EMP Preparedness Special - with Ryan from Mission Darkness

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[00:00:08] Your path back to stability here.

[00:00:13] You've got circuitry, you've got circuits and those circuits are susceptible to an EMP to an event.

[00:00:39] If you're going to fill the air with so much energy that it's going to basically fry any electronics.

[00:00:46] More specifically the ones that are plugged into the grid, but even if they're not, those gas generators still have circuits inside of them.

[00:00:59] They have boards and those can become fried and basically damaged and those will go down as well.

[00:01:04] So even a flashlight, right?

[00:01:08] Flashlight has a PCB inside of it. It's got batteries.

[00:01:13] Those are susceptible to damage.

[00:01:15] So it's kind of, it's a little bit counter-intuitive.

[00:01:18] You might think, oh, gas generator, you know, I'm fine or a gas vehicle or something like that.

[00:01:24] But in reality just about everything has a circuitry side of it.

[00:01:27] Yeah, everything's got electronics now probably too much for its own good to be honest with you.

[00:01:32] There is that feeling of helplessness that I hate when it comes to all this digital stuff.

[00:01:38] And that's what it is.

[00:01:40] It's that sort of motherboard management or electronic management that we just don't understand.

[00:01:46] And more than not understand it, you can't call your dad or your uncle and be like, you know, what's wrong with this thing, man?

[00:01:55] And they'd be like, oh, I know exactly. Well, turn it on. Let me listen to it.

[00:01:59] You know what I mean? There's nobody out there.

[00:02:01] You just got to take it to a dealer or replace it or, you know, all that kind of stuff.

[00:02:06] And that's, that's rough.

[00:02:08] So how'd you guys come up with the concept of the Costco DIY build?

[00:02:13] I love that idea.

[00:02:15] Yeah, yeah.

[00:02:17] We, because, you know, like you open this up with the DIY stuff, because we end up helping a lot of customers.

[00:02:27] I mean, we get people writing and asking how do you know I've got, I bought some new materials.

[00:02:32] I bought this stuff. How do I actually make something that works?

[00:02:35] Because I tried to make something. I put my cell phone in it to test it and the cell phone rang.

[00:02:40] So maybe I need a little guidance here.

[00:02:42] So that's happened over the years.

[00:02:44] You know, countless, countless times.

[00:02:46] So we try to help people. We try to put out YouTube videos just, you know, sort of do this step, do this step, do this step.

[00:02:54] But there's every, every enclosure is different.

[00:02:56] So people were taking our materials and making a wooden box or trying to cover a shed or something.

[00:03:01] And so we thought it might be nice to put out just a kit that's a little bit easier to follow.

[00:03:07] And it's not rocket science, but there are some steps you need to do.

[00:03:11] Multiple layers of material has to be fully enclosed.

[00:03:14] You can't really have even kind of a pinhole or won't work.

[00:03:20] So we put out this kit that goes inside of the Costco container. It's not out yet. It will be soon.

[00:03:26] And just size to that because that Costco container from, you know, many YouTube videos of people prepping or building their kits and just kind of it's intuitive to imagine that that's a really easily available enclosure to make this into anybody who can who's near a Costco

[00:03:46] or it couldn't go online to get one can obtain that and then get this kit correctly sized for it.

[00:03:52] So that was the thinking just to make it easier, more standardized and readily available for people.

[00:03:58] Have you considered like a if this one does well like a five gallon bucket?

[00:04:04] Yeah, definitely.

[00:04:06] Yeah, no, that's it's funny. We were thinking about that kind of the bucket size just making one that's really easy.

[00:04:13] It's just it is a little small kind of once you buy the kit and you get it.

[00:04:19] It was just a little bit we thought it might be nice to have a little bit more space inside.

[00:04:24] I don't remember the exact gallon size of that Costco container.

[00:04:28] Maybe like 20, 30 gallon or something was just enough size to put more more than a bucket in.

[00:04:33] But yeah, that's a good idea we may we may come out with a little smaller one.

[00:04:38] That's another one of those. We all have them sort of things.

[00:04:42] You know what I mean? Like we all got five gallon buckets in terms of the prepping community anyway.

