FLASHBACK: CoronaCast Feb 17th 2020 (James, Jordan, Dave, Chin)

[00:00:08] The Prepper Broadcasting Network. We have to hit the reset button and create a true culture preparedness starting at a very young age and filtering all the way up. Prepper Broadcasting Network, what is up? James Walton here, Medical Monday live but I am not alone.

[00:00:45] We're going to discuss a number of things tonight focusing around the coronavirus. Ideally, I'd like to stay relatively focused on the economic impacts of the virus around the world which are, I mean, there's a lot already but to me it seems like it's something

[00:01:04] that's kind of in its infancy and also the turning tide with US infections and what that could look like over the next eight to 12 months or even beyond. Just so you have an idea, we have a outstanding group in a Discord server that has been collecting

[00:01:27] and commenting and figuring and just really analyzing all kinds of stories as they come through and what we did tonight is we kind of picked a handful of those folks out. If you remember our last Corona cast, we had Dave Jones with us, and Chen Gibson with

[00:01:46] us and tonight we're adding the Saturday Night Queen of Stitchery, Jordan Smith with us tonight. And there's an angle to her. I don't know if everybody really appreciates the full scope of what Jordan has to offer but you will after tonight's show. I can promise you that.

[00:02:09] So without further ado, guys, do I have everybody still with us? Can each of you say hi? Hi, everybody. Dave Jones, the NBC guy. Do I got anybody else? Ladies? Hi, Chen's here. Hello, everyone. Okay, I don't hear Jordan but find out what's going on.

[00:02:37] And then there were three little things. The virus is taking over. Oh, goodness gracious. Guys, so I guess first thing we need to do, I guess first order of business really and

[00:02:50] Jordan if you can get back on with us or if something's up with that, we'll fix it. The first ordered business is to tip our hats to Chen for starting us down this path of the Discord chat.

[00:03:06] This whole thing was something that I didn't really know much about. It kind of came to be because of the gun rally by the way, huge victory in Virginia today. Amen. Amen. For those of you who don't know, I don't know, go listen to the previous podcast.

[00:03:23] But yeah, man, you turned us on to this Discord thing and now we're powering through all this information on this issue and I have to believe that this is going to be the way prepper broadcasting network handles all big issues going forward and it's really efficient.

[00:03:39] It's really fun and well, it's the backbone of what we're about to do tonight really. So I appreciate it. Chen and I thank you. Absolutely. It's crazy how it kind of took off.

[00:03:49] We were like, I was trying to look out for your back as you went to that rally and then we found a useful off the bat. No, yeah, we definitely did. We definitely did. So what do you guys want to do first?

[00:04:04] Do we want to talk infections in the States or do we want to look at economic effects of the virus? Let's talk economics first because that's yeah. That's I mean, if you haven't heard Hyundai, Nissan have suspended operations, OK, because they can't get their parts from China.

[00:04:30] And I think Daimler and a few others said that there may be disruptions in their production. The pharmaceuticals Jordan can talk to, but we get a lot of pharmaceuticals from I got a thing here says Jordan lost her Internet connection. Oh, she's back. There she is. I'm back.

[00:05:03] You said the pharmaceuticals and not to jump in on what you're saying, but I've actually noticed a decline as far as restocking with manufacturers as well as already a large number of anti-psychotics that we get some of the main ingredients from China are already on back order.

[00:05:20] And there's no actual return date of when they're going to be back in stock. Jordan, tell the cycle about your secret identity. Obviously don't divulge anything that'll get you in trouble. But people know you as the host of a family affair.

[00:05:35] And I don't know if they know the full scope of your level of experience. I am a pharmacy tech. So I work in pharmaceuticals and I mainly work in the mental health field, even though it is retail.

[00:05:48] So I though have access to being able to see manufacturers online that we order from I can't see all of them. And I have other friends and other retail pharmacies who we all have been keep an eye on the numbers for antibiotics and common

[00:06:03] medications that you see from day to day. A lot of the ingredients that you get in certain heart medication comes from China, just like there was a lot of medications back when was it Puerto Rico was hit?

[00:06:17] There were certain special ingredient for one particular job that we couldn't get or drug we couldn't get because of that. So a lot of people don't realize America, especially here, we depend so much on other countries for certain ingredients. So we're not looking at just China.

[00:06:36] China has a huge impact on us. But think about it if it's more than one country, we're not going to be able to mass produce any of these drugs. All right. I mean, when you think about it, everything comes from China. Textiles.

[00:06:51] I heard a statistic today that we have a percent of our textiles from China. Fifty percent, did you say? Fort forty. Forty. Well, I won't be surprised. I mean, look at just on antibiotics alone. We have not produced our own antibiotics since what is it? 2004. Dang.

[00:07:11] So all of our antibiotics come from China or a majority of them come from China. India manufactures their own antibiotics, but 80 percent of their ingredients comes from China. So even if we look at another country, India is not going to be

[00:07:24] able to mass produce because 80 percent of those ingredients come from China itself. Yeah. And I'm sure the guys tomorrow night are going to touch on this, that the stock market is artificially being propped up. I'm sure they're going to talk about you mean before or after?

[00:07:46] Because it's been that way. Oh, yeah. Boeing reported. They haven't had any orders in two months and their stock goes up. It's like, how the hell does that happen? Because nothing can go wrong if they're not flying their planes right now. Yeah.

[00:08:05] But aren't Boeing actually produced in China as well? Well, a lot of the parts are. Yeah. We have they are there are simple to the states. Yeah. Some of the models are. I'll tell you one that I saw.

[00:08:18] That's a one to cover up in the way the guy represented. It was perfect. He said, unless the federal government can figure out how to print buildings and mine mining operations, the information that's coming out of Caterpillar. Yeah. They've seen a two month decline,

[00:08:38] meaning, you know, serious manufacturing downturn. And this information came from the economic collapse blog, which is I've been talking about the economic collapse blog for probably almost eight years. And that's a huge one. That's a huge one because, I mean, they are always on the up and up

[00:09:00] because someone's building somewhere all the time. So that's another really terrifying telltale sign. Two month decline. I don't know if that first month had anything to do with it, but I'm sure they're going to see bigger, bigger issues going forward. You know? Yeah.

[00:09:16] Caterpillar is an indicator of further growth and construction. So if they're not in the waters, that growth is not going to be there. And they're a global company too. It's not just like one spot or the other. Yeah. Well, another one from the economic collapse blog

[00:09:38] that posted today or yesterday is all about Japan's GDP and the effects of the coronavirus on it. It says, where's that? Economists were projecting that Japan's GDP would shrink by 3.8 percent on an annualized basis in the fourth quarter. But instead it greatly surpassed expectations by plunging 6.3 percent.

[00:10:04] It says if Japan's GDP falls again during the first quarter of 2020 and thanks to coronavirus outbreak, that seems very likely than the world's third largest economy will officially be in a recession. That's kind of the new word. The new word is, well, it's necessarily a new word.

[00:10:21] The word that's getting more play than normal from people outside of the prepping world is the global recession. Right? That's like an economics and prepper word that you only hear in those four. I haven't seen that a lot this recession idea.

