FOIL FRIDAY: Church & State - There's No Such Thing as AIDS with David Rasnick PhD

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Well, it's a pleasure to be with you, but the AIDS thing is sort of old now because you've seen the hearings with Fauci and all that, you know, and committed all those crimes for four decades, well, there never was an AIDS epidemic, if you want to get right into that. And that will be coming out. And I collaborated with Professor Peter Duisburg at UC Berkeley. I joined up with him in 1996. We worked together for a little over two decades on cancer and AIDS. And Peter was a member of the National Academy of Sciences. He had the Outstanding Investigator grant. And he was the world authority on retroviruses. And when he wrote an article, an invited article in Cancer Research in 1987 that completely shot down Robert Gallo's HIV, he knew it wasn't true. It was crap. And then they shut down Peter. They took all his grant support, and he couldn't be interviewed on any network or anything. And the same thing is happening to me right now with my new book. I don't mean not being interviewed or being interviewed, but they're still putting the brakes on trying to keep it from getting to too many people. And that's my new book. So I know I'm talking a long time, but I've cut to the chase. Well, and no, I appreciate this. And of course, you're censored. I'm not surprised by that at all. Thank God for alternative media that can bypass some of it, although we get suppressed as well. What you just said, though, even though for somebody like you, you're ready to put it to bed. There is no AIDS issue here. HIV does not cause AIDS. For a lot of the audience, what you just said is rather shocking. And let me say this. I remember as a child, in the 80s, and Ryan White appeared, and he was everywhere. I'm sure you know who I'm talking about. Who was that? Ryan White. He was a boy that ended up, I think he was a hemophiliac, and he ended up getting. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, and he was in. All the newspapers, all the magazines, and I remember reading about him, and honestly, it was the first time I think most Americans had ever heard of this, and it set the stage for a lot of us to be kind of in fear of what is AIDS and how do you get this? And we're worried about blood transfusions and things like that. But I think that was the moment in American. History where we all collectively understood what it was. And now you're coming out and actually you've been working on this for a very long time. Um, And you're saying that HIV does not cause AIDS, and you've actually been able to back it up. You've gone to Africa, and you've treated people using alternative medicine. I'm a scientist. I'm not a physician. I haven't treated anybody with anything other than criticism and as much truth as I can handle. Okay, but there is alternative treatments for AIDS that is based. Off of your work. Let me set the stage right. There never was an AIDS epidemic. Never, ever was an AIDS epidemic. The CDC knew as early as 1982 that what was called GRID at the time for gay-related immune deficiency that was in the gay communities in New York, San Francisco, and Los Angeles, that it was due to these nitrite inhalants, these poppers, these things that these guys would inhale in the nightclubs. And it would be so thick in the atmosphere, you could see it like fog. I'm a chemist. Amyl and butyl nitrite are carcinogenic. They're extremely toxic. I would not open a bottle of that stuff outside of a fume hood. And these guys were inhaling it on a regular basis. And they knew, they actually understood what was going on. And the gay guys themselves made AIDS started declining in mid-80s because they already understood it was their behavior with these chronic drugs. And like I said before, that was called GRID at the time. And the CDC understood what it was, and the gay men did too. And then the thing that happened was, it was Reagan's first term in office, and AIDS had not been— they changed the name to AIDS later, from GRID to AIDS. And they brought in Margaret Heckler, Secretary of Health and Human Services, April 23, 1984, to bring out Robert Gallo, and she said he had discovered the probable cause of AIDS. Well, he hadn't. was totally bogus. It was one of his three bogus viruses. And in the late 80s, he was convicted of scientific misconduct by the federal government, not in a criminal court, but in the administrative thing. And the government couldn't have him being convicted, so they neutralized that, and they wanted to have another trial. And the people that brought up the case against Gallo at the time realized the government was never, ever going to let them convict this guy because he was their AIDS guy, and they wanted AIDS to be a big thing. They brought in Anthony Fauci in November of 1984. That's when he started at the National Institutes at the NIAID, and he was one of the guys that turned 29-some-odd totally unrelated diseases into into AIDS. And he had been doing that for ever since then, about 40 years. The AIDS, the MERS, the Zika, the Ebola, the SARS, the COVID, the SARS-1, the SARS-2. All those are totally bogus. They're all inventions. They never happened. They label things that have nothing to do with an infectious disease as an infectious disease. All right. Now, I know that's a lot for a lot of people to swallow right now. But it's well