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[00:00:00] Welcome to Through the Veil.
[00:00:18] I am your host and guide, Lisa T. This is my second episode and I have my friend and
[00:00:26] very first guest, Jordan, of the Phoenix Survival podcast, part of the Prepper Broadcasting family.
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[00:00:59] Okay, business over.
[00:01:01] So hi everybody, this is Jordan.
[00:01:04] Say hi Jordan.
[00:01:05] Hello everyone.
[00:01:06] Jordan came up with a beautiful idea for a second episode and we're going to talk
[00:01:12] about women's intuition.
[00:01:17] I was originally going to try asking about like when she thought she knew she had
[00:01:23] but I was respecting her wishes and not bringing anything up.
[00:01:27] So I love her idea better now of women's intuition.
[00:01:31] So how often has women's intuition worked with you, Jordan?
[00:01:37] You know what?
[00:01:38] Intuition, premonition, however you want to call it, has actually saved me a lot,
[00:01:43] a lot.
[00:01:44] Whether it be, hey something's off with this person, you know, I'm getting a bad
[00:01:51] vibe.
[00:01:52] I don't know what most people would refer to it as, but it's always that gut feeling.
[00:01:59] Whether the vibe fills off or something feels hinky, you know, it's just listening
[00:02:05] to that.
[00:02:06] Sometimes it's as simple as something tells me you need to get up and go do this right
[00:02:10] now.
[00:02:11] Is it, I'm sorry?
[00:02:12] Oh no, go ahead.
[00:02:14] I was going to say is it that, do you get your feeling like from your utz area or do
[00:02:21] you feel it somewhere else?
[00:02:23] Okay so define utz.
[00:02:28] Like I was trying to tell the commander.
[00:02:30] For me it's this, okay I got the word from The Butition and the Beast and friend
[00:02:35] Dresher is talking about whenever she has a feeling she feels this utz and it's
[00:02:40] when she was describing in the movie, she's looking at her third chakra which is like
[00:02:45] the middle of your stomach and I thought to myself you know what that's exactly
[00:02:48] what it feels like.
[00:02:49] It feels like an utz when something is telling me something.
[00:02:53] So for me whenever I am having feelings or premonitions as we would say, my utz
[00:03:03] goes through the roof.
[00:03:06] I get like butterflies or like for the past week or so for me it's my stomach just feels
[00:03:13] off, my back hurts and so at first I thought I was like maybe the flu but I've been
[00:03:18] learning more and more it's my utz saying something's happening.
[00:03:21] Is that what happens with you or do you have your?
[00:03:23] Yes I guess that's the utz.
[00:03:25] I'll have to start calling it that now.
[00:03:27] It's that gut feeling.
[00:03:29] It's almost a visceral response but it is yes my guts.
[00:03:36] It's almost like when your heart drops down to your stomach almost sensation but it's
[00:03:41] deeper than that so yes it would be that gut feeling, that sensation maybe it's not
[00:03:47] even that maybe it's all of a sudden like I feel icky and the sense of my back
[00:03:53] feels like right in between the shoulder blades.
[00:03:55] It's either the gut or you get like something is running down your back but it's just between
[00:04:01] your upper back and your shoulder blades so yes.
[00:04:03] You get upper back yeah.
[00:04:05] Yeah so for me it depends on the feeling or the sensation or whatever my intuition
[00:04:11] is is you know something was off.
[00:04:15] I think my earliest, I mean I would have what you'd call a premonition but my
[00:04:22] earliest gut feeling was when I was a teenager.
[00:04:25] I had gotten, I had been invited out and I actually turned it down.
[00:04:32] Something told me it was off the whole situation something wasn't right and what ended up
[00:04:38] happening is that same night with that same young man who asked me to come hang out
[00:04:45] and you know I thought he was attractive.
[00:04:47] I was a you know 15, 16 year old teenager.
[00:04:50] I thought okay I'd be down and then whatever it was told me not to and I turned it down.
[00:04:54] Turned him down hanging out and him and his brother and another girl I went to school
[00:04:59] with we were in the same grade ended up wrecking.
[00:05:02] You wrapped the car around a pole he was drunk and she died on impact and his little
[00:05:08] brother broke his leg and his arm in the back seat so it was one of those situations
[00:05:13] where unfortunately someone did die and it broke my heart because I went to school
[00:05:19] with a girl.
[00:05:20] She was a sweet young woman.
[00:05:22] I had great potential and one night of you know I turned him down on going out
[00:05:28] and he was a bit of a you know attractive young player.
[00:05:33] I don't know what you would call, well I know what you would call him now.
[00:05:36] A player.
[00:05:37] But they call him something else.
[00:05:39] And yeah I turned down a chance to hang out with someone I kind of thought was attractive
[00:05:45] all because something in my gut said no this isn't right something's off and then
[00:05:50] proceeded that same night he wrapped the car around a pole and someone died in that
[00:05:55] accident that potentially could have been me in that passenger seat.
[00:05:59] Wow.
[00:06:01] So with me whenever my it's like for me lately it's yeah the stomach region
[00:06:07] third shock I believe we're going to call it in the middle of my back I get like this
[00:06:11] annoying backache.
[00:06:13] Have you have you ever noticed when your it's just to me it's like almost in season
[00:06:21] it used to be I should say if there was an emotion attached it always came true
[00:06:26] have you noticed that?
[00:06:28] Yes I think for me though what you call emotion for yes or it would be a certain
[00:06:35] feeling.