[00:10:38] And it's not it's not just like drugs and and and parts. And, you know, because there's been a lot of talk about like tourism, how how massive the Chinese were in travel and tourism. So all these countries, I mean, I don't hear I'm in Charleston, right?

[00:10:53] So that's like a big industry for us as tourism. Everybody wants to go see the old where they shot the first shot of the Civil War. Right? So, yeah, you know, that we're not seeing, you know, they're they're locked down so they can't travel.

[00:11:07] So all that money coming into all these countries is going to dry up for how long? Yeah. And who's going to book a cruise ship? I think that's a really cheap rates right now. If you want to get out of it.

[00:11:19] They do wait for the Disney cruise to drop. Yeah, that's a hey, I'll tell you what, that's a big when you're talking about overseas travel, not just not just the people who go to people who work there. You don't have to ask my friend.

[00:11:35] She's actually a travel agent on top of. So I have to reach out to her and see what it's like for her now, especially since all her big trips have been criticism Disney. OK, so we we well, we've talked about the economic impact,

[00:11:51] but what are you guys doing prepper wise for the economic impact? I'll tell you what I'm doing. I'm keeping a very minimal amount of cash in my bank account. And I started this two weeks ago when when we did our first broadcast,

[00:12:08] I said, holy crap, I don't want to be going to an ATM machine and getting cash out. And I've been pulling money out little by little by little, just enough to pay my bills, keep it in there and the rest of it cash on hand.

[00:12:22] What are you guys doing? Well, let me mention one more quick step that Chin put in as an infographic that I thought was astounding and then I'll give you mine. It was about it was about this topic of travel

[00:12:37] and I had to do with the United States and Australia foreign students percentage and the billion dollar industry that these foreign students are for the nations and in each nation over 30 percent of students. Foreign students in the US and in Australia, both over 30 percent come from China.

[00:12:59] They're the biggest piece of the pie for both nations. I don't know about Europe. I wanted to look up Europe, but I didn't get a chance to do it, but that is massive. You know, and I don't even know how that works.

[00:13:10] I don't know what happens to a college when 30 percent of the people aren't allowed to travel back to school or however. I don't know how it works, you know, where they can't travel home now or what the deal is.

[00:13:22] Yeah, but you know this has not stopped people from traveling whatsoever. Like I know someone who traveled from here to France and is in France for a while is now just landed in Japan and there are people.

[00:13:35] I guess the media has done so well downplaying it that people are not concerned whatsoever. She went to Japan with no questions and when asked, oh, it's no big deal. Well, we have our trip to Romania planned right now and our layover is in London, Heathrow.

[00:13:54] So we're about ready to say, you know what? Even if there's no travel restriction, because who the hell wants to go to Romania anyways, right? We both want to go through that airport. That's a scary situation, man, because it seems like from what I can tell,

[00:14:16] it seems like there was a time, I guess right around, I got the timeline right here. It seems like there was a time at some point in like early to mid-January where this thing was pretty well locked down. Yeah.

[00:14:35] And now it seems like nobody really knows who has it and who doesn't. And I don't know how anybody could ever know who has it and who doesn't. Or who doesn't rather. There's no way. Because the ship in Cambodia, they disembarked those people

[00:14:57] and everybody went their all separate ways and no one was checked. Yeah, the Diamond Princess or whatever that shit, those 300 people that came into the States last night? Yeah. They were evac? 40 people got their tests as they were on the bus leaving the ship, going to the planes.

[00:15:18] Right. 40 people got tests positive. And I think that... Got their test results back while they were on the bus that they were positive and they still came. I think that was Japan. And yeah, yeah. I mean, that just shows how...

[00:15:32] Yeah, now you're flying back and infecting all those people. But the problem with their test is they're doing an upper an upper respiratory or nasal cavity swab. And this is a pneumonia that sits in the lower respiratory. So you're not going to get a positive,

[00:15:49] even if it's already set down in the lower half the lungs, there's still a chance you'll never get a positive until much, much later. Yeah, that's why they're getting all the false readings because people will be cleared and they're not getting the true

[00:16:07] place where the infection starts, which is in the lungs. They're just getting the nasal passages and they need to get that fluid from the lungs. Yeah, it's one of those things. People with the... I mean, even with the tests, let's say that tomorrow

[00:16:24] they came out with a test that was perfect. Right? You're still dependent on people to number one, go get tested. Right? And then you're dependent on this virus to give them any sign that they should go get tested. Because...

[00:16:41] How many people do you think maybe actually had a fever and decided to tell them, No, we don't have a fever? Oh yeah. Just pull that through. Give me the hell out of here. Just to get off that boat? Yeah. Yeah, no doubt about it.

[00:16:54] And how many people see the further the deeper this thing goes and this is kind of... This is kind of the part that I'll admit to being kind of asleep at the wheel on when I was feeling much more confident about this thing

[00:17:06] not being so much of an issue here in the States was people who have come back infected other people and those people have already gone and infected other people. And there's just no stopping that. There's no... It's a done deal now. It's got to run its course.

[00:17:25] You know, and without a single symptom there could be waves of people walking around infecting other people. That's the problem. Does anybody have a solid read on this asymptomatic thing? Is it a year? What is it? It goes up every weekday.

[00:17:43] It's like the first three to five days. It's the most typical. You can feel no symptoms but you can still give the disease. So three to five now, okay. I could have sore. I saw something like 28 days or 24 days. So that's the outside.

[00:18:03] Yeah, now that's the quarantine period for the people that are sick and there was an outlier for 28 days. So it was a single case. Yeah, but there's been a few that went over the 14 days. A few, not so many that they're going to change.

[00:18:21] Well that last one in San Diego was one of the ones that was over 14 days. Yeah. It's a little different but I kind of did a little bit of a breakdown. Let me go over this. So they, okay, out of 100 people, this is to get everybody's perspective together.

[00:18:41] Out of 100 people that get the disease, okay. 20 people will go to the hospital. Okay, they'll be sick enough to go to the hospital. The 80 people, they'll be sick but they won't be sick enough. You know, when you get the flu, you don't run to the hospital.

[00:19:02] I don't anyways. So you'll be sick but you won't go to the hospital. So 20% will go to the hospital. Out of those 20%, 10 to 12 will need intensive care which means oxygen, ventilator. They'll need assistance more than just a hospital room and monitoring. And out of three,

[00:19:30] three of the 20 that go into the hospital will die. It's a good breakdown. That's a great breakdown. A way to look at it with these numbers growing and growing. It's hard to, you know, visualize it but when you break it down in the hundreds

[00:19:45] that's a pretty good deal. Yeah. Well that's probably why they're out in the UK. They're trying to get them. If you feel ill, call in first. Don't just go to the hospital because they're trying to minimize how many people are exposed just immediately

[00:19:59] because how many nurses and doctor staff are not going to know and not be masked. Exactly. God, that's terrifying. That's terrifying. The prime example is when I had the flu for the first time last year. I thought I was having a kidney infection. I'm not going to lie.

[00:20:16] I had no other symptom than terrible, terrible back pain and a fever like I did the very first time I ever had a kidney infection. Went to the doctor. I probably was face-to-face with at least six members of the ER staff.

