezy, you remember that? Because, yeah. Yeah. Asheville Airport.

[01:42:49] I think the closest airport actually to fly in like that is typically, isn't it Charlotte? Oh, no. Because Ryan usually flies into Charlotte. But if you could fly into Asheville, I could just easily come pick you up. Oh, there you go. Probably going to be a more expensive ticket. But that's what I was thinking, too. To fly into Asheville versus Charlotte. Yeah, you can't fly direct from where he's coming from, from Washington State.

[01:43:20] So, yeah, it's probably going to be Charlotte. Well, I think Breezy's coming from Alberta? Yeah. Yeah. So Charlotte. Same direction, right? Right? Yeah. Same direction. She's our bug out bag and EDC, every EDC, everyday carry stuff.

[01:43:49] She does a great job. Oh, she's the winemaker. The little old winemaker, too. There's so many, man. When you talk about 60 people doing classes, there's so many. Soap making. Yeah. You know, it's crazy. Yes. Breezy, hit me up on Element. I got you, Boo Boo. There you go. There you go. The makings of a new prepper camper. Yes.

[01:44:15] You might get, I'm telling you what, though, you're in danger of having to come every year because it's one of those things. You get plugged in. It's hard to unplug. It's tough. It really is. It's an addiction. It is a little bit. It's a healthy one, too. It is. I was actually about to say that it's the one kind of addiction that you should have. Right? You get tied in. It's nice. Well, I don't know.

[01:44:45] I don't know. And we could tie it into the glasses. That's an easy one, right?

[01:45:15] Yeah. The Gallup poll says American pride slips to a new low. I find that hard to believe. American pride? The great, big, beautiful bill. Jay Ferg, what are your thoughts on that? Have you thought about that at all? Which one? The big old bill that's going to fix everything? Trump's big bill? I think it's in the Senate right now. I haven't actually looked into it. What does the bill entail?

[01:45:45] Oh, it's just one of those same old kind of thousand page, four trillion dollar bills that politicians put together. You know what I mean? I don't know. I'm sure there's plenty of things that's going to benefit. You know, it'll be four trillion for some things that are good. But there is a big AI initiative in government inside of it. There was a big. See, I think they're pushing AI too much.

[01:46:12] I mean, AI has gotten so bad that it's like everything you see is like you can't believe what you see anymore. Yeah, that's the value of us. I mean, as much AI as I see just scrolling through Instagram or X or and it's just like, what? What the hell, man? Yeah.

[01:46:31] One of these days, what I would love to do is to have us to take a prepper camp-esque event on the road. And I think it will happen. I do think it will happen because we're in you and I now and Dave Jones. There's so many of us who are close. I almost thought about it the other day, like block parties, like doing like block parties at neighborhoods. Neighborhoods where people.

[01:47:01] You mean almost like pop-up camps? For real. Yeah. Something like that. Something like that where people could come out because that's, you know, where these events shine. And I think where things in the future will shine is in seeing flesh and blood people. It's got to go that way. If the Internet gets so bogged down with fake people, AI driven people. You have to put the human element back into it.

[01:47:27] You have to have something that is tangible and physical and real just to be able to. Yeah. The most valuable thing will be, oh, there's going to be a bunch of people doing this talk and we can go see them. You know what I mean? It's not on our phone. It's not on our TV. I don't have to guess if what they're saying is fake or not or if they're fake or not. It's like they're here. And that's what camp is. It's physical. It's real. It gives you a point. But, yeah, I think you're right.

[01:47:53] People need to see that this isn't just some made up algorithm. Lord, have mercy. Algorithm that's just generated spitting out absurdities. Right. Well, it's a weird. It becomes a weird problem for new listeners to new podcasts and new viewers to new YouTube channels and things like that.

[01:48:17] But, like, our established audience, they know us and they will always know it's us and not AI. But when do we reach that, like, you know, that valley where so much content is being produced and you can't tell, like, this guy I watch and have been watching, is he real? Is he a real guy?

[01:48:40] Well, and it's funny is I've been seeing AI being an issue on a smaller scale before it became this scale is on Etsy and trying to buy patterns or even looking up crochet patterns. AI is being used so heavily to generate these images that the patterns are being sold and they don't match or aren't even a usable pattern.

[01:49:05] So it's like the scam level has already started at a very high degree that people aren't realizing these aren't actual pictures or these patterns that they're getting are useless. And you've just spent $5 to $20 on these patterns. And, yes, it may not seem like much even for a dollar pattern, but that adds up. And if you scam, you know, 10,000 people for a dollar, that's $10,000 you've just made off of false information.

[01:49:33] I'll tell you what. My earliest experience with AI's downside, it was in writing. And I was writing for a prominent company in the prepping world. I can't tell you who they are. They'll lock me up in a gulag. But a prominent company. And they were asking all the writers to see what this chat GPT was capable of and query it with things about their stuff that they sell and all that kind of stuff.

[01:50:01] And I found out that when AI, and it might be better now. I don't know. I haven't played with it like that recently. But I found out that when AI doesn't know something, it lies to get the job done. Because it was lying about this piece of equipment that it thought was a water filter and it wasn't a water filter. You know, like I queried it to say, write me, you know, 500 words about this particular product and tell me about it.

[01:50:30] And instead of saying, we're not really sure what this thing is, it just went into a whole diatribe about how it will filter your water and it will, you know, 0.9, mic 99, whatever, you know, all the different things. And I'm sitting there reading it and going like, wow, this just made this whole thing up and it's wrong. And then I couldn't stop thinking about people who are like, like in your situation, they're like, oh, create me a pattern.

[01:50:57] And the AI is like, I don't know how to do that, but I'll give you some shit that doesn't work. Well, and the fact that people are using that as a cover to be able to make money, they're using it for the scam factor. But then we're seeing AI being used in corporate industries, in the healthcare system, which bothers me more than anything that we have AI coming in to be, you know, be the ones who are transcribing orders versus a person.

[01:51:24] And have you've ever read a doctor's handwriting? I don't trust a computer to read it, let alone anyone outside of that doctor to read it. I mean, it's just one of the things where now then a lot of remote jobs are hiring people to program the AI.

[01:51:41] But then what do you do for those situations when you run into the issue of, well, what happens when that program has an error and then keeps regenerating an error versus having it? Then you have to have a person come and fix it. So it's just the whole factor of trying to remove people to save money, which is what our corporation is doing.

[01:52:04] But at the same time, you're really hindering what type of level of care these patients are going to get if it auto-populates or transcribes the order and the order's wrong. Or, I mean, the transcription is wrong from the order. Well, there's a huge section in the quote-unquote big, beautiful bill that is all about the AI in-government initiative.

[01:52:26] And I didn't think government could suck worse than it does already, but I'm kind of interested to see how bad it could get with AI. What do you think about the bill? Yeah. This big $4 trillion thing. Yeah. The thing where the states can't, they want a 10-year moratorium on any state or local laws banning AI, I think. Yeah. I think we're looking at Terminator.

[01:52:56] I really do. It feels like that. I think we're looking at Skynet and Terminator happening. So, no, I'm not for that at all. And basically, for anybody that's a content creator, they're saying that AI, in order to learn, can steal all your stuff, steal all your copyrighted material, use it, and regurgitate it back to people without having to pay for it.

[01:53:23] And, you know, I just think that's wrong. I mean, my whole life was in intellectual property from between, you know, doing television stuff and commercials and that kind of thing to getting new products and putting them on the market.

