FOIL FRIDAY: Viruses, Vaccines, and Verisimilitudes Dave Jones & Jfurg (11/2019!)

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We have to hit the reset button to create a true cultural preparedness, starting at a very young age and filtering all the way up. Hey y'all, it is Jafer here. So we are trying to hopefully this turns out better than than the last show. We are giving you the content that we missed out on last weekend about the flu, bacterial and pandemics of the sorts, because, as we all know, having a low immune system, we're setting yourself up for this can sometimes be the deadliest thing that can happen. And thank goodness we've got Day here because this is the man of the hour right now. Jones. Yes, yeah, Well so if you tuned in last Saturday night, we were all ready to go and had our notes and everything, but the technical difficulties seemed to just keep mounting. Well, I think we restarted like four times to no avail. Yeah, it was an echo, a reverb, and then some of them it was like. Absolute garble. Yeah. So I don't know what I mean. I'm you know, I'm up on a mountain, so I'm limited. I'm limited internet. And and Fergie there, she's she's got a laptop from the eighties, I think. So, So we decided to do this to record it because you'll get a better quality show, You'll get a better definitely better audio. Uh so this is what we're doing. We're recording the show. Uh, I don't know, are you gonna are you gonna answer chat room questions? I probably will end up jumping in chat that night. Yes, so I can do it. That deep pop up. Yeah, So then we can still give that amount of answers and more content to what's actually being even said. Okay, sounds like a plan. So you get two hosts for the price. Of one about it's a it's a it's a special. You know, one is none and two is one. That's right, That is the. So, really, what what we're coming upon as a lot of people are aware of its flu season? Everybody is talking about get your flu vaccine. Have you had your flu shot? You need to get your quarter flu here, or your try flu or your high dose you know, and and there are so many precautions that can be taken. I guess what kills me is we have created such a society that is so such a sterile Yeah, you see the air quotes a sterile society that we have set ourselves up for a cold to be the next pandemic. Right, so a viral is one hundred times even worse. Yes, I mean we okay, so if we're talking about the flu, so what we do is we look at Australia for our flu season, and we figure whatever happens in Australia will happen to us. So the flu vaccines they take about six months to prepare and distribute and all that kind of stuff. So when whatever flu strain is happening in Australia, that's the strain that we protect against. And it may or may not be true. It's like a fifty to fifty shot. So yeah, that's why you hear so many times that the flu vaccine is not going to be effective or onlyfrective for this much. Right, what was it last year? The flu vaccine was maybe a twenty three to twenty eight percent effectiveness. Yeah, and the year before was even worse, right, And so. What people don't realize. I'm just going to give a little education here. And it was also in the audio both Dave you sent me as are you sent me as well? And I'm going to just put this out on the forefront. I'm not a flu vaccinator. I do not get my flu shot. That is personal preference. I'm not telling people that they shouldn't. I'm not telling people that they should just for me personally, I don't think it's the best option because of the fact there are twenty eight different variants of the flu twenty eight. Yeah, and most of the flu shots, like the quadriflu, only has four variants, and they're usually two variants of A and two variants of B. That's not including H one in you know, all of these H five and three. There's so many different ones. Yeah, and it's not cost effective for pharmaceutical companies to do this flu thing. So consequently, we have one, maybe two laboratories that's producing the flu vaccine for us. But you know that. But working in a pharmacy on my end, we were able to get the flu vaccine vaccines quite early. But even when I worked in retail like open retail like Walgreens, flu vaccines became a shortage. And that's because, like you said, there are not very many manufacturers, and the flu virus changes so quickly that even if that vaccine comes out in the right time frame, that viral, that flu virus could have changed within two little properties that that vaccine is not going to be seen as effective anymore. And that's what happened the last couple of years. Yeah, and you know, it's just it's a crap shoot. Every year since you opened the door. So I'm gonna I'm gonna tell the audience that we we the Jones household is against all vaccines. Okay, So my daughter had a reaction. You know, some of the fans that go way back to you know, the old Prepper broadcasting may know this. But my daughter had a reaction and we stopped. And my son has no vaccines. So my daughter had some vaccines and she stopped talking, I mean just stopped, reverted, you know, back to and you know we we right or wrong, and I don't know, maybe in the future they'll figure this out, you know, some Nettie abnormality or whatever whatever. She got the shots and she stopped talking. So five years later now she's she's five or six, and autism doesn't occur in kids before five, you know, after five years old, I mean, it's practically non existent. And we had the influx of people coming across the border, you know, And every time we take her to the doctor, the doctor says, you're gonna get a shot this time, and we say no. He says, okay, we have a really great doctor. By the way, we were thrown out of two pediatricians. Two boy, this one lady. She says, you better get your facts straight. She's telling me and pointing a finger at me, and I'm like, I need to get my facts straight. I was starting to get the freaking hunnel vision, you know, you're getting ready to punch someone. Oh my god. We walked out of there. We walked out and never went back. It was it was just unbelievable. We had another pharmist pediatrician tell us we can't we can't treat your kids. You're putting the other kids at risk. And I'm like, if all the other kids have been vaccinated, how are we putting them the risk? Well, and I'm going to chime in right there is a lot of people don't realize a vaccination is not a guarantee that you won't catch the disease or the illness. That's why they have fits when it comes to the measle pandemic. We have yep, right now. It's because it's not the fact that your child is completely It just gives them some sort of antibody. So if they were to get the measles, it will be as less of a case than if they didn't have the vaccination. So that is something I do want to point out right there, I'm not saying I'm a medical professional, but within studies, it is not a guarantee of a prevention, but less what it does is it minimizes the effect. Yeah, the chances of you getting right. So, and that's why they're more concerned with younger and older folks because as that goes on, their body has lost that immunity, and that's why