[00:06:37] So yeah I guess it would be emotion like okay not something I've really told anybody
[00:06:43] but I knew you know I had someone in my life really cared about him older gentleman
[00:06:50] and every time I looked at him I just knew he was sick and it was more or less that
[00:06:56] heaviness that's associated around death that sadness that almost that veil feeling
[00:07:03] and I kept saying he's sick he's sick he is going to if he'll he I will be
[00:07:10] surprised if he makes it a year and I had that that feeling or that emotion
[00:07:15] of of sick of illness and then found out within within that short time frame
[00:07:23] he had cancer and that oh wow they thought it was just in one part of his
[00:07:29] body then they traced it back and thought it was in that part and then
[00:07:32] come find out it was actually in his lungs and it had completely metastasized
[00:07:36] by the time they had actually found it in the wrong organ and he didn't take a
[00:07:40] year and it broke my heart because I love this man he was essentially family
[00:07:46] but yes it was for me it was that feeling of illness of sick and with it
[00:07:54] the emotion that death brings if that is the right way to explain it
[00:07:59] it's kind of funny to be talking about it aloud because you get used to those
[00:08:04] sensations or those feelings around it that when you have to express it in a
[00:08:09] verbal sense to someone else it's almost indescribable
[00:08:13] No, yeah see that's why I like the idea of this podcast is because too many
[00:08:19] of us have kept stuff in and it's affected us and we felt like we were
[00:08:23] alone when you were talking about that feeling you brought to mind when
[00:08:28] my third husband when we were dating I always kept getting I turned off my
[00:08:34] gift and it was always saying he's not don't drop him drop him and I was
[00:08:40] like no no I can help him everything that could go wrong happened with
[00:08:45] this and that's what I've learned like I did not follow my intuition
[00:08:50] have you ever had any yeah have you ever had any weird issues of like
[00:08:54] going to a place or being somebody that aside from this one that you're
[00:08:59] like oh good god and I don't know if I could name one specific but there have
[00:09:06] been many a times many a time and my young and adult life where something
[00:09:11] told me no no you need to stay away from this you need to and then lo and
[00:09:18] behold it happens or something happens to the point that you knew it was going
[00:09:24] to happen and everything in your gut told you not to go or not to do it or
[00:09:29] you told a friend you know what so prime example wouldn't be me personally
[00:09:34] but I knew someone when they were younger this is a much older adult who
[00:09:39] you know them and their friends were hanging out and they met someone
[00:09:43] and their gut told them that something was all wrong with that
[00:09:47] individual all wrong and one of the friends ended up going with that
[00:09:52] individual and ended up not being ever found alive again from that oh my
[00:09:59] goal and it's so it those are extreme moments and I hate to say the
[00:10:03] extreme moments but I think it's as simple as I you know men have those
[00:10:08] intuitions too but I don't think all men are as sensitive as women and
[00:10:13] that's yeah yeah we're in tuned on that emotional end be it that I agree
[00:10:19] others and caregivers and yes you know that we we feel deeply not saying men
[00:10:28] don't not trying to discredit them in any ways but there is a no no in
[00:10:32] which women are more in tuned emotionally then then men are if yeah
[00:10:38] because they're taught to keep their emotions and be strong and we're
[00:10:43] taught we we just feel it's yeah when you're something interesting when I
[00:10:49] was with my third husband the one that the whole factor thing I was so
[00:10:56] shut down that normally if I had if I was the way I am now I would have
[00:11:02] figured out that the place the apartment we were in was so not the
[00:11:07] place what had happened we I found out a couple months later after I fled
[00:11:12] and had disappeared because he was so crazy I heard from one of the
[00:11:18] neighbors he said oh yeah we're sorry to see you leave you were in
[00:11:22] the haunted apartment I went what I turns out there was something in that
[00:11:27] apartment that any couple or any people that lived in there had things go
[00:11:32] terribly wrong to the point where two to three years before I was living in
[00:11:38] there there was a mother and daughter that they killed themselves the same
[00:11:44] way that Robin Williams did they one was found with a belt around her
[00:11:49] neck in the closet the other with the belt around the doorknob in the
[00:11:54] apartment another one that I thought was a little more traumatic I half
[00:11:59] laughed but then half went oh my god was a another couple right after
[00:12:04] that incident a man and woman the woman breaks up with the guy he is so
[00:12:09] distraught he castrated himself and shoved his piece down the disposal
[00:12:18] all I remember is when I heard that I thought I was using that disposal what
[00:12:23] the heck right you know it's fun oh my god I hate to digress down a
[00:12:28] different path but you know it's it's oh right you say that because a
[00:12:33] personal experience that happened right after the first time I was married
[00:12:38] and when I was young I married young and me too I knew I'm gonna tell
[00:12:44] you right now everything in me told me not to marry him and I married him
[00:12:49] out of the whole southern tradition of I was pregnant we were already
[00:12:53] engaged but we were pregnant so it kind of expe expe dited things but we
[00:13:00] moved into a little apartment role you know like quadplex whatever you know
[00:13:05] where it's all single apartments all connected to each other and it always
[00:13:11] felt dark to me in the sense that it was just you know very just heavy and
[00:13:20] dark well I there was one evening where we were sleeping and I could hear
[00:13:25] rustling under the bed and I just assumed it was the we were you know
[00:13:30] couple in our first place we didn't have a comforter we were using my
[00:13:34] sleeping bag as a comforter so the straps were hanging into the bed so I
[00:13:38] figured it was just the vents well mind you we had found a mirror in this
[00:13:42] house and I for whatever reason could not have the mirror in the room put up
[00:13:47] it had to be in the closet and the closet door had to stay closed for
[00:13:52] whatever reason that room we were in even though it was the master bedroom
[00:13:56] just felt dark and heavy so I heard the rustling under the bed and I just