[01:53:42] So, you know, the thing that makes America different than so many other countries is that that is a piece of property that you own and you're giving up your rights to it if this bill goes through. So, I don't know. I think it could be a Supreme Court fight, too. Oh, yeah. Because there's a lot of content creators that won. Yeah. Well, states' rights and individual rights, you know. You as a content creator, you're not getting anything.

[01:54:11] And you created it. And they're trying to steal that from you, too. So, yeah, I'm adamantly against that. Yeah, it's one of those things. I mean, maybe it has its place somewhere. But outside of calculations and things like that, I just haven't really seen much out of AI that really blows me away. You know what I mean? Well, I think I'm seeing a big issue of this newest generation.

[01:54:40] You know, when we had to stay up and write an essay, we actually had to write an essay. And we had to sit there and resource it and everything else. And now seeing this younger generation can't figure out how we set up and did essays without ChatGPT. And it's like, what? You're cutting corners. So, you know, let's make more sheeple. Let's make more sheeple. Exactly. It's dumbing down a mass society so they follow the lead. Yeah.

[01:55:09] I mean, that's the reality of kids, though. Like, you almost, I mean, you can blame them, but you almost can't blame them because I don't know any. I didn't go to school with hardly anybody who wouldn't have used it. Right. But where's the rules and the limitations? Like, there is a point where you want children to have an education. Then make them actually work. We had to work, you know. Remember when we had to have our encyclopedias and still reference to them just on basic information.

[01:55:37] Well, that really is the big concern with AI for me. It's not so in the short term, maybe in the long term, you know, godlike powers, things like that. But in the short term, it really is what you do with all the people. You know what I mean? If you're giving way this dam of people who have no skills and no competency, they can't read, they're coming out of high school because the high school's passing. But they can't go into the workforce. Right.

[01:56:04] And then exactly they hit they come up against the workforce that's like, we don't really use people anymore. So good luck. You know what I mean? And then you have all these people. That's the reason for these vaccines. That's it. That's it. Limit the workforce via vaccines. Just get rid of the useless eaters and the world will be a better place. Abominable intelligence from Salvage Valley Homestead.

[01:56:31] That's that's Warhammer lingo, you know. I don't know if you know that. But yeah. Yeah. That's one of my biggest concerns in the short term is the civil unrest and the chaos that seems to be unstoppable because people are not going to be able to have jobs and that kind of thing. David from X writes us a paragraph about AI. AI says it will be like nukes.

[01:56:57] If we don't use it, our enemies will and we will be destroyed militarily, economically or otherwise. We'll have to learn how to use it while not being a slave to it. Yeah. I mean, there will be people capable of that, David. But what makes me what I worry about is the millions or more of people who will become completely enslaved to it. I mean, there's people dating it already. There's girls dating it and guys dating it already. It's not even good. Can you imagine when it's good? Oh, your room. And yeah.

[01:57:26] The people are losing the ability to actually socially interact. I saw. What was it? I think there was an interview.

[01:57:32] I think it was with Jordan Peterson talking about how sex is on the decline because of the fact that AI is there, that people are using artificial intelligence and pornography and everything else, that they're losing the human factor and connection, that it reprograms the brain chemically, that then they can't actually sustain a healthy human relationship, which is needed for us to even function as people. We'll just make the babies in tubes. AI will figure it out.

[01:58:02] No, no, no. Didn't you already see China has an artificial? Is it China or Japan? One of the Asian countries has an artificial uterus that they have already successfully grown animal fetuses into viable animals. And now they're actually looking at using it for human fetuses. What's the fun in that? What's the fun in that? Right. And what's edited DNA and everything else? Nothing good comes of this. Have we not seen enough horror movies? I know, right?

[01:58:32] Horror, sci-fi, anything. I mean, come on. You know what? With the edited DNA, Hitler would be proud. Yeah, it's a good way to look at it. That is a good way to leave it a leveraged AI really well. I mean, I hate to say it, but these cultures and countries that are doing this are performing their own eugenics. Yeah. Like I said, I don't know. That is the question for humanity.

[01:58:59] We've had a lot of inventions and a lot of crazy fads and things take root and we've figured our way around them. I wonder if this is the one that we run up against and we can't overcome it. You know what I mean? Maybe God will throw us a worldwide EMP solar flare and we'll just all go back to growing our own food. Yeah. Agrarian society and people trading. What is it? Darwinism at its best?

[01:59:29] Yep. Well, it may not be God. You know, it may be a, you know, like I'm talking about all these people who are not going to have jobs and lives are going to be ruined. I'm sure there'll be Luddite like factions of people that are like, we'll just blow the grid up. We'll just blow the whole grid up and then AI can't do what it does anyway. But they're going to put an end to that too, I think. But that's the problem.

[01:59:53] Everybody's gotten so comfortable with modern conveniences and being able to go and purchase it that people have lost the basic skill sets just for basic things. Yeah. They're not hungry yet, though. There's nobody hungry in America. You know what I mean? Our poor people are weighed the two times what I weigh and they're, you know, five inches shorter. So you've got to really get hungry before that kind of thinking comes into play.

[02:00:18] What really gives it away is go into the clothing section of, we'll just say Walmart. Go into the pants section for the men's department. And you know how many size? 44 30s. It's like everybody is short and round. Like what the hell? I don't understand. I always used to feel so sorry for ladies because, you know, girls. Oh, everything's large. Trying to find something in my sizes is ridiculous.

[02:00:48] What wasn't just that? I found out that, and this is not news, but it was news to me at the time, when you find out like, oh, your girl buys a size one here and a size two here and they're the same. They're not the same. Right. Right. And you're like, what kind of nonsense is that? And now it's like that for t-shirts. Like for dudes. Because they try to hide the belly or whatever they do with the t-shirts now. And so you buy a medium and it can be like this.

[02:01:18] You know what I mean? Or you buy. So it's been changed with the underwear. I've noticed over the years buying underwear for my partner is, you know, large used to be a certain range. And now, you know, and be like, okay, we'll just get an extra large. And that would fit. Yeah, it's all over the place. Typically used to fit like a 34 or 36 waist. No, extra large covers a 44 up.

[02:01:41] And I'm just like, whoa, when do the sizes change so drastically that, I mean, I see it across the board. But I actually buy a lot of menswear because women's wear is so poorly made and so thin. And it's not even funny. So I wear men's wrangler pants. And it's like, it's just one of those things. Having a good, decent pair of pants with pockets, it's impossible to find in women's clothing.

[02:02:09] Everything's so cheaply made and it costs twice as much. The Bangladesh special you guys got over there. Yeah, it's rough. I'd rather pay $22 for a pair of jeans, wrangler jeans that I know are going to hold up versus me going and buying a $22 pair of women's jeans that have no pockets. My phone's going to fall out of the back pocket.

[02:02:36] And the second I squat too hard after a month or two, they're going to rip out. So it's like, you know. Oh, you can't have that. No way. Because men have better reinforced seams. I wear like, I almost exclusively what now wear either jogging pants or tactical pants. So they're both. And that's where I'm at. I wear men's jeans or I have. And they're oversized jogging pants. Or I wear men's tactical pants. I have the wrangler pants. Yeah.