they want these older individuals to revaccinate. Right, And that's the thing it's it's also it's not a bulletproof vest. We will not you know, it may or may not work. You know, it's a high percentage of chance that will work. And not only that, they don't know exactly how the immune system works in the body. Right. Well, you know that's that's a bit of a conflict in our house as well as my mother is against newborn infants getting certain shots within a certain time frame because their immune system has not even been triggered yet. Right in our house, we do vaccinate. You know, it's also a state law here. But yeah, I am not parent who if it is not required, the kids don't necessarily get it. And it's not because I'm trying to be anti anything. I had a child who ended up in a hospital from feveral seizures because they gave her six vaccinations at once. So I'm not parents. That's another thing. Yes, And the the what's the other one, it's not just the MMR. It's the something cough and something else. Yeah, protests, polio protests, and there's one other one in there. You go, I have I'm. Allergic to Protestant protest I mean, so it's one of those. After she had that reaction, I'm not parent that I make the doctors split up their vaccinations. If they're getting six, then they're only getting three. If they're getting four, they're only getting two, and they'll come back in two or three months. I am one of those who I believe it's too much on a tiny system, that you're sending their system into shock exactly. And that's what happened to my daughter the first time. So this then, okay, to finish my story that that's okay. The the uh influx of migrants that came came across the border. This was way back and and Deanna's twelve now, and she was like six then, so it was like six years ago. So I go to the doc and I said, I think we're going to do a vaccine, and I said, let's do the MMR And he said, good choice because it, you know, it does measles. Yeah, and it was the the measles that was the outbreak at that time. Gave her the shot, and like a week later she starts doing this number where she spaces out and just stares, just stares her. Teachers all noticed it. Okay, I'm driving the car and I'm talking to her and she looks at me like she doesn't understand a word I'm saying. I almost pulled the car over and shook her to snap her out of it. So there is something in her system. I don't know what it is. She can't take shots. She can't take these shots. Now. Consequently, she's had every you know, every bug that come down the pike, and she got sick and got over it, and now she's practically immune. Does she have an egg allergy? No, my son did so, David. Okay, So the reason I asked this for the listeners is because a lot of these vaccines, especially the flu shot, is made in an egg base. So if you have an egg allergy, they tend to tell you not to get the injection, because if you have an egg allergy nine times, well I should say nine times, you have a fifty to fifty chance of having a reaction from the vaccination itself. Right, they grow the vaccine in egg protein. It's cheap, it's easy, and they can do a bunch of it quickly, and that's why they do that. And people that have a gallergy, you got to find other ways, but. Like a live strand, yeah. Squirt it up your nose or something. See, And I've worked in a hospital where I've seen people's I'm maybe out of a whole flu sea since all two or three people with a negative reaction to the vaccination itself. Yeah, yeah, so that's not it. So I don't know what it is. It's inner DNA or something. Well, you know, some people are more sensitive to medications than others. Yes, some people, no matter what they take, they're always going to get the extreme side effects. And it's not because there's something wrong with them, it's that they're they are chemically more sensitive to these medications. Yeah, but God bless you, because see, I understand it can be scary. You know, with my daughter her having feverraal seizures now anytime she spikes a fever, we have to watch out. We were told she will grow out of it. Yeah, usually after the age of five will see a decline, but it's still one of those. She doesn't go from a normal fever to a slow incline. She goes from ninety nine to all of a sudden one hundred and four. So you know, it's just you know, as a parent. But with the flu, what I wanted to mention to people is a lot of people don't realize it's not necessarily the flu itself that tends to kill people. It's actually the secondary infections that come from it. So you've got a few people who end up with cytokine storms cideo king storms doesn't happen very often. If you are curious to look it up, it's see why t o ki n e storms. And what this does is it causes your body, especially your lungs, to build up a large amount of fluid, which then can turn into ronchitis, pneumonia. And usually it's these secondary infections that take down a lot of individuals. Yeah, and if you google the nineteen eighteen flu, right, the Spanish flu, the Spanish flu, and it was h one N one, and people don't know that either. That thing that happened in two thousand and nine and World Health Organization went nuts and they declared a worldwide pandemic and everybody freaked. Well, I think, but wasn't there a small little difference, one little mutation in that pandemic versus the Spanish flu. That was the only difference why it didn't cause the same amount of death as it did that very first time in nineteen eighteen. It was missing like one or two protein molecules to be the exact same strain. So whereas it was very contagious, it wasn't as lethal. But if you've seen the deaths that did occur from that, it was all young, fit, healthy exactly. Yeah, yeah, well, you know that was the same thing with it in nineteen eighteen, the largest recorded number of deaths was not in the elderly or the week, It was in your healthy fit and it was actually between the ages of what was sixteen to twenty something, when you're hot, not to your forties, was the largest number of death. And it was not the week or the super young, it was the healthy. And so that's where that flew took, which the biggest toll during that time period because it was perfectly healthy people you could talk to today and then two days later they would be dead from it. Yeah, there's reports where a perfectly healthy man would report for his shift at work in a factory and before the time his shift was over, he was dead. Yes, yes, it took a toll on. They reported having to take the bodies out of New York City and railroad cars if you read the accounts of this, and it was over a period of eighteen months. That's another thing. People don't understand that the flu has a cycle and it will rebound. So it's a period of eighteen months. It killed more people than died during the Civil War, and we lost people on both sides of the Civil War. To give you an analogy of how many casualties died in the Civil War, it took us all the way up to Desert Storm to match the amount of casualties. Oh wow, Yes, World War One, first of all, the Spanish American War, World War one, World War II, Vietnam, Korea, and all the way up Todayizzard Storm