documented. Peter Duisburg's written many books about it. I've written books about it. You can go to my website. I've got over 40 years of information on my website, davidrasnick.com. You can download books Peter wrote, books that I've written, papers like that. And thank goodness for these hearings where they brought Anthony Fauci up and all these crimes that he committed. At least now it's More or less in the public domain, you know, like, you know, your type of media. I don't mean like the major mainstream media. Of course, the Democrats never showed up at the hearings, you know, because they didn't want to be embarrassed with it. So anyway, I mean, you can see that we— I' m trying to set 40 years of history, over 40 years of history straight here. The assumptions about AIDS, your assumption that there was such a thing as AIDS, people were getting sick and were dying, but they knew what it was. And then they brought this thing in and turned it into a sexually transmitted thing, which it was not. you know. And then they've killed AZT. That was the first AIDS drug that was brought in towards the end of the 80s. And John Larson, a journalist— he was a gay journalist. He was a friend of mine. He's no longer with us anymore, unfortunately— he And he told me in the 1990s that AZT had killed over 330,000 gay men. Wow. And these sorts of things are still going on. The COVID injections have killed millions of people. There's nothing new here. It's just escalating bigger and bigger and bigger. And my job right now, as I can see it right now, is to make people turn off Oh, this guy's nuts. Okay, we don't want him anyhow. Or the other people, let's check on this guy. Go to my website. Go to the other people. Go to Duesberg's website. I've done interviews with Catherine Austin Fitz on her thing, with Children's Health Defense, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. I helped edit his book, The Real Anthony Fauci. I was one of many editors on that thing. And with Children's Health Defense, I've done a number of interviews with those folks. They know me well on the cancer stuff, on the AIDS stuff, all of this sorts of stuff. So when you bring it up, you know, your assumption is that AIDS is what you think it is. No, it is not. It's not a contagious disease. SARS is not a— the COVID— COVID never existed. Did you know, if you look at the statistics— There were fewer all-cause mortalities in the United States in 2020 than the previous five years. Where is the pandemic in a year where you had fewer deaths than the previous five years? Total nonsense. But they got away with it, didn't they? Yeah, they absolutely did. Exactly. Yeah, and I mean, when the leaders of our medicine, of our science are all part of a, in my opinion, a Luciferian death cult, these are the individuals who've read the population bomb. They think they need to decrease the amount of people on the world. It would make sense that they would engineer or just form flat out fake a virus or a disease so that they can feed you the drugs, feed you the vaccine to kill you off. I mean, I'm definitely in that camp. But let me dive into the AIDS thing a little bit more, because let's. Go to the continent of Africa. And from what the news media tells us is that this is an epidemic in Africa specifically, that there are just whole families that have been decimated, grandparents that are raising their children because both parents. Have died of AIDS. What say you about this? Is this something entirely different? Is it just malnutrition? Is that what they're dealing with? No. Everything they say is an absolute lie. This is in books. I even wrote it. I think I put that in. Yeah, I did. In my most recent book, the last chapter, this was my book right here, The Outsider's Advantage. A Personal Odyssey into the Essence of Cancer. It got published in April. But go to my website, davidrasnick, D-A-V-I-D-R-A-S-N-I-C-K.com. You'll see all this stuff, the homepage, the AIDS stuff, cancer, 40 years, over 40 years of stuff on there. It's free. You can go in. Yeah, there you go. That's great. You can even scroll down. There's the top. There's AIDS. There's cancer. And then you scroll down here. There's my book, The Outsider, right there. This is great. And then here's a book review that was done by a lady that works for Catherine Austin Fitz right here, The Outsider. You see that of my book right there. And that lady did a very, very nice review. Discipline Minds. I mean, there's so much stuff. And you scroll down, and if you go to the top, If you go to the top, you'll see there's home up there at the top. Then there's AIDS, and AIDS has got decades of stuff in it, cancers, decades of stuff in it. Yeah, it goes like there. You can download Peter Duisburg's books. You can download Inventing the AIDS Virus. You can download his book, Infectious AIDS. Those are Peter's books. Here's my AIDS novel, Germ of Lives. You can download that. And tons and tons of stuff on these things. You click on them, it opens up a whole bunch of other things. And if you go to cancer, up here, click on cancer. And then here's my new book that I'm trying to promote right now that tells this story in plain language for folks. And here's the book right to the right of it. It's the chromosomal imbalance theory of cancer. It has over 1,100 references. I wrote that for cancer researchers. That's why I wrote the other book on the left was for the public. And