[00:04:48] And I have to imagine you're probably looking at that group a little bit for people who are going to take the time to sit down and create their own essentially their own Faraday cage with your raw materials.

[00:05:02] Jim, hey, I just lost the connection there. Sorry. I think I missed 30 seconds or so.

[00:05:08] I was just saying you everybody's got the five gallon buckets that's that's thinking about sitting down and building a Faraday cage.

[00:05:16] So that would probably be a cool little option to absolutely.

[00:05:20] Yep. No, it's a good reminder. Maybe we'll put one of those out right after this.

[00:05:25] It's a good to good point you have everybody's got those already.

[00:05:29] You guys have a DIY product called the Titan RF Faraday Patch.

[00:05:37] Is that adhesive patch? Yeah, that's that's adhesive. So the way the way that you're going to put the layers of material together.

[00:05:47] If you want to sell them our material Titan RF fabric comes in 44 inch width lengths by you know any any length that you want.

[00:05:57] But when you build an enclosure, you need to put those together to get a longer width right to get bigger panels.

[00:06:04] So we have we have Titan RF Faraday tape that and we have different kids kind of DIY kids or we have that tape comes in different packs so you can buy separately.

[00:06:16] But that's going to that's what's going to bind the layers together and maintain the conductivity.

[00:06:21] If you just use any regular tape duct tape or something like that, you're going to break the conductivity between the layers.

[00:06:27] So you use that tape tape together the lengths to get big panels and the patches the same material, but that can the larger patches can be used to actually line an enclosure if you want.

[00:06:39] You would need a few that would be for kind of a smaller enclosure.

[00:06:43] But one technique is to use our Titan RF tape or those patches and let's say line a bucket for example using that adhesive you need multiple layers.

[00:06:54] But that you know that's one way to do it some people do that they just adhere it to a surface.

[00:07:00] And that that patch will if you get any punctures in the material, let's say you build a DIY kit and you know you put some equipment in it and it punctures the side of it.

[00:07:12] It's not it's not destroyed you could use one of those patches to patch both sides of it then you're good to go get.

[00:07:19] I got you. Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of stuff you can do with all that really start going down the rabbit hole of EMP proofing everything.

[00:07:28] Do you wear any of that stuff? Do you wear the I know you guys have like the the EMP and are and different technology blocking blankets and stuff like that.

[00:07:43] Are you big on that?

[00:07:45] Yeah, you know a lot of that comes into there. There's a few scenarios where those types of items really where people are really thinking about it and they they come into play.

[00:07:57] One is there's a certain section of people out there that have what's called the emf sensitivity and they just.

[00:08:05] Okay, they're sensitive to electromagnetic radiation that's put out by devices that may have higher strength radiation.

[00:08:14] That can occur from you know like if you work near server rooms there can be a lot of emf that's being put out by those certain people may feel it with their smart meters or other things in their home.

[00:08:32] The other the other category is that often comes into play with those items is fertility. So I have two kids and when we were trying to get pregnant and I would have my laptop on my lap.

[00:08:47] My wife would come by and pull the laptop off and put it next to me and say you know just in case right like yeah it's flying something there you know let's let's just put it over here and just.

[00:09:01] You can use the laptop on a table so it's that's that's a category that's the blankets are often used for between you and the laptop. Yeah, yeah sure you know laptop or with kids.

[00:09:13] You know we just don't know necessarily there's a lot of items around us now that are emitting radiation and it all it's growing you know exponentially 5G networks everything around us and it may be it may be totally fine we find out in 1020 years or may not it's.

[00:09:30] We're it's it's hard to tell right definitely a lot of people just like yeah yeah and just like people might take vitamin C and that may or may not help you there.

[00:09:40] They're thinking about this and they're they're saying you know what I'm just going to play it safe and get that blanket and use it uses around my house or use it you know with my kids or you know when fertility scenarios and things like that.

[00:09:54] Yeah. Yeah I think I mean definitely in terms of RFID theft it seems like from the RFID side of this stuff.