to match the same amount of casualties that we had during the Civil War. The Civil War was six hundred and forty thousand people, and during the nineteen eighteen flu it was six hundred and eighty thousand. And that's just the reported death. There's no telling the number of people that died that was never reported right that they especially in the very rural areas where medical attention wasn't seeks right away. And it was literally one pregnant woman who could be tendant to the whole town and for whatever reason, she survived and the other pregnant woman didn't. You know, it really is a gamble. Police limited funerals to fifteen minutes. Well, and there's where a big issue was though, is some of the cities could have minimized the amount of death. They actually stop certain things. They know, they stop social gatherings, which is fine, but if you don't take a pause out of school like other cities did, or you don't minimize the amount of exposure. So here's going to go to my little soapbox rant real quick. Is when I worked in the hospital because I don't get a flu shot, I had to wear a face mask, which is perfectly fine, Okay, absolutely great. I'm not sick that people around me are, so a face mac is going to be more effective for someone who's not sick versus someone who is well. I mean rephrase. It worked for me for the moment, Okay, But here's the thing. Most of those surgical masks are not meant to be worn beyond thirty minutes because of the moisture particulates that build up on it then loses its process to be able to filter anything in and out. So when you run into something is if someone is sick, sorry, you need to put the mask on them. So we would put a mask on them, but I kept a mask on as well as a double because if you do not wear your mask properly, then you are just as bad as fitting in somebody's face. I'm sorry. I'm gonna tell folks now, if you go in somewhere and you're sick and you have a face mask on, or they give you a face mask to put on, I know it sucks. I know you have a hard time breathing, but cover your stinking nose, push it down to where it fits, and cover your chin because if your nose is hanging out or your chin is hanging out, it means you're breathing completely out of the mask and it's losing any of its actual effectiveness. Yeah, well, I mean. That was my little soapback story. I used to drive me nuts. Patients would come in. I tell you have to wear it over your nose, Well I can't breathe. Well, I'm sorry, but this is for the protection of everybody else. Yeah, and if we're we're going to talk about these now, so N ninety five masks, Yes, you can. They're cheap right now. They are cheap. When H one and one hit, we couldn't get these things. I was working that now at headquarters, and we wanted to have some of these on hand, and they if you could find them, they were outrageously priced. Well, and you can get them in different sizes. So just because you don't see one to fit you, I have some in ninety five masks size small for me. I'm even I have ordered some extra small specifically for my children. So I can't stand when people say I can't you can. It just means you may have to put in a little more work, but it's worth it. I mean the box of N ninety five masks or even I even have some individually wrapped that I keep in each of the kids First aid kids in their bags because God forbid, if something happens they need to pop one on. They have one, right, or if they're not sure, if you're exactly, if you're just not sure. You know, people ask me this all the time. When do you do it when you think you should? I mean why Wait? I actually had a lady me in one of my presentations, would you keep your kids at home from school? And I'm like, hell, yes, hell. Yes, absolutely. They bring enough shit home. Absolutely, it makes me sick all the time they're bringing stuff home. And I said, what are you saving up that thirty days supply of food for? And she says, she says, well what if it's nothing. If it's nothing, they get a tardy slip or you know, you miss too many absences. Right, if it's for real, you saved their life exactly. Well. And you know, I'm thirty years old, first time I ever and thirty years of my life never had a flu vaccine. I'm gonna knock on one because I don't want to Chinese myself again. Yeah. I got the flu this year in February, right at my thirtieth birthday. And guess where I got it from? Ah the DMV. Oh my gosh, my child had to go to the bathroom. I was dealing with my kids in there. I didn't take the normal precautions I normally do when I go into public spaces because public splaces are close cross to me. Yeah, but I got the flu from there, and literally I thought I had a kidney infection. I ended up in the hospital. They sent me home. They sent me home. I went to the er because I thought I had a kidney infection. It came back negative. I ended up having to go home the next day at work and I went to straight to the doctor and he tests me. He says, you have the flu. Yeah, he goes, believe it or not, body aches are signs, and he says, lower back pain is one of the key signs. I had no clue. Yeah, I thought I was dying. Well, And okay, we're way off script. Yeah, I'm sorry. No, No, I have notes. I have notes, but you're you're making a lot of good points. So I'm just I'm going with it. Okay. So people ask all the time, how will you know? And I said, your trigger should be death. Okay, when when people and let me put it to you this way. I sent you that article about dark Winter Okay. I was in Off Grid magazine about a year ago. It was Operation Dark Winter. It was a federally federal level exercise about a bioterror attack. Okay. This was right after nine to eleven too, so we knew our butts was hanging out, but we didn't know how bad it was. Well, there was a bunch of stuff that was discovered from this exercise. One of them is we don't have an early warning system for a medical emergency like we have for hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, you know, things like that. We you know, babe, babe, babe, Okay, we don't have that. So it was one of the things that was identified and they said they were going to work on it. They never did. It never happened. So here's what we have, and this is the best we have right now. It's what's called hospital divert. When hospitals get so full that they can't take any of the other patients, they call the county. The county calls the state, the state. And I used to work in the Pennsylvania EOC Emergency Operations Center. We would we would flip a little switch and it would it would say this hospital is on divert and then we would let every other fire department, ambulance service in that county know that that hospital can't take any more patients. Okay, So what will happen is at the state level, these hospitals will come up on DIVERT d you know, just like that. But if no one puts the dots together, okay, no one will know. And by the time the hospital goes on DIVERT, it's already too late. Mm hm. So that is the best early warning system we have and it's already too late. Right, Well, you know that that points out a good thing. I'm gonna go off your your your plan. From when I worked at the