I'm going to jump into cancer in a minute, sir. I just want to put kind of to rest this AIDS thing. So I'm going to return back to what I was asking about Africa and the claims that are being made by established science and medicine that there's an epidemic over there. So can you answer that? Can you respond to the question there? Yes. It's in my books, but I'll just tell you out straight. The population of Africa has doubled since the AIDS thing. It doubled. The only things that they had all along was poverty and malnutrition. They didn't have anything else. There was never an AIDS epidemic. There was never an Ebola epidemic. The Ebola thing was another Fauci lie. It was basically in these coal mines in one of those central countries there that's always having these revolutions or something, you know, and the people would go down in the gold mines, and they were full of all these toxic chemicals that were used to dissolve stuff and keep the gold. They would come out, but they would be the only ones that got sick and died, not the people that didn't go down in those mines. And the United States, you see, the thing is, in the United States, there's just assertions. There's just assertions that are made by the government, by journalists, no evidence, all right? That's what we scientists do and journalists should do, you know, is look at the evidence. Find the evidence. Totally ignore the assertion other than it directs you towards something to find the evidence that you need to confirm it, refute it, or whatever. That's the key. My books and all of the stuff, I provide the evidence that specifically addresses that thing that you're saying and gives numbers and the references where you can go to get it. I can't. provide all that stuff to you right here. All I can just answer your question is say there was never an AIDS epidemic. And in Africa, the thing is, you go to Africa, no journalist goes there, they just take what the government says, you know? And then people just sort of accept it. Your questions are based on mainstream propaganda, which I mean, government. So those are kind of the, those questions are way, way up, They're obsolete. They're even irrelevant now because we've known for decades it was hogwash. I'm sorry, but I'm just being strict. I appreciate your candidness on this. I'm looking forward to reading the book for sure. Yeah, I definitely will. I'll definitely do my research and have you back on for sure. Okay, so let's move over to the cancer. And you, once again, going back towards what the establishment says about cancer. Now, I've long used. My platform to attack the treatments of cancer, the chemotherapies, the taking tumors and cutting them open so that it floods through the body, the biopsies. I've promoted alternative treatments, Oasis of Hope, for example, and Tijuana. But you have some different theories on this. I'm with you on that one, man. If you go back to my website, we go to the cancer, the cancer one. And this, you could lead other people to it. And I'll just show you those links. Well, what I'm going to be talking about, okay. There's David Hanselman up here at the upper right, right below him, or Theodore Bovary. These two guys at the turn of the 19th, early 20th century, David Hanselman up here, you can click on his image, the guy at the top, and you can download his biography. And I don't really want you to do it right now, but there it is. You can download the whole thing. Go backwards. Let's get back to that page there. And then there's Theodore Boveri in his book, Concerning the Origin of Malignant Tumors. He published it in 2014. He absolutely understood cancer in that time. It's spelled out in plain language. Anybody who understands English can get it. And he died the very next year, 2015. But remember, that's World War I, 14 and 15, all right? And then there was the horrors between the World Wars and the Second World War. So it got lost. And it didn't really get lost, but it just Too many things were interfering with it. And then the hegemony of the world shifted from Europe to the United States after both wars. And then you had Watson and Crick come up with the double helical structure of DNA in 1953. Then everything became molecular and genetic. And they totally forgot about all the stuff that came before, all the things that people had already discovered, and they wanted to make everything molecular. And, of course, the pharmaceutical industry loved that. But now let me tell you what these guys did in a hurry. David Hanselman up here, look, he had really good microscopes and cameras on top of these things. He studied 10,000 cancer cells. No two of them were identical. No two had the same combinations of chromosomes. Humans have 46 chromosomes. 23 come from your mother. 