[02:03:05] Or I'm wearing men's sweat pants right now. Oh, that's the best. You're the best for men and women. And they're thicker though. Women's clothes are so stinking thin. It's so weird, right? But it's that weird leggings thing. You know what I mean? It's that thing. It's that like, let's make it as thin as possible so she's basically naked. Right. It's like a dude who's making them all. Yeah. Yeah. Right? They want the clothes painted on. Right.

[02:03:34] And women's pockets are fashionable. But I live on a homestead. And even before a homestead, I have a life where I need pockets. I need to know my pocket knife's not going to fall. I actually threw a fit because the other day I put on a pair of my women's jeans. And I tried to put my everyday pocket knife in my pocket. And it kept falling out. That I'm like, oh, screw this. And went and grabbed my cargo pants and put on my men's cargo pants. Because it's like, I have like 12 pockets and I use every single one of those pockets.

[02:04:04] It's either that or you need like one of them aprons with the 50 pockets on the front. Yes. But an apron's going to get in the way after a while. Especially if I'm out doing yard work. Because I keep my pockets when I'm out in the yard. Because when I'm out in the garden or the coop area, I have the two little small side pockets that I actually will stick the eggs in my pocket until I can make it back up to the hill. I always thought that it would be fun and funny. And you're more than welcome to steal this idea.

[02:04:33] Anybody who's listening because I don't have time to do it. I always thought it would be fun or funny to create like a legitimate plate carrier homestead style. You know what I mean? With like all your homestead gardening tools and a place for the eggs. So I actually got a couple grenade pouches from Old Grouch. He's now on Whatnot. He's doing auctions on there.

[02:05:00] And I got the little grenade pouches that I can clip onto my carrier. That would be perfect for the eggs. Perfect for eggs. Yeah. That would be great. Yeah. I would love to see that homesteading tactical plate carrier. But I got them for my rig setup so I can carry smaller. I have certain things I want to be able to carry specifically on my rig that I don't need a huge pocket for. I gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's like you said at the beginning of the show.

[02:05:29] You got to make it work the way you want to make it work. You know? That's the thing. And that's, you know, that's at the heart of what sort of artificial intelligence goes against. You know what I mean? It's not. It's so on the other side of individuality. It really is. Because it's literally pulling from the most popular things, you know, to create whatever the hell it's creating. So you lose that sort of wacky individualistic. I don't know. You know?

[02:05:59] It's just my son was showing me. You lose the human factor. Well, you definitely lose that. Yeah, you definitely lose that. But we're losing that in a bunch of ways now. Yeah, that's true. We've been losing that. Yeah. The simplification of things. The modern convenience. I mean, I've always said complacency is a killer. And we're seeing more and more complacency now. Now, especially now, people need to get off their asses and start prepping. I don't know how to say it.

[02:06:27] I can say it nice all day long. But until people start putting in an effort, I mean, things don't get better. Yeah. And the problem is, like, to your point, I think the world would change dramatically if people started down the same path that you and I are on. And so many others here. You know, because you naturally start to pull away from insane amounts of technology or technology that doesn't serve.

[02:06:57] You find over time that you pull away from certain things just on your own. It's like the natural progression of things. Exactly. You find that once you start prepping, oh, I don't need to rely on this as much as I have. Or, oh, OK, I don't. You know, for me, natural progression of things is pulling away from a lot of modern conveniences in the grocery store because now I can just make it or grow it myself. Oh, yeah.

[02:07:27] Yeah, that's huge. That's a huge one. That's one of the most freeing things is when you learn how to make a bunch of things that you've been buying forever from scratch. Or even if you make one thing, you know? Yes. Well, and it serves a purpose. It doesn't have to be the prettiest thing if it works. So, you know, that's like me. Winter wear. Hats, scarves, mittens. I don't buy those. I mean, I make them for my household. Why would I go and spend?

[02:07:54] Yes, I could go buy a bunch of throwawayable pair for, what, a dollar, two dollars now? And what's the point in it when I know the quality of what I'm making? I know the fiber it's made of and it's wool. My family's going to be warm. That's it. That's the sentiment. That's on point, David. Yeah. Yeah. David in chat says, at this point, if you don't have a reason to prep, you won't. So much has happened in the last 10, 20 years.

[02:08:22] I don't know what will wake you up if you have not woken up yet. David is speaking the language. Go ahead. David. Oh, no, no, no. David is right on because the thing is, is what's sad is the number of people as soon as things go sideways, whether it be, you know, catastrophic worldwide or individual, it'd be like, man, I should have done this. Would have, could have, should have doesn't take care of everything. Yeah. Yeah. That is me at my darkest right there.

[02:08:51] Like that is me sitting in front of this microphone. Some mornings, what David put in the chat is how I feel some mornings trying to do this show because sometimes I feel that way. If it weren't for like, if we were going out to an audience of new people all the time, trying to convince them, if it weren't for like the members and the longtime listeners here, that's exactly doing it. That's yeah. That's the mindset that you get into. Cause even on, even with all that we have here at PBN, I get in that mindset sometime

[02:09:19] that David's talking about, like, what am I going to get on here and say today? Because if you ain't prepping now, you're never going to do it. It's, it's insane. But you know, I'll be honest with you, but I still encourage people to just try, try even if it's only just a couple extra cans of food or a couple extra bucks put up, something is better than nothing. Yeah. Like the government's not here to save you. And the truth is at least once per year, at least once, sometimes it's a lot more than

[02:09:49] that, but at least once per year, I get an email from somebody who's done some things and they're so glad they found PBN. You know, and they're new and they're one of these, they're one of these unicorns out there. That's like, they, they just finally got around to it, you know, and because they finally got around to it, you know, we, we made a big difference in their life because we were here and they found us and they're like, Oh, cool. These people know what the deal is.

[02:10:20] Oh, thanks David. Appreciate it. I was like, Oh, thank you, David. Yeah, definitely. It goes a long way, man. Those little things go a long way for the host and myself. You know, the, the bond, I feel like even though I'm on this end of it, the relationships I've made with quite a few of our listeners and the listeners we've lost over time. Yeah.

[02:10:44] And you know, the heartbreak is we, we had a listener who passed away a month ago that I was literally just talking to a couple months before that and just broke my heart. But it's like this, this is it though. We build a bond. We build a kinship. We, we build a family or a community that we wouldn't get elsewise. I mean, where else in the world are we going to be able to connect with other people and

[02:11:10] carry conversations and be able to have subjects, which we all know something on or can learn from each other. I mean, if you're not a part of PBN, you should become a part of PBN. It's totally worth it. You get your own content. We have an element group chat, which is open to anyone who's even not a member. And we have channels and categories there that would just, it's mind blowing. We have a lot.

[02:11:39] It is wild. It is wild over all the years. What we've done, Jay Ferg. And how we've grown. Yeah. To your point, it is a different thing. Like what we do is, is definitely a different thing than just hopping on and talking news. You know what I mean? Like it's different than a Tucker Carlson. It's different than a, even than like a Tim Pool, because a lot of times we press you guys to do more.

[02:12:06] So we're not just bringing you news and being like, I'm irate and here's some secret information and you should be irate. You know what I mean? Like we. No. Yeah. You're, we usually push people into these new lifestyles and, and there is a bond there. There's something different there than just giving you stuff to worry about, you know, like this is the bad news and good luck, you know, have fun. You know what? I can't, I can't do the negative all the time. I have no quarrels about show.