hospital. It was during the most recent Ebola incidents. Much anyone who paid attention should know that Ebola did have a media blackout after so many cases they blacked it out, blacked out completely amazing, Yes, and we actually ended up having quite a few more what was it, at least it blacked out at what ten patients and we ended up having fifteen. Yeah, and they yella, Trump, we're calling the fake news fake news and Obama actually controlled the media and no one talks about that, right. And see, here's the thing though, is I kept up an eye on it. The WHO and the World Health Organization and the CDC had it all listed, but you really had to dig on that website to find it. And I found it and I kept up to date. But what it was was at the hospital we had a safety protocol. So this is stuff that people don't talk about with the medical emergency systems is we had the protocol. And it was also during flu season, so I had to wear my face mask. Will people come in, Do you have the ebola? No, I don't have the ebola used to driving nuts, but we'd have a small little room. And what people don't realize is before the safety procedures were ever lifted, Yeah, people quit following those safety perside seizures. So even if a hospital is set up, there's a good chance within two months, especially within a month of it going on media blackout. Yes, the nurses and the other staff members. I was still anal about it. The other staff members quit following those required medical procedures for a viral pandemic, so you run into issues. It's not stating that these hospitals are not set up for it. Because we had the protocol, we had the equipment, we had the room. But the problem was is some of these employees get so lax that it's not that the procedures aren't there, it's going to be the individual's tending to it. So, I mean, I hate to say it because I love the medical I have plenty of friends who are and are great. When you see people getting lax and procedures there are there for your safety, that's when you run into errors. So for me, it would not be immediately go to a medical facility. It would be what can I handle myself? Yeah, and now you said two things and I gotta I gotta say this, no, Okay, So first of all, James is going to put up the second video on Patreon and I do an hour and twenty minutes on biological warfare. Okay. Oh yes, this is when Zekea not Zekea Ebola came to the United States for the first time. It was a Friday before Christmas and I packed this fire haul. There were fifty five people there, all asking me questions and it's it's a very good presentation on biological warfare and what you can do to protect. Are you talking about the most recent one or the one that happened back in the eighties. No, the most recent one, and this one was different because ebola had changed. Yes, it had mutated. Yes, And this is what got them because before, if you had a village that got a Bola, you just isolated him. Whoever died, died, whoever didn't. Okay, but it didn't have the same mortality right the first time around. Right now, this latest strain, the incubation time was much greater, and it went back thirty days. Now, think about how many people you would have to list as coming in contact with for the past thirty days. I mean, I know McDonald's. You stopp at McDonald's, right, you stop at the gas station. You gave change to a cashier exist her hands. She just touched six other people's hands. It's unbelievable. So that is what was freaky about this. And then the other thing. People ask me all the time, well, that doctor got ebola and that nurse got ebul They. Have because they didn't take the procedures. Right exactly exactly. And I always tell people when I was in live nerve agent, Okay, you you have to you have to dress up, and there's a fixed undressing procedure and you have to follow that procedure, step by step by step, and if you leave one of those steps out, you know, now, think about that, and you have to pee, Okay, I mean you have to do this thing every time. Every time you gotta pee, you gotta undress. Well, looks like with a surgeon. A surgeon is not going to just walk in all willy and nilly and then start working on you. They have a procedure, they have a process, and they have to keep it sterile. If you skip that process, you may have just put your surgical patient in harm's way for a affection or something. Yep, same thing but in reverse. Hey, you know what I think we need to do is start giving these people some hope. I think we but there is hope. There really is hope. I think what it is is I don't think people take the situation at hand as serious as they possibly should be, maybe not too serious, but be more aware of the situation or the potential for that situation. So, yes, there is hope. The flu is not hard to get over. It does hurt. It took me a month afterwards to actually be able to feel normal because my breathing hurt. Yeah, they said I was on the process of getting bronchitis. So for us, there are procedures you can take. Little did I know I had exposed a lot of people to it unbeknownst to me. Today you have your you know, patient zero. I do want to point out real quick though, is a lot of people don't realize that a lot of these viruses can jump vectors and what I mean by vectors as host, so it can go from animal to human and human to animal. So the swine flu, the bird flu, most flus actually originally started out what was it from a bird, from some sort of a bird of some sorts. But yes, there is there is hope. There are some great things you can do to a boost your immune system. There are some great procedures you can take to minimize the exposure of making the rest of your family sick or even yourself sick if you're that caregiver. Yeah, I mean, in the nineteen eighteen flu, not everybody died. Woodrow Wilson, the president at the time, got the flu. He did not die. So whatever the disease is that happens, don't write someone off in your family just because they get. It right well, you know, And that's like I was the strongest I'm in my household, I'm probably the one with the strongest immune system. But I happen to play my card just right where, whether it be stressed, whether it be had some other health issues going on, my immune system was compromised enough that I got sick. My husband is an individual if you so much as sneeze within a two hundred feet vicinity of him, he's going to be sick. Yeah. Like, we have a joke in our house, and it's I wouldn't say a joke, it's not to mean ugly, but my husband has always said if there is some sort of pandemic, he will be the first one to go because he has a compromised immune system. Well, let's talk about that for a second, because there's lots of things that you can do to boost your immune system absolute and then if someone actually gets it, what do you do. So this we'll talk about boosting immune system in just a second. Let's talk about if someone gets it. How many people have a master bedroom, Oh exactly, Yeah, that master bedroom becomes the quarantine facility. Which that's what happened here for me, is I was I have a bedroom with a bathroom with a sink, and a tullet and a shower, So if I have to get something