Matter of Facts: Prepping For Comfort

[00:00:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to Matter of Facts Podcast on the Prepper Broadcasting Network. We talked Prepping Guns, Politics, every week on iTunes, Deterons, Spotify. Go check out our content at mwfpodcast.com on Facebook or Instagram. You can support us via Patreon or by checking out our affiliate partners.

[00:00:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host Phil Rabbley and Drew Nickaron, The Airside of Mike and here you're shoved.

[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to Matter of Facts Podcast. Let's get some administrative work out of the way for those of you who are watching this on screen. This is pre-recorded. It's not live so if you're welcome to leave a comment but it's not that we're being jerksignoring you, we're not here right now when you're watching this.

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_02]: If on the other hand you are listening to this in audio podcast, then you're probably wondering what the hell I'm talking about because you don't listen to that anyway it's always pre-recorded.

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But you should consider jumping on our YouTube channel or a rumble channel of links to the show description. You can watch the two of us talk about this if you care enough too.

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_02]: So there was all that. But I have to thank the patrons for supporting this show. You'll make sure that this show does not eat a substantial portion of my whiskey and cigar budget which would be crippling to me emotionally and physically.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You'll support the show. You'll let us have some fun and for that we're eternally grateful.

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the first thing we can do is to make sure that the show is on the show description.

[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And I promised our merch provider I'd be better about wearing the shirts I'm actually wearing the

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Apocalypse Warlord shirt.

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Now Andrew has to run off and go grab one.

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I still need to send you my address so you can send me those.

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I think I have your address. You just need to tell me which shirt size is and what which one or two you want. And I can make those things add as an excellent question.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I will have to consult my wife for the shirt size.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, the merch is up on the store. It's fun and it's cheeky and it's things like which a pocklop to warlord do you want to be?

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_02]: It's the one you want to be at the nevelin one or do you want to be like a word of humongous? You know, the eye to a rock and roll.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And then we have shirts like Farrell but free with tactical raccoon.

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You're too tall. There you go.

[00:02:25] There you go.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Fantastic.

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_00]: The Farrell but free.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And then we have another one that's another tactical raccoon that I'll wear on the next time I record.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I choose violence. It's definitely a vibe.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great one.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Andrews since the tactical raccoon is kind of your idea how did that come up in the first place?

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, so when we were talking about merch, we were brainstorming with Gillian and she was coming up with stuff about.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Because we were coming up with stuff.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: So remember, you and I were talking about a bunch of ideas like what was it like the tactical clam and like all kinds of different ideas of like different things that just with nods and guns and rifles and best like what would look funny.

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And the raising values podcast has a shirt with a possum that I believe that's the one that says I'm always a delight.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it is.

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_00]: First of all, the delight.

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, first of all, I'm a delight. So we're talking about that and you mentioned something about hey, let's do a possum.

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, well, possum.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I really don't want to like do with that or you know, I want to like take away from raising values or anything.

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm where what she did.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, like I just like the tight that raccoon just popped in my head.

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, dude, raccoons are freaking cool.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Like trash pandas are amazing.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: First off.

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And just the ability that like just their skills in general of how they can figure stuff out and how smart they are.

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And then like, you know, what was it not is ratchet from.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's see if that popped up.

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right.

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I could.

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Bratchets.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Ratchets the game.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I ratchet the game character.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, rock it.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm like man, I said, like that would be like a cool freaking thing that like cool like, I don't know.

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, I went into Photoshop and Photoshop has really cool AI.

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And I just was like, I didn't like tactical raccoon and then like spit out a bunch of stuff.

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And I go tactical raccoon wearing plate carrier nods rifle.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I actually couldn't see rifle.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Photoshop would not allow me to put rifle in.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so yeah, so I put like, yeah, I just put a bunch of different things.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And it popped out like and it spit out a crap from the images.

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And I saved a bunch of them.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, so that's where like that's where these came from.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I think it was this one.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: There's one of them that if you look really close on the plate carrier.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I tried to get back with my Photoshop roots and basically Photoshop the MOL logo onto the plate carrier to make it kind of crunched up a little bit.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And it makes it make it look like it was like part of it.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you look really close, that's kind of in there.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: But no, it's AI.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I have one of my really good friends as named Chris.

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_00]: He's really big into AI uses utilizes the AI at his job and all kinds of stuff.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's got a bunch of the couple shirts in AI and stuff like that.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So I've been really, I mean, me and him have been really talking about how do you utilize it better day to day.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I like for disaster coffee for the raising values, I was kind of pumping stuff in for this.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I will every once in a while like I'll put something in like I'll put different parameters in and stuff.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so it's really interesting what the AI art will spit out.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's pretty cool. But yeah, that's where the task of the retooth Greg come came from.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I still want to something with a, I still want to do one with I can't get it to spit out the right image for a bump helmet and nods.

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It does not.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I did do like task gratitude where night vision all kinds of stuff and like it's spit out some gnarly freaking stuff like it was weird.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_00]: So I might have some Photoshop work and maybe take a picture like my bump helmet and nods and stuff like that and see what I can't Photoshop.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: But or you could always like capture neighborhood raccoon and train it to where a bump helmet nods.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, private with food at my work.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're not hard to bribe. Well, why I just don't like face scratch.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Jesus, that is the beginning of a whole set of really bad ideas.

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_02]: So topic of the show today is prepping for comfort which I'm struggling to remember how this came up who through this into our lab.

