Defense with Dane, Virgis Ch 41

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[00:00:27] Dane, the

[00:00:33] following week, Cole found himself scouring the Nevada countryside.

[00:00:34] He was searching for a crafty group of rebels his teams were having difficulty finding.

[00:00:40] Cole's team's footsteps thumped on the dry ground as the rebels' location became less

[00:00:45] certain.

[00:00:47] Pulling off his hat, Chappy scratched his head in frustration.

[00:00:51] We searched this area two months ago.

[00:00:54] He was scouring his sentiment but determined to find these rebel fighters.

[00:00:57] Cole barked back, so we're searching it again.

[00:01:01] The thermals we picked up last night showed they were coming this way when Roe added,

[00:01:06] studying the electronic device in his hand.

[00:01:09] I'm telling you, there's tunnels or something.

[00:01:13] Thermals can't just disappear, Chappy interjected, taking a long pull off his canteen.

[00:01:19] Watching the sun push late into the afternoon, Cole was concerned they would lose daylight

[00:01:23] too quickly to complete the roundup today.

[00:01:27] This team is smart.

[00:01:29] Keep scanning, Monroe.

[00:01:31] If they're reflecting the signal with mylar blankets, eventually their heat will show out

[00:01:35] the sights.

[00:01:36] Unless they're carrying around a big piece of glass, Chappy teased.

[00:01:41] Would that work?

[00:01:42] Private Guthrie asked curiously.

[00:01:44] Monroe shook his head, replying.

[00:01:47] Glass does block a thermal scanner, but they're not carrying around a big piece

[00:01:51] of it.

[00:01:53] While the men joked, Cole heard the birds and the forest changed their calls.

[00:01:57] Everybody quiet.

[00:01:58] Did you hear that?

[00:02:00] Cole strained to listen to the forest sounds.

[00:02:03] Slow, quiet footsteps crackled on the leaves, and a bird chirped a quick alarm call.

[00:02:09] Guthrie declared loudly, over there, sir.

[00:02:12] Cole snapped Guthrie a stern look.

[00:02:15] There was no option but to fight now.

[00:02:18] Defensive positions he commanded.

[00:02:20] The men concealed themselves in the forest scenery and they waited.

[00:02:24] Although he could not see them, Cole knew the rebels were out there.

[00:02:28] Delacately creeping towards Cole Monroe whispered, why do I get the feeling we're the ones

[00:02:33] being hunted?

[00:02:35] Because we are.

[00:02:36] I told you they were smart, Cole replied with a breath.

[00:02:40] Straining to hear them move, Monroe scanned the forest with his thermal scanner.

[00:02:45] Cole watched his head slowly move from left to right.

[00:02:49] The noise of a leaf crinkling caught Cole's attention.

[00:02:53] He gently tapped Monroe, signaling with hand signals the direction of the sound.

[00:02:58] Monroe returned his eyes to the scanner, carefully looking the area over.

[00:03:03] He put it down, giving Cole a positive signal that the team was over there.

[00:03:08] He stealthily made his way towards Guthrie.

[00:03:11] The young soldier eagerly awaited his chance to prove himself.

[00:03:15] Take your team and flank left.

[00:03:17] Monroe commanded quietly.

[00:03:19] Notting Guthrie indicated to his men with hand signals to follow him.

[00:03:24] The five men began an arduously slow journey to get into position.

[00:03:29] Alert to the rebel team's position, Chappy crept in from the other side of Cole.

[00:03:34] They're moving, sir, stacking up on our team.

[00:03:37] Pull them back.

[00:03:38] Chappy urged him quietly.

[00:03:41] Risking the noise Cole spoke into his radio.

[00:03:43] First private.

[00:03:45] Go ahead.

[00:03:46] Guthrie answered.

[00:03:47] Fall back.

[00:03:48] They're on you.

[00:03:49] Cole directed.

[00:03:50] Yes, sir, Guthrie confirmed.

[00:03:52] Monroe take half the squad to the right.

[00:03:55] Let's see if we can outmaneuver them, Cole said with a sly smile.

[00:03:58] Yes, sir.

[00:04:00] He twirled his finger in the air, pointing in the direction he wanted his men to go.

[00:04:05] Cole squeezed up to the tree protecting him as he watched Monroe's men scrambling

[00:04:10] for cover from the gunfire that assaulted the quiet of the forest.

[00:04:14] Surprised by the tactics of this rebel team, Cole commanded Chappy and the group accompanying

[00:04:19] him.

[00:04:20] Move in and provide cover.

[00:04:22] Cole fired his weapon pushing into the center of the rebel team, but these rebels had an

[00:04:26] outstanding strategist leading them.

[00:04:29] They always seemed to be one step ahead of any move Cole's team made.

[00:04:34] Suddenly, Cole's radio sounded.

[00:04:36] The panic voice of first private Guthrie sounded on the other side.

[00:04:40] Sir, they have us pinned.

[00:04:43] We're on our way, Cole assured him.

[00:04:45] He used hand signals to direct his team towards Guthrie.

[00:04:48] There they are, Chappy told him.

[00:04:51] Cole watched two members of his team fall and knew he had to end this as quickly as

[00:04:55] possible.

[00:04:57] Lay down cover fire on the perimeter.

[00:04:59] Don't let them move.

[00:05:00] The gunfire filled Cole's ears as he watched the rebel team start to carefully retreat.

[00:05:06] Move, move, move, Cole directed urging his team to follow them.

[00:05:10] They would be able to get to Guthrie's team along the way.

[00:05:13] Oh shit, Chappy yelled, pointing out a man getting ready to throw a grenade.

[00:05:18] Get out of there Guthrie!

[00:05:20] An explosion sent wood chips flying, covering his eyes for a moment.

[00:05:24] Cole looked up into the dust.

[00:05:27] Guthrie's team lay on the ground and the rebels had retreated further into the forest.

[00:05:31] Medic, move in Chappy!

[00:05:33] Press the team towards Monroe.

[00:05:35] You six set up a perimeter guard for the medics.

[00:05:38] Cole directed as he moved the remainder of his team towards the rebel fighters.

[00:05:42] They were on the defense now and the screams of the injured echoed through the trees.

[00:05:47] Major, we're losing too many men, Chappy declared watching the flow of the battle.

[00:05:52] Where are you Monroe?

[00:05:53] Cole called into his radio.

[00:05:56] Monroe responded in little more than a whisper.

[00:05:59] Just about there sir.

[00:06:01] The gunfire continued in the distance and Cole's team kept pressing.

[00:06:05] Put your guns down!

[00:06:06] We have you surrounded, Cole heard Monroe yell at the rebels.

[00:06:10] You'll never take us, a man declared, signaling the fighter to move.

[00:06:14] That's their commander right over there, Chappy told Cole.

[00:06:17] Stay here, Cole commanded, slowly creeping towards the man in the distance.

[00:06:23] Distracted by the battle with Monroe, the rebel leader in his guards never heard

[00:06:26] Cole stealthily creeping in behind him.

[00:06:30] Cole cocked his gun in the man's ear as he stepped forward.

[00:06:34] Calmly he quietly told the man, you don't have to die here.

[00:06:39] And I promise you and your men will not be going to a refugee camp.

[00:06:44] But you need to cooperate right now or the deal is off.

[00:06:48] I can't lose any more fighters.

[00:06:51] What the man responded trying to turn around?

[00:06:54] You heard me.

[00:06:55] I'll give you my word.

[00:06:56] But the fighting has to end now, Cole insisted.

[00:07:00] Put your guns down!

[00:07:01] The commander yelled to his men.

[00:07:03] Sir, but you said one of his men protested.

[00:07:06] The commander cut him off.

[00:07:08] I know what I said, but now I'm saying to put your guns down.

[00:07:12] Chappy, Monroe, wrap this up.

[00:07:14] You come with me, Cole directed.

[00:07:16] But you said my men, the commander whispered,

[00:07:19] come with me, Cole barked.

[00:07:22] Do as they command, guys.

[00:07:23] I'll be back.

[00:07:24] The commander told his men before walking away with Cole.

[00:07:28] Sweat ran the camouflage paint on the commander's dark skin

[00:07:31] as he looked nervously up at Cole.

[00:07:34] Very impressive battle, Cole declared honestly.

[00:07:37] If I hadn't lost so many fighters,

[00:07:39] I would be congratulating you.

[00:07:41] The man looked down and removed his hat,

[00:07:43] revealing the soft black pad of hair underneath it.

[00:07:47] I still surrendered.

[00:07:49] Like I promised myself I wouldn't do, he declared sadly.

[00:07:53] You didn't surrender.

[00:07:55] You prevented the death of your team

[00:07:57] and took a chance that there might be something better

[00:07:59] out there.

[00:08:00] Cole told him, pausing for a moment

[00:08:02] to reflect on his course of action.

[00:08:05] The death of your team would have been tragic.

[00:08:08] What gave you the idea to hunt us instead?

[00:08:11] The best defense is a good offense,

[00:08:13] the commander said with a smile, putting his hat back on.

[00:08:17] That took balls.

[00:08:18] Trust me, you're going to need them

[00:08:20] where you're going, Cole assured him.

[00:08:22] How so, the commander wondered curiously.

[00:08:25] The Western militia is hiring.

[00:08:27] Interested, Cole asked knowing this man's skills

[00:08:30] were precisely what Cassidy needed.

[00:08:33] The commander's face furrowed.

[00:08:35] They're fighting the feds, he commented.

[00:08:38] Exactly, Cole agreed.

[00:08:40] But don't you fight with the feds?

[00:08:45] My man Chappy will get you in your team

[00:08:47] where you need to go, Cole assured him.

[00:08:50] Why would you do this, the commander wondered gratefully?

[00:08:53] Remaining emotionless, Cole responded,

[00:08:56] the landscape isn't always black and white.

[00:08:58] Extending his hand to shake Cole's,

[00:09:00] the rebel commander stated, I'll never forget this.

[00:09:04] Shaking the man's hand, Cole told him, you better.

[00:09:07] I meant, I thought you were a different man,

[00:09:10] not one that deserved my respect,

[00:09:12] but you have it, the commander clarified.

[00:09:16] I wouldn't have pulled your team out

[00:09:17] if you didn't earn mine, Cole assured him.

[00:09:20] The two men rejoined the teams.

[00:09:22] The commander's men wore zip ties

[00:09:24] on their wrists and stood in a group.

[00:09:26] Cole's men had gathered up the wounded.

[00:09:28] Luckily, Guthrie had not sustained much more than a concussion.

[00:09:32] Private Jetsup was helping him load into the transport.

[00:09:35] Chappy approached Cole asking, what's the plan, sir?

[00:09:39] Load up the commander's team into a transport,

[00:09:42] take them to the homesteads, Cole directed.

[00:09:45] Where do you want me to meet you when I'm done?

[00:09:46] Chappy inquired.

[00:09:48] Since we're already this far south,

[00:09:50] I might as well go get supplies from Vegas.

[00:09:53] But you can meet us back in Reno.

[00:09:55] Yes, sir, Chappy responded,

[00:09:57] directing his men to load up the fighters.

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[00:11:10] Hello and welcome back to the Changing Earth podcast.

[00:11:14] This is episode number 440,

[00:11:17] season 15, episode 41.

[00:11:22] Hey, Chin, what's up?