[00:10:04] It's it's it's only a matter of time before the tech is going to get sort of like point and clicky like if I'm a bad guy and I see a guy with a Rolex or a nice watch on or something I just got a device that I can point and click at his person and get that you know RFID that RF information basically that identification.

[00:10:26] And if we keep using payment methods which I don't know if we will or we won't but if we keep using payment methods and sensitive information that uses that tech.

[00:10:35] It seems like it like your guys technology would be almost like impossible to live without without issue you know I know that the theft technologies not there yet you got to be pretty close to people but it seems like like you said with exponential exponential exponential you know probably be able to hit you with a drone.

[00:10:56] A signal from a drone that'll just slurp up your information you know.

[00:11:01] Sure. Sure you say you say there's probably going to be a time in the future but that's that time is here I mean I'll tell you a couple examples.

[00:11:09] So the RFID scenario of credit cards that's that's been around for quite a while there have been devices that the criminals can buy easily they're not expensive and it's it's called skimming right they can walk by you.

[00:11:22] And you do your right you have to be pretty close for that to happen so it's you know in the same.

[00:11:30] You know the same way you might be pickpocketed you could you could be skim right so it's it could happen is it likely well you know sure you could get pickpocketed but another one that's interesting you may or may not have depends where you're at to right.

[00:11:43] Like if you ride the subway every day skimming is a thing you know well and travel I mean a lot of people that are traveling other countries.

[00:11:52] That's when that's when the thought you know if you're home and you know your environment and you're comfortable with it but if you're out about your traveling in foreign countries that's when a lot of people start thinking about.

[00:12:02] Especially there's you know there's some countries that when you enter the country they have devices that are essentially it's kind of it's like routine and constant hacking they're reading your device IDs.

[00:12:16] They're looking at your phone I mean your phone information as much as they can get over the wire.

[00:12:22] And a lot of people just don't like that they want their phones inside of ferrity back so when they're passing through they're not being their device is not being associated with them and being added to country databases.

[00:12:34] And that's not that's not conspiracy that's real.

[00:12:38] That happens all over the place and we do it to an extent so people just don't like that they don't want to be registered and tracked.

[00:12:49] And your device is constantly connecting to Wi-Fi networks.

[00:12:55] You don't have to go in and connect to a Wi-Fi network manually through your settings to actually connect.

[00:13:00] Your device is constantly connecting it's constantly connecting to sell because it has to register then when you actually do tell it to connect it has to see that network.

[00:13:14] So you're being read everywhere.

[00:13:16] Oh yeah yeah I remember the first time I received my Google timeline of travel activity breakdown.

[00:13:27] I don't know if you've ever received one of those from Google or not.

[00:13:31] They're really interesting.

[00:13:34] They basically tell you you know here's the places you go all the time which usually wind up being you know if you take your kids to school your kids schools and your favorite places to eat.

[00:13:47] You know what I mean you're like wow OK well the gig is up already I guess right.

[00:13:54] Yeah yeah so yeah it's legit.

[00:13:58] The other one that I was going to mention is called a you know you're talking about devices where you can take someone's information.

[00:14:07] The other one and you can look this up.

[00:14:09] It's called a relay hack.

[00:14:12] It's basically where it's to steal a vehicle or gain entry into a vehicle to steal items inside of the vehicle.

[00:14:19] It's usually used with higher dollar vehicles but actually that's not even true.

[00:14:24] It's used with all types of vehicles but basically someone with a relay device it's called it's just basically a signal booster transmitter can go near your keys which could be in your pocket or could be behind the door in your house.

[00:14:37] You can look up YouTube videos of this.

[00:14:39] It happens all the time someone comes in the middle of the night with a relay device they just get it near your keys if they're hanging on the other side of the door even inside.

[00:14:46] It boosts the signal back to the vehicle and someone else can open the vehicle instantly and start it and drive away.

[00:14:53] And people don't realize that it's a massive problem.

[00:14:58] Government police departments in cities have been buying Faraday bags as programs to give them out to people to help them understand that their keys are exposed they should use Faraday bags.

[00:15:11] So if you keep your keys away from the door and you're not in an area where maybe that could happen where someone's near you in a parking garage or something you may not be concerned about it but it's a massive problem.