[00:14:02] figured it was the straps moving around right not a bright like okay
[00:14:06] I wake up the next day and I'm like what was that sound and I look and the
[00:14:10] vent is actually above our door above the bedroom door no okay the end of the
[00:14:16] bed the end of the bed was where the closet door was not even a few feet
[00:14:20] with the closet door where the straps were hanging down so I was already I
[00:14:26] couldn't go through that part of the house if the lights were off like I
[00:14:30] would literally I was that scared child in the dark where and I've never
[00:14:34] had a problem with the dark where I'd have to run flip the switch and take
[00:14:37] off running because if the light didn't go on I couldn't stand in that room
[00:14:40] oh wow incidents in that house where I had oh the glass cookware the heavy
[00:14:49] duty glass cookware my brains not working on what it was called
[00:14:52] divisions the crop yeah the other yeah the pyrex well I had pyrex and
[00:14:56] I was cooking one day stepped out of the kitchen to grab something now
[00:14:59] the bedroom came back and every single lid on all four burners on each
[00:15:03] of the Pyrex jars were completely askew which these are heavy lids so
[00:15:08] they're very heavy right so something just felt off and felt dark to the
[00:15:12] point that when I was pregnant at that time I couldn't sleep in the bedroom
[00:15:16] I'd sleep on the couch well unfortunately one of those afternoons
[00:15:20] I was taking a nap something always felt off come find out in the
[00:15:26] apartment right next to the wall I was sleeping next to my neighbor committed
[00:15:34] suicide and she didn't die right away she shot her twice in the chest and
[00:15:40] they found the blood from her bedroom to the bathroom sink back to her
[00:15:44] bedroom where she had to do it twice to the point that I was woken up by
[00:15:48] the cops knocking on my door saying have you heard from your neighbor I'm
[00:15:52] like no I was asleep the whole time that I had to get out one of my wire
[00:15:56] hangers for them to break into the door to find out she had that this place
[00:16:02] was dark enough that she thought she was going to be homeless so she took
[00:16:06] her own life so it was one of those things where it felt like that
[00:16:09] environment held a darkness to it and unfortunately she even felt that same
[00:16:16] darkness of thinking she didn't have anywhere to go and you know
[00:16:20] unfortunate and I felt bad that I slept through that whole thing and never
[00:16:25] heard her but come find out she used a very small caliber gun so that's why
[00:16:30] the choice right yes and so it was one of those things where it just
[00:16:37] broke my heart that that darkness was felt all the way across and someone
[00:16:42] ended up dying with me right there and me not even known or be able to
[00:16:48] give any sort of relief or call the cops or anything oh my gosh no let me ask
[00:16:54] you something traumatize the listeners I'm sorry and I have to apologize to
[00:17:00] the listeners if you hear this weird noise in the background the bloody
[00:17:04] cicadas are in full swing here in Tennessee oh I'm hearing them right
[00:17:08] now and I sent a recording to the commander that I am going to ask him
[00:17:13] to play it as bumper music because they're annoying and I thought the
[00:17:18] listeners might enjoy listening to the annoying sounds of cicadas in full
[00:17:22] swing in Tennessee now back to our story let me ask you this if it's too
[00:17:28] personal let me know when you first started feeling your gift did it
[00:17:32] evolve or did it happen all at once because I've actually known some
[00:17:37] people that when they became like 13 14 it was on like a light switch and they
[00:17:44] suddenly had if they were on and it like with my sister it happened with
[00:17:50] her where she just went crazy so me first I was actually if this is going
[00:17:57] to sound outlandish to you which is not on this podcast I was three whoa
[00:18:06] so I was three with the first time I had my first encounter if that's what
[00:18:13] you want to call it but it is never it may be eased up a little bit once I
[00:18:20] got a little older or I thought to shut it off and dependent on the place
[00:18:25] if it's clean and for me when I say clean I mean there's not been any
[00:18:31] darkness left us and right a death or you know people's negative energy I don't
[00:18:36] know how to say it or echoes but I was I was three years old wow never
[00:18:45] forget what I saw it now that one I won't disclose only because no that's
[00:18:51] okay that's very very personal with me and my family but yes that's some
[00:18:56] problem but yeah very young age to the point that and you're three you don't
[00:19:05] understand whatever is happening I knew what it was and I well told my mother
[00:19:12] like it would this wasn't anything that was new in the sense it was just
[00:19:17] probably my most vivid recollection recollection it was my most my
[00:19:22] biggest one and then after that it's just been it's always been kind of a
[00:19:28] constant whether it be you what people would call a sensitivity to what people
[00:19:35] would call a permanent permanent premonition oh trying to say the
[00:19:40] right word it's Thursday right to having some sort of premonitions to
[00:19:46] some sort of senses to even as far as being almost a a bug light and oh my
[00:19:58] god that's a great concept yeah I guess sometimes feel like one of those bug
[00:20:03] lamps and I don't know what is what's going to be attracted in especially
[00:20:09] depending on where I'm at sometimes it's people sometimes it is people who
[00:20:13] open up and I learn a lot more than I ever even asked for which is fine if
[00:20:18] people feel that they need to open up and talk I have no problems with it
[00:20:23] other times it's it's not exactly people sometimes it's energy sometimes
[00:20:29] it's I've gotten that yeah from a place yeah yeah but you're like
[00:20:36] you're something dark now are you at the point where do you have seasons like
[00:20:44] where sometimes like certain times of the year you feel more of it versus
[00:20:50] others I used to be like that but ever since last year when I was being
[00:20:54] downloaded it's like I'm on a lot and I'm I'm going nuts from it I'm
[00:21:00] suffering from insomnia have you been seeing anything different lately for
[00:21:05] yourself I wouldn't say seasons I think it would it almost comes like waves
[00:21:11] kind of like the tide yeah you know you have high tide you have low tide
[00:21:16] but it never stops so for for me I had a way that it was gonna say that I
[00:21:28] thought would work well but for me it's almost it's almost like I wouldn't