23 come from your father. You know, and we have 10,000 trillion cell divisions in a lifetime in a human being, all right? And all those cells maintain those balanced 46 chromosomes. Every cancer cell doesn't have a balanced set of 46 chromosomes. They have a unique collection of odd combinations of chromosomes. It's called aneuploidy. Ploidy is just a— euploidy is normal. Aneuploidy is an abnormal collection of chromosomes. Hanselman— never saw, out of his 10,000 cancers, he never saw two of them that had the same combination of chromosomes. To this day, every cancer cell that's ever been studied is unique and different in the combination of chromosomes, all right? And that, in the Theodore Boveri, he was a developmental biologist. His background was developmental from a fertilized egg into a frog or whatever. you know, a mouse or something. And that was his thing. But he knew about chromosomes. And he developed a theory and understood. He did some experiments that were very, very ingenious and brilliant. And he came up with a hypothesis. And he wrote it in his book that you can download. It's only 49 pages or 59, something like that. Not a very big book. And he had it nailed. He was absolutely right. It's an abnormal combination of chromosomes that causes cancer and their progression. He got it wrong. And what Peter Duisburg and I did, one of the blessings when he lost his grant funding, he finally got to work on the aneuploidy theory of cancer. Theodor Boveri's work in 1997, Peter and I joined up in 1996, but he went on sabbatical in 1997 in Germany to study Theodor Boveri's aneuploidy theory of cancer. And he did that for 20 years. He did the experimental evidence, and I did the theoretical stuff about how the progression is everything. And we published a lot of books on that, a lot of papers on that. We had three international conferences on that. We also did it on AIDS, too. But we had three international, very productive conferences on the aneuploidy chromosomal imbalance theory of stuff. And we're totally right about it, you know? Theodore Bovary had it right. We proved it experimentally and theoretically. I know I've talked a lot, but you can go in there and get it and download those things and you can buy my book. And virtually everything, every extraordinary thing I'm telling you about is at least mentioned in here. The AIDS stuff, the aneuploidy stuff, the cancer, what they did to us. We've been shut down. Like I said, Peter, the only reason he went and explored the stuff in Germany with Theodore Boveri's theory was because he couldn't get any more grant money to do what the government wanted. So he's freed up to do what he wanted to do. And it was a blessing. And the same thing was with me, all these horrible things. And I tell you, the COVID thing has been a blessing for the world in a really weird way, because finally we are waking up You know, people are sharing information that, you know, we've been lied to my whole life, even before my life, you know, by the government. And we're finally getting that, at least from free media or independent media or whatever. And then, like, one reason I'm even talking to you right now is because of the COVID crap. I guarantee it. And all the other ones I have been doing since 2000. And it was in late 2000. I got a phone call from a lawyer, Ben Clemens, in Melbourne, Australia, wanting me— how do you know me? He wanted me to help him with the COVID stuff. So then that's when I started— one of the first lawyers— I worked with lawyers on four continents on this COVID crap. I'm still working with three lawyers in the United States on it. And— So that was a blessing for me because I started doing, really, in 2020, I started digging into this COVID stuff in the first literature and everything, SARS-CoV-2. And I got the original documents and everything. It was blatantly in there. There never was a COVID epidemic. Like I said before, there were fewer people died in the U.S. in 2020 than the previous five years. So that's independent U.S. data. And then the... I forget what I was going to talk about. I'm talking too much. I'll shut up and let you ask me a question. And I do want to take a portion of the episode and cover COVID, but I want to return back to cancer here before we get there. If what you're saying is true, then that flips everything on its head, and there should be alternative treatments that don't decimate the body. And I'm a former EMT. My wife's a nurse, actually. I've seen what radiation, I've seen what chemotherapy does. It does to people. It is absolutely a travesty what it does to human beings. So let's talk about this. Is there different theories that we can get into or different treatments that we can get into? Evidence. Sure. OK. The survival, five year survival rate in the United States of people who take chemotherapy is about two to three percent. All right. And it's horrible. And did you know the vast majority, I think like 85, at least 85 percent of oncologists that treat patients with chemo would not take it themselves and not let a family member take it. They know the fact that they give it to other people is a serious, serious ethical issue. All right. And then there's a guy in my book, William Coley. He was an American physician, a New York physician back in the late 1800s. And he was working in New York. And Dr. Ewing there had a patient, a guy who had a cancer on his jaw, and he would come in regularly and have it surgically removed and come back surgically removed. And then one day, this guy, I can't remember his name, but he's in my book. One day, he had an infection, a high-spiking fever, like about 104 degrees. It lasted two days. And during that period, his tumor was vanishing on its own, going away on its own. Yeah. Days to a month, it was gone. No surgery or anything. And the guy never came back. And William Coley searched for this guy. It took him several years. I can't remember if it was five or seven years, something like that. But he found that guy, and he was still healthy. You could just see the scars from where they