[00:15:24] Yeah that's terrifying.

[00:15:26] And like I said it's on the sort of spectrum of thieving technology we're probably at the pretty early on in that timeline.

[00:15:39] It's going to get way more intrusive I imagine.

[00:15:43] Oh I mean it's cat and mouse right.

[00:15:46] The thieves are basically constantly developing technology to try to accomplish their purpose and the other side of industry and government is trying to stop it.

[00:16:01] So yeah it's cat and mouse all the time.

[00:16:02] Yeah you guys really do present the Faraday companies in general present one of the best means of security because you make the device just disappear altogether.

[00:16:19] In other words the battle between like they're using this kind of hack and we're using this kind of security and updates so you can be secure against this kind of hack.

[00:16:29] You know back and forth it does seem like one of the best ways to stay out of that nightmare is to have your electronics that contain sensitive data to just not be there to be bothered with.

[00:16:44] But eventually you got to take it out of the bag and use it.

[00:16:48] Right right.

[00:16:50] That's the trade off.

[00:16:51] You know it's a manual.

[00:16:53] You're right.

[00:16:55] It is a cut and dry.

[00:16:58] You know it's going to work because you can see it.

[00:17:01] You can touch it feel it.

[00:17:03] You know as long as you can test it maybe on your own with make a call to your phone or text message you see OK this thing is actually blocking signals.

[00:17:11] You know it's going to work if you take your phone iPhone Android and you physically turn it off.

[00:17:18] What have we all seen in the last few years.

[00:17:21] There's a notification that says your device is still findable through because you can go on and you can find your device.

[00:17:29] It's not really off.

[00:17:31] Your phone isn't off.

[00:17:33] You're not turning your device off.

[00:17:35] You can go into iCloud or go to Google and still find your device.

[00:17:38] Well it's still trackable right with a Faraday bag.

[00:17:41] You're using a manual method to make sure that it's actually blocking signals.

[00:17:46] But as you mentioned the trade off is your device is inside of there and it's a manual process to put it in and take it out.

[00:17:54] So that is a trade off.

[00:17:56] Yeah but it works.

[00:17:58] I mean my go to test for any of these products I stick it in whatever I'm putting it in lock it up.

[00:18:05] Velcro it shut whatever it does and then go right to Google find my phone.

[00:18:11] Because Google find my phone will find your phone no matter what the hell happened to your phone.

[00:18:16] Right.

[00:18:18] I've seen it.

[00:18:20] I mean I've got it in my SLNT pouch and boom that thing is like we don't know no idea it checked in 28 minutes ago.

[00:18:27] I don't know where it went.

[00:18:29] Right.

[00:18:31] So this stuff works.

[00:18:33] It's a lot it's a lot more convenient that even if you were able to turn your phone off.

[00:18:35] It's a lot more convenient to pull it in and out of a bag then actually turn it on and off right so I think it's kind of a sunset thing.

[00:18:42] Some people just don't there's various reasons to use Faraday bags.

[00:18:46] They just don't they just don't want their location constantly pinging.

[00:18:50] They don't they don't want they don't want anybody you know the networks government anybody who might be interested in knowing where they're at to know.

[00:18:56] That's totally.

[00:18:58] Yeah and I bet I bet it well that's going down the rabbit hole a little far.

[00:19:03] Well you guys offer some cool stuff man for someone who really wants to go deep.

[00:19:10] You guys have some like your your cyber silent Faraday tent.

[00:19:16] It looks like you could fit a house in that thing.

[00:19:19] You guys got some some larger versions of this more reliable technology that I haven't seen in other places.

[00:19:26] Yeah.

[00:19:28] Cyber silent.

[00:19:30] That's it.

[00:19:32] Yeah.

[00:19:34] Thanks for bringing that up that that's been interesting.

[00:19:37] I mean it's been an evolution because we when we came out with you know years ago and I started the company we came out with bags and smaller stuff and we've just been asked over time to make bigger and bigger.

[00:19:46] Enclosures and we make these tents for.