to drink, I have access to filtered water exactly. So you make that the quarantine facility. Only one other person comes in contact, you know, is the caregiver. One other person. That person takes all the precautions and we're going to talk about that in just a second. Everybody else stays in the other end of the house. You know. Just know that that bug does not have a search and destroy, you know mechanism. It's not going to fly down the hallway and get you. No, absolutely not. But that was another precaution as my husband ended up camping out in the living room as far away from the bedroom to be on the same sumthing. Yeah yeah, so okay, So what the caregiver needs to do is limit their exposure to the infected person and protect themselves. Latex gloves. You can get them by the gross at Costco for like twenty bucks. I just use them to process a deer, okay, so they're good for other things. They're also great for dress up night around the house. Sorry, well, I mean, you know. Right, whatever tickles. Yours, whatever ticks large trash bags and duct tape. There was a lady in Africa that took care of her whole family. They all had gotten ebola and she did not. And she took care of her family with large trash bags and duct tape and never got ebola. Shop glasses Now think about this, the N ninety five mask, A pair of shop glasses or goggles. Huh okay, and then a plastic shopping bag over your head. How you look stupid? Yes, but it will protect you and it's a one time use anyways, So when you come out of that room, you want to strip all that stuff off. Fixed undressing procedure okay. Decontaminate with is a shower cap instead? Absolutely? And a shower cap is usually that nice thick rubber that you can actually decontaminate and use over chlorine chlorox. How many people have clorox in their house? Yeah? Every house, every household. You have the number one standard decontaminate that the army uses for nerve agent and it kills ebola. How about that? So you want to you want to have some of this on hand. I'm not talking like a bunch of it, but you want to have a quantity that you'll be able to use if something like. This well and or plastic, you know, for us when I got sick, and I've posted it on my Instagram, my husband literally duct taped the outer door shut with plastic and duct tape, and he only opened the tiny little corner. We have a filing cabinet next to the door. He'd put a bowl of food there, close the door, sterilize everything again, and take off day. So hey, I was on lockdown. And then my son, who had gotten sick trying to take care of me, was put in the same room with me. So then he and I ended up getting better, and you know, we had which this This is something I don't know if you want to mention now and later. Vitamin D yes has anti viral properties. I take so many units a day anyways, but during that time I did double up a little bit, which seemed to help with any anti with any viral. So if you have warts, it's usually if it pops up, it's usually because your vitamin d's low. Yeah, and vitamin C. What vitamin C does is it strengthened is your cell wall. So the virus, if you ever see a picture of a virus, it's like this little drill. Okay, so these things will drill into a cell and infect the nuclei. I used to draw a picture of how big, you know, like a cell would be as compared to a virus, and a virus is super super super small, and it can drill in and actually infect the nucleus of a cell. So the vitamin C and then people ask me all the time how much of vitamin C? Take vitamin C up until you get diarrhea and then back off a little. Well, and vitamin C will disperse out of your system so quickly. Yeah, it's not something that you really have to worry about overdose and on No. Vitamin D will disperse too, but it will stay in your system longer. So you have to be a little more careful with vitamin D than you do s. Yeah, and see, you know what if you overdose on sea you get a little diarrhea, what you do, I mean a little diarrhea over death I could deal with. Happened to go to the bathroom. Yes, since we're on the precautions, you know, you've got to know how to make coloidal silver. Okay, Yes, coloidal silver is great. It's a natural antie, not an antibiotic, but it's it. It has antibiotic properties because of silver. If you isn't it considered an antimicrobial as well. Yes, antimicrobial, that's what I wanted to say, antimicrobial. It has limitations. It's not a panacea, but it is a tool in your toolkit that if you want to prevent, you know, clean it can sterilize water. It does a lot of stuff. You know, back in the old days when our money was actually made out of silver, they would take a quarter or a half dollar and throw it in a quarter milk and it would keep it from going sour longer. This was back before they had refrigeration. You know, right, And that's because it kept the bacterial growth down. Yep. So it works. It works. You got to know how to make it. And it's just one of those things. We actually make it here at the house and we drink it and you know, as a preventing measure and we use it on cuts and burns and things like that. We use it for the for the quail, the dog. Yeah, we're up to twenty one eggs a day. That is awesome. Yeah. Yeah, And we just started. We have a little small incubator. We got eight babies up there right now. In a little been. Not all of our eggs were fertile, so we had to throw some out. But we're doing good. We're doing good. Quail or easy quil, quil. Easy, I was gonna say real quick when you were talking about preventatives or secondary measures, is in our house, I'm sure as well as yours. Y'all do fireside or fireside or something we do. Mine ends up smelling like feet doesn't taste the best, but it's drinkable. Uh if that ousider vinegart that smells just something else. But we do elderberry yet elderberry, and I make them into gummies for the kids, so the kids take a gummy every day. And elderberry is not necessarily something that will just get rid of it, but it will boost your immune system so you can fight it. Yep, we do alderberry c we have we have elderberry tinsture and elderberry syrup, and as well. As keep rehydration fluids on hand because because the biggest issue you're going to run into with any of these illnesses is a lack of You're gonna be so tired, there's gonna be so much you're gonna be lethargic. You're not gonna want to move, You're gonna be weak. So having gatorade because of the sugars, pediolite if you can, you can even create and make your own rehydration flutes. But if you're the caregiver and you're sick, being able to have something accessible does make it a lot easier because I'll keep gatorade in a powder tub, and if it looks like someone's getting sick, I make a full gallon at least or a couple gallns because I keep extra gallon jukes of water in the house, and I'll mix it into those, and then we have instant flutes. And now when people don't like going to gatorade or powerade, but I've even had doctors tell me the biggest reason you want to go for those is because of the sugar. Because the sugar is going to give that person enough strength to be able to try to just or get something down so they can then