[00:20:29] You imagine how many people I probably infected with the flu without ever even knowing I had a flu? They didn't even diagnose me with the flu. I didn't find out I had the flu until two days later when I went to my doctor. Well that's another outstanding observation

[00:20:43] that I didn't even think about is how many people go to the hospital and infect how many other people before they go, oh we gave him the test and he's positive. Yeah, right. In the waiting room. Yeah, oh yeah. Right, and that's not included in the waiting room.

[00:20:59] I'm just talking about how many staff members were in my face taking temps and tests and everything else. Yeah, unmasked. So what's the official deal on the spreading? Does anybody know 100% what the spreading situation is? Jin has that because he did a breakdown

[00:21:21] of Japan, Singapore, the US and the UK. Oh no no no, I'm sorry. You mean the not right? No no no. How does it spread exactly? Ah. So in other words, in other words, in other words if Jordan were at the end

[00:21:43] of my dining room table right now, is that a problem? Yes. So it can spread through the air. They're showing if you have a tenant 10 floors down from you in an apartment complex because they believe it travels through water.

[00:21:58] It's definitely in the fecal but it's also in the saliva so now they're saying it lasts that you're having people who are 10 stories down from you getting infected from someone up, way up above in an apartment complex.

[00:22:12] So it's not going to be, yeah maybe you can break it down better than I can. So basically they judge like contamination by three ways. The first one is like physical contact. Sure. If you come in physical contact with someone

[00:22:31] and you spread, you know, aids is like that. Okay so you have to have physical contact with someone and you have to transmit some kind of fluid to you. The next way is if you're in close proximity, so that's the one between three and 12 feet. Okay.

[00:22:56] Okay that's not aerosolized, that's just like coughing, sneezing, talking. Talking right now, little sputums are coming out of my mouth. And they're getting all over this microphone. Yeah. But that's, and then the third way, and they're pretty much 100% on this one,

[00:23:20] I mean there's still some people that are, you know, they need more tests is aerosolized. So if the virus can be aerosolized, that's when it's transmitted over long distances like the pipes in your house, the ventilation system. They think that the people on that cruise boat

[00:23:47] was getting infected from the cruise boat that it was in the ventilation system. So this thing is highly, highly contagious. Okay. People talk about Ebola and SARS and all the other stuff. Those are deadly, yes. But they're not as contagious as this thing is.

[00:24:11] So, yeah, that's a good one. Here's that story about the lady in Hong Kong, the apartment, you're right there are 10 floors. 10 floors down. From where, yeah, from the actual sick person was 10 floors above the next lady that got it.

[00:24:31] And the only thing they could equate was toilets flush down because their air conditioning and ventilation goes up. But see, they did check because they had an issue and they checked the water system. That's why they're not 100% sure though

[00:24:49] because they had a case around there in the same area where it was from the flush and the toilets for a case of SARS. But they're starting to think it wasn't that because of how this water and piping system is done

[00:25:02] because it runs on the outside of the building instead of on the inside. Yeah. Hey, and I just want to put this out there before I forget. We have to keep an eye on Australia right now. And the reason is they're going into fall. Okay.

[00:25:21] So their cases are going to tell us whether... Okay, a lot of experts are saying if we can just make it till April, if we can make it to April, everything will fall off. This thing will die out. But wasn't there a country that has a perfectly humid

[00:25:39] and more like our summer and they're just the virus is flourishing yet? Yeah. So I don't think we're going to get the break that everybody's expecting to get because of this, the way the virus is and the pneumonia that it affects you with. You know, flu, flu yes.

[00:26:01] The flu season goes in the wintertime and go in the summertime. This thing is not the flu. It is not the flu. Tell you what, what moved me most and I don't put all my eggs in the basket of the CDC but there was something about...

[00:26:20] Well, kind of basically what you were talking about, right? When things come out that are countered and what most people are saying and they come from governmental agencies, that is when I pay attention because I'm used to the governmental agency playing this safe card, you know? Right.

[00:26:37] And we were talking about Robert M. Renfield from Bram Stoker's killer before the show. And I got his name wrong but the CDC director, Dr. Robert Redfield He had a quote that like terrified me. You know, it absolutely terrified me. He said, this is it.

[00:26:55] He said, quote, we don't know a lot about this virus. He said, this virus is probably with us beyond this season, beyond this year. And I think eventually the virus will find a foothold and we will get community-based transmission and that was in the United States, community-based transmission.

[00:27:16] So, the other big terrifying thing on my plate what I've been most worried about when it comes to this stuff is for a long time, I mean the first few weeks I was pretty much like, eh, it'll be fine.

[00:27:28] And I think, you know, the vast majority of the healthy population will be fine but it's probably more economic than anything else but now I'm reading about reinfection. Right. I don't even know what that is. I don't even know how reinfection works. Oh wow.

[00:27:44] Okay, let me talk to this for a second. Yeah. And then you guys can all jump in. But there is some indication because we have no antibodies. No one on the planet has antibodies to this thing, okay? And because of that, you can be reinfected

[00:28:05] and they're finding out that and the doctor, the doctor that blew the whistle on this this may have happened to him that if you get reinfected... Oh ho ho ho! Yeah. That makes so much sense. Yeah. Your body goes into the, uh, oh shoot. Oh it's... Scytica.

[00:28:27] Tell me Jordan. Scytica... Scytica... Oh why not it? Oh, cytokine storms. Yeah, storms, yep that's the one. My favorite word. So, your body has experienced this thing one time and it produced the antibody. The next time you get exposed to it, it goes nuts. Yeah, all that.

[00:28:53] And it starts, yeah, it starts overreacting and that's where you get the buildup of the fluid, the pneumonia and how old was that doctor? Thirty something years old and he died. Oh I'm thinking of a different doctor. I was thinking of that first doctor that died.

[00:29:15] The one in China? I thought he was older that year. Oh he was in his 30s? Oh I didn't know that. He was in his 30s, 30s and that's uncommon for a guy in his 30s to die in pneumonia.

[00:29:27] Anybody know how many re-infection cases there are at the moment? I didn't see anything about that. No right now they don't even know. Well I guess they couldn't know. These are people who could have been asymptomatic the first time or the second time but they're also Satan.

[00:29:43] Some of the medications that they're trying to use to treat the symptoms or even the illness itself has weakened the heart. So by the time you catch the second one your heart just can't hold up. There are 82 clinical trials going on right now for antivirals, herbal medicine.

[00:30:03] China is throwing everything at this. They keep the scene off the table. It's been taken off because it caused more damage than the actual virus itself. So they're saying it may be a year longer before we actually see any sort of vaccine on the table again.

[00:30:20] How many people in Wuhan got scooped up out of their apartment in the middle of the night by the Chinese government and are getting injected with a variety of concoctions to figure out how to fix this thing? That hospital that got put up in what like 10 days,

[00:30:41] wouldn't that be the perfect laboratory? They were all individual cells. I thought you could only open a door from the outside. They had pass through for all their food and stuff. Little pass through portals. Well you saw what it was.

[00:30:55] It was just a bay open with just maybe a small board panel to separate bed from bed. Yeah. And with 82 clinical trials going on for antivirals and possible treatments, they have so many people infected that they can have one group with the drug, one group with a placebo,

[00:31:20] and one group don't get anything just to see what happens. Is that why China is keeping the world out? Well, yeah. They didn't want to see that science going on? Yeah. Now here you got the best in the world at the CDC and they said,

[00:31:40] hey, we'll come in and help you. And China says no. They're only letting the World Health Organization in. And I think they're in bed with the who. Yeah. Did you hear their news conferences? They were totally kissing stuff. Yeah. They are totally in bed with the who. Yeah.