[00:19:51] Originally we've made them for law enforcement and military for a number of reasons conducting investigations cell phone investigations or digital device investigations inside of so they can bring phones inside of there and

[00:20:06] and investigate criminal activities so criminals can't remote wipe or alter the evidence that they're looking at.

[00:20:14] And then we sell for for military operations for also for you know device interrogations for human interrogations.

[00:20:26] So you know spec ops and other military can't be tracked on suspect devices that may or may not be on on individuals that they're concerned with.

[00:20:37] And there's a number of applications that are non civilian that we sold these for but one which kind of your head on is the side of it and we've been asked for tents and for vehicles in particular for quite a while.

[00:20:51] And we've made them we make some pretty cool tents other than the cyber silent but this one cyber silent is really neat because it's got a carbon fiber frame it's lightweight it's really strong.

[00:21:04] It's expandable if you want to add to the size of the tent we're going to come out with kind of an expandable module for it and it's not cheap you know the base models around 15,000.

[00:21:14] But you've got people who are spending a hell of a lot more that than 15,000 on their kit and they want to protect it.

[00:21:22] So that's the justification there is either you know vehicles or anything you can put anything inside of that it's I think the base is around 20 feet by 10 feet by around maybe seven feet high or something.

[00:21:36] And we made it that way so it can fit into an eight foot high ceiling height essentially.

[00:21:43] I got you a good call.

[00:21:45] You guys have this crazy looking mission darkness black box.

[00:21:51] What is the what is the motive I don't even know how I'd use that thing it looks like something they pull off the airline.

[00:21:59] Yeah, that's are you talking about the blockbox.

[00:22:02] Oh, blockbox I'm sorry even in my head I called it the black box the black box lab Excel yeah.

[00:22:09] Yeah that's that's one of our that's for law enforcement and military that's for investigations so that digital evidence goes right into blockbox.

[00:22:20] Yep, yep that's it looks like it looks like a sandblasting box you put your put your hands in your arms inside of it that whole box you open the lid it's got a viewing window.

[00:22:32] Every component in their blocks signal right so it's going to block Wi Fi cell signals even that window has material that's going to block.

[00:22:41] So you put a phone inside of there you close the lid and then you put your hands inside of those gloves and you can operate a device and turn it on and even if you turn it on and you're operating it it's not going to connect to the network.

[00:22:52] So you can't be remote wiped your alter.

[00:22:55] Yeah, that's cool man.

[00:22:56] What were your thoughts with the the Aurora and the and the massive sun attack couple weeks ago.

[00:23:05] Was that a couple weeks ago now?

[00:23:08] Well we've had this year we've had a few of these types of events.

[00:23:13] This was significant though right this thing this thing had a lot of people worried.

[00:23:19] What were you thinking when it was in route where you like we're gonna we're gonna our folks who have our equipment are going to get some use out of it this weekend.

[00:23:28] Were you thinking that or no.

[00:23:30] Yeah, there's that we also get you know when these types of events happen.

[00:23:36] We get we do get a lot of people writing in or purchasing our you know it's kind of a reminder basically that because it's easy to think that these things are are far off or you know unlikely to happen.

[00:23:52] Or you know who knows right maybe not my lifetime or something like that and then then you get an event and people go oh crap okay this is real.

[00:23:59] So yeah definitely that was an interesting one we got a lot of a lot of contacts and a lot of sales of our products that are blocky MP or solar flare.

[00:24:10] So I was saying that those events are great because I mean they're not you know they're not great but for for us what it does is it opens up the conversation with a lot of groups of people and they they get interested in understanding what's going on and what it can actually do to their equipment and then they you know.

[00:24:28] Contact us and and ultimately you know it helps her helps us kind of helps us help the community essentially.

[00:24:36] Yeah, yeah there that's that was one of those ones where I was like how what's scary about it is there's no first of all there's really nothing anyone can do to help you if you don't have what you need.

[00:24:52] Right like there's no mass mobilization the government or military or anyone can do to help.

[00:25:00] And then of course the second thing what I realized this time this go around was we don't really know what the big one even looks like you know like in other words category seven hurricane you know what I mean we understand that's a that's a thing we've never seen before and.