get over the illness. So whether it be flue, whether it be a cold, whether it be any little stomach bug, it is a good precaution to have, even if you're not a big sugar intaker. When your system is down, you need all the energy you can to be able to get better. Right, there is a there's a thing for that that I highly recommend. It's called media Pedium. Medi Pedia. There you go. There, I wrote it down right, and it's two tablets and a little little case. You could throw them in your you know, your go bag, your purse, whatever, and it's really really good taste fire cider. Are you going to give them the recipe your recip Hey, we're gonna email you, okay, our recipe for firesider. Oh? Absolutely, because it's got to be better to what I'm doing. I'm doing a shit Probably No, this is Dave Change take Dan Chang. Yeah. So I ended up having one of my little tots and who miraculously out of out of me and my other two children when we got six, she didn't get sick, neither Dick my husband, and these are the two who usually have to watch or with codes. But something that people don't realize I'm going to jump digress for a second is with the flu, people do not realize that it can last for four to six weeks at the max. So people don't realize is my middle child when she got sick, she was sick for a full four weeks before she finally got over it. It took me probably a month after I got sick to be able to be one hundred percent. So it takes time, and it does take a toll on your immune system and your body. I just want to throw that out there because people don't realize that the timeframe or the window is much longer than what it actually is. Yep. Hey, and there's a there's a bunch of mushrooms that Maria has told me about. Lions made. What's this one. Usually if you go on Amazon, you will find the Seven Great Mushrooms and it's daily im on support and there will be you know, Rashi may, Tacky lion maine and cordy chips and some others. These are all to boost your immune system exactly. But for the flu, bone brought, bone brought, and then cupping, cupping. She's doing cupping therapy. Oh okay, yeah, okay, will not let you to get the second. Infection. If you have a flu, you can get you know, wa pneumonia. If you do copying, you will not get that. And it's easy and you have the choice to do fire or buy vacuum. Yeah, they have a can. I just have you send your wife this way. There's a nineteen dollars cupping set that that's a vacuum. It's just a vacuum, so anybody can do it. Anybody can do this, and it's like a deep tissue massage. But it will suck the oxians and if you have any kind of fluids and your lungs will suck it out. What I do. I do a tincture with alcohol and Bordeaux cruit some other other plants which will be like you know, when you finish the cupping, you put that on and will be done and it's relaxing. Or my kids like it and we get rid of cuffs and fluid and colds very quickly. Yeah, it works great. It lessens your recovery time. And the bomb brought the bomb brought it. It's like immunity boost. Two. We have bone broth is amazing. We just put the bones in there. We put the bay leaves and the pappercorns and the kindaway seeds and some sage, some moregany. I put some oregano, some fresh oregno from the. Garden exactly, and you put it all low for like twenty four hours. Depends on which bones you have and then you eat it. We have some yesterday today. Yeah. Hey, and we're getting a pig. We're getting we're getting a pig. First week in December. We found a farmer that will give us a pig for a dollar a pound. Oh wow, I know. Well, I have a friend who has plenty of picklets'll gladly bring you something. And they're amazing. They're tuning Tuny American guinea hog. And they they don't get large, large, but they produce enough of meat that a four month old picklet fed eight people plus leftovers the five of us the next day. Well, we know about that. It's growing with non gmo grains and stuff. But we met the farmer and he's raising these pigs and we we actually said to him, what do you do with these pigs? He says, well, they're for sale. That I said, how can we get one? And that's how we got started. But not great, yea, there is nothing like pigs growing with acorns. Yeah, you're right right. See and see her pigs. My girlfriend raises her. They're and a heritage breathe there. They don't get any sort of GMO, you know, they're all natural. They grays out in the property. But what's funny is they kind of remind you of puppies. They love to be scratched and pettish, but you can fit more in there. And it was just amazing how well I enjoyed processing these pigs over more than I did the other variety that got picked twice as quick, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like a slow growing pig has more Flavorjune than those the breeder pigs they use now. But I think we we we went a little sideways. There, No, no, no, I just wanted to tell you what to do at the Yeah, let's go back to the. About manuka honey. Manuka honey. Now what is manuka honey? It's a very how do you explain it? It's very rich, honey. It's like an antibiotic. Oh okay, okay, So what I do I this year I managed to grow two big black radish Spanish radish. And if you put them with honey, they will leave all that juice and then that will be like. A well, what do you do with your elderberries? Throw some? I make something juice? Would you ready? You drink it? Okay? Okay? And when the kids get sick, I just get something out of the freezer and make syrul. Yeah, so this is a bunch of information for the listeners. It's like all over the place. But I boiled the berries and then I add manuka hani and that's, you know, like a booster because manukahani it's like an antibio antibiotic by itself. I want to bring us back around. So, no matter what the situation is, whether it's flu zeka, a virus that we haven't even identified yet. You know, they're talking about virus X, you know, which could be a mutation of the bird flu or something like that, your best thing is isolation. You want to isolate your family, cut everybody off, no contact, and then stay there. Yeah. Right, And if one person that you're in your household is sick and you're seeing other people are sick outside of your family, then the best thing to do is go ahead and just stay in and bunk thing on. I mean, it's not because you're trying to it's you're trying to keep the rest of your family who are not sick well. So I mean, there's nothing wrong with taken to precautions. We as adults, we keep our children home when they're sick. Right, they don't get to go back to school until they haven't had an hour had a fever for twenty four hours. As parents, we tend to that's a downfall for us because we believe, oh, we'll weep that and make money. Yes we do. But your life and your health is more important than a paycheck. And I know the paycheck is important, don't get me wrong, but you going to work and exposing all of your coworkers to sit illness is not helping you or your family in the long run, because if you're the only person showing up to work because the whole entire staffs sick, Yeah, it could have been prevented. Well, let's talk about this for a second, because