[00:21:34] say I think there's periods in your life where emotionally you're disconnected
[00:21:39] and so it's less but other times where I think at this point it's just
[00:21:44] kind of kind of just stays on just what you noticed is dependent upon the
[00:21:52] tide how much is being washed ashore and how much is being drawn back out
[00:21:56] I like how you're saying that because it sounds like you've been able to
[00:22:01] understand your gift way longer than me because for me barely having it when
[00:22:08] I was a teenager and I just whatever and like in my family it was an open
[00:22:13] concept or whatever and what I know in my family it's definitely in the
[00:22:16] bloodline it did not turn on until like I was in my mid to late 20s and
[00:22:20] I would just ignore it and I would notice to me was like a flicker like
[00:22:23] a like when you're trying to strike a match or to start a fire there'd
[00:22:27] be times where it's on other times it's like not quite and I can understand
[00:22:33] where you're getting out on that because it is it is okay so the way I
[00:22:39] could explain what you went through is kind of like when you have a
[00:22:43] flashlight right except you have something blocking the light and
[00:22:48] sometimes it's it's a full piece of black cloth sometimes it's mesh and
[00:22:54] then sometimes you have nothing in the light at all and that's what it is is
[00:22:58] when you're younger some people it is a it is an effort to see through the
[00:23:07] mesh if that makes sense to see through the veil exactly right the
[00:23:11] film that's covering your flashlight and then there are times where
[00:23:15] emotionally you just turn the light on or off yes yes and that's the
[00:23:22] listener something we were discussing when we were trying to test the audio
[00:23:25] I was driving home from work we were both saying like we know something's
[00:23:30] up have you been feeling that too oh yeah I've I am on edge yes I'd say for
[00:23:40] the last few months there have been times where I will call my partner
[00:23:44] I'll come home and I'm like hey we need to do this and he doesn't
[00:23:48] question it he goes okay he goes your guts usually right so yeah he'd rather
[00:23:54] be over over prepared than under prepared for whatever it is and there
[00:23:58] are days he comes home and if he says the same thing hey I've had this
[00:24:01] villain I listen only because you know men don't usually get the feeling
[00:24:07] as much as women and if we've got something eaten at him all right we're
[00:24:12] gonna go do it yeah that's interesting yeah now I have a question for you if
[00:24:19] you don't mind do you know or believe that your ability or sensitivity or
[00:24:25] can amplify in others who necessarily don't yes and I actually sorry about
[00:24:34] that that's Bruno getting upset with the squirrel yes it was something I
[00:24:39] was in my mid-20s and it was my first marriage and I was very upset with my
[00:24:48] ex-husband I had a fight and I was real good friends with another friend
[00:24:52] and I remember I was sitting down somewhere and I just kept thinking oh
[00:24:59] my god I wish he was here wait he was like my best friend said I wish
[00:25:04] you were here you would totally understand what's going on and damned if
[00:25:08] within minutes he called and he said why are you crying I just suddenly had
[00:25:15] a picture of you you were sitting you're wearing he knew exactly what I
[00:25:19] was wearing and he could feel it and then that's when I realized oh my
[00:25:25] god emotion he not he felt my emotion to the point where I sent him
[00:25:31] right and that's and that's on your end because of how your connection is so
[00:25:36] same for me have had that happen hundreds of times especially with some
[00:25:42] of my dear friends I will get that gut feeling I need to call them or oh
[00:25:47] god something's happened and as soon as I call them what happened and
[00:25:51] they're like oh my god how did you know I said I didn't you have to
[00:25:54] tell me though and so all of my girlfriends know that if I call them
[00:25:58] and ask what happened they don't even question it anymore you know what I mean
[00:26:03] it's more or less they know if I'm calling it's and it'll be at a time
[00:26:09] where they they so I had a friend going through something where they they
[00:26:14] were upset and rightfully so with things that were going on and I'm like
[00:26:18] okay I'm here well no no this is something you can't hold in and at the
[00:26:24] end of it they felt better you know it's and it wasn't that I was trying to
[00:26:29] be forceful even though anyone who knows my personality I am a forceful person
[00:26:33] but it was one of those I knew this was something they could not hold in
[00:26:37] yeah it would only hurt them more so I lost friendship have you lost
[00:26:43] friendships when you try to warn somebody yes yes I have yeah
[00:26:48] absolutely yeah what I find those losses even though they're sad I
[00:26:53] don't mourn it only because close friends and people that you trust who
[00:26:59] understand you and understand what you're saying will tell you who who
[00:27:04] who love you that they don't want to listen to you but they respect the
[00:27:08] outcome if that's how it happens okay those are people who respect it the
[00:27:11] people I've lost from that I lost them for a reason and yeah I don't
[00:27:17] struggle to try to get them back it's sad to lose them but at the
[00:27:21] same time I cannot drain that emotional energy to connect myself to someone
[00:27:26] who's cannot do anything right for themselves yeah that my problem has
[00:27:31] been that as a sensitive leaning now actually morphing into a sensitive
[00:27:36] empath when that happened a couple of times when I would try out of love
[00:27:43] to warn somebody about something they were like you put it on the
[00:27:47] universe and that other that and so it hit me so hard I've had to realize okay
[00:27:54] this is not meant to be so well and how to learn there are certain times
[00:27:59] it's better not to say and just watch it come to fruition and I know
[00:28:04] that's horrible because it's not not that you don't want to get friends
[00:28:08] warnings it's the issue of if you say too much so again I'm going to
[00:28:15] digress I in my mind and my understanding and the people I've
[00:28:20] encountered there are different gifts and abilities and there is a gift of
[00:28:26] word that I have known someone that anytime she said it and it was
[00:28:31] usually negative it happened and it all happened right to the point that it
[00:28:37] came to a point where I would say if you have a negative thought you
[00:28:42] I need because every time something and this person is just a negative nasty
[00:28:50] person and yeah and that's where they're at in life and the sad thing is