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_02]: But like it's something that like we have discussed along with the prep, the patrons quite a few times because like usually when people first get into this the idea of preparedness you know they're focused on minimums.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_02]: It's beans and rice and it's like what's the bare minimum because I have to get there as fast as possible.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And then once they get there, there's really kind of two avenues. One is I need to I need to do these things in a greater amount so I prepare for a longer period of time but still at that bare minimum sustainment kind of quality of life.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Or they start branching out into well, got these things, but these things would be cool to have to and then they start looking sideways at.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I can hold out for say three months arbitrary number, but I don't just want to severely survive for three months. I want to be comfortable. I want to have things that I want. I don't want to have to go through the apocalypse without coffee and cigars because that with sucked twice as bad you know that idea.

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I thought that would make an interesting topic to unpack and talk about like you know like what's feasible, what's not what's our personal go to prep for comfort.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, now I'll I will personally have to give a log credit to my wife for this because when I first started prepping it was pretty much just on me and then when she came into this world too.

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_02]: That's when she was like I love you dearly but you're dummy because you forgot this, this, this, this and this and I was like oh that's why my wife's more than I am in many ways.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It's good to have them around. They definitely make you think of things just a little bit different, but that difference can be massive.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean just you know yeah, your background is a soldier.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Comfort not really if it's comfort when you're doing soldier things right? So of course naturally your mind went to sustainability and survivability first makes a lot of fun.

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well and I think my mind and a lot of people was mine because like you know call what it is that there's a big venn diagram of preparedness where.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_02]: There's like preppers and then there's military and first responders.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_02]: So you're talking about a large group of people who are very used to austere environments and doing without and right like people who when that when there's an emergency whether it's.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_02]: The flood or tornado or hurricane or a blizzard they just know things are going to suck for a while and there's no way not to make them sucks you might as well just you know to borrow the old military and Harry phrase embrace the suck.

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_02]: But then when you start bringing civilians into this world which preparedness has become more and more mainstream over the years.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of us have spouses and kids and they don't appreciate all austerity the way some of us do.

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Then they start saying, but does it have to suck quite this bad and I feel like that's kind of where we wound up.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_01]: It's the difference in people between type one and type two fun if you're familiar with.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Jocca will explode cast. I am not type one fun are things you that are fun to do while you're doing them type two fun are things to look that are fun to look back on but that suck while you do them.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Most of my military experience.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, type two fun.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, so how do we conduct this? I mean.

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yo, which wanted to kind of get around around toss something and the hat talk about it or.

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. I mean, or we can just talk about what we've done over the years to just to make.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, prepping for comfort if you think about it, it falls in the same aspect of just camping.

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it can't be enough to make your camping experience a little bit.

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So you know, like what have you guys got what do you guys bought recently or what have you upgraded to or what of what things have you changed to make your your camping life, which then can translate to the prepping side of stuff like what did you guys change or upgrade like I said to or buy to make your make that life easier.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Or more comfortable. I mean, I can tell you that camping was I mean, like over the last two years, you know, we got the jackery we made the jump to a 12-volt for it and for anybody that's in the camping world or in the preparedness world a 12-volt refrigerator.

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_02]: God, it opens up so many freaking doors. I like it.

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_02]: It turns it turns camping out of the back of a truck into truly more glamorous than you feel like you deserve because like, you know, you're not fishing your food out of a bucket of pink water.

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_02]: It's not, you're not constantly worried about ice. You just open the lid and shut the lid and get your food out when you want it and you can.

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_02]: It makes things so much nicer but more recently up to this time like my wife and I and my daughter we've always slept on sleeping bags on sleeping mats on the floor and that was okay for me.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_02]: It's become less okay as I've crested 41 and I'm heading towards 42 to be honest.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_02]: But my wife is one that really put her foot down and said, hey, babe, like we're not getting good sleep laying on the floor. So she was the one that pushed us towards eventually getting caught.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And we sized those cuts perfectly in our six-man tent so that we can put one up against, you know, each one of the three walls that we're not does it doesn't have the door we're using.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And we have a big open area in the middle of the tent for you know, so you can stand to get dressed and those cuts have those cuts have changed the calculus as far as where we can set up the tent.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_02]: How much ground prep raps do because we don't have to make sure we have every little rock and every little stick out of the way, you know, we use a double floor covering.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_02]: So we use a tarp that's quartered on the ground and then a ground cover and then the tent.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_02]: So even if there's something on the floor it's not going to punch hole in the floor.

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_02]: But making the move to cuts has definitely improved quality of sleep and I cannot tell you that when you're sleeping in the middle of the woods without air conditioning anything you can do to make it make it get better sleep is a blessing.

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_02]: And the thing of it is that like an our normal emergency situation is usually hurricane so in that situation we're usually bugged in we have beds we can sleep in.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_02]: But as we learn during hurricane Ida, you know, I don't know if anybody's aware of this but those beds as mattresses they hold a lot of body heat.

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So if you're all if you have like one little window unit struggling to cool down the house or if you don't have air conditioning.

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Having caught that will not trap your body heat and will allow some breathability around you like that can be a huge help in keeping cool keep in come man.

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_01]: What's the serious upgrade to that even take a little box fan and blow that under all three of the cuts.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So even on a low setting it will fully down.

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_02]: So interestingly enough that same camper trip or the camper before we got the cuts we got a small I want to say it's like a nine or a 10 inch little battery power box fan with an LED light on it and that that has now become our ceiling fan so when we're in the tent we throw that up in the top of the gear loft.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And you can either blow air down or you can pull air up towards the vent but that's our air circulation and I did the power calculations on it on medium air it will run for eight and a half hours.

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah so I mean like when we're in the tent you know and the other thing it does is just white noise like for any fan sleepers out there.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's me and my wife like I can get to sleep listening to bugs chirping and it's fine but my wife really needs the white noise of a fan.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_02]: So with that thing I just you know click it on click it onto a leave a light on while we're getting ready and everything at night turn light off click the fan on medium and when the fan runs out in the morning it's time to wake up anyway.