[00:11:24] Hey, Chin's up.

[00:11:25] Hey, one thing, I want to come clean.

[00:11:27] I'm really only five foot four.

[00:11:29] I just can't.

[00:11:31] Oh, I'm going to have to put up bonus audio now.

[00:11:36] We got Dane Draven with us.

[00:11:40] Hey, Dane, how you doing?

[00:11:42] Hey, hey, hey. How y'all doing?

[00:11:44] Five foot four.

[00:11:46] We were talking about the ethics of people before the show.

[00:11:52] And yeah, Chin's only five foot four.

[00:11:56] He is part Asian descent.

[00:11:59] And...

[00:12:01] Yeah, I just got a text from Chin.

[00:12:04] I think he's...

[00:12:07] Chin is a giant is what he is.

[00:12:09] Oh, my gosh.

[00:12:11] He's two people tall.

[00:12:13] I couldn't let that slide.

[00:12:15] Oh, no, the best Dane was like,

[00:12:18] is that why we call him Chin?

[00:12:20] Because he fits underneath your chin.

[00:12:22] You're right.

[00:12:24] I fit underneath his waist pretty much.

[00:12:27] I thought I'd heard you guys talk about how tall he was.

[00:12:29] And that's why I was like, wait a minute.

[00:12:31] Are they all really super short and he's the tallest one?

[00:12:35] A lot of us, yeah, actually.

[00:12:38] Yeah, Tim's like only a head under Chin.

[00:12:45] So and Doug is tall as tall as Chin.

[00:12:49] Yeah, I'm like five, ten, five, eleven somewhere in there.

[00:12:53] I'm not, you know, I'm bad at retight.

[00:12:55] Yeah, I'm about five foot.

[00:12:57] So and definitely average stupidity.

[00:13:00] Same.

[00:13:03] Average IQ for sure.

[00:13:06] All right, so a little bit of business before we get into Chit Chat.

[00:13:10] Episode 16, season three, season finale airing this Thursday.

[00:13:18] So it's it's it turned out really good.

[00:13:22] I can't wait to hear like how you guys liked it because

[00:13:26] I thought it turned out amazing.

[00:13:29] So anyway, yeah.

[00:13:32] So wrapping up that we'll have to do like a blooper show.

[00:13:36] And James wants to do like a full on all of the show marathon.

[00:13:44] And yeah, and like have people run a marathon while it's going on.

[00:13:49] Oh, I was like, I was like, I'll host it for you.

[00:13:56] Yes, a lot.

[00:13:58] I would hand out water.

[00:13:59] I could hit a heavy bag like the whole time, but running.

[00:14:05] Dude, hitting a heavy bag will wear you out, man.

[00:14:08] Oh, dude, I can do that for like an hour at least.

[00:14:11] And back back when I was in my teens and in my early 20s,

[00:14:16] I was I used to do Muay Thai kickboxing and rolling heavy back.

[00:14:20] That'll definitely tire you out even working the pads with another person.

[00:14:25] We'll tire you out speed bag, not so much.

[00:14:27] You're wrecked. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:14:29] We had an MMA the other night we did two minutes on the stand up bag

[00:14:34] and then two minutes on the ground bag, ground impound.

[00:14:38] So just alternating between no break.

[00:14:41] And then my coach there with a shield to bunk you,

[00:14:44] bump you the whole time, try and pull you off the ground bag and everything.

[00:14:49] Nice. Yeah.

[00:14:51] Nice to that. That's great training.

[00:14:53] Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was like, man, I only go once a week.

[00:14:57] I do my own training during the week

[00:15:00] and only do that once a week because, you know, my body is just like, yeah,

[00:15:04] I hate you. So don't throw up on there.

[00:15:07] Don't throw up on their feet.

[00:15:09] No, no, it can definitely get the endurance still.

[00:15:12] And I like to keep the agility up.

[00:15:14] So, you know, when we're doing, you know, when we were doing that stuff,

[00:15:19] the big thing is they would always say, you know, your gas is what's going

[00:15:23] to save you in a fight. You know, if you have the endurance,

[00:15:25] you will win even if you're getting hurt unless you get knocked out,

[00:15:29] you're going to win. Yeah.

[00:15:30] And as you get older, it's all about knowing how to conserve that energy

[00:15:36] and just hit maximum damage when you are letting it rip.

[00:15:40] So yeah, he's big into, yeah, punch light, make him think that you can't hit him.

[00:15:46] I like they'll just totally underestimate you and then you can just destroy him.

[00:15:50] And I'm like, I like it. I like sounds like my kind of guy.

[00:15:53] Yeah. He's turning all my sports stuff, taking away all the sport stuff

[00:15:58] and turning it into street fighting. Yeah. So yeah.

[00:16:01] Yeah, because there ain't going to be no rules.

[00:16:03] Right. And in like, I'm used to fighting people.

[00:16:06] We all got to go to work the next day, you know.

[00:16:09] Yeah. And so you don't hurt nobody too bad.

[00:16:11] Right. So he pads up and he's like, OK, you need to just go like there's no holding back.

[00:16:17] Yeah. Like, all right.

[00:16:20] I could actually do something fun.

[00:16:22] Yeah, she got it.

[00:16:24] You know, you know, no, never mind.

[00:16:26] I'm going to tell you to do that. Never mind.

[00:16:30] I was going to tell you to pull an iPhone and see what he does.

[00:16:32] But now he's he's an awesome self-destruct defense instructor as well.

[00:16:37] So yeah, we do a lot of that.

[00:16:39] I could go full out, man.

[00:16:41] I was right. Like here you go.

[00:16:42] I got to have my son.

[00:16:43] It's like right there all the time.

[00:16:45] So it's actually made of chocolate, but that's not the point.

[00:16:51] What are you eating? The handle first?

[00:16:52] It's not the point.

[00:16:54] Actually.

[00:16:58] Oh, so for so for those of you who don't catch the blooper episodes,

[00:17:04] Dane plays Mr. Lee and the amount of bloopers that I can just harvest off

[00:17:12] of every vocal recording is awesome.

[00:17:14] So it's very entertaining to always put your audio together.

[00:17:19] So thank you for that.

[00:17:20] I appreciate it. You want to know my secret?

[00:17:22] What's that? Elmo channeling your inner Elmo?

[00:17:25] No, no, I oh, that one.

[00:17:28] OK.

[00:17:31] That's a really big word.

[00:17:34] Um, no, my secret is that I never take anything seriously.

[00:17:40] Obviously. OK, because when you're doing the counter lines for Carol,

[00:17:45] that's almost I mean, if not more funny.

[00:17:49] Well, it's easier for her to come to like play off of somebody.

[00:17:52] So I have to I have to mess with her a little bit and see if I can get her to laugh.

[00:17:57] I am so impressed.

[00:17:59] It was like I would just be rolling.

[00:18:01] She she as you guys obviously were married for a while

[00:18:04] because she can hold it together and you are just going off

[00:18:09] because I'm not wearing any pants.

[00:18:11] I would have just lost it.

[00:18:15] I yeah.

[00:18:19] That's what I always tell everybody about doing the audio drama.

[00:18:23] I listen to my friends talk all the time, you know,

[00:18:26] because I'm always working on audio.

[00:18:28] So yeah, yeah, I get to listen to you guys all the time.

[00:18:31] You only get to listen to me once a week.

[00:18:32] So yeah, she's she's very used to me now.

[00:18:36] She you know, when you when you're married

[00:18:38] a certain period of time, the your partner just looks over at you

[00:18:41] and just rolls her eyes. Yeah.

[00:18:43] I like seriously. OK.

[00:18:47] Like I look at her and I tell her dad jokes all the time

[00:18:50] and I'm like, hey, did I tell you about that new pencil I invented?

[00:18:52] It has erasures on both sides.

[00:18:54] And she's like what?

[00:18:55] And I said, never mind. It's pointless.

[00:18:56] That's pointless.

[00:18:57] She doesn't like the joke.

[00:18:59] Like, you know, I'm going to tell that one to Christian.

[00:19:02] My youngest son loves the dad jokes.

[00:19:04] My husband has them all in his database.

[00:19:06] That's just the worst database.

[00:19:10] It is that.

[00:19:13] Yeah, I got I tell her jokes like that all the time

[00:19:15] and she just rolls her eyes.

[00:19:18] I live with this.

[00:19:19] I chose this guy. Oh my gosh.

[00:19:23] All right. So what's going on?

[00:19:25] So believe it or not, we're talking defense of strategies today.

[00:19:29] We just had the Virtus episode where he like the hunter became the hunted.

[00:19:34] I always love writing stuff like that.

[00:19:37] So I wanted to have you on to talk about it,

[00:19:40] but I also found out what you do for a living.

[00:19:43] I want you to talk a little bit about that

[00:19:45] and just a little bit of like where you come from

[00:19:47] and a little bit more about Dane

[00:19:49] so we can get to know more more about who Dane is

[00:19:54] other than the blooper guy.

[00:19:57] OK, well and gun helper, by the way.

[00:20:00] Thank you very much for that with my new firearm.

[00:20:02] That was very, very useful.

[00:20:04] So good skill to have. Yeah.

[00:20:06] No worries.

[00:20:07] So let's see.

[00:20:11] Up until recently, I was working as a gunsmith

[00:20:15] and I worked as a gunsmith for

[00:20:19] I want to say like eight years, something like that.

[00:20:21] And then I was offered a job in management

[00:20:24] at a giant sporting goods retailer.

[00:20:28] And I went over and worked in management

[00:20:30] in the hunting department and a large sporting goods retailer.

[00:20:35] Did that for a while realized? Oh, right.

[00:20:37] Now I remember I hate retail.

[00:20:39] So I hear you.

[00:20:42] Yeah, right. Yeah.

[00:20:44] So I left that job after a couple of years.

[00:20:48] I want to say about three years and

[00:20:51] I think it sucks as you miss the discount.

[00:20:54] You know, being a player. Oh, fair enough.

[00:20:56] Yeah, like getting a ammo at a discount is, you know,

[00:20:59] it's like 10 percent over cost.

[00:21:00] You're like, oh, man, this sucks.

[00:21:03] Let that discount go. Yeah.

[00:21:05] The other thing you could do that people may not know.

[00:21:07] I'll tell you all you guys this about the firearm industry.

[00:21:12] People that work behind the counter, they have what are called spiffs,

[00:21:16] which means if let's say I sell you 10.

[00:21:19] I make a drill for this, but I sell you 10 vortex scopes.

[00:21:23] I will get it. I will get a free vortex scope.

[00:21:27] If I sell you 10 sig pistols, I'll get a sig pistol.

[00:21:31] So on and so forth.

[00:21:32] Wow. All companies have them.

[00:21:34] And every single company has freebies that you can get.

[00:21:39] Free swag, things like that.

[00:21:41] I think, man, if I sell if I sell 10 insurance policies,

[00:21:45] I don't get a free one.

[00:21:46] Yeah, right. Yeah.

[00:21:48] So that's going far.

[00:21:51] Yeah, there you go. Get an FFL.

[00:21:53] It really honestly, it's not that hard.

[00:21:54] The hardest part is staying compliant,

[00:21:57] but you can call in compliance guys that will keep you compliant.