[02:12:36] I'm I, in my opinion, even though my friends tell me I'm a prep and professional because I've been doing it so long in my eyes, I'm not, I'm still constantly growing. I'm still constantly learning. I have no quarrels about admitting my errors or my mistakes and sharing them with everyone. Because if, if I can give my mishaps to somebody and then it prevents them from having the same mishap, then so be it. Because sometimes we learn from our mistakes, even if it's somebody else's.

[02:13:06] Oh yeah. The only thing that happens once you get like more prepared than most or more prepared than the average person, the only thing that's thought, well, that's a bad one. Cause you could do like four, four things tonight and be more prepared than the average person. But the only thing that happens to people when they get really prepared is for me anyway, I don't know if you feel this way, Jordan, but for me, it's like, I'm just juggling whatever

[02:13:31] it is that year that I'm really into and putting focus on certain things. You know what I mean? So it's like, it's not that you just keep a rising tide going on, on all of these different skills and all of these different, you know, preps. I think everything has its focal point, but I'm still pretty spread out. So I will, I do want to say real quick on Victoria's set here and perfect. So many who have prepped for years, slow down and think, well, now we can relax because we

[02:14:00] have people in the office that are helping on 2026, we have midterms and things can certainly go south. And that's what we say is we call it the Trump slump, regardless of what someone's opinions may be, but it does run into an issue that people become complacent and complacency is the killer because they think, ah, we're okay. No, if anything, the calm and smooth moments are the times you need to prep to just as hard,

[02:14:26] if not more, because those hard times are coming and you won't be able to get in a head in the slow time and the hard times. And then she says here, we are blessed to have y'all and people like Rick and Jane to try and educate and push on. We've only just begun. Vicky. Yes, Vicky, you're spot on. That's why we, we want people to come to Prepper Camp. That's why we push it is it's not because we're trying to line people's pockets because Rick doesn't make anything from this.

[02:14:56] He does it for the educational factor, just like we don't make money from this podcast and we do it for the joy of it, just like he does on educating people. It's to get people to come and realize there is more to everything other than watching a MacGyver show and thinking you can make something out of a pen and a paper clip. I'm sorry, but. Yeah. No, you're 100% right. Just because Google says you can doesn't mean you actually can. Yeah.

[02:15:26] Gemini. Gemini's got your back. Yes. Yeah. What do I do? But now my phone has this stupid update. If I hit the power button, it automatically pulls up Gemini and I refuse to use it. I know I don't. I don't need that. I don't want that. When did updates become to a point where I don't get to choose what is or isn't on my damn phone? Oh, 100. Yeah. Yeah. My kids, we used to have a blast with the Google assistant because the Google

[02:15:55] assistant was, you know, it was fun to play with. Yes. One of the things my kids used to do on the Google assistant that was the best is they would change my name and then they, and it was never nice. It was always hilarious. Oh, no. Like they would never be like Superman. You know what I mean? It would be like, it's so funny. And now you can't even call the Google. You can't even say like, hey, Google. Oh, and, and it pops up with that weird robot. Oh, look out. Can I help you? It does. It does that on my car.

[02:16:25] Oh, okay. If I say Google dial so-and-so. But then if I try to call you, like when I try to call you and I'm driving, hey, Google, it's, it's such a pain in the ass sometimes because I have to put it in. I've kept your contact the same since for the like last, has it been eight years? Probably. Probably been like that. Yeah. We're getting close to a decade for sure. Maybe longer. Right. And so it's, it's still James last name. I am Liberty.

[02:16:56] Yeah, that's great. That's the thing. But if I don't read it right, it won't dial you. Oh, you can't read that many words to it either. That's damn near impossible. That's damn near impossible. David made a good comment of, I think Trump will make it better than Kamala would have, but we are still on a bad path as a nation. He or the government will not say it, save us. And that's what we try to tell people. It's, I think, yes, he's doing great. There are things that could always be improved, but here's the thing.

[02:17:25] He is not the end all be all save everything button. It's just not how it works. There are always going to be other people, other forces, other entities trying to remove and make things harder on us. So it's during these good times, it's during these most few moments you can take a breath that you need to work twice as hard because it's, it's not always going to be rainbows and sunshine. It's just not life is. And it's not that I try to be pessimistic.

[02:17:52] And this is where I think you and I, I, this is the part where I love your personality because I feel like you are a very optimistic, happy. I do my best. You see the best in people. And I love that about you. And sometimes I feel so bad because I feel like I'm a bit of a pessimist because I'll be like, no, James, no, it's because of this. It's not because of this.

[02:18:14] Like I see what you're wanting and you're hopeful, but no, and it's not to be ugly, but it's just on the, I would love to be optimistic. But at the same time, I have seen such bad sides of the world and such bad sides of people that I'm just like, I would rather work on the side of caution than to get my hopes up. Right. And then I feel like I'm harsh to you, but because I'm like, I want to protect you because that's just part of me.

[02:18:44] I know you don't need it, but I'm that friend who you don't get to be mean to my friends. I might be an asshole, but no one else gets to be mean to my friends. Like I don't ever want to see sadness or bad things come for my friends with what they're doing. Yeah, I know the feeling. Trust me. Because there's been times you've called me, hey, I haven't told anyone I'm calling you. What do you think? I'm like, you want honest opinion? Yes. OK, well, here it is. And then laying it all out.

[02:19:14] It goes a long way for someone like me. And, you know, it's you got to have those people in your life, man, especially I didn't like I didn't imagine doing this, but we're doing this now. Right. This PBN intrepid commander thing. And, you know, it's easy for people to be like, yeah, go ahead. Or, yes, that's a great idea. You know what I mean? Do it. You're the guy who's running the ship. So we're not going to say anything.

[02:19:42] So you've got to have people like like Jordan in your life. Yeah. I play devil's advocate. Yeah. I mean, I literally you're more valuable because of that than 10 people who I can call up and they say, oh, you're such a great, brilliant idea. You should do it. Nothing will go wrong. You know what I mean? But I also call myself the hemorrhoid because even if I'm not there, I'm a pain in your ass.

[02:20:05] I'm going to remind you a hundred times on something even minuscule of, hey, you said you were going to do this. Where are we standing on? I mean, what I should have done, Jordan, to be honest, to really to give you the value that you're due is I should have kept a running tally of what things we accomplished because Jordan wouldn't let up. You know what I mean? Because there's a list. I'm still working on it. I read it. There's a legitimate list. It's going to happen. It's been six years, but I'm going. It's going to happen.

[02:20:35] I think about it almost once a week. Literally. I think about it almost once a week. And I have ideas. I should write them down. But I'm like, this man is so busy that I feel bad when I bring more stuff to me. Look, it's going to hit a pile of shit and it's going to be there. And either I'm going to get to it or I'm not. And at least with you, you know, if he doesn't, I can get on him. Right. My biggest thing is be like, put it in your notebook.

[02:21:05] Oh, that's the key. Yeah. Well, if you say that. Put it on the list. I need it on the list. And that's usually it's like, all right. You're like, oh, I did, but I didn't get to it. Okay. We'll write it on tomorrow's list. That's a 90% increase in chance that I'll at least get to it at some point. Yeah, you're right. The list is the way to go. The magic book. I would be homeless. See, listeners, we are very human. Very, very human. And we. Yeah. Human to say the least. Right.