[00:32:00] What was the other thing about that death? It's all about death. Go ahead. I'll remember it or I won't. Well, I've got a quick question. It's hard for me to imagine that this thing is, the more that it goes on, the more that I read about it,

[00:32:17] the freaking epicenter there in China and the amount of people infected in China, it's like, is there any chance that this thing isn't a man made virus? Oh. You know? Yeah. At first I was like, ah, you know, the market idea's really good.

[00:32:37] Now I look back at the market idea and I say, wow, how convenient. A little tale that was to be woven into the situation. We know the lab was local to it. And to be honest with you, some of the information about.

[00:32:50] Well, patient zero didn't actually get it at the fish market. Yeah, exactly. He got it as well as what three other people had it before the fish market. So this is not something that came from that area. Yes, I think it's man made,

[00:33:04] especially when you went through the genomes. Yeah, it went into the fish market. Yeah. Come out of the fish market. I agree with that. Hey, so, okay, everybody's pointing to, well, if they wanted to make a bio weapon, it would be more effective and blah, blah, blah.

[00:33:22] But there's some things that are just too coincidental. Okay. First of all, the center of the outbreak was where they had their bio research lab. Okay. I mean, if that happened at Fort Dietrich, okay, if we had an outbreak here in the United States

[00:33:44] that happened at Fort Dietrich, they'd be saying, holy crap, something got out. Okay. Secondly, they provided the genome for this thing like super instant quick. Well, they had the genome for before I actually printed it out.

[00:34:03] I went back and I was looking at the genome of this virus and it was actually mixed with human DNA back in 2018. Okay. So that's, I'm not a conspiracy guy, but. There goes the disclaimer. It was interesting to look at the sequence.

[00:34:23] Now, how did they provide that so darn quick? I mean, okay. Can I give you my theory? Go ahead. Because it's not exciting, but it just seems to be possible. I think because of the asymptomatic nature of it.

[00:34:45] Well, here's the other thing and you guys can correct me if I'm wrong because I'm speaking way out of pocket on a lot of this stuff, but just let me finish then you can berate me. We have other coronavirus type issues around the world, right? Yes.

[00:35:01] So it would make sense that China in their lab could have been creating a virus looking to create a cure for another virus, right? Because that's kind of how that works. I think. Yeah. And it could all be benign.

[00:35:18] One guy could make a mistake in decontamination on the way out of the lab. Nobody knows about it. He probably doesn't even know about it. There's no symptoms so he doesn't know about it for a while.

[00:35:32] He heads out of work for the weekend, goes to the club, whatever he does, spreads the thing all over the place and then realizes, oh shit, this is what I did. Or someone that he works with realizes, look at these symptoms,

[00:35:47] look at this situation, let's look at it against the genome of the cure virus or whatever you would call it that we were working on. And China, the Chinese government finds out about it and goes into total overload mode because they realize what they've done.

[00:36:03] I mean to a guy who likes to write fiction, that seems like a realistic situation. Not like some cabal up in the Chinese government, like let's release this on the population and cut down. We don't have enough rice. It seems like we made a huge mistake.

[00:36:19] It was benign. We were working on this thing to help cure SARS or something else. And it got out, we screwed up. Don't let anybody find out we screwed up because this thing is going to wreck the economy

[00:36:30] across the whole world and somebody's going to have to pay for that. Yeah, but we screwed up. So let's see if we can contain it. Okay, we can't contain it. And now here we are, February 17th. But it's mutated so quickly. That just, you know, that's my theory.

[00:36:45] Not based off of anything, but just intuition. Well yeah, I mean it's not out of the realm of possibility. Anybody that says, oh this didn't come. If they say it did not come definitively, I'm like, how the hell do you know? Right.

[00:37:03] See and I don't think, you know, I'm probably a little more cynical in my thought of it because when I looked back at the genomes, the beta corona that they were studying has been studied since 2012. It didn't show any interaction with any sort of DNA until 2018.

[00:37:18] I mean, it just, for me it is does seem a bit odd. They were playing with it. And but they could have been an accidental exposure. I mean that happens, one pinprick in your PPE and your SOL. You just lost half the audio. Oh sorry.

[00:37:34] When I had my PPE I was SOL too. And if you're SOL, I'm not going to tell you what that one is. If you don't know what SOL is by now, I'm sorry. You're SOL. Right. You're up to pre- without the paddle. I like that.

[00:37:48] Hey look, it's, I look at it this way. The fact that nobody's got an answer is what makes me as nervous as I am about that possibility. You know, there's just no, and China's at the point now where they cannot admit fault. No.

[00:38:07] Because the thing is going to have a little bit of a problem. Let's weld the door shut on a bunch of apartments and let them just die out. Yeah. Oh God. Oh that's what they do. Yeah. They change doors shut, they chain gates. They welded them.

[00:38:22] Here's the thing. People are asking, you know, what should we do? And you have to look at what China did. Okay. Now not that we could do that in the United States but they went to some drastic, drastic measures

[00:38:41] to be able to try and get this thing under control. And that, did you see the video of the dorm, the college dorm that they turned into a quarantine thing? And they just go into this college dorm and take the people's crap and throw it out the window.

[00:39:01] To be, yeah to be policed up. Yeah. To be policed up, thrown away all your shit in your dorm just got thrown away and we're taking over. I mean these steps, these measures that they're taking by anybody's standard is pretty darn extreme. Okay?

[00:39:22] So they know what they have on hand. They know. And that's the scary part about the United States too because the United States has no capability to lock down 56 million people. It's never going to happen.

[00:39:38] There are people who are going to go stir crazy and leave just to be leave. Well just from like a human rights standpoint, they could never get away with it. Hey we were going over what you guys are doing right? What are you guys doing?

[00:39:54] I told you I drew money out. I've changed my trigger. Well that's good. I've changed my trigger. Trigger is not death. Trigger is going to be within so many vicinity of the state itself because of how highly contagious it is.

[00:40:09] My trigger has been changed and it will change again as the virus progresses. So I'm more or less in standby with my trigger until I see something else. Okay I'm doing an AR build and I thought you were talking about the hell. Oh no, no, no.

[00:40:28] Who was she doing that? That's what Dave had called it was his trigger so I just don't have a trigger now. What is going to get you to go into lockdown mode at your house? That's your trigger.

[00:40:42] I'll tell you what, I told you guys, I don't know if I told the audience, we'll just have to tell them now whatever, that I was starting to write a small kind of coronavirus preparedness e-book for everybody

[00:40:55] and one of the things that when I was sitting down and brainstorming and putting it together, this is something we haven't done yet but it's something that I want to mention because the audience

[00:41:07] and everyone else probably needs to think about it is there's a section in there about the five conversations that you need to have in the ASAP. You know, and one of those conversations that Lady Liberty probably is going to have to have is that one with her boss

[00:41:24] and probably a lot of people out there listening are due a conversation with their boss to say just like what Jordan said, you know, there's going to likely come a time if these infections keep going up

[00:41:38] and going up, there's going to come a time when you probably go into your boss's office and say, hey look, if this happens I ain't coming. You know, I just got to brace them for it and maybe even put some part time,

[00:41:52] I don't know the lingo, some kind of disability or whatever it is that you can, what is that thing that you take when you have a baby and you're off for a while? Fraternity. Not that one, there's another one. Maternity. That one won't work for the guys, Dave.