[00:22:02] The big thing right now is with the ATF zero tolerance policy,

[00:22:06] you would need to have people in there checking dot in your eyes

[00:22:09] and crossing your teeth for you.

[00:22:11] You know, yeah, I'm sure I'm already on enough lists.

[00:22:13] I think I'm good.

[00:22:15] So the thing I could tell you though at the place that I was at

[00:22:19] when we did 44 73s and for any of your listeners out there that don't know

[00:22:23] a 44 73 is the massive FBI background check that you have to do

[00:22:28] every time you buy a firearm.

[00:22:30] It's not really that massive, but it is paperwork and some are instant.

[00:22:33] Some are not some come back delayed.

[00:22:36] Some come back denied.

[00:22:39] That being said, what we used to do at the Sporting Arts retailer,

[00:22:43] I was at we would draw a plus symbol

[00:22:46] at the very top of the 44 73.

[00:22:49] We would have the customer fill it out online

[00:22:52] or we would have them fill it out in person, either way,

[00:22:55] whatever they want to do, like or fill it out online on the computer

[00:22:57] in front of them and then we print it out.

[00:22:59] Right. So we put that plus sign up top.

[00:23:03] The the person working behind the counter that is doing the sale,

[00:23:07] they would check the 44 73 make sure the address is correct,

[00:23:10] make sure the driver's license is correct, make sure the

[00:23:13] serial number is correct on the firearms.

[00:23:14] That's the biggest thing, dude.

[00:23:16] If that serial number is incorrect for the gun that you just sent out,

[00:23:20] that's a problem because you just sent out a gun that hasn't,

[00:23:24] you know, you don't know where it went. Right?

[00:23:26] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:23:27] And then the next thing you'll want to make sure of is that their address

[00:23:30] is correct and that they actually had a background check. OK.

[00:23:35] Some guys have actually skipped the background check and just sent them

[00:23:38] out the door.

[00:23:39] It happened when I was there on Black Friday.

[00:23:43] And it was actually a nice, you know, cute little old lady and she bought

[00:23:47] I kid you not a massive Ruger 44 Magnum.

[00:23:52] Exactly which model was, but it was a big old revolver.

[00:23:54] Go granny.

[00:23:55] This is freaking cool.

[00:23:57] So we had to call her.

[00:23:58] She came back.

[00:23:59] We did the background check and she was out the door,

[00:24:00] but it was it was really funny.

[00:24:02] Anyway, so we draw a plus symbol at the top.

[00:24:04] The the person working behind the counter of the customer service

[00:24:07] rep, whatever it is, he signs at the upper right hand corner of that

[00:24:10] plus symbol. OK, after he checks a forty or seventy three,

[00:24:13] then he hands it off to me, the assistant manager or one of the

[00:24:16] other managers. They sign right below his signature.

[00:24:20] And then we take it in the back.

[00:24:21] We check it again.

[00:24:22] The next person signs at the bottom left hand corner and then we

[00:24:25] hand it off to management and they signed in the upper left hand corner.

[00:24:29] So there are that goes through four people to make sure that

[00:24:31] it's proper and done right.

[00:24:34] It's very, very, very meticulous.

[00:24:37] But even at that thing still do slip through.

[00:24:40] I believe it. I believe it.

[00:24:42] Yeah, but yeah.

[00:24:44] Yeah, definitely.

[00:24:46] But if you if you if you were to get a forty four or if you were

[00:24:50] to get an FFL, you would definitely want

[00:24:54] compliance officers to work with you.

[00:24:56] You definitely would want that.

[00:24:58] But not hard, not hard, not hard to run an FFL.

[00:25:01] Just depends on if you want to have a brick and mortar shop or,

[00:25:05] you know, whatever. You could even do a CNR.

[00:25:07] That'd be cool.

[00:25:08] Well, I had had my eyes on that to vor for ever for like seven years.

[00:25:13] But so expensive, right?

[00:25:16] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:25:17] Jealous. Very jealous.

[00:25:19] It was a grand opening and yeah, they had it at like 19 Hondo.

[00:25:24] And I just could not.

[00:25:26] It was the first time I even seen it like in the store.

[00:25:29] And my husband's like, well, you got to like pick it up.

[00:25:33] You've never even held it.

[00:25:34] And I'm like, you know what happens if I pick them up?

[00:25:38] Right. Like once you pick it up, it's like a puppy.

[00:25:41] It's over. Yeah.

[00:25:42] You know, well, you've got a small frame.

[00:25:45] So the Israelis built the Tavor to be able to work with

[00:25:49] multiple different frames because they have women in their armed forces

[00:25:52] as well that actually will go out with weapons. Right.

[00:25:55] So they built it to be able to work with a lot of different people,

[00:25:57] which I'm sure is why it works so well with you.

[00:26:00] Yeah, it is like just an extension on my body.

[00:26:03] It's it's I've never ever shot a firearm that is so comfortable

[00:26:08] to use as that for me in my small frame.

[00:26:11] You know, as comfortable as that Tavor is, it is like it was made for me.

[00:26:16] It's beautiful.

[00:26:18] So I hear that they can be difficult to reload or get used to reloading.

[00:26:24] Did you find that to be the case?

[00:26:26] I didn't because I didn't train on an AR very long.

[00:26:31] So this is like my first firearm that's really, you know, not a shotgun.

[00:26:38] I'm I could shoot the heck out of my shotgun.

[00:26:40] That is my bread and butter and like a 22 rifle for small game hunting.

[00:26:45] Otherwise, when I was hunting deer, I hunt with a bow and, you know,

[00:26:49] then I was shooting trap and stuff like that.

[00:26:51] So I never really had a rifle system in my hands to train with.

[00:26:55] We do have an AR and I've shot it, you know, quite a few times,

[00:26:58] but it's not like it was ingrained in me yet.

[00:27:01] Right. So it was really easy for me to just this is where everything is.

[00:27:06] I do find that sometimes because the there's the button on the bottom,

[00:27:10] which is your it closes the slide mechanism and all that.

[00:27:14] Bull release, yeah.

[00:27:15] The bolt release, right.

[00:27:16] Um, you sometimes accidentally hit that because of where it is.

[00:27:20] Right? Yeah, sure.

[00:27:22] But that's the only thing that I've found with it.

[00:27:23] Like I've gotten my finger pretty good because that slide, like hit it,

[00:27:27] you know, because I accidentally hit the bolt release.

[00:27:30] So are you running five, five, six, three or black?

[00:27:33] Okay. Five, five, six out of it.

[00:27:35] That's the only difference between you and me.

[00:27:37] I would have, I would have grabbed the 300 black pop the can on there

[00:27:40] and probably set it up with one of those Timmy triggers, but that's just me.

[00:27:44] I can't help myself.

[00:27:45] That is all Greek.

[00:27:47] Come on now.

[00:27:48] You can't go into a gun language, like modified, like super gun language.

[00:27:53] I would, I would have put a modified trigger, trigger pack in it.

[00:27:56] That's the Timney and I would have, I would have thrown a suppressor on the front of it.

[00:28:00] Oh, OK.

[00:28:01] And I would use 300 blackout as the caliber because 300 blackouts

[00:28:05] great for suppressed or supersonic either way, you're good.

[00:28:09] Or rather subsonic or because it'll do the five, five, six or two, two, three.

[00:28:13] Either way. Oh yeah.

[00:28:14] But yeah, yeah.

[00:28:15] And it's a 16, 16 inch barrel, which I also like

[00:28:20] rather than the longer, longer system, because when it hangs down in front of me,

[00:28:25] it's not long to.

[00:28:26] Yes, it's not bumping around.

[00:28:28] No.

[00:28:31] That's a height joke.

[00:28:32] Yeah, I know. It's cool.

[00:28:34] I'll take it from Tim.

[00:28:35] He's up there in the clouds.

[00:28:37] Well, he's five foot four.

[00:28:38] So I know he's a short guy.

[00:28:40] He can hang. He can hang.

[00:28:42] He's allegedly five foot four.

[00:28:44] Allegedly.

[00:28:46] What got you so into firearms to begin with?

[00:28:51] Well, I. OK, so when I was seven years old,

[00:28:56] I remember my dad had a 22 and I always wanted to shoot it.

[00:29:00] But we went out to

[00:29:03] I went out to California and my dad's

[00:29:07] my dad's family.

[00:29:09] They had a whole bunch of agriculture out there.

[00:29:13] So we were able to go out into the fields and shoot all these different guns

[00:29:16] when I was little.

[00:29:17] And I just remember really enjoying shooting.

[00:29:21] I believe it was a M16A1 that somebody had out there and I just loved it.

[00:29:29] So when we got back, I asked my parents.

[00:29:32] I remember how I think it was age seven or something like that.

[00:29:35] Years old. I know a single digit.

[00:29:36] And I was like, can I have a subscription to that magazine?

[00:29:39] I pointed to guns and ammo.

[00:29:42] And that was back when you could get a subscription to things, you know,

[00:29:44] and get in the mail.

[00:29:46] Now, you just get on your stupid phone.

[00:29:48] But all right.

[00:29:51] So they got me a subscription to guns and ammo.

[00:29:54] Needless to say, it was not a good idea to take those magazines to school

[00:29:57] with you when I was.

[00:29:58] Oh, yeah.

[00:30:02] Then after that, I got a subscription to Soldier of Fortune,

[00:30:06] which was another fun magazine I just love to read.

[00:30:10] And when I was little,

[00:30:13] I always loved watching those Rambo movies and, you know,

[00:30:16] Delta 4s and all those movies.

[00:30:18] I'm like, you know, I wasn't really super concerned with the guys

[00:30:21] that were behind the guns.

[00:30:22] What I was looking at is how do those guns operate?

[00:30:26] How does that work?

[00:30:28] I don't understand how this turns this way.

[00:30:32] That pulls that something comes out the other side.

[00:30:35] How does that work?

[00:30:37] And of course, when you're a little person, you know, you're just a little guy.

[00:30:40] You don't understand how the mechanics are working, you know?

[00:30:43] So it was kind of a lifelong fascination.

[00:30:46] You know, I from from the time I was gosh, I want to say 16.

[00:30:52] I own my own guns, you know, various different things from Mothford

[00:30:57] five nineties to original Chinese AK-47s, you know, back when they were

[00:31:02] still $199.

[00:31:05] Oh, I miss those days.

[00:31:07] $70 spam cans, $760 by 39.

[00:31:09] Where are you at?

[00:31:10] And anybody out there in the audience, $79 spam cans, cheaper than dirt, remember?

[00:31:17] I'm crying a little bit.

[00:31:21] Yeah, yeah, man, it's just it's been a lifelong fascination for me.

[00:31:26] I think some people have like a a whooby, you know, and I have

[00:31:30] security blanket for me.

[00:31:32] It's it's made of steel and aluminum.

[00:31:34] I don't know. Yeah, it's just the way it is for me.

[00:31:37] I just love guns, man.

[00:31:38] I love them.

[00:31:39] And that's what I've told my kids.

[00:31:40] I named my Tavor Teddy and then Teddy like sleeps with me and I'm like,

[00:31:47] yeah, this was my my third child.

[00:31:49] So I'm willing everything to Teddy.

[00:31:52] My kids are like, shut up.

[00:31:55] Have you put a light on it yet?

[00:31:57] No, I haven't.

[00:31:58] I have it.