[00:28:55] is I still love her still lover and she has her gifts but the thing is is
[00:29:00] her gift has shaped into the gift of words but the problem is is those
[00:29:09] negative words hold so much power that they happen and I've had it happen so
[00:29:14] many times over the years back to back to back to back every time she said
[00:29:19] it to a point I had to say I love you but if it is negative I cannot hear
[00:29:25] another thing yeah it wasn't a warning it was more like spitting
[00:29:30] venom in someone's face yes yes there's a difference between giving
[00:29:37] someone a warning and telling them well this is what's gonna happen you know I
[00:29:42] mean it wasn't out of kindness it wasn't out of love it was out of pure
[00:29:47] darkness yeah it's funny you should say that too because the friend that
[00:29:54] was on the road trip when I did the Utah trip she was not to be too
[00:30:02] negative but she's a Debbie Downer and I was like try to be a bright
[00:30:06] light for her and I thought okay a road trip let's just get out and it seemed
[00:30:11] to be okay but I will say the week that we spent when I was out here in
[00:30:15] August both my friend that we were staying at her house and I we were
[00:30:20] emotionally exhausted because I never realized how much this woman is it's
[00:30:27] a drain she drains your energy so it's kind of like yeah all right yeah
[00:30:32] have you ever been to New Orleans no I want to know we're coming I went to New
[00:30:39] Orleans I visited you know some of the other podcasters and their families
[00:30:44] down there and took myself camping and I decided I wanted to go to the World
[00:30:48] War two museum love that museum it's amazing well then I decided I want to
[00:30:54] drive past the French quarters I've never been yeah I didn't stop I it was
[00:31:02] one it's dark like in the sense of dark energy it's not bright it's not
[00:31:08] happy and it smells of urine like it's it's dirty like it's nasty
[00:31:13] seriously oh yes it makes you think of the slums and people love that
[00:31:17] place and I was emotionally drained that I had a girlfriend tell me well
[00:31:23] you know New Orleans is voodoo black magic and energy vampires I'm like well
[00:31:28] then that makes sense because I was so drained and tired that I had to just
[00:31:34] get out of there as quickly as possible oh no to self so I have to
[00:31:38] make sure I'm bubbled up that they won't come near me that's interesting
[00:31:41] oh my god think about it if it's a culture that allows so much darkness
[00:31:46] and black magic you know not saying it's all negative but there but you
[00:31:51] know there's usually a lot of negative energy or thought thoughts attached to
[00:31:55] that okay here's an offshoot question given your gifts how is this tied in
[00:32:03] with prepping I'm curious you're gonna laugh when I tell you my story
[00:32:07] you're gonna laugh your head if I know it it is tied in the sense that
[00:32:13] I am probably more emotionally motivated from not only my life
[00:32:20] experiences but gut feelings in which I had a moment where everything told me
[00:32:27] start putting up cash start putting up cash and it didn't matter I knew my
[00:32:31] account was low I would take out so much every week and put it up and put
[00:32:35] it up and put it up to the point of something happened and it depleted all
[00:32:40] of the cash that was put up but that deplete that's what that cash was
[00:32:45] there for so yes I have had times where sometimes that gut feeling of telling
[00:32:52] you to do something even though it may seem completely out of the blue and
[00:32:58] unrealistic sometimes that gut feeling is what saves you in the sense of my
[00:33:04] gut feeling tells me to make sure we have too much of this or too much
[00:33:08] of that and then something happens and we needed that.
[00:33:12] Okay here's my embarrassing one. When coming into prepping actually it was just
[00:33:22] well my dad was an army guy he always made sure that you know we had food
[00:33:25] on the table and he took care of us and what have you when I was a little
[00:33:29] kid in the San Fernando Valley on Saturday mornings there would be
[00:33:33] Godzilla movies and my favorite part of them was always when we got to evacuate
[00:33:40] Tokyo I would have so much fun trying to see how many of the villagers I could
[00:33:45] count with their big woven baskets and what they would put in them and
[00:33:49] they'd be saying oh they got a baby in that one why are they carrying a
[00:33:52] tatami and a pillow that makes no sense I would just laugh but then I
[00:33:56] started thinking wow if I had a lead what would I carry and you know as a
[00:34:00] kid it would be like oh I'd carry my Barbie dolls and then years later there
[00:34:07] was one movie it was like the Hydra the three-headed monster I had that
[00:34:12] movie first time I saw it on TV I was so traumatized I remember like it was
[00:34:18] yesterday that my home got destroyed and me and my sister had to walk all
[00:34:25] the way back to Ohio mind you in our minds we're thinking Ohio's only
[00:34:29] like two states over and we were in the dream I'm trying to figure out how
[00:34:34] we're gonna put whatever we want to take with us in our radio flyer wagon
[00:34:38] and how we could carry the pets in our Barbies and try going across
[00:34:44] country and it was just like oh my gosh and then it was funny you said
[00:34:50] they hit me the other day and I was to the listeners I was telling
[00:34:57] Jordan that I had a couple episodes I was trying to drop and I kept
[00:35:02] distracting myself aside from the stupid cicadas and all of a sudden I
[00:35:05] found myself ranting and I went oh my god that's what got me prepping was the
[00:35:09] freaking Godzilla movies and since then I had fun because I'm into like
[00:35:13] era two and three of Godzilla and nowadays when you watch it even the
[00:35:18] Bryan Cranston one if you look in the background you will see people
[00:35:22] carrying laptops and once or twice you might find a villager with baskets
[00:35:27] Karen stuff
[00:35:37] it's light-hearted I like that I started prepping early because we were
[00:35:42] poor and we were told we had to prepare my mother told us the world
[00:35:49] is going to turn down or turn however you want to say it it's going to fall
[00:35:54] apart it's gonna collapse the world is going to stop but I have one idea to
[00:36:01] keep going yeah yeah my dad was my dad was always like we always had
[00:36:08] food on the table water in the pantry and the weird thing is like
[00:36:11] during the 94 earthquake he's this is when they used to make like the
[00:36:15] milk bottles they didn't have water in the gallon jugs he would like what have