[00:42:07] Family medical. Yeah. I forget what it is but people have it. I've been out of the workforce too long. But you have that paid leave, you know what I mean? That you pay into or the company pays for it.

[00:42:19] The time is that you should probably look at how much PTO and sick time you have too. That too. But do my coworkers know how I feel about things? I've been watching it from beginning to end.

[00:42:30] I'm going to give prime example of how people don't think things through is my coworker thinks that I'm freaking out over the virus and I'm not. I'm watching it. I'm being attentive. I find it fascinating even though it's scary too at the same time.

[00:42:43] Well she goes, oh you're worried about it. Well then the next question, James, you actually chimed in. She asked about the food because pork is killed, pigs are killed here, shipped over there, preserved and packaged and then sent back.

[00:42:54] And she was worried about buying food that was packaged in China. And I actually didn't mean to but I burst it out laughing at her. I said you think I'm scared and you're worried about buying food from China. You would be. Wow. Yeah, no I get it.

[00:43:10] Can I relay a funny story? Yeah let's do it. Okay so I'm over in Saudi Arabia and I call home to my ex-wife.

[00:43:20] Okay some of you have probably already heard this and if you got my DVDs it's on there but I call home, you know we were married for 27 years. So we still had a relationship and everything and hey you know I'm in Saudi Arabia chasing down terrorists.

[00:43:34] How you doing? Everything's going good. She says oh my god I can't get enough duct tape and plastic. And I said what the hell are you into woman? You never did this crap when we were married. And she says no no no.

[00:43:53] Homeland security came on and they said we need duct tape and plastic to put up at our doors and windows. And I'm like holy cow. So this is what panic does. It makes people freak okay.

[00:44:08] So they caused a run on Home Depot and Lowe's like you had never seen. But here's what I told her. I said look you got seven days of sick leave saved up. She said oh yeah I got more than that.

[00:44:23] I said look if something happens take all those days. Okay at the end of those days they'll know what the heck is going on.

[00:44:37] And truly I thought two weeks ago when we did this show that if we did another one in two weeks we would know what the heck is going on. But we are only a little bit closer to what I think is the inevitable.

[00:44:56] And it's the stuff that I talked about two weeks ago. This thing is going to run through the population. I mean 60% of the population will get it. There'll be some people that will be immune to it or and there'll be some people that will be protected from it.

[00:45:17] Okay and then there'll be some people like us who isolate ourselves and never get it. Dave you had asked me to check the you know do those graphs for like America and all. Yes it affected workforce. So the effect of workforce if this runs its course in America 90% 90.1%.

[00:45:39] Right. So nine out of 10 people are going to be affected at you know not show up to work every day or whatever 90%. How does that work? That doesn't work. No. That means the lights go out the water stops running that is the SDF.

[00:45:58] It's going to be a degradation across the board. I mean when we do a pandemic exercise we throw a template on the workforce and we say 40% of the workforce will be out done. They'll either be sick or taking.

[00:46:15] Yeah so you can't run a McDonald's on 40% of the workforce. No way. I mean think about 40% of the independent truckers not driving food to the grocery store. 40%. Now that's 40% of the 60% that will get it. Right.

[00:46:39] Okay so it may it's not going to be the well maybe it will I don't know. You know what will fall down only God knows because you know some areas will be affected more than others. Metropolitan areas are most vulnerable and most at risk. Oh of course.

[00:47:07] And if all the beds in every hospital in every ICU was empty right now we don't have enough beds. Yeah I know I did it I did this calculation for my city town whatever.

[00:47:26] Yes and it needed like it needed like between 83 and 130 beds for the Tri-County area right here. Oh goodness. Then I went through and looked up all the beds that we had between you know the three counties around me. We have like 20 I mean 21, 2300 so 2000.

[00:47:48] Yeah it just there's not enough beds. There's not enough hospitals. No. I mean 12. And we thought we had you know we have all these teaching hospitals and all this other stuff. Yeah it doesn't matter.

[00:48:03] We have two hospitals between three counties they shut down the one that was here that was a six bed. There's not enough even at one of the major hospitals.

[00:48:12] Correct so that you know you have to ask why did China build that hospital in 10 days because they had to. Yep so here's a question. Go ahead. Who said it hold on I'm over here monitoring the chat. What are you. Which is a beautiful thing.

[00:48:31] The chat is blowing up. Yeah absolutely gorgeous. You want me to repeat what are you said? I'm looking for the 360 million quarantine. Yeah he said China has quarantined 360 million people the population of the United States are we going to tolerate that approach here.

[00:48:48] So here's my question and Dave you probably might be the man to answer this. When this quarantine become a waste of time. Governmentally speaking right because you got 360 million people quarantined is it working anymore or are you just doing it just to do it at this point.

[00:49:10] Like well we did quarantine fail in other words. Right well it it fails as it did in China because they told them you got 48 hours. To get out of Wuhan.

[00:49:24] And all the planes took off and all the planes took off and all the trains anyway anybody could get out of Wuhan they did. Have you seen the graphics of that. Then when they did it for the larger areas they gave them like 24 hours notice. Everybody left.

[00:49:45] It's like what the hell the quarantine is only effective if it's a surprise. Oh God. Okay well and then look how many in incoming and outcome in planes from China in the surrounding areas of these quarantine cities it's not doing any good.

[00:50:03] No and how long did it take us to stop the flights and we got international outrage. Oh the Americans are xenophobic and crap. And even Australia took heat. You know they're like a race you're a race. Put them on an island. Yeah I know. Christmas Island or whatever.

[00:50:25] Yeah. Yeah and they they didn't want the Chinese students coming back from their New Year celebration and they're like you're a racist. No we're looking out for Australia. Well don't forget Australia was just like on fire on top of it all. They haven't figured that out yet.

[00:50:45] Can I interject real quick? Go ahead. Yeah. So Krista asked you know when the question is when to stop working in Buggin which we had mentioned the triggers but then Jen had asked how long can people go without a paycheck not long.

[00:50:58] So I think that's a good reason why Dave is also holding out a bit of cash is having some sort of financial funds available is going to be pertinent because if you think about it if we do hit some sort of economic collapse or so many 80% what you said 60% of the workforce is sick.

[00:51:15] 60% will get. Right what you got to look at is how many people are going to actually be in the bank. Right. When are you going to find a bank that's actually open within your area to be able to pull money. Right.

[00:51:29] That could be part of that trigger protocol. That might be the last thing that you do. Right. Go make some yanking out of the ATM but you can only get so much money out so. At a time that's why I started two weeks ago.

[00:51:46] I think it's a good move. I've been socking it away here you know I figured if I got to stay in this house for an extended period of time and we ain't even talked about that yet and we're at 53 minutes. Dang what a show tonight. Why.