[00:31:59] Oh, I gotta get a light.

[00:32:00] I know, I got chicken expansion to do and I got a greenhouse to put up.

[00:32:04] So OK.

[00:32:06] And technically, I was out of rotation when I got Teddy, like so my husband

[00:32:11] and I have a system.

[00:32:13] He gets a gun.

[00:32:14] I get a gun.

[00:32:16] He gets a gun.

[00:32:17] I get a gun.

[00:32:17] And it's usually like he gets a gun.

[00:32:20] I get a gun.

[00:32:21] I get a gun.

[00:32:24] He gets a gun.

[00:32:25] I get.

[00:32:26] So.

[00:32:29] So now technically he's up on the docket for like gear and we have to gear up.

[00:32:35] And but no, keep bothering me about it, like sending me stuff.

[00:32:39] I'll actually I still need to get the proper like cleaner.

[00:32:42] There's the one brush that I want.

[00:32:44] That's like the snake one that goes through it all the way.

[00:32:47] And I don't know that one.

[00:32:48] Yeah, the Borsig.

[00:32:49] Yeah.

[00:32:50] The Borsig are nice, man.

[00:32:52] I was looking at cleaning kits and then I was like, oh, look

[00:32:55] OK, here's the pistol grip and here's the the front grip for it.

[00:33:00] And here's all night.

[00:33:01] I got to buy the pickadilly's for it.

[00:33:03] And I got so I got all distracted.

[00:33:06] And then I was like, I can't spend all this money.

[00:33:08] I'm out. I'm out.

[00:33:09] I just had to abandon ship and leave all together.

[00:33:14] So yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's cool to run board

[00:33:19] bore snakes and stuff like that.

[00:33:20] You know, as long as you as long as you're occasionally doing a deep

[00:33:24] cleaning, you're fine.

[00:33:25] Right. And that's what with the Tavor like the it's hard to get into that

[00:33:30] side mechanism, so it's even more important to have the bore snake for it

[00:33:35] because everything is so tight.

[00:33:36] Right. So yeah.

[00:33:39] Israeli manufacturers.

[00:33:40] What are you going to do?

[00:33:41] Yeah.

[00:33:42] It was built with with, you know, pretty strict tolerances.

[00:33:45] I'd love to see what their tolerance levels are because with AR 15,

[00:33:50] your plus or minus five thou.

[00:33:53] And I've talked about this on my own podcast before, but the reason

[00:33:58] that sometimes you'll get an AR 15 that some parts won't quite work with it

[00:34:02] or you'll find there's any other accuracy issues or it won't quite cycle.

[00:34:06] Right. Being that the it's because of the AR 15 or the M 16 or whatever

[00:34:12] you want to go with they are like I said, they're plus or minus five

[00:34:16] thou or point zero zero five thousandth of an inch.

[00:34:20] Okay. So when I say plus or minus, that can

[00:34:23] mean that one company is making their parts at spec at minus five

[00:34:27] thousands. And then you've got another company making parts at spec at plus

[00:34:33] five thousands and you try to put those two companies parts together, you

[00:34:36] know, Frankenstein, something together and you end up with parts

[00:34:41] that are 10,000th of an inch out of spec.

[00:34:44] Right. And that's why they will malfunction.

[00:34:46] So but you can you can work around that.

[00:34:48] You can work around that.

[00:34:49] There is a lot you can do with with ARs now.

[00:34:52] You can find you pretty much diagnose the problem and figure it out.

[00:34:55] Yeah. Crazy.

[00:34:58] Yeah, definitely. Parts.

[00:35:01] So yeah.

[00:35:02] So I totally went off on a tangent there.

[00:35:05] But yeah, so I worked in the I worked in the that Sporting Goods

[00:35:09] Retail Store for a while and then I don't know man.

[00:35:13] I just kind of started.

[00:35:15] I mean, I was still doing gunsmithing on the side while I was working there,

[00:35:17] but I couldn't use it.

[00:35:18] I couldn't do gunsmithing for any of the customers there because of

[00:35:21] liability and stuff like that.

[00:35:22] Right.

[00:35:25] But they're just I don't know, I just felt this like this poll, you know,

[00:35:30] I don't know a lot of people that lose my pockets, you know, I'm Christian.

[00:35:33] I felt this like poll that.

[00:35:36] I mean, you're helping people, but you're not really helping people.

[00:35:39] Right. You know, you're helping their guns run really well.

[00:35:41] You're helping people by selling them guns and ammo,

[00:35:44] but you're not really helping, you know.

[00:35:48] So I got an opportunity to go work at a mental health place,

[00:35:55] a behavioral health facility and I took it.

[00:35:59] I took it and now I'm what they would call a care coordinator

[00:36:03] at the place that I work and I love it.

[00:36:07] I really, really do.

[00:36:09] I was just floored when you told me that I was like, dude,

[00:36:13] deep respect to you for doing that because.

[00:36:18] Like I was telling you the green room, mental health is literally

[00:36:22] one of our biggest problems.

[00:36:23] I don't think all of our technology and our cell phones, this is literally

[00:36:27] like the biggest social experiment ever.

[00:36:29] And I don't think it's working.

[00:36:32] You know, it's not.

[00:36:33] And it's not.

[00:36:37] And then even things like we've we've been talking a lot lately about like,

[00:36:40] OK, so this is also a social experiment as far as like how many women are

[00:36:44] on birth control and all of the pharmaceuticals that are being pumped

[00:36:48] through everybody's blood and all of the things are food supply being

[00:36:53] the way it is as these national brands with the product additives and things like that.

[00:36:58] This is all like a really big experiment breaking away from thousands of years

[00:37:04] of, you know, existence of humanity to this new

[00:37:09] supposedly advanced living.

[00:37:13] And I don't think it's working like it is not sustainable, in my opinion.

[00:37:19] Well, if you look and I can give you the studies and I can show

[00:37:24] it, I can tell you from frontline, you know, in the trenches experience,

[00:37:29] we are, you know, quote unquote more progressive than ever.

[00:37:33] Our country, our world, right?

[00:37:35] We're freer than ever, quote unquote, right?

[00:37:38] But more people are killing themselves than ever.

[00:37:41] Yeah, more people are doing drugs than ever before.

[00:37:45] More people are overdosing than ever before.

[00:37:47] More people expressed that they are hopeless,

[00:37:50] more depression than ever in our entire history of this country of humanity.

[00:37:58] And we have a whole lot less people

[00:38:01] believing in Jesus our savior and the Lord above.

[00:38:04] Right, right. 100 percent agree with you.

[00:38:07] Now the church is looked at as a negative.

[00:38:11] You know, people don't want to hear it.

[00:38:13] People don't look at it as a positive thing.

[00:38:16] They see Christianity or they see religion even.

[00:38:19] I don't believe Christianity is a religion, but they see any religious

[00:38:24] stuff as evil instead of good.

[00:38:27] Right. A control method.

[00:38:29] And it's like, no, no.

[00:38:31] You'll free yourself more than you know.

[00:38:34] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:38:36] More than you can even.

[00:38:37] Yeah, like when you feel the Lord's hand in yours,

[00:38:41] you're free from everything that men could possibly bring upon you.

[00:38:47] So it's actually exactly the opposite because I'm really anti-authoritarian

[00:38:51] and I've had people ask me that before, like, how can you like

[00:38:55] balk at every authority yet?

[00:38:57] You, you know, give yourself to the Lord.

[00:39:00] And I'm like, because that's exactly it.

[00:39:01] I chose to give myself to the Lord.

[00:39:05] Well, it's always been government against God.

[00:39:07] It's always been that way, right?

[00:39:09] It's always been that way since Jezebel and Ahab went after the prophets

[00:39:15] of Israel and shut down all the biblical Bible schools.

[00:39:19] And then it was up to Elijah to take out all those freaking prophets of Baal.

[00:39:23] You know, they're there's so much there that, you know,

[00:39:28] and people when they know, when they bow down to the government

[00:39:30] to do what the government says, you know, they'll quote, you know,

[00:39:33] Peter or Paul, you know, they'll quote them and say, well, you know,

[00:39:37] it says to submit to the government and Jesus said, give Caesar what is Caesar's.

[00:39:41] Well, what happens when, you know, the government says, well, bow down to me.

[00:39:45] You know, you remember when not when Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego,

[00:39:49] they were like, we're not bowing down to you, dude.

[00:39:51] We're not doing that.

[00:39:52] And they're like, throw them in the fiery furnace.

[00:39:55] Like, OK, that's cool.

[00:39:56] We're going to do that, you know?

[00:39:58] And that's the way it was.

[00:40:00] You know, like, you know, when, when government goes against God,

[00:40:03] you have to choose God.

[00:40:04] You know, if you're a believer, you must choose God every time, every time.

[00:40:08] And me and my wife were talking about the mark of the beast

[00:40:11] the other day and how people will basically be forced to take it

[00:40:17] or they won't be able to buy and sell.

[00:40:18] And the people who don't take it will be persecuted

[00:40:22] and how we kind of saw a preview of it during COVID, right?

[00:40:25] If you don't have your COVID pass, if you're not wearing a mask,

[00:40:27] no service.

[00:40:28] If you don't have your COVID pass, no service.

[00:40:29] So you can't fly.

[00:40:30] You can't do this.

[00:40:31] Can't that's a taste of what it's going to be like.

[00:40:35] And, you know, during that time, you know, with the mark of the beast,

[00:40:38] you don't have it on your hand or on your head.

[00:40:41] You will be hunted down and executed, you know, beheaded

[00:40:44] or whatever it is, according to Revelation.

[00:40:48] And I don't know about you, but I'll take the beheading.

[00:40:51] Right.

[00:40:51] You know, like, you're not going to get that on me, dude.

[00:40:53] I'm not going to be forced to do anything.

[00:40:55] Number one, number two, I want to go home to my Lord and Savior.

[00:40:57] So you go right ahead and you do whatever you have to do.

[00:41:00] Right.

[00:41:00] And Jesus was like, how lucky are you that you should be persecuted for me?

[00:41:04] Yep.

[00:41:04] Yeah.

[00:41:05] Absolutely.

[00:41:05] I'll take the whooping.

[00:41:06] It's cool.

[00:41:07] You know.

[00:41:07] Yeah.

[00:41:08] Bring it.

[00:41:08] Yeah.

[00:41:08] Bring it.

[00:41:09] Yeah.

[00:41:09] You know.

[00:41:10] So yeah, there's a lot there.

[00:41:13] There's a lot there.

[00:41:13] Uh, when it comes to mental health, we are, we see probably where I'm at.

[00:41:19] We see at least two or three people a day coming in for addiction,

[00:41:25] coming in for various different problems down where I work in the area where we deal with addiction.

[00:41:31] There's the upstairs area that they deal with all sorts of mental health problems,

[00:41:36] you know, schizophrenia, major depressive disorder, eating disorders,

[00:41:40] all kinds of different stuff.

[00:41:41] And they're seeing upwards of, you know, 15, 20 people a day that come in,

[00:41:46] fill out an intake packet, go back with somebody, do an intake,

[00:41:49] or they have to be scattered for the next day or the next week or whatever.

[00:41:53] And we're in a small town.

[00:41:54] You're just getting over.

[00:41:55] Yeah, we're just getting over run now.