[00:25:21] You know I'm saying that's going to be a problem that's going to kill people that's going to what's scary about the sun is there's so many variables because it's so far away.

[00:25:30] That we just don't know when when that big one is going to hit or where it has to hit or so on but we've seen I mean we've seen we've seen those kind of lights out situations in places like Canada and.

[00:25:44] Where else we see it wasn't there one in New York it was not long ago 10 years ago something like that.

[00:25:50] Not New York City but in the state.

[00:25:54] A geomagnetic event storm.

[00:25:57] Yeah, I know there was one in the Northeast when I was younger.

[00:26:01] That put some power out and stuff.

[00:26:04] Yeah, there there's I think one of the biggest ones is back in like this back before the grid was fully established one of those like 100 or multi hundred year events.

[00:26:16] But yeah there's been there's been different events at various sizes and you get you get Noah you know puts out an alert like hey this is real this could knock out the Internet hey we have an event going on and when people see those they go to the

[00:26:33] go wait a second I've never thought about this what is this.

[00:26:37] There you go March 13 1989.

[00:26:41] And where was that that was in New York.

[00:26:44] That was in Canada.

[00:26:46] Okay shut out shut the electricity off to 6 million people for nine hours.

[00:26:53] Geomagnetic storm.

[00:26:55] Yeah, I mean I don't know how much sun monitoring was going on back in those days but it was one of those things where it was like wow that happened.

[00:27:03] Back then we had no idea what we were talking about but yeah those things they just like you said it was about a day before two days before when we got the official warning about disruptions you know could be some disruptions.

[00:27:20] This is the thing about prepping Ryan that that I'm so glad more people are getting into it now and aren't looking at it with the hairy eyeball anymore because so much of this stuff happens you know where you get.

[00:27:34] I don't know it's I was writing earlier today for a written interview with the blaze and I was writing about how you know there's this sense that there's a government agent or a government program out there waiting for every American in a disaster.

[00:27:53] You know what I mean like in our minds that's the way that we live we live with this idea that somebody is going to appear like a fairy godmother and be like oh.

[00:28:01] You've just been hit by a life changing disaster let's get you all wrapped up and fixed up and fed and watered and all those things.

[00:28:09] And it's never that way I don't know why and how and what evidence we've used over all these years to come to that conclusion that somebody is going to swoop in and make it all better you know.

[00:28:20] Yeah yeah well and it's probably easy to think that when you have contained contained incidences that are affected a minor set of the population somewhere and you can wrap your mind around it but if we have something that's widespread it's that's yeah there's there's not going to be any help on the way.

[00:28:39] Yeah but we know enough about FEMA now even that they roll into town and do what it is they can do and then they leave you know like all these people who got smashed by tornadoes over the last couple weeks it's not like it's not like FEMA shows up and rebells their house feeds them for the next three months.

[00:28:59] You know what I mean.

[00:29:00] Sure.

[00:29:01] They show up and do what it is they can and usually it's like you know talking with a local emergency management first responders and different you know entities there and then they're gone it's over you're on your own.

[00:29:16] So it's I don't know.

[00:29:18] People are realizing that's the good thing that's the good thing be capable when you're on your own you know instead of this concept of somebody's coming to help because it's just you know it's not going to be that way.

[00:29:28] But.

[00:29:29] Well and you know back back to kind of the category that that we're discussing for here the the EMP electromagnetic radiation EMP type event which can happen many ways.

[00:29:42] Whether that's through a bad actor or nuclear generation of it or natural through the sun there's a lot of ways that can happen that was pretty esoteric thought.

[00:29:55] A few years ago only you know three to five years ago.

[00:29:58] That was pretty out there not even the government every once in a while would put out a piece of news that would say hey by the way this is a threat and somebody here in the government is talking about it and there's nothing we can do about it and since then the frequency of the conversation has escalated dramatically.

[00:30:17] You can there's a there's articles now there's conversation from the government explaining the fact that our grid is entirely exposed.

[00:30:25] There's no there's nothing we can do short of rebuilding and hardening our entire grid which is obviously not going to happen.

[00:30:32] Electrical grid.

[00:30:33] It's totally exposed it's it's.