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Well the other thing to it's how you can translate this into like the preparedness stuff is if you guys have to bug out for whatever reason the hurricane or something if you guys at leave area.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah you better throw the eye throw the cats into the truck because if you go to a hotel and it's first come first serve and if you get a hotel where you have one bed.

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_00]: It's okay.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to make my kid way why for myself sleep on the floor you know I don't really want to do that and when there's a bunch of other families around if they the I know the hotels usually have cats but you know they don't have hundreds of them.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: So having your own cot or you can throw it in the room and either you know get get one of the other people somebody up off the floor then that's you know that says a lot to that helps.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh absolutely.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_01]: One of the one of the big changes we made when we moved out to this house in fact well two big changes one we gained a natural fireplace.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_01]: A full mason's fireplace so there is off to my right here there's a big brick column that goes all the way up out of our house this is a fireplace on the other guys are familiar with the hazards called heat allators.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd never heard of it either essentially what it is is there's two vents on the left on either side of the chimney.

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: There's two on the floor to about half way up to the ceiling and that brick once it all heats up it starts naturally drawing air into the bottom vents bringing it up along the heated flu and out into the room.

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_01]: It will keep my entire house now this was absolutely not the coldest day but we had that ice storm last year knocked out power for about four days.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: We were able to keep our house at 74 degrees when it was 25 and windy outside with just that fireplace.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Now we also have a generator in the generator panels right over there that was another big upgrade that we did that allows us to have hot showers water from our well and if we want to we can have the boiler running that's also in this room here.

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a you know it's a big 220 10,000 gauge generator so it it eats some it eats a lot of fuel but you know I've it's one of the dual fuel ones and I'm looking at there's a there's an upgrade that you can put on it that'll make it a tri fuel.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But I'll have to get a bigger gas meter put on the outside of the house and so that's a little bit down the line but what it allows me to do is I built a little trailer in fact I should probably write up a little article on that trailer I built once I get the charger charger bank put on it.

[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Generators mounted on the trailer there's two 40 pound propane cylinders on it that's enough to run our house.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Basically an hour every four hours for like three weeks off those two cylinders.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's not bad and you know so you can just hook it up hook it up to the lawn more because.

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I had to pull that generator through a couple inches of snow that's suck.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's only a few hundred yards from my garage door hook up, but still icy slushy snow.

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_01]: It'd be a lot easier with the tractor now so.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Well you saw that was a couple of big upgrades we may also got to think too is when you if you if you have your fireplace that does that how much low not running the furnace that that takes off of your your generator.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's 60% right 60% of our total household load come would come from that boy right so the generator now runs running the well the fridge the furnace lights Wi-Fi.

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: All that runs at about like just over idle about 15 to 20% right that's what I'm saying is so like you not you're not having to worry about the furnace or the boiler.

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_00]: That right there makes it so that you can take hot showers because hot water I mean depend on if it's electric or gas and stuff like.

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a yeah it's a gas it's a gas so the only thing you're doing for the hot water heater is turning on an off the electronic valve for the gas and yeah but then yeah so I mean but what I'm saying is basically you.

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You having the load off of the the boiler like that allows you to actually run more things and actually be more efficient when it comes it does or it cuts our fuel consumption by like I said about 60% so now that's good.

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know it's it's pretty big one of the one of the really.

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Key things we were looking for when we moved out here and this is a little bit prepping for comfort too was we were buying a ranch house instead of a two story.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a bit of a luxury around here most of the houses built around here are two story houses that cost a bit more money per square foot to have a ranch house because for one there's more rough.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But we've been watching our grandparents kind of age lately my grandparents are mostly in their 80s my wife grandparents are a little bit younger than that but not much and.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Stairs are getting to be a problem for them my grandfather was recently hospitalized and because of a fall he's doing fantastic so no worries about that he'll be back home next week I think or yeah mid next week.

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_01]: But we wanted to have a house that if this was our forever house for whatever reason couldn't move didn't want to move.

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever we could age here.

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You know well into our 80s because getting into the houses two short steps that would be very easy to throw a ramp on.

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Just about everything we need is on one floor except for the laundry but that'd be easy to relocate the house has got a spare bedroom so we can put a spare bedroom actually functionally above my head.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You know put the laundry in the spare bedroom above my head I should say and without having to do major renovation work or move again to a smaller house.

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: We could care for this place long term even if one of us were to become injured or you know in firm in some way.

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Which yeah is that a little bit prepping to me it is to me it is because I'm going to probably get old bar and getting hit by a boss or you know some kind of heart attack or something.

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_02]: I can tell you from experience all it's gonna happen to you whether you wanted to or not.

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Right yeah I'm I'm 34 and you know before I lost a bunch of weight.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_01]: My knees hurt locking upstairs so you know I could see it coming down the road and I wanted to not be forced into it you know what I mean.

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah unfortunately my wife and I are I mean we could stay in this house if we reef so my put a gun door head but we just don't want to because like you know talk about before the show or not like.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You know we're in the suburbs and we desperately want to be further out in the country.

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And this house is like we could there's no functional reason why my wife and my wife and I and even my daughter she chose to stay with us you know for a couple years get herself established couldn't fit into this house.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh for sure the problem really is it's not what we want by killing I have some long-term plans to kind of have a house built from the ground up to our specs that would be.

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Potentially at home that we would never we'd never retreat from like if there's there be a hurricane bring it you know kind of situation.

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_02]: But this ain't it first of all it's in the middle it's in the middle of a tricity area.

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_02]: But I digress I was talking earlier about one of those hey dummy moments my wife dropped on me.