surgically removed the tumor, but he was healthy. And Coley was a very brilliant guy. He trusted what he saw and spoke to it. Fever was the thing. So then he came up with some bacteria, two different bacteria, and he wound up giving dead bacteria to make sure that they didn't replicate or anything. But he could cause fevers in people with these dead bacteria. And then their tumors would go away. And his daughter, Helen Coley-Nauts, that's his daughter, she went around the world and gathered up data and wrote several books, compiled the data of the results of Coley's toxin. Guess what the average survival rate of people on Coley's toxin that she's got documented? Five-year survival rate, 55%. Over 100 years now. Okay? And Europe, they use colitoxin. They call it mixed bacterial toxins in Mexico and Europe. I don't know about other parts of the world. And in the United States, only in places in conjunction with chemotherapy, which is like putting your foot on the gas and the brakes at the same time. Now, think of it, all right? You've got this trillion-dollar pharmaceutical healthcare, governmental healthcare system. institution that's killing people murder literally murdering people all right and have been for a long time only now it's obvious as blatant is very very very very huge all right and then you've got these simple simple things like now people are starting to learn about other things besides coli's toxin a fever but you know uh uh finally you're getting people at the ivermectin's one there's this bacteria. Let me let me pause you real quick sir i'm sorry let me We've got a hard break. I apologize that I had to interrupt you, but we're going to continue, ladies and gentlemen. This is Caleb Collier with Church and State. Are you tired of your device spying on you? Ladies and gentlemen, we live in 1984. Your phones, your tablets, your smart televisions, they all are spying on you. And this is why I heavily endorse mark37. com. This is everything you need for your digital privacy. 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We've seen people in our spheres, aunts, uncles, grandparents that have gone through chemo and gone through radiation, and we watch their bodies just literally turn on them, and we watch them die a. Very horrible death. It's time for us to re-examine this and go with some and some different treatments. And I had to interrupt you, David, but please continue with what you were saying. You were just talking about ivermectin. Yeah, I agree. These things, you can just go in the store and buy it for a few dollars instead of thousands of dollars. And this is new to me. I understand how those things work. That's where I come in. That's my contribution. There was a thing called the Warburg effect. Otto Warburg, back in, I think it was 1926, I think that's when it was, he discovered that cancers, all cancers, have an absolute dependence on what's called glycolysis, all right? That's fermentation in the cell for its source of energy. All cancers do, all right? And that is the Achilles heel. As soon as I heard that ivermectin inhibited glycolysis, I realized that will kill cancer. And it's not toxic to you. That's the thing. And we're not dependent on glycolysis. We have our mitochondria. And I know it's technical words for people. All right. And there's other things. There's this anaerobic bacterium I found the other day that people are working with. And it's anaerobic, which means it doesn't like oxygen. So it goes into the cancer where there's no the cancers do not like oxygen. And it goes in there and it kills the cancer cells, you know, kills the tumors. I don't mean just and cures the animals. And people are using this. It's like Coley's toxin. The thing about the cancer cures, they are dramatically fast. I don't care which ones you're talking about, like the fever. That guy had the thing like that. And the ivermectin and the cancers. The cancers have an absence. They're wimpy. One of the things that I know as a cancer researcher, that's why I can explain this stuff. Instantly, I get it and I understand it. It makes perfect sense. All cancers are wimpy. It takes 30 to 40 years for a solid tumor, used to anyway, before all these poisons that we have in the atmosphere, for a solid tumor to develop. And during this COVID thing, a phrase was repeated by the community at large, turbo cancer. Maybe you've heard of turbo cancer. I'm a cancer expert. I never heard of that before. The oncologists, the cancer oncologists in Canada and some in the U.S., I've never heard of turbo cancer before. You know, it's a real thing. And being a researcher, I went immediately and looked in the literature, scientific literature. Turbo cancer doesn't appear there. Rapid cancer doesn't appear. And then I found the phrase hyper-progressive disease. Hyper, really, really fast progressive disease. Disease and that's basically turbo cancer, but the technical phrase for it and this is interesting story it the first paper appeared on hyper progressive disease with 2017 and Those in cancer patients that were being treated by a new therapy immune checkpoint inhibitors They're all the rage right now, you know a high-tech cancer thing and they were using these immune checkpoint inhibitors to treat cancer patients and And unfortunately, anywhere from 5% to like 85% of the patients died really, really quickly. I've gotten just under 300 papers on hyperprogressive disease, all