[02:21:34] Well, like I always said, you started all that though, Jordan. Jordan, you were the first literally that I ever heard that did a show and admitted something went wrong. Literally the whole time I was on PBN, I listened to people and I even did it say, this is what you need to do. And this is how you need to do it. And that was fundamentally prepper radio for a long time and nothing wrong with it. We got a lot of great information, a lot of great shows that way.

[02:22:03] But you created a whole new kind of genre for people. And I think that you opened up like a lot of different people's ears because you came on that one year and said, my garden got washed out and eaten up by ants. Oh, it was. And so it was a tropical storm berry. And I was up to my mid caps in water. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[02:22:26] I remember listening to that show and feeling like discomfort for you. Like, I was like, I can't believe that she's saying this on the air. And then I realized that it was such a crazy ego trip of my own. And I was like, yeah, fuck me talking about. What are you supposed to pretend? Nothing bad ever happens. We run into errors. And it's like, so all the time example, prime example right now. I ordered several months back.

[02:22:54] I pre-ordered sweet potato slips because I love sweet potatoes. Like that's one of my favorite things to grow. You can eat the leaves. You can, you have the roots and I ordered them and they never showed up. And I'm like, oh, okay, well maybe I late ordered them and they'll be back. They'll be in next year. No, I received them two days ago. And I'm like, oh shit. Yeah. So I have them in a, uh, a cup of water.

[02:23:24] So the roots will keep going. Yeah. But now I have to figure out, oh crap. I have to now definitely do a container, but now I need to figure out some sort of greenhouse because by the time they start producing sweet potatoes or enough greens to eat, we're going to be going into the colder months. Yeah. Like they grow fast. Don't get me wrong. But I, I, you know, grow sweet potatoes specifically more for, so the, the, uh, potatoes themselves.

[02:23:52] And it's like, wow. Uh, we're going into July and I just now getting my sweet potato slips. And it's like, that's going to be a hell of a late harvest. And it's like, how do I navigate this now? So I have now a whole new factor of how to, and it was literally right after my podcast, I got them and I'm like, oh no. Like I literally was like, shit. Okay. What can I do?

[02:24:21] But roll with the punches and see what we can do. So now I'm going to see what I can grow, try to build some sort of makeshift greenhouse as well as see what I can bring inside as container garden in a very limited space. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that, like I said, that is more, that's more what it's about than anything. You know, that shit. I mean, if, yeah, if you, if you hung out in my garden over the last 10 years, you would say that.

[02:24:50] I mean, I've done almost every kind of crazy gardening thing a person can do because it is like, but it, but it is, it is. And speaking of which real quick, we are getting down below the last below 30 minutes to be able to get your tickets before the prices go up. That's it. Freezy. I hope you've been looking at those airline tickets. Yeah. Right. Yeah. We've got 72 people watching. I know somebody out there wants to get that prepper camp ticket before the price goes up. Got to get it. Yes.

[02:25:20] Got to get it. Come say hi to us. Yeah. We're not scary in person. Debatable. All right. I, I, that's a lie. I'm loud. Depends on how much sleep you got the night before. All right. No, I don't know. I think I'm just scary in person anyways. I, and I'm short. I'm only five foot two. This big giant personality for this tall little woman. You're like a, like a short boxer. You get inside real fast.

[02:25:49] And before you know it, you're like, oh, she's here. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I, I have no, I'm not, I'm not shy. I mean, that's one thing is my personality is not, not little and mama bear. I am very protective of my friends. Very protective of, because I've even told James, like James, Ryan, all of their family. I'm very protective. Hey. But I love, I love my people. I don't think.

[02:26:20] I don't know. I'm trying to think how to, like, uh, what has been one of your favorite prepper camp moments? Oh, definitely. One of the best is always the PBM podcast where we all gather together and do our thing. But I do, you know, the morning, the mornings on retail row are great too. You know what I mean? When we all wake up and we're all getting the booths together and we're all, you know what I mean?

[02:26:48] We're polishing up everything and getting ready. And then the, everybody comes walking down and we're doing our thing. The, the group photo is always great. You know, when we gather and do a little group photo by the lake. We didn't get one last year. That, well, you know, a few things to worry about. Yeah. I think we were all trying to figure out how to get home. Right. Yeah. There's a few priorities. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and.

[02:27:17] Well, you know, it's, you know, there are other great memories, too, are those connections that happen at prepper camp, those things that come up, you know, new, new shows, new hosts, new ideas, that kind of stuff. That stuff take when that stuff like organically happens at night after a long day. Sitting at the table. Yeah. Yeah. And then something comes to life. And then like, you look back three years later and you're like, Jesus, that all happened

[02:27:44] like over a brisket and a whiskey and a laugh. And now it's a. Some bear meat. Yeah. Yeah. Something along those lines. Right. Yeah. All that happened then and there. And now it's a, now it's a two year running show or, you know, what else. I thought, well, yeah, the bunker beans from disaster coffee came out of a conversation with wind from prepper camp, you know? And now we've been selling those things for. I don't know. 2019 or something.

[02:28:12] And the fact that you can roast them and the fact that people don't realize that the roast actually determines the amount of caffeination. Like if it's dark roast, it's a lighter, it's less caffeine than if it's a light roast. So it's just the information and everything that goes about it in the shelf life. Is it 30 years? That's the key. Oh, I mean, how many, how long is it on the green? If you pack the green beans up my last style. Well, let me give you the real deal.

[02:28:40] So the idea behind them was just that when Parkinson told me you can pack up green coffee beans just like rice, 20 year shelf life. And I said, yeah, because it lasts longer than already roasted coffee because roasted coffee has a very short shelf life in comparison. Yeah, there's a chemical reaction that happens and then flavor dies from then on. And probably the caffeine, too. I don't know about the caffeine.

[02:29:06] But anyway, I could tell you that I have bunker beans that I roast that are five years old. And they roast up fine. Coffee's great, you know, and this is not in a mylar bag. This is like just hanging out in the pantry, a bag that I work out of. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it is an amazing way to do coffee if you can wrap your head around the roasting part, which. Which didn't you do a video? You can roast in the oven.

[02:29:36] Yeah, I do them in the oven. I always have done them. Wasn't that a members content one? I just did. I think I just did a like a short form for the disaster coffee Instagram not long ago. But I should do it. I think that's where I saw it. Which for those of you who are just popping in who are not a part of PBN, we do have members only videos with with different things. I know I've sent you a video, but I don't think it ever made it to the members only where

[02:30:05] I was explaining stuff. Oh, I posted it. Didn't I? Did you? I don't remember. I don't remember ever seeing it in the members. Because I had sent it to you and said it was free. I think I sent it to you on Signal. Yeah, I don't think it ever made it to you. I'm hungry for that members content from other creators. So I feel like I would have definitely posted it. Not unless it was if it wasn't on your list. Well, that's up there. Depending on the week. That is a good point. Well, I'll find it.

[02:30:34] You've got a full time family in the household just like I do. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's nonstop. Okay. Yes. It's funny that you say that because we have been talking about this for a while. Like this is not a new comment of guys. You know what? We need prepper camp challenge boys. Actually, we need a PBN challenge. We do need a PBN. Yeah. That is something we have been talking about. We've mentioned it off and on for a while. Yeah. Yeah. Our lifetime members.

[02:31:03] I thought about that. How can I make that happen? Yeah. But the challenge coin is good, too, because you could really get people doing some cool stuff to earn that coin. I bet. You know what I mean? Yeah. That they would really benefit from. I've got to go back onto working on some of the merch because I really still want to do the country, not crunchy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We we got to work. Because I met more crunchy people out here and I'm just like, I love it. I think it's great.