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_02]: So when she first got into not long after she got into the preparedness mindset and the subtitle under my name says the baker and this is this is pertinent.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_02]: So I do bake I learned a bake and I learned a cook from my mother when I was very young.

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's something that I've kind of passed along to my daughter taught her how to be a bake.

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And my wife point out me she was like hey babe if all hell breaks loose you and I both know that me and your daughter are going to want some morale boost or some point so you probably should put aside some baking supplies.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Now this is bearing a mind that like I already have in the in the go to pantry in the kitchen flower and sugar and chocolate chips and in the the other pantry is like baking powder.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I've already got all the stuff I need to wop up cookies or fudge or you know brownies or whatever pretty much spur of the moment.

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean if I don't have what I need to make what you want I can probably make something pretty close to it just because that's why we keep the kitchen stock.

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_02]: But then I went behind myself and put aside an entire five gallon bucket of nothing but baking supplies.

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing but baking supplies.

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Because again it's one of the situations where it's like in a two or three day we can't go to the grocery or kind of thing.

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_02]: We can tough it out for two or three days, but my wife was right like sooner or later the beans and the rice are going to get old and somebody is going to want a morale booster and that's when you have dad who can be.

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Who just needs the tools of this trade and then on my side of things I started making a much more concerted effort to bulk up on things like whiskey and cigars and coffee.

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I've got 15 pounds of green beans that back there on the shelf and I need to order more because I have to fill the nearby bucket pool of it.

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_02]: The point is like you know it just goes back to this idea that okay we've got enough root we've gotten of red beans and rice we're not going to starve for a very long time.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And while I can quite comfortable with what you might kill you.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I can quite comfortable eat red beans and rice almost forever.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean well pass the rapture if they if I end up not getting my ticket out of here on that train but yeah my wife might kill me in my sleep.

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_02]: If I try to feed a red beans a rice consistently for too long my daughter we get I don't know my daughter's wired like I am she'd get a little growl she eventually but I think my wife be the one that does me in first.

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And it lack of time yeah.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_02]: But that's another thing you know what we actually don't forgets we don't have.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I was not saying we don't have tortillas on him but we can make tortillas so it's hard.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You can make tortillas but what about bulk seasonings yeah.

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah good yeah because that's that's one thing that my wife brought up to me when we started when I started putting back larger quantities of food was having more than just the spice rack and again.

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of going on yeah because I cook a lot yeah home.

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and I mean do you think it would like this like if you need.

[00:26:38] [SPEAKER_02]: If you look at the proportion of things in most recipes you're talking about.

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Teaspoon's or table spoons of baking powder and seasonings and sugar to cups of flour.

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_02]: So you can kind of get an idea just looking at recipe book like what your proportions are like if you have a big old huge like 10 pound bag of flour.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_02]: You probably need a small extra can of baking powder or something just keep things balanced to help but I mean.

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_02]: It it all comes back to the idea that like we just we don't want to have to read you know beans and rice every day in the apocalypse if we can help it.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean you know if you guys have a Sam's club around you.

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Just just pulled one at random here.

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, taco seasoning 23 ounces of taco seasoning for seven bucks granted that's probably a ton of sodium and you could probably make it better for you.

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_01]: For less but you're going to go through I don't know a tablespoon maybe two or three to a pound of to a pound of meat.

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So you can get you can get quite far for a few bucks you know just you know even if you don't.

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Figure it for each individual meal.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_01]: You know just picking up your generic garlic salt, garlic powder, onion powder stuff like that.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And you what do you normally cook around your house and you fed me pretty much exclusively meat while we were there which was fantastic by the way.

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean I I swear by the uh, the trigger like I don't have a trigger but I swear by either the robes that they have.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_00]: So like there's a Saskatchewan rub which is like black pepper garlic.

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what's all in it but it's it's freaking amazing it goes great on everything.

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Looks like a pretty coarse season.

[00:28:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah but it goes everything like I have not.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I have I have yet to find something that doesn't taste good with that.

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I put it on fish I put it on fish I put it on chicken I mean I put it on turkey I everything I literally put on everything so I have that.

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And I actually need to buy a few more because I like to have one in my pantry one in my truck and then one on.

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And so I actually took the one out of my truck to make some stuff the other day so I need to actually buy another one but.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean I like to buy the like the salt and pepper and bulk obviously I go through pepper a lot faster than salt.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Just I'm not a big salt person in general but.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's crazy how much how fast I go through pepper versus salt so.

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so stuff like that I mean talk a season in I don't necessarily make tacos all that often or I mean from home.

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Right at home rather but yeah I mean it's definitely I could probably tacos every single day and they apocalypse as Phil could eat Red beans and rice probably.

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But right.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah I almost wonder if you could sort of reverse engineer that's a scratch one seasonings so that you could maybe go to.

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Whole drying ingredients so like dry peppercorns, whatever the peppers are that are in there hold dry peppers and just get a grinder to crush those up because I don't know how long that's a scratch one stuff last but I know that.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the the burger seasoning blend that I used to use it would get.

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, hardened mass if you left it all pre mix for two.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well that that's a thing is I mean this here I mean but honestly like I really I look at the humidity and stuff like what.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you might salt this is not that I because I have salt and pepper sitting on the back of my stove.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And the salt will kind of start sticking together and I just got I got shaken break it up.

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah once you bust it up it's fine again but I was just thinking for the for the.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_00]: So like the peppercorn yeah you I mean you could definitely crush peppers and yeah you could definitely we continue and and I mean even make something of your own depending on what I had because like that's.

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_00]: That's a thing I like about the Saskatchewan rub is it has a knife of a kick that.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I like and it but it doesn't like murder me because.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Hold on when it comes to any spicy and like hot whenever but.