right? And the thing was that these people already had cancer. You see, they had cancer. I remember when I first heard about turbo cancer, I realized they probably had a cancer that they didn't know about. We all do. We all have cancer cells in us, but they just go away in a healthy person, all right? But here were people with known cancer. They treated them with cancer therapies, but then they died of cancer in hours, days, weeks, well within a year. And they call it hyperprogressive disease. It's still happening. And I looked up the papers, and you're trying to find out what's causing this. And out of those almost 300 papers, there were two of them that looked like they were really trying to understand it. And they found that there were these high levels of antibodies that were called immune cells, not antibodies, IgG4 cells. They're sort of like the breaking system that helps you get over allergies and tolerate organ transplants and things like that. Those things are rarely detectable in a healthy person. But when they gave them the IgG, what was it, the immune checkpoint inhibitor, The levels went up to almost 500-fold, 500-fold, and your immune system shut down, and it allowed the cancer to grow like it was in a Petri dish. And then I went and compared the turbo cancer studies, the people who had turbo cancers, and a few of them decided to see if they could find out what's going on. The same thing happened. They had several hundred-fold elevation of IgG4. They had the same turning down of the immune system. So the chemotherapy and the injections, the SARS-CoV-2 injections, were doing the same thing to people who already had cancers. The only difference is they call it turbo cancer if you got the SARS-CoV-2 injection. They call it hyperprogressive disease if you're a cancer patient and got the IVF. I forget what to call it. I forget. I'm talking so fast. So anyway, that's an extraordinary thing. I mean, the weird thing about what we're going through is all of these discoveries. You know, finally, they're popping out all over the place. And people like you and your programs and all these other ones I've been doing lately. Yet, no, they're interviewing people. That's one of the blessings. One of the very, very few blessings of the whole COVID thing is it's freed up people to be independent, think for themselves and go somewhere else to find out what's going on. I completely agree with that. I've actually said on this program multiple times that COVID had silver linings, and that's the biggest silver lining that I pointed to. is that it woke people up. People started to ask questions. They started to say, I don't know about this. This isn't really, you know, it's not making sense to me that I have to take this vaccine. And they told me that if I got it, that I wouldn't get COVID. And then they said, no, no, no, you got to get a booster. And now you got to get multiple boosters. And it just, it did not make sense to people. So let's go into COVID-19 because you're saying there was no COVID-19, you know, there was always, you know, Okay. Go ahead, Lisa. I've got to show you the evidence. Remember me? I can tell you these things. Peter and I proved the AIDS stuff. We proved the cancer stuff. And it has to do with evidence and data. I'll give you the real– the very first paper was a Chinese paper that came out within months. And I can't even remember the guy's name right now. But they had– China has about a million pneumonia cases a year, about a million. And they were talking about scores of people with pneumonia. Why do they care about that when they've got millions of pneumonia all year long, all year? And so they had this paper, and they had a single individual, only one person that had this pneumonia. All right? And no control person, no healthy person to compare him with. Only one person, right? They took samples of his tissues, and then they got all of his chromosomes, all of his genes out of there, and they used this fancy, fancy technology where they separate all these things, cut the little DNA in segments, and then amplify the DNA, and then... I mean, it's... I forget what they call it. It's... It's science fiction. It's horror movie science fiction. And what they wound up with was thousands and thousands of sequences, you know, from this one man, not one, they had no human normal to compare it with, And then they came up with these sequences that looked like SARS. Remember, we had SARS-1 before already. So they already had sequences that they already talk about. All right. So they came up with that. And then they shared within days, within days, they shared this sequence with various countries in the world. And they would come up with these sequences. And then they would all start making these injections based on those sequences. and they had they had, first of all, they never had a virus. They never looked for a virus. They were looking, they went through all of the DNA in your body, you know, in your blood or whatever. All the DNA there that's in there. And, you know, and then they cut all these things up and they stitched them together and had a computer put it all together and they came up with a sequence. And that was it. And guess what? Those sequences, no two are identical. You can go, these are RNA sequences. So-called RNA viruses, you know, they're very, very unstable. They're changing all the time. No two have the same sequence. So what they