pandemic. You know, whenever they talk about a pandemic and they do a pandemic exercise, they throw forty percent on the template. That's that's the standard. So think about forty percent. You can't run a McDonald's with forty percent of the people out. They figured out forty percent will be either sick or taking care of someone that's sick. Think about forty percent of the independent truck drivers not bringing groceries to the grocery store. Forty percent of the grocery workers not there, so it's going to be a total collapse. Okay, all right, And this is why we prep We keep extra food, we keep extra conditions in our house because unfortunately we don't know what's going to happen tomorrow. And with flu season coming up, I'd rather bunk down in the house for a week than risk getting sick going out just to go Christmas shop and guess, oh my gosh, my kids have more than enough here. We can make it work. Yeah. And you know, I was in Pennsylvania Emergency Management and they had a pandemic exercise and I had to explain to these people how bad a pandemic actually is. And I said, it's the second largest natural disaster that can occur, second only to an asteroid hitting the planet. And then I think they got it. Well, you know you It's also something you mentioned in your class from properate Camp. I'm gonna mention is, if you're going to look at a scenario, I'm not saying a nuclear or an EMP isn't likely, but like you said, is you're more than likely to meet something that's considered biological than you are something on those other levels. Right, it's the thing that scared me to death. So after that Dark Winner exercise, Operation Dark Winner, we put into place a series of protections on a nationwide scale. Since then, because we have a short memory, those stockpiles and supplies have dwindled down. So we have enough right now to handle one outbreak, only one. Yeah, and it's probably not even on the scale that it would actually be. No. And you know, it's like, if you're going to attack a country with smallpox, you're not going to just fly into New York and let it go. No, You're you're going to do mass exposure. Yep, every major metropolitan area that you could put someone in to spread the disease, you're going. To do that. If you think about it, Take four prime people, stick them in a major, uh pert populated area, whether it be down on what is it's Grand Central Station, whether it be an airport, or whether it be in Central Park, wherever you're going to have mass population. And if you want to get out there and get really conspiracist, pardon me on this one, get put it you put into the water source. Well, yeah, but water is not a good medium, because no, it's not. But I'm just saying, if you if you look at your factors, you know you have different variants, but your biggest thing is going to be large populated areas. I got sick. I was in a d MB, packed to the brim with other people. I believe it or not, I blame my husband. I'm not mad at them. But I was going because I was getting my birthday gift, which was my concealed carryl. You know, I don't have to have it. I have my instructor's certification, so I was getting it to have my enhanced carry sticker on there. Nice. So yeah, So I mean that's what you would do, you know, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Dallas, Exactly right. You pretty much cover the country and you infect as many people. But you also got to think I would thank either major airports like. Atlanta absolutely every cross. Or major tourist areas like disney World and Disneyland. Yes, because if you can affect those which are the elderly and the very young, which their immune systems are going to be more likely to pick up anything you get, yep, then you can transmit it. Because everybody touches a baby, and everybody helps an older person. Yep, I mean, should we talk more about what you need to have on hand? Alcohol, plorox, hydrogen peroxide, the seven percent solution. Okay, you need to have the latex gloves and ninety five masks, large trash bags, duct tape. You don't think you. Can use the normal surgical mask if you need them, But if you have them, it's going to be like your safety gear. You are going to be limited on the amount of time you're wearing them. Now, if it's you're having the sick individual, put the mask on, perfect because it is going to minimize them spreading it to you by containing it in one area versus them breathing out in the open air and you breathing it. You know what I mean. Yeah, plastic believe it or not, plastic bags or plastic and duct tape if you are creating a can say a containment room. Now, on the alcohol, you can use regular rebin alcohol and all of my first aid kids. I also keep clear liquor, whether it be tequila vodka is usually my go to and not to drink, but as a sanitation and uh so you can use that as well for sterilization or sanitation. If you do not have any available alcohol. Do not use brown liquors. I'm not saying they won't sterile, but they have a sugar in it, right, so you're gonna have issues with using anything that is made with a sugar base. Yep. Hey, and we're at about fifty eight minutes. Do you want to keep going? Okay, unless you want to stop. I feel like we're on a road. We could stop and do another one, but that's. A well, no, I'm good. I'm just saying I don't know what you want to. You know, it's your show, all right, you. Know what, if you want, we can stop here and put a pin in it and do another one and then that way, I mean, if you're down for it. Yeah, the kids are in bed, we're putting the dog away. Wait, you wanted to tune in on James tonight? You want to? I did, But it's no big, it's whatever. That's why I'm like, you run it. You're my guest. Okay. So we were talking about decontamination stuff. An ultraviolet wand. Yes, I cannot find that what I can not find it? So, folks, he was telling me that he got an ultraviolet wand, which is also used for another process of sterilization. And you said you exposed your items to it for for so. Many minutes, right, Yes, And it's it's as good as boiling it in water. I mean it it works as good as boiling it. And it's you can do clothing you can do now I found it, ah, And it's battery operated, so you can use it off grid. It's portable, so if you're going somewhere on vacation or something like that, and you, you know, are as paranoid as we are, you could take it with you and sterilize things that you go. Now, you're not supposed to use it on your hands, but any kind of equipment, sheets, pillow cases. I mean, if you don't have the time or the ability to boil these things in water. Look, you'll sterilize your toothbrush exactly. I keep extra toothbrushes in the in the house. But you don't understand is if you're in a situation, you may not be able to step out of the room to go get that other toothbrush. Right. And a lot of people don't realize if you get strap, you need to immediately get rid of your toothbrush or you will reinfect yourself with strap. Yeah, exactly, and you keep getting it over and over. So gee, what else? I gotta look through my notes here. I think, oh, I think I've thrown you off a little kilters. No, no, it was good. I