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I mean you definitely I mean but that's basically a lot of stuff and I mean I like some Italian stuff so like I'll have some Italian seasoning sitting around Garland.

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Garland I like garlic salt on eggs is actually something that I've grown fond of.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just a little bit because it honestly the the or not garlic salt so I garlic pepper.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Just a little bit because if you had too much trust me I know if you had too much that the garlic and it definitely can be too garlicky by doing like the kind of a little bit of garlic pepper stuff like that so.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean those are pretty much the staples that I have in my pantry and then.

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_00]: The same thing kind of pretty much like in the back of my truck is the salt and pepper and the the rub and I think a garlic pepper stuff like that so.

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_01]: What about what about booze booze you know we all we all like we all like a beer we all like whiskey like do you do any of that home brewing no not yet I've really I've.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought about it but it's something that I just don't want to put the money into right now.

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I did have a friend of mine we did do a home brew years ago many many years ago and it was a lot of fun it was a lot of it was a lot of.

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Turn the heat up okay now sit and sit for half an hour and wait ask it to this time so okay we'll have a beer and that right okay let things cool down okay now sitting wait you know that like so that was and I would really like to get into I've been I've been really researching making homemade liquor.

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been really researching a lot of different.

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_00]: The kettles and I've been researching a lot of the things that I need at home to do it even on like a small really really small scale.

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean that's really interesting but again I don't I don't have the time and I don't really have the extra cash right now to get into it so.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_01]: What I got into for instead of humboring beer was making meat oh yeah because that's a that's a very set and forget process so part of what I do is I keep about five gallons of honey.

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_01]: All the time because in the winter me and my wife go through tea like mad just cold and flu season she works with young kids so she brings home everything film sure your wife does the same thing if the kids have it I'm going to have it eventually.

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So throat coat teas piles of that because there's nothing worse than just being miserable from a scratchy sore throat.

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But that honey dual purpose given a couple of weeks to a couple of months depending on what recipe you're doing you throw honey and water together if you got any other kinds of fruit throw that in.

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_01]: You can make yourself a pretty very good depending on the quality of your honey honey.

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Honey wine.

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_01]: You know and not to mention the medical uses for honey as far as like for wound care and the fact that it doesn't go bad ever.

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I think at one point there recovered some from tooth and comments to them that was still edible.

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean if you can store it in a desert tomb, you can probably store it in your basement or crawl space just you know find a local kid or a local guy that's got his own bees that harvest it and just tell them at the in the spring is like hey I want to five gallon bucket this summer.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be expensive.

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_01]: But you'll have it for unless you're growing me'd you will have it for a decade or more before you eat your way through it and when you get halfway done order and get another bucket from my think last time I bought it it was like.

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_01]: 200 and $40 for five gallons of honey that's a lot of honey.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I use five pounds of it to make a five gallon batch of meat ever to med and I would imagine buying it five pounds is not well I would also imagine buying it five gallons at a time you're probably.

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_02]: I would imagine you're getting a cost break someplace because they don't have to do yes much work.

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_01]: It's I think last the first time I did a batch of meat it was like a hundred and thirty dollars worth of honey buying the honey from jewel.

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And that was five pounds because I was buying the organic honey off the grocery store shelf so it was surprisingly expensive.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And then my mother and law put me in contact with this this kid over an allergen that's been making it go at being a B farmer.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_01]: On his own and having some pretty good success so I've been able to buy from him lately.

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, that last five gallon bucket I bought before we moved into this house four years ago is just about half empty.

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So I bought time to order another five gallons for them.

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's a good source of clean food grade buckets too once you want your empty that out wash it out a little bit and you're good to go to store whatever else.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I will I yeah I go through honey like because I do.

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, coffee.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Depending on how many cups of coffee I have it's a spoon of honey every single coffee.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_00]: No and even with tea, I started drinking a lot more tea too and I still mix a spoon of honey in it and yeah I've noticed I've noticed some allergies and I've noticed like some a couple things kind of clear up on it with me just by doing that over the over the summer.

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's it's becoming a habit to where I've.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_00]: So my girlfriend and I we've been looking at other animals to raise possible like chicken you know butcher chickens and all kinds of things she threw out there the idea of be so I've been actually getting into root doons and research on raising bees because.

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know I I have no intention to sell in it but if I can sustain my.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_00]: The honey with the with bees or whatever so I don't know I know there's a lot to it there's a ton to it so.

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Well at the very least too it gives you a little bit more contact with the natural world which can be massive for people's mental health.

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean there's nothing funnier than watching a bunch of chickens go about doing their chicken stuff and everybody seems to like it when they start doing it.

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I might not like clean it out the coop but they like watching the chickens.

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I've never seen chickens hump before but I saw them yesterday.

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going that out there.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_00]: There's learned something every the rooster and like you'll sit on top of a head and I was like what the heck and she goes.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You know that I go she and she she's like that's this is you know what happens I was like.

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what it looks like.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh like holy crap but no it's you know obviously because I've only seen chickens with eggs I never really seen roosters before we are you know in the mixed in so not interesting so yeah it.

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean prepping for comfort as far as my biggest purchase would be probably my truck bed my truck camper.

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't mind tent that I got for my truck.

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind tenting it I don't mind sleeping on the ground.

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_00]: But the idea and I mean in the truck the the the camper that I got or the tent that I got I'm back my truck.

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean it's not the most it's not like super like super comfortable you know whatever but I mean it's a size of a queen size bed so plenty of room.

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_00]: There are there is a mattress that I there is an air mattress that I do want to buy for it.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_00]: That it actually gives it a little bit more cushion.

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_00]: So I might do that but I mean for the most part I just like it because I like the idea of being up and off the ground.

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I also like the idea of just being in a hard more of a hard shelter than just a tent.