[00:36:20] my mom wash the milk jugs and he put water in there we had about 50 bottles
[00:36:24] and with the Northridge earthquake with the first quake nothing happened
[00:36:29] but with somewhere in the middle of the thousand aftershocks it broke his
[00:36:35] water collection and oh so disgusting and I remember learning okay water
[00:36:41] must be kept in a different type of container because we don't want to
[00:36:43] see roaches the way we did and that's how we got to meet the neighbor across
[00:36:48] the street because his pool popped up above ground it was an in-built ground
[00:36:53] pool it popped up a foot it had a crack and he was losing water and so
[00:36:57] my dad went over to help him and my mom you know my mom being my mom she
[00:37:03] is Cuban in her she made meals and the neighbors like how are you doing
[00:37:08] this my dad was just like oh we're barbecuing here have some food and
[00:37:11] we got pool water and I learned and ever since then I've just been honing
[00:37:16] that's funny no oh no reshapens because I think for me really seen my mother
[00:37:22] actually talk about prepping with Y2K oh yes yes right that was when yeah
[00:37:31] I'm sorry I'm gonna throw something out there real quick so off the off
[00:37:35] the beaten path before we got the group messages or on element about the EMP
[00:37:42] stuff you know with the solar what's going on there with the four so it's
[00:37:48] funny is a few days ago it's been running through my head to go through
[00:37:53] a water a water practice in the sense of can I get to all my empty
[00:38:01] containers how quickly can I fill them can I feel the sinks can I feel the tubs
[00:38:06] like I literally have been in the last few days running through water
[00:38:10] practice like water collection in a short period of time so it's funny
[00:38:17] that you know you mentioned that because in the last few days I don't
[00:38:20] know if anyone else has maybe it's just my brain being in overload
[00:38:24] because when things get stressful I immediately divert my energy to things
[00:38:27] I know I can control and things that I know I can do and that has been one of
[00:38:32] my thought processes is what happens if the power goes out and we need water
[00:38:37] okay well can I collect this here there and there so it's like my guts
[00:38:42] been telling me look at water look at water that's funny because James
[00:38:46] has started mentioned that again too and it's like oh okay we're kind of
[00:38:50] on the same page it's not the gut it's the yeah it's funny when I was
[00:38:59] unemployed and I was job hunting my it started where it was just like get
[00:39:05] water get water and I was like I really don't have the money and it's
[00:39:08] funny I kept getting this not clear audience but it was like I hear
[00:39:14] something say you're gonna be okay just start buying water and I can tell when
[00:39:20] it some whatever it is my guardian angels will tell me okay it's enough
[00:39:25] you're okay and I did that just the other day too where I was listening to
[00:39:31] the collapse app that he had said listen one of the exercises and I
[00:39:34] found out here in Tennessee we would lose our electricity which means the
[00:39:38] toilets and whatever the within half an hour so I made sure that I have more
[00:39:45] than enough like tap water whatever so in case I'm at work and I have to get
[00:39:50] home and I can't get to water at least I know I have I see from my
[00:39:54] stash that I just did on my tally it's funny you had that same feeling
[00:39:58] too I think I have well my big thing was is we have water but our
[00:40:04] water is not necessarily safe drinkable we've all gotten sick on it so that's
[00:40:08] why we do container water but that's why I have my ozone pin that's why we
[00:40:13] all have Sawyer mini filters that's why we have other purification
[00:40:17] techniques and then yeah I had already assigned you know what water would be
[00:40:22] gray water what water and what container would be for the chicken
[00:40:25] yeah what water you know like I have already allotted which containers
[00:40:29] are for what purpose of use for water how much water do you have right now
[00:40:34] saved right now not enough like a month a month not not no not even not even
[00:40:40] if I'm truthful with you I maybe have a couple days if that I try to think
[00:40:45] for myself right now cuz yeah I made sure I have two I have two five
[00:40:51] gallons and they're just strictly tap water and I've yeah I I have like
[00:40:55] an orange Home Depot five gallon bin that's the toilet with cat litter and
[00:41:01] bags and I figure okay that's for matter I think I if I add up
[00:41:07] everything I think I've got 46 days worth of water so I think I added it
[00:41:13] a gallon a day per person yeah so Bruner does not drink a lot of water
[00:41:19] that's not included in toilet or waste depending on if you've got it down to
[00:41:24] liquids you know if it's yellow let it mellow if it's brown flush it down
[00:41:28] and or use cat litter put it in a bag let's see I'm trying to think now I'm
[00:41:33] actually I think that yeah I added to 40 60 I forgot how many gallons but
[00:41:39] I was like okay it's okay for now just because um yeah we should be more
[00:41:44] but like you I'm limited as to space I would love to have one of the basement
[00:41:49] that I would make like my little G I'd like to see three different types ways
[00:41:57] of purifying oh I have three different ways of purifying but yeah right now
[00:42:03] I'm like okay it's okay oh one of the things I was noticing too was
[00:42:08] that lately when we when I did the pilot episode with a commander and that
[00:42:18] right after that was when I was starting to have my insomnia my god all of a sudden
[00:42:22] I had to go to the market I'm like wait I'm trying to pay down my credit card
[00:42:25] and it's like no max out the cards I end up buying extra stuff I don't know
[00:42:29] why I'm just learning okay they're telling me to do this all right but
[00:42:33] weird thing was when I was in line so many people I could hear them they're
[00:42:39] saying oh something's going on someone's going on and why is your child
[00:42:42] husband no getting another bag get another more of this we can live off
[00:42:45] rice and beans for a while I kept thinking oh my god I'm not alone
[00:42:48] no and it's weird. There's a lot going on that I think people are realizing
[00:42:53] whether it's palpable it is and it's to the point that it's got
[00:42:59] people a bit unnerved it could probably be the best word yeah and they can't
[00:43:05] handle it and that's what I'm learning that I think one of the things that
[00:43:10] have from one of my downloads aside from I'm now attached to nature in