[00:52:04] Yeah we got to stay in this house for an extended period of time. How much cash do I need to be able to get whatever supplies I may need. You know and it was in the chat room too about the masks and all that.

[00:52:23] Home Depot still has them. Harbor Freight still has them. I've got a good Home Depot story. Go ahead. So a person I know has a spouse that works at Home Depot and they they. So it looks like my big brother got rid of me again.

[00:52:44] Oh OK you're back. So they remember what I was saying. No that's all right. So they told a story that someone came in bought a pallet not just a case but a pallet full of masks and shipped them back to China.

[00:53:01] Yeah and that's in my hometown and there you know. Wow. Wow. So here's another take on economy. Well here's a take on because this is something that I've kind of been thinking about from the bug in perspective.

[00:53:19] So you talk about the workforce taking a hit and you talk about still maybe having to pay some bills.

[00:53:26] Right now I don't know how that's what that's going to look like or how long that's going to be an issue or whatever but I as long as you have access. It seems like digital currency kind of is the pandemic's best friend right.

[00:53:45] I mean when you think about it like you don't want to change hands with right items and cash too much with too many people unless you really trust and know their situation.

[00:53:58] So it's there like I said the Internet goes off your screwed but man it seems like digital communications the digital currency is about as safe as you're going to get it when it comes to that type of thing. Yeah.

[00:54:14] It's kind of that weird yin and yang of it you know you almost yeah I don't know it's a weird one. Yeah it's definitely a weird one.

[00:54:22] Well you know when you put that card in that machine to pay for things and everybody else has touched those same buttons. Yeah man. Okay and you whip out your neoprene gloves and you put those on before you touch the buttons people look at your funny. I bet.

[00:54:42] Yeah that's it's all up in the air some things especially when it comes to this level of a situation. Yes. It's one of those situations where you don't really know how it's going to go. Yeah.

[00:54:58] You don't really know who's going to come out on top and what things are going to be like like there's going to be some preps that you go. Duh. Why didn't I think of that. You know. Yes.

[00:55:10] Well again you need to think about how to maintain your family and yourself that means keeping everybody entertained if that means a few extra craft items to keep your toddlers or your children entertained by all means do it. Yeah.

[00:55:23] You know it's not even water it's sustaining yourself you know whether it be clothes shoes deodorant toothpaste hair shampoo toilet paper you know it's not limited one to one thing you got to think about the fact if you're going to self contain for 30 days or whatever your time limit is.

[00:55:39] Yeah. How long can you go without actually stepping out.

[00:55:43] Hey we got to bring this up real quick because this is vital I don't I can't remember if I'm allowed to talk about who who is doing this so if you know who is doing this don't say it and they can divulge it if they feel like it and there may be an article written it on it already but I don't know.

[00:56:01] Yeah. Chris that brought it up obviously there's going to be a tremendous push to order things online and use digital payment and Chris said order online use digital payment don't touch anyone and I know somebody who has been on a package decontamination protocol. Yes.

[00:56:23] I think that's a I think that's probably something if you're going to legitimately bug in and you have hit your trigger. That's a big deal.

[00:56:33] You know especially numbers get high in the US if they get high US on is decontaminate and so I was watching Dr. John I don't I don't have a link on my phone but he was stating when people were asking about alcohol the last few times you had brought it up or that last time I brought it up.

[00:56:52] I don't know if I brought it up is hand alcohol gels are not going to be as effective because they're only 40% alcohol you need a 70% isoprolol or higher to be able to kill any of the virus so washing your hands is going to be your best bet hand sanitizers are not going to be as effective.

[00:57:10] Good to know. Hey and there's a patreon video for you the proper way to wash your hands. Oh man I'm a master you know that from food safety that is something I do that video all the time. Yeah do that video.

[00:57:26] That's not a big call because people now they're saying sing twice. Well no that's that's a different song. That's the protocol. Yeah that's the most that's what we would train most recently was happy birthday twice. Hey James can you play a commercial I gotta go.

[00:57:46] I don't think we need a commercial. We got two other people to talk to right. We're good. Hey look though let's let's jump into this real quick.

[00:57:59] I don't I don't know if Dave's coming back or not if anybody else has to go you let me know I don't really care how long this thing goes as long as it's good. I think he had a small break is what he meant.

[00:58:10] I figured as much but that was that was pretty abrupt but anyhow. I got a list here this was something that found its way into our discord server that I wanted to give to the audience.

[00:58:23] For what it's worth it's probably worth noting this is the list of quarantine camps in the U.S. So these are the various military bases that have been outfitted as quarantine on the U.S. that have been outfitted as quarantine operations and I don't know if everybody.

[00:58:44] Me Gray in the chat room says operation yellow flow. Jesus. Oh that's great. So you know if you hear your city obviously pay close attention Atlanta Georgia we have Dobbins air reserve base. Chicago Illinois Great Lakes Training Center Navy base I thought they were called naval bases.

[00:59:07] Dallas Texas Naval Air Station Joint Reserve base Detroit Michigan Fort Custer Training Center Fairfield California Travis Air Force Base. Fort Carson Colorado Fort Carson Honolulu Hawaii Honolulu what I say Honolulu Hawaii J.B. Pearl Harbor Hickam New York New York how big is Fort Hamilton that

[00:59:37] thing better be huge New York New York New Jersey Joint Base McGuire Dix Lakehurst Omaha Nebraska Camp Ashland Riverside California

[00:59:47] San Antonio, Texas, San Diego California's got a hell of a lot of quarantine spots Marine Corps Air Station Miramar is there something to that because California has the most cases too by far.

[01:00:05] Seattle Washington right Seattle Washington Naval Base Kisap and DC this is the one closest to me DC Joint Base. San Acostia. So if you heard your cross river. Yeah, if you heard your city.

[01:00:22] You may want to do some due diligence and just pay close attention to who's going and who's leaving and that type of thing I don't know I'm not saying inherently that having a quarantine camp close by means that the disease is going to spread in your area obviously that is the opposite of what they're set up for.

[01:00:40] Speaking of that, I told y'all about the fan I was watching some interviews about people who are on the quarantine basis and one of them was in Miramar and another in the states further up but what they're letting them do is they're actually letting

[01:00:57] people to walk outside and walk around so if this is completely aerosolized then they've not had done anything well in containing these individuals who have been they had two people at one of the bases come back positive after and are now hospitalized in quarantine.

[01:01:14] Beyond the actual quarantine on the base. If you're looking at the fact that this is definitely aerosolized and they're letting these people walk outside and be exposed to these other people. They're they've not they've not they're not containing the actual problem hand.

[01:01:33] So what they do is they set up like the on post bachelor's quarters or something like that and then they put a little fence around it.

[01:01:42] Yes, and they can go outside but they can't go beyond the fence and they got security making sure that they don't go beyond the fence.

[01:01:51] But these places are usually located in the high traffic areas of a base next to the PX the commissary you know all the places that yeah the shop and the other house and area in their housing area.

[01:02:08] Hey Lucky had a question he says how do we get access to the discord server. That's a great question. You know what are you feeling lucky you're a patron out I'll talk to you offline about that.

[01:02:26] Yeah, but it will be we will when we open up the EOC. Okay. When we pull the trigger you guys will have access to all kinds of information. Yeah, definitely that.