[00:41:57] Imagine what is down, you know, like down in New York, New York,

[00:42:01] like in LA, wherever, you know, like you can imagine how it must be just crazy in those places.

[00:42:09] So well, that's why I wanted to talk about it because I was like, man,

[00:42:13] Lord bless you on your mission.

[00:42:14] That's just epic, you know, thank you.

[00:42:17] I'm feeling a pull and a direction myself too.

[00:42:20] And I just don't know how that financially would work out.

[00:42:24] So I don't think that God really cares about what your financial situation is like,

[00:42:29] this is what I want you to do.

[00:42:30] So we'll see where things go.

[00:42:33] No, it's funny.

[00:42:34] It's funny you mentioned that too, because when I first started at that place,

[00:42:38] I was not making enough.

[00:42:40] Like my wife was pulling in more than me.

[00:42:42] I wasn't making enough for her and I together to be able to pay our bills.

[00:42:47] And I waited, we prayed, you know, we just kind of, you know,

[00:42:50] trust in the Lord and we luckily, you know, we had our family that would help us

[00:42:54] if we needed help like new tires in the vehicle or oil change, things like that.

[00:42:59] And then finally, we got to a point where, you know, we were just really down and out

[00:43:04] and, you know, we prayed again and, you know, we're just kind of in prayer.

[00:43:09] And I started looking for a new job

[00:43:12] and my boss comes to me and she says, I need to talk to you.

[00:43:16] And I'm like, oh crap, I guess I'm going to get fired before I can find a new job.

[00:43:20] You know, like, oh my gosh.

[00:43:22] So we go in her office and she says, I didn't want to say anything until

[00:43:25] I knew for sure that it was real.

[00:43:28] And I'm like, what's real?

[00:43:29] And she goes, we just created a new position for you.

[00:43:34] And I was like, what?

[00:43:36] I was like, what are you talking about?

[00:43:37] And she goes, we created a new position for you that's going to

[00:43:40] combine what you're doing now with being a care coordinator.

[00:43:43] So technically you'll be both, but your title will be care coordinator.

[00:43:47] And we're going to raise your pay about six dollars an hour up from what you're at right now.

[00:43:52] Amen. Amen. Right?

[00:43:54] Huh?

[00:43:56] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:43:58] When you're on the right path, you're going to get the rewards for it.

[00:44:01] That's for sure.

[00:44:02] Yeah. And that was a job that had never been created there before.

[00:44:06] No one had ever done that before.

[00:44:08] They just did it.

[00:44:10] Wow. You know, and I'm like, I'm like, God, it's God.

[00:44:12] It is. It is 100%.

[00:44:14] I don't know how else to describe it.

[00:44:15] Yeah, I don't know how else to describe it.

[00:44:16] Yeah.

[00:44:18] But yeah, you know, so I'm going to stick with that.

[00:44:20] You know, that one night you're like, oh, no, I'm going to be up all night with this dude.

[00:44:25] You know, I can't get the lines done.

[00:44:26] And I was just like, don't even worry about the lines.

[00:44:29] Oh my gosh.

[00:44:30] Like, yeah.

[00:44:32] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:44:33] Yeah. I forgot about that.

[00:44:34] Yeah. Stay on your mission, bro.

[00:44:36] Don't worry about that.

[00:44:38] Like this guy always wait.

[00:44:39] Yeah.

[00:44:40] Yeah. Sometimes you don't have a choice, man.

[00:44:43] Like even when you get home, you're still working.

[00:44:45] Sometimes you're at the office late.

[00:44:47] Sometimes you'll get a call.

[00:44:48] Hey, can you come back?

[00:44:50] It's, it can be tough.

[00:44:52] It can be really tough.

[00:44:54] All right. We better get into some defensive strategy.

[00:44:58] I just really wanted to touch there because I was like, man,

[00:45:01] that that's something worth, worth letting the community know and

[00:45:05] and just blessing your mission there and pray for your success in the future.

[00:45:09] OK. So you are potentially, I want to jump into the second question

[00:45:16] that Chin came up with getting away from the mob protest while driving or walking.

[00:45:23] So that's something that we touch on quite a few times.

[00:45:25] We've had another speaker on it, but what's your general set of opinions

[00:45:31] in this situation?

[00:45:33] Well, for me, like when it comes to getting away,

[00:45:39] I carry a lot of escape innovation gear on me as it is,

[00:45:44] because I don't know what's going to happen.

[00:45:47] And now granted, when it comes to mob, it's not like they're going to

[00:45:50] like maybe they will like what what what do you carry?

[00:45:54] That's there's there's two companies specifically that I buy gear from.

[00:45:59] Oh, actually three.

[00:46:01] There is searpick.com and there is Oscar Delta dot co dot UK.

[00:46:07] And then there is Shomertek.

[00:46:10] I've talked about, I believe all three of them on my podcast before,

[00:46:15] but there is I don't want to say exactly where everything is on my body.

[00:46:21] But I have escape innovation.

[00:46:23] It would not matter if I was naked.

[00:46:24] I have escape innovation gear on me.

[00:46:27] Well, let's just put it that way.

[00:46:28] Would not. Yeah.

[00:46:30] It would not matter.

[00:46:32] I'm prepared for that too.

[00:46:34] That being said, if you need to get away,

[00:46:37] it depends on what we're talking about, what I mean.

[00:46:39] What do you mean by getting away?

[00:46:41] Am I being held captive or am I just surrounded by idiots?

[00:46:46] You know, let's go with surrounded by idiots.

[00:46:48] surrounded by idiots.

[00:46:49] Yeah. OK.

[00:46:51] So the the first thing for me is prevention.

[00:46:55] OK, when it comes to things like that,

[00:46:57] don't get surrounded by idiots to begin with.

[00:47:00] Well, even more than that, look like one of the idiots, right?

[00:47:03] If I know I'm rolling through some Antifa, you know,

[00:47:06] a ridden area, you better believe on me dressed in black block.

[00:47:09] You know what I'm saying?

[00:47:10] So I look like one of those morons.

[00:47:12] You know, I'm going to look like them.

[00:47:15] Right? It's the same thing you do when you go into a hostile country.

[00:47:18] You look like the locals.

[00:47:19] You act like the locals and you do everything they do.

[00:47:23] Right.

[00:47:25] I think that's one of your best lines of defense is to not be noticed.

[00:47:29] Right.

[00:47:30] Because cops are going to be immediately attacked.

[00:47:33] Anybody with a, you know, we the people or any kind of gun stickers on their

[00:47:36] vehicle, they're going to immediately be attacked.

[00:47:39] My vehicle is completely stickerless.

[00:47:42] So that's another way that I would, you know, completely stay under radar.

[00:47:48] My wife drives a big lifted truck.

[00:47:50] I don't.

[00:47:51] I want my vehicle to look like any other vehicle in the road.

[00:47:55] Yeah, I have a gray Dodge Caravan.

[00:47:57] So it's pretty like perfect.

[00:47:59] Yeah, that's perfect.

[00:48:00] That looks like, you know, soccer mom, anybody else, you know,

[00:48:03] no big deal, right?

[00:48:04] Yeah.

[00:48:05] But do you know the amount of storage in the floor of that thing?

[00:48:07] It's amazing. Oh yeah.

[00:48:09] It's an awesome thing.

[00:48:11] But as far as if I was kind of in that situation where I find myself

[00:48:16] you know, heading into that area and I'm like made a wrong turn, let's say.

[00:48:19] OK.

[00:48:22] I think for me, and this may sound a little bit wacky to people, but

[00:48:27] I'm going to usually in my vehicle, I've got two different forms

[00:48:32] of pepper spray. OK.

[00:48:35] I don't know if your listeners know this, but there's technically

[00:48:39] about three different types of pepper spray.

[00:48:41] OK. You've got the stream, you know, like a squirt gun type of pepper spray.

[00:48:46] Then you've got the one that's kind of like a spray, if you will,

[00:48:49] like a, you know, when you're spraying the windows with Windex,

[00:48:52] you know, kind of kind of a cone effect, right?

[00:48:55] And then the third one is one of the ones that I carry in.

[00:48:58] It's generally used for animal control, right?

[00:49:00] But it's kind of a fogger, right?

[00:49:02] So you'll see those for like bear, they're called bear spray.

[00:49:05] Yep, bear spray goes like 30 feet. Yeah.

[00:49:08] Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it goes like 30 feet and they can be kind of

[00:49:12] like a fogging effect to it, if you will, or kind of like a big,

[00:49:15] you know, misting effect, right?

[00:49:17] I like to carry the squirt type and the fogger type.

[00:49:22] OK, I carry both.

[00:49:23] Now, one is obviously for, you know, point and shoot, right?

[00:49:27] Point and squirt, if you will.

[00:49:28] Don't take that the wrong way.

[00:49:31] And one is for, you know, direct, you know, shot, right?

[00:49:35] Directly to the eyes, if you will.

[00:49:37] The other one is for crowds, if you will, right?

[00:49:40] So if you've got a bunch of people around you, you can send that

[00:49:43] fogger out all the way around you, dude, and get them to leave you alone,

[00:49:46] right? And you know you're about to deploy that, you know?

[00:49:51] Some other stuff like I don't, you know, I don't want to say

[00:49:55] exactly, you know, everything I would do in that situation.

[00:49:59] But it depends on how close they're going to get, right?

[00:50:02] Like I don't care if you yell at me.

[00:50:04] I don't care if you scream at me.

[00:50:05] I don't care about any of that stuff.

[00:50:07] What I'm going to be paying attention to is the people that are with me

[00:50:11] that may need to be protected.

[00:50:13] And there will be a point if I feel that those people,

[00:50:17] if their lives are in danger, that I'm going to do whatever I have

[00:50:20] to do to protect them.

[00:50:22] The other thing that I would make sure of when I'm driving

[00:50:26] in any area like that is I would make sure I have a truck gun.

[00:50:31] And I don't, you know, I don't condone anyone hurting anyone.

[00:50:34] OK. But you don't know what you're about to face.

[00:50:39] Right. OK.

[00:50:40] If you hear that there are protests going on in the area that you live,

[00:50:43] you might want to be sure that you can get out of there.

[00:50:47] Some of those videos have been horrific, like the old man

[00:50:50] that was pulled out of his truck and they just beat him senseless.

[00:50:53] Yeah, for no reason, I'm sure.

[00:50:55] You know, but what what I would do if I were you in that case is

[00:51:00] I would look at the same thing in police.

[00:51:01] Do it's called escalation of force.

[00:51:03] Right. So you go from, you know, like let's let's just use pepper spray.

[00:51:08] First, you start with pepper spray, then you go up to your if you have a baton

[00:51:11] or something like that, you go up to that.

[00:51:14] And then you make if you had a taser, you go up to a taser.

[00:51:16] If you're a cop or something like that and then you go up to fire.

[00:51:20] Right.

[00:51:22] Me personally, you know, being a civilian,

[00:51:24] I'm not obligated to run through the entire escalation of force.

[00:51:28] Of course, before pepper spray late to you.

[00:51:30] Yeah, exact kind of time period.

[00:51:32] Yeah, exactly. Right.

[00:51:34] So the other thing to keep in mind

[00:51:39] is having heavily tinted windows so they can't see inside your vehicle.

[00:51:45] The other thing I would do is the lights inside your vehicle.