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_00]: This last or this last summer this summer when I went camping with a couple friends of mine.

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_00]: We were on the we are up in the upper peninsula camping on the side of the lake and it's like five in the morning a thunderstorm world through.

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And it was blowing hard enough to wear my truck was rocking and I looked out and I saw like there are tents and stuff and they're tents.

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean we're like I mean you could see the they held up great but you could definitely see that wind was pushing.

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's it's one of those things where I felt safe just because I mean I have it's a hard top.

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_00]: The tent is a hard top so and it's angled but if anything were to come down I mean could it close down on me.

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe but I mean that's pretty that's something terrible that would.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_01]: At least you have something more substantial than a tarp in between.

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah so yeah so that's basically that's my big.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Preparing for comfort or you know camping or whatever so it was the big purchase for that and then just like the this the way I've been trying to set my bed up is I'm trying to make it more comfortable.

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Faster just more just easier to set stuff up easier to cook stuff like that so.

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I will say there is something to that because like.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_02]: We're still tent camping on the ground because with my wife's ankle injury.

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_02]: There is a zero percent chance she's going to go up and down a ladder to get in that a bed at night that like that that's not that's not possible.

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_02]: But.

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean it takes us like once we back into a camping spot.

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_02]: We're probably half an hour out from having the camping camp site set up you know between unloading everything which.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_02]: The soft top is making that a little easier and I mean I guess I could throw that in this conversation like one of things we did was we put a soft top on the back of our truck to help out with camping with hauling gear and everything because.

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_02]: You know the thing about having a toilet come is that.

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_02]: To what to think that those little leave those little cute little rear leaf springs that are nice and comfortable when you're bump around the suburbs or the perfect thing to put on your truck.

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_02]: But when you put 700 pounds of shite in the back of it, it squats a whole bunch and it rides the bump stops.

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_02]: But I digress so when you if you put like a 200 pound fiberglass camper top on the bed or fire fiberglass shell on the back of your truck that truck starts to squat very quickly.

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And a soft top or is basically a convertible top for your truck bed so waste 35 pounds.

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_02]: But it allows me to and it's not 100% waterproof I talked to guys who have like sealed it down to the bed much better than what I do because I could still like build or move mine.

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's waterproof enough that you can put stuff in the bed of the truck and the worse you're going to get as a little bit of water is going to see it at the corners and then it will run along the bed, you know, in the in the low spot between the channels of your bed.

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but then all that is all that's doing is just okay so the water does that.

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, I'm not going to put a bag a duffel bag of clothes enclosed right on the bed.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll put a tote and then I'll put the clothes and I'll put whatever fabric I'll put on top of that like that just okay, that's all you got to do so that's not terrible but yeah, no it's.

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Making things a little bit easier for yourself as far as like loading on loading or whatever I mean it.

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_00]: To me, I mean that's one reason why I got the the tent for the truck was.

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Over the years of going to you know the years that we've been going to prep a camp and stuff like that it's like you see like Tommy having his on his Jeep.

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like watch this guys.

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It's funk I'm really good to sleep.

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I hear like all right well we're going to keep doing this and we're finally getting set up and okay holy crap I'm tired and let's finally sit down.

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Tommy rolls in frickin ding near dark and he just like do do do do do okay I'm done going to bed.

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of like I mean, and so some of it was kind of out of jealousy versus necessity kind of thing but at the same time taking that worry out of it knowing that I can because like going to prep a camp this year on by myself I'm driving myself so I'm looking at possibly.

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Leaving Wednesday drive halfway stay his name maybe stay at like a K away or something and and then drive the rest of the way.

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Like when we are for the Tennessee trip for the M.O.F. trip I did that same thing and I drove a lot I drove for about eight or I think 10 hours I think I drove.

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I pulled in pound a K away pulled in I was like frickin dead tired from driving it was nice to be able to pull in at dark.

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I set my I have those devoss the lanterns that I set up I set those up first thing and then I pop my tent and within five minutes like I mean it took me longer till I get my sleeping bag on folded and thrown in there than anything.

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, so like knowing that I can do that really quick like that is that's nice like that made things easier made it just takes a lot off of you so.

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean and obviously you know packing up and stuff and the downside is if you ever want to use your vehicle and you're by yourself you got to pack up and do that but with again Tennessee I every single day I packed my truck up and I drove my truck.

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And then at night I would do it and so that's the thing it's five it's like literally five minutes on packing and once you get it down it's like maybe five or so minutes packing it up and you're ready to go.

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean as long you've everything else somewhat situated or you know if you don't want to leave stuff you got to pack up the whole campsite but still it's just you know just that idea of you know like just do it really quick versus all right I got to turn my campsite down kind of thing or whatever so but yeah I mean that's I would say that's like well that's not.

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I was probably my biggest thing for prepping for comfort and then obviously the small things as far as a better water filter than you know I have the soiers which are nice but.

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_00]: A better water filter.

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean cooking supplies like just a nicer stove.

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You know things like that that just make it nicer that it makes it easier so.

[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah let me I think there's something to.

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to say organ is organ being more organized being a prep but I think there's something to like admitting like this is not a hundred percent necessary but it's going to make my life substantially easier.

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_02]: And you know let's call what it is when you're camping.

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah there's a lot of sitting around screw and off going on because that's just what camping sport but there's also a lot of work involved like every always used to my daughter I'm like when you're camping everything takes longer it takes longer to cook because you got to set everything up you got a ball water you got to do whatever.

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_02]: You know like everything takes longer so everything takes more effort so anything you can install to take effort out of the equation or make things just quicker simpler less setup less tear down.

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You can you can make a good justification for that because especially in emergency situation anything it says effort is a life safer.