[01:02:43] But for patrons I may consider pulling a few of you founder you founders in there there's some founding patrons that really kicked the thing off and I may yank some of you guys in there.

[01:02:55] As things get more and more crazy just you have first first hand access but yeah when we launched the EOC that's one of our game plans is to start funneling the information into a into a larger discord chat built for the prepper broadcasting network audience so you guys can kind of get the information that we're getting.

[01:03:15] Good question though. Yeah and right now right now it's chin and me and whoever comes across something we we fling it to chin. He puts it in there. Usually he has it before we even fling it to him but. And it's basically sanitary.

[01:03:34] Yeah, I'm flinging stuff around flinging that aerosol. You can go back through in time and see what we saw when and be able to get yourself all caught up on the information that we have. And I'm trying to do screenshots to capture.

[01:03:52] Yes, information because sometimes it has a sneaky way of not showing up when you go back to look at it. Things do disappear. Mm-hmm or get changed. Just saying yeah. I love doing a lot of this stuff. I love that.

[01:04:09] I sent chin a video and it was a newscast from Australia and by the time he clicked on it it was already gone. They would not let anybody see it outside the country of Australia.

[01:04:24] Like Dave you got a VPN or something where are you coming in from because I can't get to it. Yeah. I download the video as if I see and it's interesting. I immediately download it so it's safe to my computer.

[01:04:40] Hey, what else are you guys doing because I've been doing stuff in the past two weeks I've been doing stuff. What else are you guys doing? I'm sorry Dave I've got questions. Oh go ahead. I've got more questions.

[01:04:57] One of the big one is and this is you know when I first started watching the thing and I said to myself this is here we are they've got several tens of thousands of cases in China we've got like eight right this is when we first started watching it.

[01:05:16] Right. And I said to myself well you know we'll keep an eye on it and see what happens. Yeah. China has 70 what 70 some thousand cases. Yeah. Oh God that you know the next the next largest noted confirmed cases per county and per region is Diamond Princess with 454.

[01:05:40] You're right. That's hilarious. But anyway Japan is number two. Anyway the question actually Singapore looks like it's up now with 77. Yeah 77. Yeah. But check this out.

[01:05:53] You looked at eight cases and you say to yourself we'll keep an eye on it right now I'm looking at the United States of America at 15 cases and I'm asking an entirely different question. How the hell do we only have 15 cases. Yes. That's a great question.

[01:06:11] That's accurate at all. No because we just know 40 of them flew in on Sunday. Right. But they're not counting in cases that have shown up here. So what they're what they're not they're not counting the people they're bringing in with it.

[01:06:25] They're only counting the people who have tested positive with it while they're still in the United States. I see what they're doing. Yeah. They're not showing those that they brought in. And like China was doing. Right.

[01:06:38] So but the thing is there's got to be more with as many people as just the one in San Diego was exposed to. Many other and you got to think about the woman who got it from her husband in Illinois.

[01:06:50] There's no way she didn't go to school functions or the store or the mall and not expose someone to it. So how many of the flu cases are not the flu but this. Well I've been talking to my wife that's right.

[01:07:04] I've definitely been a couple weeks ago I was making jest on just that I was saying honey we were all sick already. And we probably already had it.

[01:07:16] But they're not testing people for the flu here anymore because they ran out of flu tests and my friend who got sick the doctor said oh you sound like you have the flu symptoms she goes to heck she she goes for all I know you could have the coronavirus and I wouldn't know about it and walked off.

[01:07:32] This is my coworker I'm like well that's relieving to know.

[01:07:35] Well I mean how can you have this is the craziest one about America and I know it was really fun to like poke fun at the communist China and how they were bullshitting but how can you have two cases in Los Angeles.

[01:07:51] Right what we have a highly highly. And you've got to look at this when I say this please don't don't take it ugly but how many of them are young single men or young men or even just men in general and not or women.

[01:08:07] But because if you think about it this virus is an RNA based okay it replicates the same way almost like HIV does it is sexually transmitted through all of the fluids as well as cough kiss and touch and defecate and so how many people are not already infected if not spouses.

[01:08:25] Or girlfriends or friends or whatever. There's a couple of things I want to point out here and it came out in all the conversation. First of all government information at best is slow at worst it's completely inaccurate.

[01:08:43] Number two you know a guy emailed me and he told him he said hey what about all these quarantine sites and all these people and blah blah blah. I said it's not the quarantine sites or the people in quarantine that I'm afraid of.

[01:09:00] Yeah it's the people that are not and we know absolutely for a fact there's people running around right now that have it and don't know they have it. So this model that that chin did for the United States it doubles every six days.

[01:09:25] Okay so now if you look back at when we started this two weeks ago it pretty much holds to that pattern because they haven't updated their information from the people that are flying over right now that are infected.

[01:09:43] So if you look at the number we have right now in the United States it will double in six days and in six days this is that old thing where I'll pay you a penny every day you come to work.

[01:09:57] And at the end of the month you'll be a millionaire. You see what I mean? Sure. The only way it stops is we get that R not figure to go down.

[01:10:12] We plugged it into the to the program model at 2.8 which means one person will infect 2.8 people and that's not outrageous. That's pretty much middle of the road or what they've figured out. We've seen off the three and four and even higher.

[01:10:32] Yes so that's pretty much what they figured out and that's the middle of the road for what this thing is. And at 2.8 chin tell us where we're going to be in about 30 days. Well it's going on.

[01:10:48] So I started on the first of this month which is ridiculous but so if we started at the first. Yes. At the end of next month we have total infected 88. Okay.

[01:11:04] From one person if just one person came in on February in right in the end of two months we have 88 people infected. Yes. Not 15. No not too early. Yeah.

[01:11:19] And then go another month past that go about five six weeks past that and we're 1700 so that's three and a half months where it's 1700. Infected. Yeah I'll tell you what man. From one person from one single original person. Yeah we're way past that.

[01:11:48] Yeah I'll tell you what I think the greatest prep of all at this point is your physical condition. Yes.

[01:11:58] For the immunity to rest to physical fitness level to diet I think is I think it's going to be you know there'll be those people who get it in dying.

[01:12:06] No matter how good a shape they are because you know I don't know what that's called but that's a thing right people get a certain disease. Right.

[01:12:13] Because it just you know it kicks some kicks them in a way they didn't expect it but I think for the majority of the population it's going to be the people with the strong immunity that that handles it is particularly if you run into a situation where you know the hospitals are full.

[01:12:33] So you're going to go. I can't say can we jump into a part of the you know the little bit of the list. Yeah sure. So this virus replicates in your body by your A.C.E. two okay everybody has it men produce it more than women.

[01:12:53] So that I think that's something we should start talking about and maybe Chin or Dave can explain it better than I can.

[01:12:59] But what you're looking at is women are getting it but it seems like there's more men sick with it than women and also certain ethnic groups than others because of this A.C.E. which is a genetic you know it's in certain certain genes and certain ethnicities.

[01:13:16] Yes I mean there's definitely there's definitely I mean there's so many parts and pieces that it gets to the point where for me I've got to simplify. You know what I mean I have to I have to simplify or go crazy. Yeah.