[00:51:48] You know, the dash has lights inside the vehicle.

[00:51:51] I would turn those lights way down

[00:51:53] so they can't see who you are.

[00:51:55] That makes a big difference.

[00:51:57] And people people being able to see inside your car, assuming it's at night.

[00:52:00] Interesting.

[00:52:01] Yeah. If it's not at night, then, well,

[00:52:04] you know, you're just going to have to deal with that.

[00:52:06] The other thing windows work there.

[00:52:08] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:52:09] The other thing you might want to consider in a case like that

[00:52:15] is just having some way to get people to kind of step back

[00:52:20] from your vehicle other than the pepper spray or the fogger or whatever like that.

[00:52:25] Right.

[00:52:27] I've seen and, you know, you can kind of play with this yourself,

[00:52:30] but road flares are surprisingly helpful when someone comes up to your vehicle.

[00:52:34] You light one of those and poke them with it.

[00:52:36] They really don't want to play anymore.

[00:52:40] So that's something to consider.

[00:52:42] Right. Yeah.

[00:52:43] Keep in mind if someone has a Molotov cocktail

[00:52:46] that that's a dangerous device.

[00:52:48] You are, you know, I'm not giving you any legal advice here,

[00:52:51] but that is that's class three weapon.

[00:52:53] Let's get out of here right now.

[00:52:54] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:52:56] Yeah. That's that's a tough one right there.

[00:52:59] There will be a time and a place to drive right through what you're seeing.

[00:53:03] Right. Yeah.

[00:53:06] And we've all seen the zombie movies

[00:53:07] where the zombies get stuck in the tires and you can't.

[00:53:13] Yes.

[00:53:13] Some of those protests have been crazy.

[00:53:15] And then I was, you know, like, what do you do?

[00:53:18] You drive through people or do you not?

[00:53:20] And I would think it would have to have to deal with the threat level there.

[00:53:24] Right. Right. Right.

[00:53:26] You're always going to want to remember that you're being filmed.

[00:53:29] OK. So if you do have to drive over someone,

[00:53:34] if you do have to drive over a few people,

[00:53:36] do it as gently as possible.

[00:53:38] Well, no. Yeah.

[00:53:40] No. Initially, you want to show every possibility

[00:53:44] that you were trying to be peaceful, you were trying to be peaceful.

[00:53:47] You tried to get away and you couldn't.

[00:53:50] Yeah. OK.

[00:53:51] That is huge.

[00:53:52] It's huge to be able to show a jury that you tried to get away.

[00:53:56] I don't, you know, you could look at someone like Kyle Rittenhouse.

[00:54:00] He ran.

[00:54:01] He ran and ran and ran and when he couldn't run anymore and they attacked him.

[00:54:05] That is when he protected himself. Right.

[00:54:08] So, yeah, it is just, you know, always, always keep in mind,

[00:54:12] you are going to be on film.

[00:54:13] You have to keep those those things in mind. Right.

[00:54:19] Yeah, I think I think that would be a thing.

[00:54:21] Some some people talk about using like less than lethal rounds

[00:54:24] and you're in like a shotgun or something like that.

[00:54:27] I don't believe in using like multiple loads or, you know,

[00:54:31] like a mixed load inside of a shotgun.

[00:54:34] I think that that is.

[00:54:36] If you're already there, then it's time to time to play.

[00:54:40] It's not, you know, if you're already at that level,

[00:54:43] then you need to be using your firearm for a reason.

[00:54:46] That was one of the things like my survival instructor was like,

[00:54:50] people are going to think like if it's a home invasion,

[00:54:53] people are going to think that a woman won't pull the trigger.

[00:54:55] So you pull the trigger like right now.

[00:54:58] You just do. Absolutely. No hesitation.

[00:55:00] Yeah, no hesitating. Right.

[00:55:02] So that's when I was like, OK, well, it's on that.

[00:55:06] It also depends on the situation you're in to, like, is it SHTF?

[00:55:10] Or is it like just a protest? Right.

[00:55:12] Because there are there are websites and there are even some police

[00:55:16] departments that will give you a printout of the protests in your area.

[00:55:21] So you'll know what to avoid.

[00:55:24] You can look up websites, find out where they're going to be,

[00:55:27] where they might migrate to.

[00:55:29] You can check the weather.

[00:55:30] You can check all all that different stuff.

[00:55:32] And if you know where those protests are going to be

[00:55:34] and about the area they're going to be in,

[00:55:36] you're going to want to look up multiple escape routes from that area.

[00:55:41] You know what I'm saying? How about if it's SHTF?

[00:55:43] What are you doing to scout a route that you need to travel down?

[00:55:48] I am going to come up with at least three different routes

[00:55:51] that I'm going to roll through, OK, or potentially four.

[00:55:55] OK, I'm a big fan of pace planning, right?

[00:55:58] Primary alternate contingency emergency.

[00:56:02] It depends on the area that I'm rolling through.

[00:56:04] Sometimes you can't really come up with all of those.

[00:56:08] But for me, I'm going to have at least three or four routes, at least.

[00:56:13] OK, but the problem, especially nowadays,

[00:56:16] you know, without us memorizing our own phone numbers anymore,

[00:56:20] the problem is when people don't can't memorize those routes, right?

[00:56:25] So you'll want to kind of keep that in mind

[00:56:28] and try to memorize those routes

[00:56:30] and you're going to want to drive them ahead of time if you can.

[00:56:34] OK, drive those routes ahead of time if you can.

[00:56:37] And furthermore, if you can drive those routes ahead of time,

[00:56:40] I would suggest you cash some gear along those routes

[00:56:44] if you can, right?

[00:56:46] Pop some gas somewhere around those routes, maybe some extra ammo,

[00:56:51] some extra food and water.

[00:56:53] I believe military guys call those like resupply bag like that.

[00:56:58] I could be going to call them speed bags or speed balls, something like that.

[00:57:02] They'll just they'll get those bags

[00:57:04] and they'll be able to get all the resupply they need out of them,

[00:57:06] you know, generally it's like a duffel bag full of gear, right?

[00:57:10] So that's something to keep in mind when you're rolling through a route.

[00:57:14] The other thing to keep in mind when it comes to routes

[00:57:17] is being able to get through an obstacle quickly, right?

[00:57:21] So let's say a tree has felled in the area that you're in.

[00:57:25] You know, you plan on going down this road, there's a tree that's been felled.

[00:57:29] You have a couple of options there, right?

[00:57:31] So like if you have a winch on your vehicle, if you have, I don't know,

[00:57:35] maybe you have an axe with you in your survival kit, right?

[00:57:38] Maybe you have a maybe you have a chainsaw.

[00:57:40] Maybe you have some very simple options or you have to back up and get out of there.

[00:57:45] Now, if you are dealing with something more like

[00:57:50] like an ambush in that area, then that's a whole other story, right?

[00:57:54] When when it comes to, if I remember correctly,

[00:57:57] military doctrine and even like bodyguard executive protection type stuff.

[00:58:02] When it comes to the vehicle, they say, never stop moving.

[00:58:07] OK, right?

[00:58:08] If if I know that the things are getting really, really bad.

[00:58:12] And if I can afford it, OK, keyword, if I can afford it,

[00:58:16] I'm going to see about getting run flats on my vehicle,

[00:58:18] especially if that's the vehicle that I'm going to be taking everywhere.

[00:58:21] Right. So that's the might may or may not be an option for you.

[00:58:25] OK, I don't want everybody to go, OK, Dane said, go get a bunch of run flat tires.

[00:58:29] We're going to be fine.

[00:58:30] You know, no, it doesn't work that way.

[00:58:31] But, you know, it's one extra possibility, right?

[00:58:35] Yeah. And the more like you can stack in your favor, the better.

[00:58:38] So I mean, it's not a good T that's going to be a good situation ever.

[00:58:42] But the more you can stack in your favor, the better.

[00:58:45] Yeah. And the other thing too, when you're when you're scouting out those

[00:58:48] routes, you're not going to want to do that by yourself. OK.

[00:58:52] That was good.

[00:58:52] We have a lot. Yeah.

[00:58:54] I mean, we have like a lot of tech now, a lot of technology that you can use to your

[00:58:58] advantage. If I were doing this myself, I would definitely be scouting.

[00:59:04] Like I said, multiple directions that I can get out of there.

[00:59:07] But if if you're smart, you're going to have somebody that you trust

[00:59:11] or even someone you love, like your husband or wife, scout it out as well.

[00:59:15] You know, kind of give them the parameters, give them, you know,

[00:59:17] where the destination and tell them, you know, this is what I'm thinking.

[00:59:21] What are you thinking?

[00:59:22] But don't tell them every route.

[00:59:23] Tell them the primary route you're going to go for.

[00:59:26] See if they come up with any other ones, right?

[00:59:28] Because everybody can miss something. Yeah.

[00:59:30] Nobody's perfect, right?

[00:59:32] Yeah. And that helps keep an open mind on everything.

[00:59:35] Yeah. And then keep in mind when you're rolling through, when you're trying

[00:59:38] to, you know, go through any area or move through some sort of a route,

[00:59:43] you're going to want to go on a convoy.

[00:59:44] Do not ever go by yourself if you can avoid it.

[00:59:47] Always go at the convoy, right?

[00:59:49] I don't know if you guys heard that show that I did on convoy operations.

[00:59:54] But having multiple vehicles, you know, you've got the lead vehicle,

[00:59:59] you've got the, I don't know what you call the executive protection vehicle.

[01:00:03] Kind of in the middle of sea, you got five vehicles, right?

[01:00:05] You got two gun trucks up front.

[01:00:07] You got your lead vehicle gun truck.

[01:00:08] You got your middle gun truck and then the very middle vehicle,

[01:00:12] you know, the third one back.

[01:00:13] That's going to be all your high value subjects in there,

[01:00:17] you know, your VIPs if you will, maybe your kids.

[01:00:20] Yeah, your kids or some people, anyone whose wife is not real

[01:00:25] burst in a weapon or maybe husband who's not real super versed in weaponry

[01:00:28] or maybe they're a nurse, maybe they're a doctor and you really need to keep them alive.

[01:00:32] Right? Yes.

[01:00:33] Yeah. Right.

[01:00:34] And then the rear, the vehicle right behind that one is generally going to

[01:00:38] be your logistics vehicle potentially.

[01:00:40] And the one right behind that will in maybe have the doctor in there,

[01:00:43] but that'll be your medical vehicle.

[01:00:44] Right. And then if you have the ability to, you have one more gun truck behind that.

[01:00:48] Right? So you roll with the right amount of people and the right amount

[01:00:52] of vehicles and the right amount of logistics to make sure that you get

[01:00:55] there safely.

[01:00:56] Okay. That is kind of the doctor that I'm running with.

[01:01:01] I don't know.

[01:01:02] Yeah, I love that.

[01:01:04] Do it differently.

[01:01:04] But because everybody's like, oh, my family, my this, my that, my this.

[01:01:08] And I came to the realization a long time ago that like,

[01:01:12] you really can't do it like just your family, especially just your family.

[01:01:17] Cause like even just playing airsoft once my son, especially my youngest son,

[01:01:23] once he is on the game board, like a part of my brain is not there anymore.

[01:01:28] And that's dangerous.