[00:30:37] Pretty much people have said and recently officials have said it is the number one most unprotected threat to our country.

[00:30:45] Our electrical grid is entirely exposed.

[00:30:48] So what do we do we can do the best individually we can to try to counter that that's all we can do we have we have no ability to keep the grid going ourselves.

[00:30:59] All we can do is prep for it personally.

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[00:32:13] And you were talking about nuclear.

[00:32:15] The this is crazy news.

[00:32:18] I mean it's absolutely crazy but the the early warning.

[00:32:22] It's called the arm of your radar station.

[00:32:24] It's there basically one of the biggest early warnings radars for the Russians was destroyed on the 23rd of May.

[00:32:35] And nobody's it's not they're not saying that it was or wasn't Ukrainian.

[00:32:41] You keep Ukrainian strikes but it says during an all out.

[00:32:45] No, no, no, that's not what I want to read you.

[00:32:50] Russians are telling us that according to their nuclear protocols the destruction of the arm of your radar station could have allowed them to conduct nuclear strike in return.

[00:33:00] Because it's you know it is there sort of their numero uno in terms of detecting long before a nuclear weapon arrives into their nation that you know it's coming preemptive strike all that kind of stuff would be conducted based off of what that radar finds out.

[00:33:19] And you know it's just it's just another little baby step into this perilous situation that we're in right now with Russia which is I mean it's it's terrifying really.

[00:33:32] You know it's I even find myself not wanting to think about it in two detent to depths because I'm a week there that's another one of those situations where it's once those things start getting lobbed man.

[00:33:44] I hope I hope you've taken precautions you know.

[00:33:49] Yeah, this know you're totally right I mean it's kind of what I was hitting on before here's here's news headline from from February 17.

[00:34:00] This year a lot of the stuff Russia attempting to develop nuclear space weapon to destroy satellites with massive energy wave sources familiar with Intel say this stuff.

[00:34:10] It's really getting out there now because it's a major major threat.

[00:34:15] It just hasn't been the conversation before has been a lot of like hacking you know Russia hacking Russian, you know spy Intel things like this.

[00:34:27] Hacking is is is only one way to damage our infrastructure or our systems but it requires a lot more expertise than just lobbing an amp that's pretty easy and pretty quick and dirty to do that.

[00:34:41] And you can take down that you can take on an entire locale.

[00:34:46] That's the next generation of probably civilian and terrorist weaponry I have to believe you know is the EMP weapons because well here when I was looking to read that story to you.

[00:35:00] It was in our, our hosts were talking about it in our host chat this morning.

[00:35:06] I'm going to drudge by accident because I didn't remember where I saw it.

[00:35:10] And one of the top stories in drudge right now is drones to be introduced into Denver police to help respond to 911 calls after city defunded the force by millions.

[00:35:20] So, you know the age of robot policing is here.

[00:35:24] And the way that you deal with robot police is just what you said, you know, the MP weapons to some degree somebody's going to figure it out somebody's going to figure out how to deal with these electronic threats or electronic, you know, authority to some degree

[00:35:42] it's going to happen.

[00:35:44] And you know who knows what that looks like. People start lobbying the MP devices are shooting jammers at at random stuff or what I don't know is a jammer is a jammer like an EMP or is that a that's a radio signal.

[00:36:00] What you're talking about is so true it's the version of shooting a human with a gun in the in the tech age is shooting shooting a device with an ampere disabling piece of technology a jammer.

[00:36:15] A jammer is not is not an EMP and EMP is a massive amount of energy that essentially disables electronic by by essentially frying that power surge right the circus yeah it's a power surge exactly

[00:36:29] but a jammer does can accomplish the purpose and they're you can buy a really effective jammer for 20 bucks. They're they're illegal, you know, of course, because they cause massive disruption but a jammer just disrupts the frequencies

[00:36:46] it puts so many. It puts so much junk into the frequencies that that communication can't effective communication can't it scrambles the frequencies basically

[00:36:57] and used on home security systems now.

[00:37:00] Mm hmm. Sure. Yeah, I mean you know criminal can get one for 20 bucks there they're very readily available.