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_02]: Because you're all ready you're already going to be at a deficit in those situations.

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_01]: If nothing else just a sleep.

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_01]: What about entertainment?

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You got a teenage girl fill.

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, how are you going to keep her from driving you up a wall?

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_02]: I am trying to figure that out because like you know when she was like during hurricane I had a couple years ago.

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_02]: The day after the hurricane that little girl walked out the front door was like, or not the front door we couldn't walk out the front door we had a tree in front of the front door.

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_02]: She walked out the back door was like, oh it's really windy can I fly my kite and we were both like yes go fly your kite so she went and got her dag and kite.

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And was flying that damn thing in front yard and my wife has a picture of her flying a kite in front of this huge tree that's down in our yard.

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So she was pretty easy but you know at this point like her substantial portion of her life revolves around herself own and Netflix and YouTube and that would get troublesome in a very quick hurry.

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Fortunately with Netflix.

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Fortunately how long will your jacquery power your home life by?

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_02]: If that network was still on us.

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly I wouldn't even attempt to power the home life by.

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_02]: The three of us are on unlimited cellular plan.

[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh so you just need to recharge yourself on suddenly.

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And because of all the time we spent camping I mean we got a jacquery 1000 back there on the shelf we've got a couple of you know portable power banks that we used to charge stuff.

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_02]: We've got the jacquery has solar options.

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean I don't think it'd be I know that during hurricane Ida you know the generator pretty well ran was focused on running the window unit and the fridge and the chess freezer.

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And we had a little bit of surplus power even after that so we were running thing we were doing things like you know unhook from one thing hook up to like the washer and dryer and wash clothes and stuff but.

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_02]: You know that's that's how we got through a lot of that and the jacquery.

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean honestly at the end is like I think by this second day or the third day once we got the jadda generator running we stopped putting the jacquery and solar panels out in front yard we just plugged it into the generator and we used it as the home power bank.

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_02]: To basically be like a really big USB you know USB charger and that's what because we we only had the three of us.

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_02]: But my wife's fam my wife some of our wife's family came in town help us deal with the problem so we had temporarily.

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_02]: We had two more adults and three more teenagers in the house.

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_02]: There was a lot of cell phones charge.

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah I mean enter entertainment is something like we've got like a couple dexaccharets we've got some board games and stuff like that when we've got things we could do but.

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_02]: We've got entertainment for a long term period of time would become problematic eventually.

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You know well yeah we've got board games we got card dexaccharets stuff like that this family gets very vicious around a game of uno.

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Like bites have broken out over it.

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you should look into some of the the tabletop games.

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big fan of D&D shadow dark.

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Call it a through the stuff like that story telling games.

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You know you you get the basic rules you got some character sheets heck you can put them in a in a sleeve and use water race or dryer race markers on them.

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Then they're infinitely reusable long tell the classic cracks but the reusable for quite a long time.

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean heck no book paper you can write down the important stuff about it and you can you can play and near endless series of games at least well until you're out of this.

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have the time to play anymore D&D was something that we weren't into to earn it but we have gotten into I have a level to war I have level to warrior and my daughter I think has a true which she's playing with.

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Nice so yeah that's perfect because that's that's a thing you do now that's a normal part of your daily life that you can continue with no external input other than time.

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_02]: What about the two of y'all what what do y'all do for entertainment that you could you could continue to do if something popped off.

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Well for me right behind me.

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So that that little lay there will actually be is capable of being powered by my generator so if.

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Playing around with that working on little projects on that.

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Board games D&D obviously big fan of that another tabletop role playing games our network is going to be soon on a battery backup so that won't kick off necessarily when the power goes off right away, but it is hooked up to the generator system.

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So the generator will be able to repower that power bank and therefore keep our ethernet up because we don't have cable TV.

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_01]: We do all all that stuff off streaming you know we've got a pretty extensive book and lot book library.

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Between my wife and I we both are bigger readers as well as a fairly extensive DVD collection from back when used to buy a bunch of those so.

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh you mean physical media how beautifully.

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah yeah physical media and then actually this computer next to me that I just put together to podcast down here.

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Is also going to be a home media server PC for us so there's going to be given all the spare hard drives I have about 12 terabytes of digitally stored media on there.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be able to stream anywhere in the house from this computer.

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Well I think currently right now I've got two and a half years where the television shows continuously played stored on it.

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_02]: What about you Andrew what are you going to do for fun.

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm harassed the neighbors.

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_00]: No honestly like I mean I might have a deck of cards somewhere.

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I think I've collected conflict in somewhere other than that I don't do board games I'm boring.

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_00]: My attention span with board games is very minimal.

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm the guy that will flip over monopoly because effort like 50 minutes because I'm just like this is bullshit.

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah same thing with D&D and all that stuff my attention span I can't do it.

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But I know I think back in college we had a D&D group and I think I met I think we met twice and then I was like I'm over it.

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not for everybody but yes I don't know I really I mean that's that's going to be the downfall where I'm going to have to figure out something.

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Being in the city it might be watching the chaos and the the drug needs and stuff because that's always fun to do as of now.

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_00]: TV can't spot a drug deal that's a fun game.

[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And or back when I first moved to Gran Rap it actually before I moved to Gran Rapids I came to visit my one uncle and him and I drove down division and we said spot the hooker.

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Inlay so basically that and the drug deals which is always interesting to see so but yeah no I mean but I mean I guess if crap hit the fan it would be I would like it be nice to be out in the country I grab an axe and go cut a tree down and mess around with that or something I don't know.

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But as your plans still to bust out there then right I'm not staying where I'm at.

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So make sense of your their entertainment package would be lighter I mean fill and I were more of staying where we are so we need a heavier entertainment package because you're going to be traveling on the road.