have to do is find the most common regions in a virus that gives it that name, a particular virus. They could have these regions that are similar. They're not identical, but they're similar, all right? And then that's where they get their tests, their DNA tests, these PCR things. They look for the regions that are common for all of this class of viruses. All the classes, no unique one. And then they use that test on humans. And we don't know, those sequences can match up with us too. And it's totally, totally, it's criminal. With that paper, back in 10 years ago, a paper like that, I don't think could have gotten published. It could not have gotten published in the years that I was active chemist, all right, because it didn't satisfy any of the criteria. You'd have to have a collection of people, and you'd have to have a comparison group, and then you'd have to, oh, I can't even go into all the horror things that they did. And they got away with it, just like when you say there's Ebola. Somebody says, what do you do about Ebola in Africa? Only reason you ask that question is because some news person or some government person said there's an Ebola thing. That's it. No evidence at all. And that's what we did with SARS-CoV-2. It was an assertion, a claim. And even the scientists bought into it because I guess they were too afraid to speak out. It's the emperor has no clothes analogy right there. Nobody's willing to go out and say, hey, he's naked because the whole community will turn against them. And that's what we saw. And obviously it was weaponized. And, you know, for myself, I'm sure for you as well. We want justice, you know, with Anthony Fauci, with all these people who went along with it and flat out murdered citizens of the world. It's not just America here. But through their treatments, through their experimental, it's not even fair to say a vaccine, really. They killed a lot of people. It's a military weapon. They've already killed— I don't know how many tens of millions of people have been killed. I don't mean— various ways. Starvation. They lost their jobs. They're injecting kids. They're still doing that. All these murder weapons. And the people in hospitals, they put them on the ventilators, and they don't need to. They don't let their loved ones go in there. I mean, there's murder stories everywhere you look. You could do a different one of these murder stories on every one of your interviews. And thank God you won't because it drives you nuts. It probably would. Well, we are quickly winding down to the very last part of the episode here. I want to make sure to promote the website here. So, Chris, if you can bring that back up, davidrasnick.com. Chris is bringing it up so you'll be able to see it. A lot of information on here. We've got AIDS, cancer, vaccines, drugs and tests, science. And the citizen. We've got COVID on here. There's so much information, and a lot of this, it's all free, so you can go and download the books. All of it's free. All of it's free, so you can go in and download the books. But please, sir, tell people a little bit more about your website. Yeah, DavidRastnick.com. I've got over 40 years' worth of information on there. I have no idea of all the stuff. Sometimes I have to clean it up, but I constantly keep it updated as much as I can. You can download whole books. If I have them, you can download them. They're available online. And this one, this COVID love story, that's a great one. That was Children's Health Defense, I think, or maybe that was High Wire. I forget what. That was a very touching one. So I like that. And then you can click on that outsider. You get the table of contents and the preface with that. And the review right below it, the book review, that woman wrote that review. That was for Catherine Austin Pitts in the Solari Report. And they did a really nice job there. And my website's full of stuff like that. Well, I think it's a great resource for anyone who's interested in what's actually going on, what's going on with our health, what's going on with medicine and science. I'm going to recommend this for everyone. Go download one. Of the books. Start reading. I always encourage the audience to do your own homework, to not believe what I say, to not believe what my guest says, to go in there and do the research so that you too can be an expert. and your own advocate for your health. Sir, it has been an absolute pleasure having you on the program. I've got to go ahead and close this out. If you hold on one more minute post-production to say our goodbyes, I'd appreciate it. But thank you so much for your work and your willingness to come on the show. I'm very happy to do it. All right. Well, thank you again. There you go, ladies and gentlemen, David Raznick. A fascinating interview here. So much that we really only scratched the surface on. So once again, I'm going to remind you to get the books, to do the research, do the homework. That's what we used to do. We used to be independent researchers. We used to not just accept what doctors told us and get on some slew of pharmaceutical cocktails that we felt worse about ourselves with the side effects. But don't worry, there's another pill to counteract that side effect. It's clearly a boondoggle that I want no part of. I want to take charge of my own health. And I think this is a great resource, davidrasnick.com. 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