[00:43:16] animals in one big way another one is how to describe it oh I can't even
[00:43:25] find a word to describe it and this is why I'm glad I have the podcast
[00:43:28] you can understand I want to help people but if they don't have the gift
[00:43:34] they're gonna freak out and I'm trying to figure out how to calm them down
[00:43:37] when they see what happens what we know is coming and then the rest of
[00:43:44] the world that if they weren't awake and they see it how to calm them
[00:43:50] down that's something I could tell you that would go along with that I
[00:43:55] was oh I was maybe 18 19 it was right before I enlisted now is 18 and I met
[00:44:02] a woman who you know strong in her faith and her beliefs and she
[00:44:07] believed in people having gifts and we were talking one day and it just
[00:44:10] came up and she goes you are one of the warriors she goes there will be a
[00:44:15] day where it is awakened and each of the warriors will have to fight
[00:44:19] spiritually mentally emotionally and physically she goes but you are all the
[00:44:26] warriors will be the people who help the people who will start wakening up
[00:44:30] with those emotions and those sensitivities so it was funny to see
[00:44:35] that she told me you are a soldier of God you just have not fully
[00:44:40] awoken yet oh my god that is so weird because oh the lady on the
[00:44:46] spiritual battle right now we are all spiritually fighting something whether
[00:44:51] it be our faith whether it be our own mind whether it be the devils of the
[00:44:57] world in the sense of the you know your whatever's coming I don't know how
[00:45:03] what you classify them as or whatever you want to call them everybody's
[00:45:08] battle and something it's just gonna hit a point where emotionally or
[00:45:12] mentally or spiritually or whatever word fits the best in that box is going
[00:45:18] to be what links everybody it's so funny you should say that because like
[00:45:23] when I was on that campfire on a discord last summer and being told oh
[00:45:28] you're you you were sleeper cells congratulations I'm here to tell you
[00:45:34] you are warriors for Christ and I went no no no I'm just a little mean
[00:45:41] she's like no that's why there's something about you and I'm still trying
[00:45:46] to wrap my head about him like there's nothing special about me why why and I
[00:45:50] think that's one reason why I have this podcast because we will you and I
[00:45:56] were friends on on elements we stopped to meet in person but we know
[00:46:02] something's up and I feel bad because it's like you want to say
[00:46:07] things to people but they'll look at me and I know the lot me away so it's
[00:46:11] like okay we'll just let it happen and then yeah I think you're right that
[00:46:14] were we're like yeah we knew this was here just hold my tequila okay so
[00:46:19] here's this group and here's this group yes they're not from this world
[00:46:24] but they're good those guys are bad we go and kill them okay good let's
[00:46:27] do this we're going I thought it was funny though is like when the eclipse
[00:46:32] was happening and they were telling people don't be surprised if you see
[00:46:35] demon faces and it's just like hello the yes I heard that too I'm like I was
[00:46:42] like you okay you're trying to scare the the common people that they don't
[00:46:46] realize is like yeah it's gonna happen and it's funny this this lady
[00:46:50] I've been telling you about she's saying she's actually seeing the veil
[00:46:54] break apart that where she lives it's coming out like broken spiderwebs and
[00:47:01] it has her very scared for the rest of the world and and I was just oh she
[00:47:06] can see this so again gonna go down I guess more of a spiritual route that
[00:47:11] you've seen the movie Legion right oh yeah with the angels who come down to
[00:47:18] the earth and the angels who embody people don't look like people
[00:47:22] anymore people think they look like oh which is funny because in in the
[00:47:27] Christian Catholic you know in the that those Bibles angels are not what
[00:47:33] angels are depicted depicted as people you know drawn angels have four wings
[00:47:40] or are a round sphere covered in eyes or multiple eyes multiple heads and I
[00:47:46] think the thing is is when people do encounter such beings or see them it's
[00:47:54] easy to address them as something nefarious versus understanding that that
[00:47:59] concept of that movie even though yes there were certain parts that were
[00:48:03] disturbing made sense in the fact that no angel no true angel is going
[00:48:09] to look cherub like yes exactly it's to be something of the throne something
[00:48:18] that would write it would be something that almost instills fear because
[00:48:22] something that strong would be on human yeah and trying to tell somebody no
[00:48:27] believe it or not that's a good guy you bow down to the good guy okay they're
[00:48:31] not yet they're not gonna look like little chubby cupids no you see a
[00:48:34] throne or fearsome of the cherubs yes yeah kill the cherubs kill the
[00:48:44] cherubs are the bad ones yeah I saw a front of like in our world in
[00:48:48] even with people most of the monsters are some of the most charming and
[00:48:54] attractive people you've ever seen now don't get me wrong over time they
[00:48:57] disfigure themselves but sometimes the most beautiful thing is one of the most
[00:49:04] dangerous things you can be in here yeah because and and because they're
[00:49:08] so cute everyone's like oh what a cute little thing it's like that move
[00:49:12] that scene from galaxy quest where you see that little exactly feeling and
[00:49:16] monkey people yeah and then you're like oh they're so cute then all sudden
[00:49:20] see those go pounds uh-huh exactly yeah I think that's probably why I've
[00:49:26] also been like into the paranormal because to me it's just say okay what
[00:49:31] is out there I want to know I don't want to be a skeptic I want to
[00:49:35] become a knower oh okay I'm gonna alright I remember telling you when I
[00:49:41] was driving home I'm gonna let the viewers know I was telling Jordan
[00:49:44] viewers or listeners excuse me that since I've been having a lot of insomnia
[00:49:51] and I'm watching the news and it's like whenever my utes is up something
[00:49:56] happens the very next day so channeling going okay I know I'm
[00:50:01] nature's supposed to be one of my new gifts and I've always had a thing
[00:50:07] with animals but it is definitely ramped up I thought stupidly I was like before
[00:50:12] I went to bed okay said my grace thanking Heavenly Father for
[00:50:16] everything else okay I wonder because the town I'm living in Sasquatch is
[00:50:21] their totem I thought I wonder if I could reach out and just say friend