[01:01:29] That's dangerous for me.

[01:01:30] That's dangerous for everybody.

[01:01:32] You know?

[01:01:33] So obviously that's a personal thing that I've overcome.

[01:01:36] But I don't know if that's possible as a mother, you know, like.

[01:01:40] Yeah, you're so obligated to protect them.

[01:01:42] Yeah.

[01:01:43] So what it puts me at greater risk.

[01:01:45] So, you know, being able to have that community where you're like, okay,

[01:01:49] they're taking care of here.

[01:01:52] Um, and I don't have to put that on my brain.

[01:01:54] I just have to take care of my mission objective.

[01:01:56] That's all about having people in a group that you trust.

[01:01:59] And so you can't do it just the family that's not going to work or

[01:02:03] Lauren lone wolf.

[01:02:04] I mean, that's not.

[01:02:05] No, it won't.

[01:02:07] Not advantageous.

[01:02:09] It really won't.

[01:02:09] You're right.

[01:02:10] Um, and that's, that's a great thing about, uh, purple broadcasting is

[01:02:14] technically we have a, we have a rather large team of people that we

[01:02:17] could bring to bear in a situation like that if we needed to.

[01:02:21] Um, and we would have plenty of vehicles to handle all kinds of

[01:02:25] different stuff and we have plenty of people that can handle all kinds

[01:02:27] of different stuff.

[01:02:29] Um, but having people you can trust is huge, right?

[01:02:33] Yeah.

[01:02:34] And keep in mind when you've got those kind of, um, you know,

[01:02:36] moving through an area or taking a route or scouting a route ahead of time

[01:02:40] or whatever you want to do there, right?

[01:02:42] Um, that scouting a route ahead of time also comes into what's, uh,

[01:02:45] something called an area study.

[01:02:47] You guys heard of this?

[01:02:49] Okay.

[01:02:50] So doing an area study is actually absolutely paramount.

[01:02:54] Okay.

[01:02:55] And if any of your listeners don't know how to do an area study, um, go

[01:02:59] online, go to YouTube and look up a guy named forward observer.

[01:03:04] Okay.

[01:03:05] Forward observer.

[01:03:06] Uh, Mike is amazing at doing the whole area study thing.

[01:03:10] Right?

[01:03:12] Yeah.

[01:03:12] Cheney just did a class on his, didn't you?

[01:03:15] Yeah.

[01:03:15] He just had a, uh, three night hour night class he did online and he's

[01:03:23] got a couple of books out.

[01:03:24] He's out of prepper camp.

[01:03:26] He was out of prepper camp last year.

[01:03:29] He's, he is.

[01:03:30] I mean, he's got books.

[01:03:31] He's got two books on it, which are invaluable.

[01:03:34] I mean, everybody thinks, you know, these bullets and, and, uh,

[01:03:37] bandits, but, uh, what's the right equipment?

[01:03:41] What, what emergency are you planning for?

[01:03:44] Well, if he did an area study, it would help you understand.

[01:03:48] Yeah.

[01:03:48] Not just rushing out to the store, but actually making the proper lists of

[01:03:54] what you need for what events you think you might actually in real life

[01:03:59] come not just zombies running up, you know, across your yard.

[01:04:02] Well, yeah.

[01:04:03] And a good, a good example of that is like, what if you have a whole bunch

[01:04:06] of natural springs by your house that you didn't know about because you

[01:04:08] didn't do an area study?

[01:04:09] You wouldn't have had to stockpile so much water, dude.

[01:04:12] Fair enough.

[01:04:14] You know, I mean it's, there's so much there that people don't realize,

[01:04:18] you know, or the reverse of that.

[01:04:21] What if you didn't know that there was a train tracks that carried

[01:04:25] chemicals that ran, you know, a mile from your house and could pollute

[01:04:29] the stream upstream from here, right?

[01:04:31] Yeah.

[01:04:31] Yeah.

[01:04:32] You might want to plan for it.

[01:04:34] Um, but if you didn't do the area study, you didn't know what

[01:04:37] come, is that just a commuter rail or is that, you know, transportation

[01:04:41] of chemicals?

[01:04:42] What comes across?

[01:04:43] Yeah.

[01:04:44] Is it, you know, is there a food hub close by?

[01:04:46] Is there, is there a National Guard Armory close by?

[01:04:49] Is there, is there a prison or something?

[01:04:53] Yeah, exactly, dude.

[01:04:54] Exactly.

[01:04:55] And these are all things that go into scouting out a route, right?

[01:04:59] And then there's even, even like a, what they call stopping

[01:05:03] routes, but like a 7-Eleven or whatever that, whatever your

[01:05:06] quick stop is.

[01:05:07] A lot of things happen at night that aren't really the best thing.

[01:05:11] So is that something that's close by that could bleed into your neighborhood?

[01:05:17] Yeah.

[01:05:17] I just, I just picked up on what you said.

[01:05:19] That was funny.

[01:05:20] Stop and rob.

[01:05:21] That was, yeah.

[01:05:25] But I mean, I 100% agree with the area study.

[01:05:29] It's, it's important.

[01:05:30] You don't know what the plan for unless you study what's around you and

[01:05:34] know what your threats are.

[01:05:36] When my, when my brother lived down in Phoenix and things were starting to get

[01:05:41] bad during 2020 and all the, you know, all the rides and all that stuff.

[01:05:45] I planned for, I believe it was four routes for him to get out of where

[01:05:50] he lived in Phoenix and come up to where we were.

[01:05:54] So it pays and even being able to do an area study for those that you

[01:05:58] love will come in handy.

[01:06:01] You know, yeah.

[01:06:03] Yeah.

[01:06:03] So I have a friend in Cali that's like right by, um, it's not a nuclear

[01:06:08] plant, but they store nuclear material there and she's east of it.

[01:06:12] I'm like, and which way does the wind normally blow?

[01:06:15] Yeah.

[01:06:16] She's like east.

[01:06:16] I'm like, okay.

[01:06:17] So as soon as anything happens, you need to get the hell out of there.

[01:06:21] Like that's, that's a given now.

[01:06:24] Which direction are you going because where is everybody else going?

[01:06:27] You know, she's like, oh, yeah.

[01:06:31] So important to know those things already gain.

[01:06:33] Well, I'm already way over time because I've just been having too much fun.

[01:06:36] Um, so I've got to get into the changing earth news.

[01:06:40] We're going to just rip through it.

[01:06:41] I'm going to go into micro machine mode.

[01:06:43] Okay.

[01:06:44] Thank you so much.

[01:06:45] Yeah.

[01:06:46] Problem at all guys.

[01:06:47] I thank you for having me.

[01:06:48] I really appreciate it.

[01:06:49] Yeah.

[01:06:49] It's all absolute pleasure.

[01:06:51] Thank you both for the help with the audio drama and all that.

[01:06:54] I mean, you guys are what make that show possible.

[01:06:56] Everybody that's involved.

[01:06:57] So I can't thank all of you that, that puts your hard work into it as well enough

[01:07:02] for, for helping me make a dream come alive.

[01:07:05] We got to, we got to do the animated version, man.

[01:07:07] Could do like the archer, you know, archer.

[01:07:10] It's definitely been a topic of conversation.

[01:07:14] That's for sure.

[01:07:15] Um, there are some things that would have to change a little bit, but yeah,

[01:07:18] it's definitely been a topic of conversation.

[01:07:21] So.

[01:07:23] All right guys.

[01:07:23] Well, thank you for having me.

[01:07:24] I'll let you all go.

[01:07:25] I appreciate you.

[01:07:26] All right.

[01:07:26] Thanks, Dane.

[01:07:27] Bye guys.

[01:07:28] Hey, thank you.

[01:07:28] Thanks.

[01:07:31] Okay.

[01:07:32] So we're going to jump into some changing Earth news.

[01:07:34] I was like, oh, this is going so long.

[01:07:36] We're having so much fun in such a good conversation.

[01:07:39] So, oh wow.

[01:07:41] Here we go.

[01:07:44] Dream.

[01:07:46] Survive.

[01:07:47] Thrive.

[01:07:49] This is changing Earth news.

[01:07:55] All right, changing Earth news.

[01:07:57] Week of, uh, well today is March 24th and we have some interesting stuff going on

[01:08:05] today.

[01:08:06] Chin, you sent me over the alert, uh, right before the show.

[01:08:10] Yeah.

[01:08:11] The X class solar flare.

[01:08:14] It was released yesterday.

[01:08:17] I believe it wasn't supposed to hit till Monday, but I actually hit today.

[01:08:22] Super fast, which was actually good because it was a serious X class flare that was

[01:08:28] directly aimed at our planet.

[01:08:30] A long duration one.

[01:08:32] So there was questions of like how severe is this thing going to be?

[01:08:37] We are in a geomagnetic storm right now.

[01:08:40] We're in a class eight Kp8 storm right now.

[01:08:43] So some of the systems, if you notice some of your electronics act in funky,

[01:08:48] that's going to be definitely caused by the solar activity.

[01:08:53] Some of the more sensitive systems might go down.

[01:08:57] Of course there's spatial implications for anything that's out in space, but

[01:09:02] also multiple M class flares were released after that X class.

[01:09:06] So we're going to be keeping eyes on that, but we've already been hit with

[01:09:09] the wave of the worst of it.

[01:09:11] And this can also cause medical issues.

[01:09:16] So anybody with like heart problems, just take it easy.

[01:09:20] Anybody who's on that mental edge might be a little bit more cray-cray today,

[01:09:25] tomorrow.

[01:09:26] So keep your eyes open and just be aware that people might be on an

[01:09:31] interesting kilter because of the amount of solar activity that we're taking.

[01:09:37] As far as the weather goes, man, we've just been getting just, just

[01:09:41] sucked again and again here in the United States.

[01:09:46] And the weather people say it's just going to continue in succession till

[01:09:50] the end of the March.

[01:09:51] So batting down the hatches, guys, it'll be an interesting ride.

[01:09:56] What do they say about, isn't it March in like a lion out like a lamb?

[01:09:59] Like a lamb.

[01:10:00] Yeah.

[01:10:01] Right.

[01:10:01] So hang on tight.

[01:10:04] And for all of you who are keeping track, I actually got my gardens all in.

[01:10:10] We're good to go.

[01:10:11] And then we get a windstorm.

[01:10:12] It's like so challenging in Texas because all my starters are outside.

[01:10:18] Food, wind.

[01:10:19] I'm like, so hopefully everybody does well.

[01:10:22] We're trying, we're doing a blend this year of like container gardens and

[01:10:28] in the ground gardens and stuff.

[01:10:30] So I'll have to report on that when we have more time.

[01:10:33] All right.

[01:10:33] March 18th, 333 earthquakes over 2.0 or bigger, biggest of which was

[01:10:38] a 5.3 in the North Pacific Ocean in Japan.

[01:10:41] Ohio to Kansas was absolutely reeling from all that tornado activity we had

[01:10:46] last weekend and Texas Panhandles, 100% contained.

[01:10:53] The fires are under control on the Panhandle.

[01:10:56] As of the 18th, they were 100% contained.

[01:10:59] That's not the situation in India.

[01:11:00] They had a wildfire in Nilgiris.

[01:11:03] Several hundred acres went up.

[01:11:05] It was quite a huge, huge fire that was wrapping around that town.