[02:31:33] I think there is no limit to the cranking out of the T-shirts. You know what I mean? It's just really easy for me to do. We get the designs. To the listeners and viewers, what merch would you like to see more? Yeah. That's a great question. Stickers, shirts, mugs. What what would tickle your fancy that you would be more apt to buy? Like, I'd be totally curious to see and fit those needs on there.

[02:32:01] We need a Goose Guns Right shirt for Canada. Goose Guns. Did I say that wrong? Oh, Goose Guns. You mean like a G-O-O-S-E gun? Goose Guns Right. Goose. Goose. Hey, you explained it to me, Breezy. Explain it to me on Element. We'll make it happen. Right. But yeah, to David and the other listeners, if you're still here, feel free.

[02:32:29] Tell us if there is any merch you'd like to see, what you'd like to see. I would love to fit it to those. She said she needs a good Gun Rights shirt for Canada. Good. Not Goose. Oh, good. Okay. That makes sense. You got us confused because of the Canadian geese. Hey. I was trying to figure out what a Canadian goose gun was. I was like, what are some children with up there? Is it like an old musket or like off of the cartoons with the wide barrel?

[02:32:57] They do black powder for the geese up there. I had no idea. Yeah, that would be cool. Gun Rights shirts for Canada. I could see that being kind of cool. That would be fun. We got to get Tim back on. I know. Tim, I don't know. He's been so busy. I think Tim is living the good life and he's happy living it. You know what? I can't blame him. His girls are growing up. His family is just, yeah. I can't blame him. Miss him, but I can't blame him. No, yeah. His show was fun, man.

[02:33:25] I don't even know if he, does he do it or not anymore? I'm not sure. I think so. So, under 20 minutes left if you're going to get your tickets before they go up. Man, the countdown is coming. Thanks for staying with me, Jay Berg, for two and a half hours. I think it's worth it. I think Prepper Camp is a great thing. I'm going to promote it with every breath I have.

[02:33:50] I think it's a moment that everyone should take a part of, honestly. Well, it's really made PBN a real flesh and blood thing. Yeah, because it's one place that almost all of us are able to go to. And I know Dane and his wife had every intentions of being able to go, but they were in the middle of a move. Oh, yeah. They've been busy. Yeah. For years busy with that.

[02:34:17] But, yeah, I think that PBN would be a different thing without Prepper Camp. It wouldn't be the same thing because the likelihood, first of all, that we would meet, period, many of the hosts is pretty low. And then the likelihood that we meet together, you know, for such an event is pretty low. Absolutely. And I don't think Doug is actually, Doug's not making it this year. Oh, he's not coming? Mm-hmm. I think there's... His better half will be there? One of... No. No.

[02:34:48] One of his family members is getting married or something. Oh, okay. I don't know. He's got a family thing going on. I love them guys, man. I love the Rising Republic. That was... That's become a great show here on PBN. It is. I enjoy it. It is. It's going to devastate Christopher, though. Because, like, Doug and Ryan are his, like, wilderness man crushes. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. And they're not... And the twosome won't be there. Yeah, he said those are the dangers duo. He's like, God. He goes...

[02:35:16] He's very, very, very confident in his masculinity. And he's like... Yeah. They're kind of hot. He couldn't get... He wanted to be the cream in that Oreo for the picture. Right. To get, like, him and Doug and Ryan on either side. Watching Ryan, like, tie all these knots, he goes, oh, you're like a manly man, wilderness man. And he goes, yeah, that's hot. Ryan's great, man. Ryan's got some great skill sets. Oh, yeah.

[02:35:45] If you've not met him, you have to meet him. Like, this man travels with the smallest amount possible and still has the best setup. Like, the hammocks and everything. I think Colin might be with him this year. Oh, that would be cool. I'd love to talk to Colin. I hope so. Yeah. Such a great young man. That show, man, was a hoot. That thing. The Next Generation. You can search it on PrepperBroadcasting.com or Spotify or iTunes. And the book they wrote?

[02:36:15] Oh, yeah. Point Size Prepper Projects. That's a summer book. Yeah. That is a summer book, parents. That is a great book. That is a great book. Especially if you want to do stuff with your children or even without your kids. If that's something you want to even try and you don't know where, try there. Like, it's a great book for basic beginning stuff. I love it. It's a great book for summertime. You got the kids at home. You know what I mean? You want to do something with them. There's some great projects in there. That's a good one. Yeah. I'm waiting on that second edition.

[02:36:44] I remember Ryan was talking about it. He was saying they were going to do it number two. But see, I feel like we all get so busy because our lives on us achieving our own homesteads and everything keeps us tied. We are getting down to 15 minutes. I'm excited. 15 minutes, folks. I hope to see that people have bought some more tickets. I would love to see the faces. I would love to meet these people. Oh, yeah, man. Can you imagine if you were?

[02:37:13] And it's likely we do run into somebody that says we were on that countdown show you guys did. You know, it wouldn't be out of the ordinary to run into somebody who says that. You know, we were listening on that countdown show. We bought our tickets that night. Yeah. Those are the kind of interactions you have at Prepper Camp. It's like that. It's a weird. It's a crazy thing. It's. Yeah. Because I'll have people who had came up and oh, I used to, you know, I listened to your podcast

[02:37:41] before we became video side of it. And it's like, oh, that's great. You know, and meeting different people from different walks of life is phenomenal. What do you think about the video, J-Fur? I like it. Yeah. I don't mind it. Yeah. You don't mind it. I don't mind it. You know, it's funny is based on how we started without seeing ourselves. And I'm just over here. I'm a hand talker. I can't help it. I talk with my hands.

[02:38:09] And without the cameras on, you know, the faces I make that the hand gestures, everything else. And then now people get to see I am just as animated as I sound and I make just as terrible faces with the camera on. So, you know, and that's like the other day I was doing my show and my son was right there

[02:38:35] with me and he was fussy and is kind of reminded me to the old days of a family affair. And it's like, you know, it's just a part of it. You know, podcasting with a toddler in real time is is just part of life with me. It's not going to stop. Yeah. Yeah. That whole family affair part two. You know, right. Except it's it's one. He's he's into things.

[02:39:02] And we found out how easily you can pull the pin from the fire extinguisher. Oh, wow. And Saturday. And I'm just like, oh, well, it's good to know that he can pull it, but there's no being able to put it back. And so I had to move the fire extinguisher because kid is it's pretty interesting. But yes, I agree. So it's the PBN tube. I like that channel is growing. I do, too.

[02:39:28] We have we'd have a bigger audience if we had PBN, too. But oh, there you go. Oh, that's a great idea. That's a great idea because you guys are doing great, too, man. I love the chicken videos. Well, you got so you had some really cool videos on the building of the woodshed and that kind of stuff. It was good. You got some awesome stuff going on when I first saw the question. Oh, go ahead. No, no, no. Go ahead. I was just going to say when I first saw your channel, Breezy, I thought you were called

[02:39:58] the Savage Valley Homestead. And I was like, man, that's cool. But I like Savage Valley, too. Yeah. Yeah. No, I was going to say I've been working on my my chicken coop. that I had my other other chicks in that now transitioned into the big area. Yeah. And so today I've been working on that doing repairs. And it's like I'm hoping I've got to get the chicks out of the house into the bigger brooding box because, you know, chicks grow fast.