[00:37:10] So yeah, you're 100% right.

[00:37:14] Yeah, so it's an ever changing and more dynamic threat assessment that we have to go through right regular basis.

[00:37:22] You offer solutions, you know there's no doubt about it. You guys offer solutions from from key fob to good God I don't even know how big some of these units are that I'm looking at on your website but they look enormous this mission darkness

[00:37:38] Faraday tent looks huge I don't know if that's bigger than the car port or not.

[00:37:44] We've we've got we've got. We sell tents and enclosures for airplanes helicopters.

[00:37:52] It's basically it's it's as big as you want. We don't.

[00:37:56] We don't yet have a helicopter enclosure on our website but we sell it we sell for it.

[00:38:03] There's, you can put it, you know, we build as big as you need this stuff that you know, like you mentioned earlier the tents the vehicle tents that's that's what's going to fit in someone's

[00:38:13] shed or barn or home. So there's a lot of that out there but yeah we make is as big as you need.

[00:38:21] So if somebody want I guess the contact page is the way to go if somebody's like I need a custom sized thing and I'm not making it myself with fabric, they would go to go to sort of like a contact page.

[00:38:36] I see you got a tag this page over here on your website.

[00:38:39] Yeah, sure that's that's one way mos equipment calm mission darkness you can find our contact page.

[00:38:47] Also pick up the phone to call us. We're we're available to help kind of guide in in helping you spec out what you're trying to accomplish.

[00:38:59] Absolutely.

[00:39:01] So what's the differentiation between MO what mountain ocean sky equipment and mission darkness is one just like the parent company.

[00:39:10] Good question yeah so mos equipment we have some other activity it's kind of government military oriented that's not directly mission darkness most of the products under that company or mission darkness brand but we do get that question a lot so

[00:39:29] most most everything we offer is mission darkness brand so essentially almost one and same.

[00:39:35] I got you.

[00:39:37] Well, we.

[00:39:40] Many of us utilize this kind of technology already as preppers but I know.

[00:39:45] I know people in my own personal life or now carrying around.

[00:39:49] E M F protection for their key fobs and things like that I do think you guys are in an industry that's growing for sure.

[00:39:57] And we wish you all the best man so the best.

[00:40:01] The best website is the mos equipment calm right.

[00:40:06] That's correct yep m mos equipment calm.

[00:40:11] That's a good question.

[00:40:14] That's a good question.

[00:40:17] Maybe where you can also go to mission darkness calm but ms equipment is the base website and that's Mike.

[00:40:25] Sorry Mike Oscar Sierra equipment in case it didn't come through there but that's you can find us there contact us on the on the page.

[00:40:34] Give us a call.

[00:40:35] Love to talk to you.

[00:40:37] Oh yeah man and send me an email and I'll share it out with everybody when you guys get the DIY Costco bin Faraday cage DIY kit.

[00:40:48] Can't wait to see what you call it up and running because like I said there's a there's a lot of potential with the DIY fabrics and tapes and gaskets and patches that you guys offer.

[00:41:01] And I can see the PBN family getting into that stuff.

[00:41:05] Yeah absolutely we'll send that your way.

[00:41:08] We'll provide a discount code for your listeners so they can pick it up a little bit of a discount from what we have it online.

[00:41:17] Hopefully that is a good kit where we're putting out stuff. This this is one where you know it's not this isn't this particular products not a big money maker for us.

[00:41:28] That's what not what we're concerned with here. That one's more like a it's a community builder and helps us reach into you know this this community gets us into the conversations and understanding what else we need to build to help to help

[00:41:44] purpose and help get everybody protected from this kind of category of threat. So thanks. Yeah thanks thanks for having me appreciate being able to talk about that it's been a pleasure.

[00:41:56] Yeah no problem Ryan thanks for the input on a variety of things and you know thanks for being the guy who runs the show and makes these things available to people like us because I know I sure as hell wouldn't want to be figuring all this stuff

[00:42:11] I'm unequipped for that but appreciate your time my man and feel free to reach out and come back on whenever you want we enjoy talking to you for sure.

[00:42:22] Alright you two Jim thank you take care.

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