said, let's get together and just riff, you know, and that's what we did. So this is wonderful. I found a pack of two UV lights for fe eight. Wow. There you go, there you go, and it's on Amazon. You can find them anywhere. They are different ones. I know you said yours wasn't very expensive but work just as great. Yeah. Yeah, Like, here's a quotable one for thirty dollars that is pretty neat and convenient, and then I wouldn't have to worry about accidentally breaking the bulb. Yeah, and you want to have these different ways of sterilizing things, Well, it. Works because your child's going to have a favorite levey or stuffed animal. So that's another thing is comfort, I know for us in this room. I'm actually sitting in the master bedroom, which was my containment room for several days. Is everything ended up being sterilized, washed down, bleach. I mean I literally cleaned the room three times before my husband would ever step foot back in here. I mean, if this is you know, it should be a part of everybody's prep and everything that we talked about here is inexpensive, easy to get right now, right now, if you wait, and if you have. Two bathrooms in your house, be thankful. Get soap, plenty of soap. Yeah, the stuff that destroys. Oh, that's another thing I wanted to talk about. So the year that H one N one actually hit the United States, we had less deaths from the normal flu than we did from other years, and that's because everybody was doing the right thing. You know, when you wash your hands, did you sing to yourself? Did you sing the ABC song or Happy Birthday? Because that's how long you got to leave the soap. On your There you go. I did the same when I'm brushing my teeth. Yes, that's how long you need to leave the soap on your hands. You you can't get hot enough water to sterilize your hands, so it's the soap that actually sterilizes it, and you need to leave it on there and work it in another thing. Coughing into your elbow pit before H one N one, you never saw anybody do that. No, you saw them cough into their hands. Yes, which helps spread the disease. Hand sanitizer, Hey James said about last week the Dollar Store preps. They have a sixteen ounce thing of hand sanitizer, okay, and it's great for starting fires. Uh. You know what, there are so many things that are great. It's because of the alcohol content. Yeah, exactly. It kills ninety nine point nine percent of germs and it's great as starting fires. So another thing that people may want to consider having on hand is when you run into these sort of infections, you're gonna have certain symptoms. Okay, so you're gonna have the body aches, so you can take certain medications to help with that, pain relievers, fever reducers, because fever is part of it, but you have to be careful with what you take and how much you take. There is a docent limit. So another thing some people may have sinus or nasal issues. Looking into a nasal decongestion or an antihistamine can actually help reduce some of the symptoms as well. So having your basic over the counters a good antihistamine that we all know has been a drill, but there are many nasal ones if you want to be specific. Chloropromazine is also in a lot of over the counter nasal reducers because it is an anahistamine. Phenol Eprin is a nasal decongestion which helps relieve some of the pressure. These are fancy names, I promise you, but they are literally what the drug name is. I am so used to working the pharmaceuticals that I look at the drug name its self versus what it is. Because your biggest issue a lot of people run into is they double up on the same medication without realizing it. One may say nasal decongestion and the sore prime example. I got my husband some sinus ed or sinus something and it has chloropromazine and phenol apron in it. Right, yes, but a lot of people don't realize your loraratidine, your setyrazene, your allegra is all also an antihistamine, so you're doubling up if you're taking the two together, and you don't want to do that. Sometimes the biggest issue people run into is they take the same medication. So guelfanisin, glaspysine, sorry that the the names are hard to pronounce on them is great with a different medication that does not have it in it. So you've got to make sure you look at what you musinxt DM. Your NIQ will pay attention to your medications, but keep these over the counters because, believe it or not, there's gonna hit a moment when you need them. Now, some people like liquid, I'd rather go capsule. Yeah, hey, and uh siline the nasal the saline nasal spray. I mean it's you can use it for more than just nasal spray. Oh right, nasin X Yeah. The Dollar Store has that. Too, Yeah, yes, and they do and they do and it all works as the same. So if you're having issues there, that is something that you usually don't have to worry about taking with some of the orls because of how it works. Right. Hey, well I'm getting the high side for Maria. So I think we gotta we gotta call it quits for a night. But I think no, I. Think that's awesome. I think we definitely need to do another one and pick back up on the remainder. I think that would be you know, what what we'll do is what I will be in chat room for this show and I will take notes and what we can do is answer questions that folks may have for. The next one, well, sure, and I plan to be there too. Hey, I wanted to tell people my email address if you have any questions is d L Jones at Dljones dot net. And James is going to put the next video up on Patreon and it's an hour and twenty minutes on nothing but biological warfare how to Protect Yourself. It's recorded before a live prepper audience, so their questions are the same questions you'll have, and you can see that on Patreon. Also, if anybody's looking for a good plan B and you're interested in a Fortitude Ranch, I can get you a ten percent discount on any membership that you choose, So email me. I'll get you a ten percent discount and you can go to Fortitude Ranch, Colorado. It's beautiful. See. I need to look into that. It's definitely been something that I've thought about. But thank you so much, Dave. I appreciate it. I hope you and your family have a great night. Tell the missus thank you for letting the letting Er lend you out to us for the show. And we will definitely have to do a continuation because I still feel like there was so much that we didn't get to cover Oh yeah, because it just the fluid itself or any sort of biological has such a large amount of info. We could actually. Cover absolutely anthrax. We need to even talk about anthrax? No, no, no, we didn't, and we didn't get into some of the other ones either, right right, all right, all right, folks, Well I do appreciate it. I hope everyone has a great night. Hopefully this was a lot better audio than the weekend before. Tune in though, because I bet you pretty soon we're going to have a part two as well. Thank you all, Take care Forgie. Welcome to NOWAYS noways nothing telling these ways. Thank you for listening to the Prepper Broadcasting Network, where we promote self reliance and independence. Tune in tomorrow for another great show and visit us at Prepper Broadcasting dot comm.