[00:50:25] you know I don't want to be like carrying the Henderson's frame but
[00:50:28] knowing that I'm an ally with you I had the freakiest nightmare where it
[00:50:35] hit me what I finally remembered what it was Jordan in the dream I was in
[00:50:39] like a three-story shack and I'm walking around and I'm all by myself
[00:50:47] for some reason but I could tell there are other people around couldn't
[00:50:50] see him but I could hear them and all of a sudden there's a slam against
[00:50:54] the wall and I'm like oh my gosh it's an OMA and I start saying to
[00:50:59] it I'm friend I'm a friend and I don't know if this is it actually
[00:51:04] communicating to me now in my dream but it was it never said anything I had this
[00:51:10] very evil foreboding feeling where it's like okay whatever connected to me just
[00:51:18] it was like no back off and I was terrified because at one point it was
[00:51:23] I it put his face against the window I don't remember the face I just
[00:51:28] remember it crashed its arm in hand through the window kind of like the
[00:51:32] Boggy Creek scene and that's when I woke up and I don't know if you've seen
[00:51:37] that part of the the monster of Boggy Creek it's from the 70s really bad
[00:51:42] movie but there's a woman on the soap yeah it was funny but those of us
[00:51:51] like paranormal crap me and cryptids it was it comes through and but in
[00:51:57] this one it was very realistic that when I woke up I went oh my god did
[00:52:00] I just communicate and that's what I'm wanting what really bothered me was I
[00:52:05] think I might have but talking to some of the townspeople here when I first
[00:52:11] moved here and I saw the totem and they said oh yeah you just stay out of
[00:52:13] the way there they'll leave you alone I think I might have accidentally
[00:52:17] gotten a grumpy one I was like okay well there are certain ones you stay
[00:52:22] away from and I'm gonna tell you right now if you were a pair with
[00:52:25] nature and you go hiking and something tells you to not don't don't you listen
[00:52:32] to your gut and the other one is if you hear someone calling you while
[00:52:36] you're in the woods do not answer you are not whistle I know that one
[00:52:40] right yeah now in an area where cryptids are a very real thing growing
[00:52:45] up in the south growing up in the in the woods I have a you know Native
[00:52:52] and there are legends there are things that we do not name that are not talked
[00:53:00] about for a reason like you understand what they are and if as you go into
[00:53:05] your journey I would be more than happy to pair you with people if you
[00:53:08] want to hear about some of those cryptids because those are things yes
[00:53:11] please definitely you are I am seeing more and more activity in that area
[00:53:19] with other people and people who have never encountered it in their life
[00:53:22] before now than I have ever before here's another one I don't know if I
[00:53:27] told you or if I said on the air one time that before I was moving out
[00:53:32] here I did not realize that the town I'm in now I'm in the freaking
[00:53:35] middle like I can be near Hopkinsville LBL not far I will be
[00:53:41] days dry for Mount Pleasant and the lady that has been helping me with the
[00:53:49] gift she said she told me she said you are like a bloody antenna do not go
[00:53:56] near the second CERN because this there's that second CERN that's been
[00:54:00] built in it's in Oak Ridge and she said they will they will attach to you
[00:54:07] avoid it like the plague I'm like okay note to self avoid it just drive right
[00:54:11] past it something I have seen lately though since learning how to give
[00:54:16] myself a spiritual defense I've had to do it every day where I have to do
[00:54:21] full three layers of spiritual protection and at first I thought she
[00:54:26] told me to just do it and I didn't understand why at the job I'm at
[00:54:33] there's somebody there that I don't know what's with this person but he stays
[00:54:43] outside of my field and I'm like and I'm now starting to realize oh my god
[00:54:50] he can either see it or he can feel but he knows to stay away he he tries
[00:54:56] not to converse with me or make eye contact which I thought was real
[00:55:01] interesting and I'm like yeah and I just heard too that there that there
[00:55:07] is a lot of witchcraft out here and that they I've also been warned when
[00:55:14] you go in public make sure you are armored up especially right now so
[00:55:20] thank you for that yeah I would actually like to meet some of these
[00:55:23] people and I'm wondering now if that's why like you and I were talking
[00:55:28] about off the air why we're not wanting to go out a lot I just I would
[00:55:33] rather say I have some friends that I speak to occasionally who do I guess
[00:55:40] what you call witchy stuff not not my thing but they have even reached
[00:55:45] out and said hey I noticed this is going on have you experienced this
[00:55:50] this or this so it's interesting to see from different walks of life you
[00:55:56] know that you know you know I'm someone of faith and I was taught that my gifts
[00:56:01] aren't always a bad thing I mean I was raised being told one thing but then
[00:56:05] I've always heard from someone else even someone from the church that you
[00:56:08] know God gives us gifts and abilities to be able to help and to share and
[00:56:12] protect and sometimes we have to understand have to realize we don't
[00:56:17] have to understand why just know that it is there for a reason yeah yeah but
[00:56:26] I am at oh my gosh we're over an hour so should we call this an end yeah
[00:56:32] this episode I think that's great I appreciate you let me come on as a
[00:56:37] guest I'm my first yes thank you my friend yes no no it was wonderful
[00:56:44] conversation so to other listeners out there we're gonna end this episode but
[00:56:50] I'm hoping you sing or just one-on-one and having a friendly
[00:56:55] conversation but learning about each other's gifts and that we're not
[00:56:58] alone there's a gentleman I'm going to be reaching out to that he calls
[00:57:03] us puzzle pieces and I think it's a wonderful analogy that we're puzzle
[00:57:09] pieces that we need to find each other so we can see the whole picture
[00:57:12] and be prepared yeah scary to say it but it is what it is so to everybody out
[00:57:20] there you've got the information and as I like to say courage to start
[00:57:26] strength to endure resolve to finish and know that you are not alone
[00:57:30] until next time everybody bye bye Jordan thank you Jordan hi guys this
[00:57:37] is Lisa T enjoy the lovely sweet annoying sounds of the cicadas bye what
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