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I'm not going to have time you're not going to have downtime except for increment whether me yeah I mean yeah maybe I might if something were if they have weather related oh yeah obviously I'm not bugging up because weather related unless.

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Right no I mean like zero travel days if you're familiar with that term from backpacking yeah so.

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So put sort of out of food whatever you got it you gotta just stop sometimes yeah but if something I mean yeah anything other than that like you know.

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_00]: crap hits the fan whatever no I'm not staying here this town is there's too many drug use there's the methods with auto control here.

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And it neighbors especially like I've been picking out the neighbors that are drugs so it's definitely going to be interesting but yeah so it's it is what it is but yeah no I mean I mean.

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah let's the reality of life for a lot of people though I think and like.

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't pick your neighbor sometimes sometimes you have to pick the house you can afford yeah and that's what this was this one was obviously it's not my forever home but.

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But no I mean yeah for entertainment I mean I think I have a deck of cards and some other stuff and then I'm sure I'll find something else.

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Something else to do I mean as of the entertainment right now is trying to get my scorpion set up for.

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I think vision use and then basically yeah cleaning you know I know last time I lost power it was basically go through and just kind of clean some guns and.

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_00]: That's about it so.

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_01]: We need to do a night vision as so.

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You too do and I need to budget for night vision and then push over with the paper and take notes.

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I know I I replayed the previous night vision episode about five times I have a stack of notes.

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I know what guy that could not get you hooked up so.

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah right now we're we're in recovery mode from our most recent ownership joy.

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah yeah me yeah emergency funds are there for a reason but you must replenish them after they are more emergency use.

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah done don't go take care of you he just wants to you know commit philonia is to salt on your savings account that's all just yeah that's that's.

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_02]: That's everyone nowadays just you know put your savings account in nice little headlock and punch in the face seven or eight times it'll be right.

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You know actually I did reach out to them and I was talking to them back and forth about it and.

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_01]: It seemed to me that for my use case there's no 100% necessity to go with gentry or new or night vision.

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Do to where I am and the fact that I'm going to be using positive illumination on my weapons platform.

[00:57:02] [SPEAKER_01]: There's there's not really a great reason to go from two to three other than completely lights out no active illumination performance.

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Realistically like the only well the only alternative I would give you to that is.

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes you could probably get away with gentoo in those scenario but the resale for gentry will always be stronger so in other words oh yeah absolutely I don't know that now but that's the thing is I'm not worried about resale because there's two adults in the house if I do upgrade from gentry or gentoo to gentry or gentoo to gent for.

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_01]: A spare pair that is mounted on my spare helmet.

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That my wife could wear if need be.

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a downside to me.

[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_02]: No here you have that's just the only thing I ever point out when somebody went because gentoo is usable.

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_02]: But it's the only thing I ever point out somebody is I'm like like if I try to unload my previous 14 that Andrew sold me and by Andrew's own a mission it's a really really really high spec too.

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I may not get back every dollar I pay for it but I will get substantial money back for it not a problem.

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh for sure.

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You absolutely.

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Someone's going to look through it too and they're going to pay for it but when you the minute you start talking about gentoo the market the market just shrinks.

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Fewer people are going to want to buy it and you're going to get substantial less for it.

[00:58:27] [SPEAKER_02]: But then again that's why some people buy to what is because they hold their value for you know until 30000 miles and some people buy everything because they're like I don't care what it cause I don't care what I can get if I resell because I'm going to.

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Right it's like my pick up when the day I go to sell that pickup there will be two people interested.

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_01]: A 16 year old with no money and the scrap yard yeah that's that's going to be the only two that want that thing.

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But I and I envision night vision the same way like I if I'm buying it it's going to be I'm going to run it until either dies or I now need to operate because my skill set requires that upgraded tool right that one down per.

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_00]: The night business episode.

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean we could do that in four days I don't want to say what day it's going to be because the people listening to this and we will only need to make a decision my way then I'll we send this out for next Friday or for this Friday or this out for next Friday when next out of town which is why we're really recording this.

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll figure it out either way whatever works easier I mean if you get a busy day and you can't get all the editing done.

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_01]: The next on the next one where you're forward then send this one.

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we'll talk about it all or we just yeah exactly is no worries alright well I thought this was a worthwhile conversation because like it's like a lot of people especially people that first start out in preparedness like their their laser focused on bare minimums or laser focused on like beans and rice and there's a place for that.

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_02]: But kind of like Nick and I were talking about last week where we said you know once you get to a certain point you start you broaden your horizons out you start looking at.

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't just need the bare minimums I can flirt with night vision or I can start playing with this or I can get into this.

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like prepping for comfort is just one of those things that for a certain segment of is kind of false by the wayside because we're just so used to austere environments we don't count them as all steering more but.

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_02]: For a lot of us, you know we have girlfriends and wives and kids and none of them seem to tolerate you know eating bugs and sleeping in the dirt the way some of us do so.

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_02]: You call it prepping for comfort I call it keeping my spouse from slating my throat my sleep.

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that's just a security breath.

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a light look I'm I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna give you boys out there a pro a programmer tip.

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_02]: The only person on earth you should be scared of is the person you sleep next to because everybody else in honor has to get through through locked doors past security systems past dogs past all that stuff to get to you.

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And all your spouse or girlfriend has to is wake up at a bad mood and she's right there.

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And I tell that everybody all the time like my wife is the only person on earth I'm scared of because if she decides to end me I'll be awake upstairs and it's same Peter won't know how I got there.

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, huh?

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go ahead and punt this one out the door.

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Matterpacks podcast going out the door don't discount comfort because it will be comforting when all hell has broke loose talk to you on another week bye robotic bye.