[02:40:29] Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then get the four week old chicks out of the brooding box into the new into the containment pen and the big run with the girls so they can get adjusted to each other before they get let loose. Yeah. It's a different. It is a different Jordan. Jordan. In the country. The smile is different. It is. It is. My Willow even said that she goes, oh, you look like happy Jordan again. Oh, I'm serious.

[02:40:59] I am. I am. I am very much a homestead and country gal. I am not a city person and it's nothing against the individuals who live in the city and like the city. It's just not for me. I feel like I was Wilton being in the longer I stayed there, the less I got to grow. Yeah. Yeah. I think I forgot. And the neighbors. The neighbors were trash, man. Oh, well. You hear this late now. Just wait till you hear the full stories at camp. Oh, God.

[02:41:29] It's rough. I mean, people are crazy nowadays. They are so self-centered. It's bananas. I mean, it really is. It's trashy. Yeah. It's like I will never understand how grown women can walk out of their house in their underwear and T-shirt. Yeah. And just not. No big deal. I don't know. Here I am. We live in a neighborhood. It's not like we live down a country road. Like a dirt road or something. Right.

[02:41:58] No, literally your house is not even 15 steps away from my house. You're walking past four ring cameras, lady. No, she's intentionally walking past the front ring camera and then talking to the camera as she walked past because I had asked her to stop. She wore down a pad. Yes. And then her living with her mother, who is a robust woman, walking outside, picking up packages in the same type of clothing. I'm just like, robust is my favorite word. Yeah.

[02:42:28] That is the best word for fat I've ever heard in my whole life. Well, I could have said the real word of rotund. That's a good one. But robust. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm glad to be in the country. I don't have neighbors. I've never been a neighbor neighbor person. We're down to 10 minutes. Oh, my goodness. 10 minutes. Well, yeah. It's a shame we don't have like a little way of doing a confetti or fireworks on the side. We may actually.

[02:42:58] We may. What are these things do up here? Let's see. We got some weird media assets at the top to do stuff. Welcome. Be right back. Thank you. Yeah, maybe not. No, no. We need to see if we can find one where you can do a little fireworks, especially are we doing a fourth special or. Oh, definitely. Yeah, we'll do a I think we're going to go back to. I'm glad you brought that up. I can bounce this off you while we're burning out the last 10 minutes, but I'm going to set

[02:43:28] up the 24 seven live like we do every year with the patriotic songs and all that stuff. I like that. It's always a blast. It's the only place I can find the stuff I want to hear. You know, we do like the Gettysburg address. We do the JFK speech and that kind of stuff. And it's just we put it on here at the house in the background. It's perfect. And then, you know, colonial songs and that kind of stuff. But I think what I want to do with Rumble is get back to running the archives 24 seven

[02:43:57] like we used to. We can't do it 24 seven because you and I pop in and do shows. But right. I want to run a longer sort of in that dead space on Rumble just to. And I I've considered I don't know how people would feel like when I'm out doing my morning chores, like actually setting up my phone and recording some of it with a little bit of content and then posting it on Rumble in the mornings. Oh, yeah. Why not?

[02:44:25] Do this story of the star spangled banner, says Victoria. Oh, I can't do that. I cry. I literally will get cry. I'll get teary eyed if I explain it. Dave Jones did it to me. I didn't really know the story. And Dave Jones told me one day at his house and he started getting teary eyed. And then from then on, every time I hear the star spangled banner, I get so emotional. So why don't we you set it up? I'll read it. You know, I'll record myself reading the story.

[02:44:55] How's that? That's a good idea. That would be pretty cool. Oh, I would be happy to record that audio so then you can put it with whatever pictures or imagery and I'll be happy to do that. Yeah, I love it. It's so weird that you can love a short little song like that so much. Every every like weird little every weird little thing that like we were at a water park in the Outer Banks a couple weeks ago. And the one thing that they do at open is do the star spangled banner.

[02:45:25] And I'm sitting there watching the flag and I'm like, oh, getting all choked up over thinking about cannon fire blowing up American soldiers. Yeah, but that is just it's I don't know. It is beautiful. The imagery, everything. Oh, yeah. It's yeah. It's America. You know what I have realized, though, is funny, especially with the podcast. And this camera is driving me insane how this is doing it. My accent.

[02:45:54] What do you mean? My camera affects your accent. No, I know for a fact over time because I deal with so many patients and so many people. I turn my accent off for this. If you ever notice when I'm at prepper camp and I'm in person or I have a couple of drinks, I sound like our cans in Jordan all day long. And I sound like a little ref running around because I remember when you were at prepper

[02:46:22] camp, we were sitting at a table and Brian asked me, so do you get an accent when you're drinking or is it just helping you remove the high the I forgot what he covered it? The buffer is like, oh, it removes the buffer. Well, but you have a switch that is impressive, like a professionalism switch that I saw at prepper camp, like where we would be chatting and having fun and laughing and someone come to your booth and you go into like it's not even salesy.

[02:46:51] It's just it's like it's just professional. I don't know how else to explain it. It's just like you're at the booth now and I'm I'm professional Jordan and I'm going to explain this shit to you the way it's supposed to be explained. Well, the way I see it is, yeah, if you're coming to my booth to talk to me, you deserve the attention and the focus on what you're asking. I mean, it's I've been to areas and shows and events where I've gone somewhere and I've just been kind of, you know what I mean?

[02:47:21] Like the person didn't want to engage or didn't want to interact. And that's not fair. You know, if someone comes up and talks to you, even if it may seem outlandish, they want to learn or know something. Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah. And if it's in person, I mean, that's yeah, no, that's nerve wracking. I don't know. Like it's nerve wracking, especially if you're going up to somebody that you kind of like. What is it? Oh, yeah. It's true.

[02:47:50] I mean, most people. Five minutes. Five minutes and counting. PBM family time is running out. Time is running out. In tickets before they go up, they will only continue to go up as the date gets closer. Yeah. So it's best to get them now and not later. And I'm going to tell you what. Get it. This is a small investment and a bigger investment for your future. That's it.

[02:48:19] It is literally you are investing in skill sets and in your future and getting to meet people and the camaraderie. It's just astounding. Yeah. For the price, you're going to pay 75 bucks for your ticket and some change. Right. The one day at Prepper Camp, even if you can only make it a day trip, it's worth the cost of admission. One day, 60 classes. It really is. I mean, a day trip is worth it.

[02:48:46] And the longer you wait, though, the harder it is to even find somewhere to rent, to camp, anything, because the Airbnbs and hotels can't book up fast, too. Yeah. Yeah. One hundred percent. Well, guys, if you're tuned in on YouTube, make sure you follow us and make sure you follow Salvage Valley Homestead. We're going to have a friendly race to a thousand subscribers. I'm very nervous. I'm actually going to set up a YouTube.

[02:49:14] I think I may take in. Why not? You can join the race. All right. I'm going to be way behind. Oh, you'll catch up. Trust me. I need to post more on X. I haven't been. I have you not YouTube. I have rumble, which I haven't been posted as much. I got to fix that. I have tick tock. I've been posting on an Instagram. Hey, that's good. Look, look at it this way. You do one. You could cut one clip from your show a week.