[01:11:10] On the 19th of March, there was 339 earthquakes or 2.0 or bigger, biggest

[01:11:15] of which was a 5.5 in the South Pacific Ocean near New Zealand.

[01:11:19] In Dahuk, Iraq, this is northern Kurdistan.

[01:11:22] Two people died in a flood event there.

[01:11:25] They had just massive flooding and mudslides.

[01:11:28] And as I always say, the mud is almost worse when inundates your town

[01:11:31] because you're not just waiting for the water to dry.

[01:11:34] You're waiting for the...

[01:11:35] You literally have to dig yourself out.

[01:11:37] So in Peru, they had torrential rains that would left the hospital

[01:11:43] flooded and their streets destroyed.

[01:11:45] In Minnesota, the firefighters have already responded to 200 wildfires this year.

[01:11:51] So it's been actually a really dry and windy winter up north.

[01:11:56] And unseasonably warm weather at times.

[01:11:59] They're getting the extremes as we will all get the extremes.

[01:12:02] I mean, that's one of the things that's going to happen is the extremes

[01:12:05] are just going to become more extreme as the earth pushes into this polar shift.

[01:12:10] In China, thousands of firefighters battle forest in Sichuan.

[01:12:15] So this is southwestern China and it's threatening Tibetan villages.

[01:12:21] So these wildfires.

[01:12:23] On March 20th, there was 371 earthquakes that were 2.0 or bigger,

[01:12:28] biggest of which was a 5.6 in the South Atlantic Ocean near the South.

[01:12:34] Sandwich Islands.

[01:12:35] Yes, South Sandwich Islands back up.

[01:12:39] Hundreds of earthquakes have been hitting the Yellowstone area.

[01:12:43] So there's a whole bunch of different opinions on it.

[01:12:47] Ben that I listened to a lot over at Suspicious Observers.

[01:12:50] He has said that he doesn't believe Yellowstone is as big a threat.

[01:12:56] His eyes are much more on Campy Flegre, which is still on our possible eruption list.

[01:13:01] But Yellowstone has been having some severe activity over there.

[01:13:07] Also of note, Mount Vesuvius had the largest earthquake that it's had in 25 years.

[01:13:14] And if you recollect to our earthquake show about when I was talking

[01:13:18] about the prophecies of Edgar Cayce, one of his big prophecies is when Pele

[01:13:23] and Vesuvius go at the same time, watch out West Coast, the United States,

[01:13:27] specifically Nevada region.

[01:13:29] And Nevada has also been rumbling again.

[01:13:32] So it's interesting, interesting correlations there.

[01:13:37] So we got to keep our eyes on Vesuvius.

[01:13:40] Did you warn Dolores?

[01:13:43] That it's coming to Nevada?

[01:13:48] Yeah.

[01:13:50] Get your brothel together, get it packed up.

[01:13:54] Jane's like, Hey.

[01:13:58] On March 21st, there was 346 earthquakes that were 2.0 or bigger,

[01:14:03] biggest of which was a 5.2 in the South Atlantic Ocean near

[01:14:08] South sandwich islands again.

[01:14:10] Hit out twice.

[01:14:12] Hit in the list twice today.

[01:14:15] Australia getting just hit by X Tropicals, X.

[01:14:22] X Tropical Storm Megan causing 100 year flood conditions in, oh my gosh,

[01:14:29] I had, I practiced this word even.

[01:14:32] It's Boralula, but I know I said that wrong.

[01:14:36] I threw my Michigan accent on it.

[01:14:39] And they are just having extreme, extreme event, high winds, lots of

[01:14:45] destruction going on from this.

[01:14:46] And it was supposed to be an X storm and it's causing a lot more

[01:14:49] problems than they thought it was going to be.

[01:14:52] In Bolivia, they had a flooding event with a river breaking its

[01:14:56] banks, washing away vehicles, lots of rain there.

[01:14:59] And also Argentina as well getting battered by relentless

[01:15:03] rains and floods.

[01:15:05] On the 22nd of March, there was 442 earthquakes that were

[01:15:08] 2.0 or bigger, biggest of which was a 6.5 in the Java sea

[01:15:12] near Eastern Java.

[01:15:14] There has been 2,000 earthquakes near the coast of Canada.

[01:15:20] So this has got people really concerned.

[01:15:22] The scientists are concerned it's a sign of something big that's

[01:15:25] in the Pacific, whether that's going to be a big slip that

[01:15:28] happens with the faults or if there's like a volcano out

[01:15:31] there in the Pacific Ocean that we weren't previously aware of.

[01:15:37] 2,000 earthquakes is a big deal.

[01:15:39] That is a big earthquake swarm.

[01:15:41] So that's also something to keep eyes on.

[01:15:44] I do have to say that on the 22nd is the day that the concert

[01:15:50] happened in Moscow where there was the active shooter over 40

[01:15:55] people killed and I'd just like to extend prayers out for all

[01:15:58] the families involved in that horrific incident that

[01:16:02] wherever that happens, it's never a good thing.

[01:16:05] And it just seems very, very senseless.

[01:16:07] So I just wanted to make sure that we're all safe.

[01:16:10] So I just wanted to extend prayers to everybody, all the

[01:16:13] families that were dealing with the fallout of that event.

[01:16:17] In Uruguay, thousands of homes have been evacuated,

[01:16:21] hundreds homes lost in floods.

[01:16:24] Minnesota after this, so they've been having all these

[01:16:27] wildfires now they finally got a large snowstorm in but

[01:16:30] they had 175 auto wrecks due to that snowstorm.

[01:16:36] And I got to say I used to live up in Minnesota

[01:16:39] and there's some wacky.

[01:16:43] Yeah, I did live in Minnesota too.

[01:16:45] I was teaching hockey camp out there for a summer.

[01:16:49] Man, sometimes those drivers like sometimes they just stop

[01:16:52] in the middle of the highway.

[01:16:53] They're like, oh, I miss my exit.

[01:16:54] They just stop.

[01:16:55] I like go over you're like what's happening?

[01:16:58] So and you can pretty much fall asleep on Minnesota roads

[01:17:02] and like wake up and you're still going down the same road.

[01:17:07] So straight.

[01:17:08] So yeah.

[01:17:10] Especially in the wintertime with the bumpers they put up

[01:17:12] with the walls of snow, right?

[01:17:15] They literally have like signs on the side of the road

[01:17:18] for the snowmobiles that are like up way higher than the.

[01:17:21] Yeah, it's crazy.

[01:17:22] It's pretty cool.

[01:17:24] In Virginia, they've had a hundred fires in the last

[01:17:28] 48 hours on the 22nd.

[01:17:31] They had countless structures burned in Hardy County.

[01:17:35] So I don't know what's going on up there, Virginia, but we got

[01:17:39] to get our stuff together there.

[01:17:40] We got too many people we love in Virginia.

[01:17:42] So let's get that figured out.

[01:17:45] On March 23 of 2024, there was 400 earthquakes.

[01:17:51] There were 2.0 or bigger.

[01:17:52] Biggest of which was a 7.0 in Papa New Guinea.

[01:17:57] Luckily it was in a rural area that wasn't very inhabited.

[01:18:02] So not much damage report coming in, but that was a serious earthquake.

[01:18:10] A 7.0 is never something to scoff at.

[01:18:13] And some like the USGS has downgraded that to a 6.9.

[01:18:18] It's like just it's a 7.0.

[01:18:22] In New Jersey, they were struggling with a major rain event

[01:18:26] causing flooding.

[01:18:27] Maine got hit with a snowstorm.

[01:18:29] Big storm went through the whole North, Northeastern Atlantic

[01:18:35] region of the United States.

[01:18:36] So 150 people or 150,000 without power up there in Maine.

[01:18:41] And then today there was 345 earthquakes at our 2.0 or bigger.

[01:18:46] Biggest of which is a 6.1 in the Savu Sea near Indonesia.

[01:18:52] We will be on earthquake watch with all of the

[01:18:56] with all of the energy that's coming in from the X-Class Flare.

[01:19:00] So we will be having eyes open on that.

[01:19:04] And then Western Oklahoma, actually when I was doing my research,

[01:19:08] there was live tracking of tornadoes happening there.

[01:19:11] Like I said, we have the winds come in today.

[01:19:13] So up above Texas, it's tornadoes hitting stuff like that.

[01:19:18] So we'll have to keep our eyes on what's going on there.

[01:19:21] As far as volcanoes, we have 29 volcanoes actively erupting.

[01:19:25] 18 showing minor activity, 30 showing unrest.

[01:19:29] That is down one volcano for the week.

[01:19:32] But I expect an uptick there as well.

[01:19:35] We'll have to see how that plays out.

[01:19:37] As far as wildfires, we have 26 new wildfires in the United States.

[01:19:41] 18 actively burning for a total of 18,745 acres on fire.

[01:19:48] 18 of those fires are contained.

[01:19:52] In Oklahoma, they had seven new fires.

[01:19:55] Six are still active and then 7,450 acres in total burning.

[01:20:02] Seven of those are contained.

[01:20:03] That was mostly blowover from what was happening in Texas.

[01:20:07] And then in Virginia, they have nine new fires, six active,

[01:20:12] 7,414 acres on fire with only three of those fires contained.

[01:20:18] So that's interesting stuff.

[01:20:19] You don't normally see Virginia up there on the list.

[01:20:22] Also, on number three is Tennessee with one new fire,

[01:20:25] one actively burning 1,467 acres and that fire is not contained at this time.

[01:20:32] Alrighty guys.

[01:20:34] Sorry we went so far over.

[01:20:36] It's just man, I like talking with Dane.

[01:20:39] We got to get him out to prepper camp so we can all just sit around

[01:20:43] the fire and chat for a while.

[01:20:45] Right?

[01:20:47] I'm looking forward to it.

[01:20:48] I'm like on the monthly countdown.

[01:20:52] It's still, it's only like six months away now.

[01:20:57] Honestly.

[01:20:58] So I heard there was still some camp spots open.

[01:21:03] Intensity.

[01:21:05] Last I heard.

[01:21:07] So if you guys out there haven't got your tickets yet, get your tickets,

[01:21:10] get your campsite.

[01:21:12] Come on out, hang up.

[01:21:16] Alrighty, 10.

[01:21:17] It's a good, yeah.

[01:21:19] Oh, I'm exhausted from today's show.

[01:21:21] That was fun.

[01:21:23] Oh, it was great.

[01:21:24] Yeah, absolutely.

[01:21:25] Yeah, we got to have Dane on more often.

[01:21:27] Like I said, like, amen.

[01:21:29] Like, you know, people making the choices and make other people's lives

[01:21:35] better, great job.

[01:21:37] Same with you working your community.

[01:21:40] Very good stuff.

[01:21:41] I'm honored to know both of you.

[01:21:45] Alrighty guys.

[01:21:46] Dolly.

[01:21:49] I am.

[01:21:50] I'm blessed.

[01:21:51] Bless the Lord.

[01:21:52] He takes care of me, you know, gives such good people.

[01:21:55] So for every, every, uh, every time we get hurt, you know, you got

[01:22:01] to remember that there's still really, really awesome people out here.

[01:22:04] You just got to hook up with them.

[01:22:06] So.

[01:22:07] I agree.

[01:22:09] Alrighty guys.

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