[01:13:37] So it really comes down to when do we make the decision. What do we have at home to be at home for a long enough time and we've got it and boosting immunity of the children in particular but everyone in the household to assure that.

[01:13:55] Because I mean at the end of the day if you wake up and your husband has it or your wife has it. Yeah hospitals you have it. That's it. You've got to say we did our best.

[01:14:07] Let's see how this thing works out unless the only other thing that I don't have that I that I'm pondering but I don't really want to get crazy is oxygen tanks and masks.

[01:14:27] You know we were talking about preps and stuff and I actually got something that was on my list but it was way down on my list.

[01:14:37] You know what an oxygen concentrator was is yes my mom got one when she had COPD and it makes oxygen out of the air and should have found one for like a hundred and eighty bucks.

[01:14:53] And I thought OK if one of us gets on you and we need oxygen I can administer it myself. Yeah that's where so Dave remember like three weeks ago I got up with you and said how am I going to quarantine my house right. Right.

[01:15:11] We had that discussion. Yeah. Then after we had the Super Bowl get together. Yeah. I was like how we get a court. Is it even possible.

[01:15:23] I mean you're saying if you're like if my wife gets it or if your kid gets it you the chances that you have in it is you got it already. Right. So you're not going to quarantine one person out of the family. So I kind of switch to.

[01:15:37] Yeah. So I kind of switch to staying healthy and what can I stock that will help if I do get this. Yes. Keeping it just a mild case so it doesn't go to severe or ICU needed. Right.

[01:15:56] So that's like this this oxygen machine that they make oxygen out of the air we breathe. Right. Yeah. Well what it does is it strips away the nitrogen so you get your oxygen and it will go up to six liters. Okay.

[01:16:13] And the first thing I got and I got this a while back because it's one of those little things that you put on your finger and it tells you your oxygen level. What. It's called a pulse ox. There you go. Yeah. It does the pulse and the oxygen.

[01:16:30] I mean they're they're inexpensive. They're on Amazon. They're like 11. Always had them on sale last week. Yeah. Always. Yes. I'm telling you. They're $18 at always 80. Well I got one and you know what they say that if your oxygen level gets below 93 you should go on oxygen.

[01:16:52] This is one of the indicators. Right. That you're having difficulty breathing your oxygen level goes down. You need support and that's when you do it. So I see them for like 600 on the Internet here. Yeah. Concentrators. Oh no there's a little clip thing to put on your finger.

[01:17:14] It has a digital readout on the top of it. No. I'm not going to concentrate. You can look at CVS or Walgreens for a pulse ox even Walmart sells them. Yeah. Yeah. They're cheap.

[01:17:28] I thought that would be a good indicator whether it's something that I can keep working on at home or if my level gets too low I'm going to have to. Yeah. You know a stethoscope wouldn't be a bad thing either.

[01:17:39] If you're familiar with it anybody who knows anytime you get fluid in your lungs especially with pneumonia it's almost like a crackling sound when you listen to it. Like almost like crinkling paper right in your ear. So it's definitely an idea to maybe get one of those.

[01:17:56] So if you are treating someone at least then you can follow the progression and have some idea of what it is you want to do next. There just the migraine just put in a link to the. Oh yeah. I'm just Googling myself. Yeah. There you go.

[01:18:14] I picked one up for like 180 bucks. You're talking about the concentrator. I don't know. Yeah the concentrator. Yeah. Yeah he's talking about the oxygen. That's not a bad price. I know if you need oxygen what are you going to do? You know and it was on my list.

[01:18:34] It's not something that I freaked out and went and bought okay. In my medical supply list I got things that I want to get and it was one of the things because I want to be able to administer oxygen and so it just came to the top of

[01:18:51] my list now. I feel like we've hit a point of realizing yes we can do what we can to prevent it but we also need to know what we can do to treat it because with it having such a high infection

[01:19:03] rate there is a chance and my household if we're saying well you're saying nine out of ten will get it. Well then just about if not everybody in my house will get it so I need to know how to treat myself and my family.

[01:19:16] And it's not a death sentence. They need to know how to treat you. No it's not. It's not a death sentence so you know if you play your cards right you get it and you survive it right? Yeah. Right.

[01:19:27] I did the vitamin protocol for like four days and had to quit. It was rough. You mean the vitamin C? Vitamin C. All vitamin C, D that whole thing that I did on the last episode we were already on it.

[01:19:46] Okay when I was telling you what the breakdown was oh my god that lasted four days and I had to quit so we're going to go back on that if it comes here and if we need to protection.

[01:20:00] Hey just stick with the C. The C is where it's at. Yeah I grabbed C but I didn't overdo it like I thought I'd ease into it. Yeah see vitamin D is a great natural antiviral so that is definitely one that stays in my cabinet.

[01:20:15] I take vitamin D every day anyways but it's definitely something that I pull out of my little handy book of tricks when one of my kids catch some sort of virus. Which one did you say like D for Delta or B for brother? D for Delta. Delta?

[01:20:30] Okay good. It's because I have 5,000 units a day so you can take up to so much but usually the max dose I've seen as prescription is 50,000 units a week and then that's

[01:20:42] once a one day out of the whole week so my doctor and I had spoken when I got sick is I could take up to 10,000 units a day to help remove a virus. I like it.

[01:20:54] I think we might as well reconvene next Monday for those who are available. You wanted to do it next Monday or Monday? I was thinking we needed at least two weeks because that plane landed yesterday just like Super Bowl was yesterday. Okay last time we met.

[01:21:12] I want to see. Let's put it tentatively for next Monday if things don't look like that. What I'm worried about is I mean whoever can get on can get on right but if we have an explosive week it'll probably be worth getting on.

[01:21:27] It's got to pick up here in the United States pretty soon. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But I think probably tonight we should call it. What do you guys think? Yeah I agree a thousand percent. Everybody feel good? We'll follow. I'm healthy.

[01:21:44] We'll mention that they are saying now that they may be able to detect this virus sooner with an X-ray than by with a swab or a test because it's taken too long. That makes sense. That's a good call. Because they can look into the lungs. Right.

[01:22:00] They can look at the lower half of the respiratory tract a lot better than trying to stick a Q-tip all the way to the sinus cavity. Yeah, that sounds like fun. Okay, the chat room is saying every Monday from now on.

[01:22:13] I don't have a problem with it but we'll see. We'll touch base on it. You know we all talk anyway during the week so I really do appreciate it though guys. These are getting better and better and it's not because the news is getting juicier and juicier.

[01:22:29] It's because we're getting a handle on this whole protocol that we're working now and you know we're starting to figure out what the deal is. So I really do appreciate you guys taking an hour and almost an hour and a half out of

[01:22:42] your night on a Monday night to hang out with the audience. I appreciate you out there listening. Great group in the chat room too by the way, that's always phenomenal. You will know when we decide to engage the EOC here at the Prep

[01:22:58] of Broadcasting Network and that will be not a good sign but it'll be a sign. Alright folks, I do appreciate it. It's been a great one and hey hopefully we get next Monday and nothing's changing. You don't hear from us.

[01:23:13] I guess that's the way to look at it but until next time we'll talk soon. Don't forget tomorrow night is the double header. Patreon hour hour, the next generation, huge night, the double barrel shotgun on Tuesdays and I'll see you later.

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