[02:49:44] That's like four minutes or five minutes. That's your weekly YouTube video. And then you could run all your shorts to through YouTube. That would be enough. If people would watch the truth has a certain ring to it, Jay Fergie Hemingway said. And you're good at that, you know? I don't know. Sometimes I have shows where it's I feel like the two shows before this last Saturday were phenomenal and on point. And then this Saturday is like, ah, but it happens. Sometimes we have shows. Yeah.

[02:50:14] And other times it's just like, hmm. Yeah. We live in a world of we live in a world, Jay Ferg, of macro editing. You know what I mean? Like I don't edit anything, though. I don't take what I've done and run it through editing. You and I know all the PBN hosts that do live. We get on here and we just let it fly. Yeah. And it's amazing to pull it off. Yeah. And there for a while our shows were whatever we did. We were not what we titled.

[02:50:43] Yeah. Yeah. I'm good at that still to this day. I had a reputation for that for a long time. Yeah. And I love those. They're my favorite shows, too, by the way. They do. Because sometimes that's when we get the most interaction and the most involvement from everybody. Yeah. And sometimes you pull some good stuff out. Yeah. You know, out of places you didn't know. You pull out some ideas and some concepts. You know what? We are up to 84 people right now.

[02:51:13] 79 from X. Five from Prepper Broadcast. I mean, from YouTube. I guess nobody from Rumble. You know what? It never shows the Rumble statistics on here anyways. Yeah. That's true. So regardless, for those of you who are just popping in, if you are not Preppers, what is something that you would like to hear in the future that would maybe get you interested in prepping? What skill set is it that you feel like you're lacking or that you would like to just know more about? Yeah, definitely. Let's hear it. Yeah.

[02:51:43] Because we've got the firepower, man. We have the horsepower here at PBN. There's so many hosts. We have the hosts. Oh, my God. And then the network outside of the hosts. There's just an expert for every damn thing you can think of. That we know. And we all come from different walks of life. So if I'm not a good fit for you, somebody else probably is or definitely is. You know, Dane's our gun guy. Dave's our Dave. Dave is everybody's guy.

[02:52:12] I don't care what he wants to say. Yeah. Dave is for everyone. Yeah. There's no doubt about that. Dave is a special guy, man. And look. Oh, man. 20, 25 seconds. Oh, my God. You got to do it now. If you're going to do it, you got to do it now. If you don't get your ticket right now, it's going to go up. And even if you do wait, still get a ticket. Still get a ticket and go to proper camp. This is not the end all be all on tickets.

[02:52:39] But we wanted to make sure we promoted something while it was still on the lower end. And we're still going to promote it once it even goes up on the higher end, too. I have no idea what's going to happen when this timer ends. Right? Ta-da! Ta-da! Yeah. There it is. There's like no music? What the hell? That's that. The timer has run. Holy crap. You know, I really didn't think we were going to do three hours tonight. Oh, I'm sorry.

[02:53:08] I did not think that you or Rick was going to hang. No, no, no, no. It was fun. I just didn't think any of us were going to make it. I thought we were going to be like, okay, long day. Yeah, screw work tomorrow. I mean, I'm still going to work, but I'd just be a little tired. Who cares? Oh, yeah, I could care less. I will always have time for PBN. Always. I'll always have time for reaching out to the listeners. Always. It doesn't matter. It could be two o'clock in the morning. You tell me, hey, we're going to do like a stupid early. All right, I'll be up.

[02:53:37] I'll be groggy as hell, but I'll be up. You are consistently the first one when I say, hey, we're going to do a thing Monday night. Yeah, we're going to do a thing Monday night. Who wants to do it? I'm down. That's the first thing I always say. I'm down. Yeah, that's right. That is right. Well, that's the point is even if I don't put out a show every Saturday, I want to be consistent with Prepper Broadcasting in one form or another because, I mean, I like hearing

[02:54:05] myself talk, but I feel like I can contribute in content. Oh, it's going to be great, Jordan. I mean, I know you know, but God, I'm so excited to see what you are doing. I just can't wait to see what you're doing in three months. I can't wait to see what you're doing in six months. I mean, I will be recording content on Sunday because I will be butchering rabbits. Look, this is what I'm saying. Yeah, this is what I mean.

[02:54:32] I didn't even think to set up the camera when I was processing the turkeys and we only get a few pictures, but I actually plan on recording me processing some rabbits. I'm telling you, like I said, you are back in your element. You know what I mean? I am. And I'm still not right where I want to be, but I'm getting there just like I've got to finish sewing some curtains and doing some other stuff. And it's like, yeah. Well, I think that's you too, though. The job is probably never done with you, but you're in your element.

[02:55:01] You know, a nine to five is not helping. Yeah, we got to get rid of that. That's got to go. Actually, Christopher is trying to push me to find a part time because he's doing well on his end. A part time. So I have more time for our toddler and the homestead because that's the number one thing also is with him. I'm doing everything here with him. And, you know, I need more time to sit there and work on certain developmental skills. And I think the homestead can become a moneymaker.

[02:55:30] You know that you've seen, you know, plenty of people rocking massive amounts of YouTube followers and that kind of stuff. And that's I've had quite a few people pushing me to put on YouTube. And I just I don't know why I haven't pulled it. You know what? I haven't pulled the trigger like you. No, no, no, no. I was going to say like you haven't on blog talk. Not the. You can red beacon. Oh, red beacon. There you go. Yeah, it's probably a little bit of my voice in your head, too, because I've always been

[02:56:00] so worried about establishing an income on YouTube and having it taken away. No, you know, I don't think it's so much is for the income. It's been the fact that I've watched YouTube close us down for so many stupid, minute things. That's what I mean. No, I don't censor. Well, I'll rephrase. I don't censor myself. Well, so this whole podcast is going to get censored because we did that little section about vaccines. Watch.

[02:56:28] I'll get a message tomorrow morning from YouTube. You said the V word. You're going to be in trouble. Well, you know what? I'll just make sure I download this one afterwards and I post it on my rumble as well. Oh, that's a great idea. We can download it from StreamYard and do whatever we want. Yeah, that's good. It's a good feeling. Right. Right. Self-reliance and independence. I guess you're going to have to macro edit and remove that portion and repost it. Oh, hell no. No. See, that's why. Uh-uh.

[02:56:59] No, it's too real. We're too real for that. You know? There's no way. But for us, our night elves, I think James and I are both at a stopping point because we have children and lives tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to show up at least a little bit. You guys were awesome, though. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. And again, reach out to us or join PBN and become a member. Do we have a promotion going on right now with it?

[02:57:27] I might even have it on my banner here. Yeah. Bingo. Promo code B2. PBN code B2. Yeah. 25% off membership, folks. Go check out the website. You don't have to be a member to check out the site. Just go to PBNfamily.com. We have Element. If you'd like to see what we're about, reach out. All of that's on Prepper Broadcasting Network.com. Check it out. Or Prepper Broadcasting.com. Sorry. I mean, it'll come up. You type it in. It'll come up. Right.

[02:57:56] Come say hi. Join us. Follow us on YouTube, Instagram, X, Rumble. We're everywhere. TikTok. No doubt about it. We're on TikTok. You're on TikTok now. We'll see how long that lasts. But all right, folks. I appreciate you, man. Get them tickets. Your chance at 75 is gone. But, you know, there's still big money to be saved. Yeah. It went from 25% off to 20% off. So you didn't lose out that much.

[02:58:24] But we'd love to see you there in person. Jordan, the best. Appreciate it. No problem. Have a good night. See ya. We will see you guys tomorrow, or I will. All right.