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[00:00:03] Welcome back to the Matterfags Podcast on the Prepper Broadcasting Network.
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[00:00:17] I'm your host Phil Rabli and my co-host Andrew Bobo is on the other side of the
[00:00:20] mic and here's your show.
[00:00:22] Go.
[00:00:23] Let's hope I have a memory card in there.
[00:00:26] Oh Christ you're killing me.
[00:00:29] Let's get this going and we'll pray it goes well.
[00:00:32] I'm still panicking.
[00:01:01] I don't have mine on.
[00:01:38] So welcome back to the Matterfags Podcast.
[00:01:39] Apparently all three of us have been running around like chickens with our heads cut off.
[00:01:43] I don't realize how dirty my face was.
[00:01:46] I put him to work.
[00:01:47] So Andrew and Trek, or Trek and Andrew because you know the text doesn't match
[00:01:52] the order in which you are sitting but I'm not going to quibble, are on the
[00:01:55] other side of the mic.
[00:01:56] I've been personally losing my crap for about the last, I don't know, three or
[00:02:00] four minutes because right before we were supposed to go live the search protector
[00:02:05] on my desk that runs half this podcast gear all of a sudden died on me.
[00:02:09] So I was like hurry up grab that plug then in over here plug this in over
[00:02:12] here go grab a battery pack run the lights.
[00:02:15] Yeah.
[00:02:17] I hope this isn't indicative of how the show is going to go because I'm already
[00:02:20] not amused and given the subject matter I'm sure I'm going to get really
[00:02:24] aggravated before the end of it.
[00:02:26] Blood pressure monitor while you're doing the show that would be great.
[00:02:31] That would be kind of funny.
[00:02:33] I mean okay, Trek I literally like canned a video that is a blood pressure
[00:02:39] warning and Andrew can activate it right when he thinks I'm about to
[00:02:43] totally lose it.
[00:02:45] But he hasn't hit it yet he's waiting for just the right moment
[00:02:48] when this vein right here starts standing out and pulsing.
[00:02:52] So.
[00:02:54] But before we get to the topic like Trek how you been what's been going on
[00:02:57] or are you just being busy as hell?
[00:02:59] I know it's training season it seems like you're doing something every
[00:03:02] stinking weekend.
[00:03:03] Yeah, no things are good just got done teaching we had our you suck it's not
[00:03:08] the gun class and then of course our our Baofeng basics which you guys had
[00:03:11] Sam on so Sam just got teaching it done teaching his third and then this
[00:03:15] weekend we've got our alumni party which is the gel blaster Battle Royale
[00:03:19] barbecue swag swap that's happening up here in the shoot houses where we
[00:03:23] turn serious training shoot houses into just a bunch of adults drinking
[00:03:27] and playing with $50 gel blasters so it's going to be a lot of
[00:03:30] shenanigans.
[00:03:30] I'm looking forward to that but the amount of work is and has been helping
[00:03:33] out mowing mowing the shoot houses mowing the entire property getting
[00:03:37] that we just got the showers out of being winterized so we got hot
[00:03:41] showers in the property and everything else.
[00:03:43] So yeah, we're looking good but it's been a busy but no no things
[00:03:46] are good just as 45 years old couple days ago we've got a yoga mat
[00:03:51] in the ground my sciatic nerves been going crazy so I've been learning
[00:03:54] all sorts of new stretches just so I can actually walk around some of
[00:03:57] the things that came out of the blue but no things are good things are good
[00:04:00] it's great to have Andrew out the property we had some stakes last night
[00:04:03] now we get to talk about world events which we haven't done quite some time.
[00:04:06] Yeah yeah I want to preface the gel blaster battle with what is it
[00:04:12] $10,000 optics last year.
[00:04:14] We had malls and stuff yeah the $50 nerf blasters it was pretty good.
[00:04:18] Yeah it was $50 gel blasters with a $10,000 thermal malls on them.
[00:04:24] I had I don't know I had a $600 optic on mine there was EOTACs it was really
[00:04:29] and none of it did any good in the gel blaster fight it just it was style points.
[00:04:33] And then under nods that's even better under nods so and then you can't see
[00:04:36] what's coming at you so but no it's fun.
[00:04:38] So I think you'll just perfectly illustrate the fact that men never
[00:04:42] really grow up they just get more expensive toys as they grow.
[00:04:45] Yeah the mind stays the same the body just gets broken that's pretty much it.
[00:04:48] I keep telling my wife all the time when she rolls her eyes it's some
[00:04:52] incredibly juvenile thing I've done or said I'm like look I am stuck at 13
[00:04:56] either learn to embrace being a middle school teacher or suffer through it
[00:05:02] this is what you got.
[00:05:03] Funny thing is she is a middle school teacher but other than that like where
[00:05:14] do we even start with world events man because like oh my god it seems
[00:05:17] like this some this it seems like a couple years ago now every time it's
[00:05:22] an election season and it gets warm outside people get restless and things
[00:05:27] start getting squirrely and it kind of seems like we're heading back to that
[00:05:31] again.
[00:05:31] Yeah I've heard the term summer of love 2.0 is what's going on but no
[00:05:38] yeah summer love 2.0 is basically what's been going on so which is now
[00:05:43] it's the instead of BLM instead of the whole Black Lives Matter thing
[00:05:47] the new subject is Palestine and Gaza and those kind of that so basically same
[00:05:55] exact group of people different title is what it is.
[00:06:00] Same playbook different uniforms.
[00:06:02] Yeah pretty much.
[00:06:03] But incredible tents their tents are very uniformed.
[00:06:05] Yeah I did I did like though on the one campus they were doing
[00:06:08] psychological warfare with big huge speakers crying babies they had metal
[00:06:15] music playing like and they're you know so they're trying to break them which
[00:06:19] I think they actually end up doing but yeah no it's interesting and then you
[00:06:22] got these people that are going to like eighty thousand dollar these
[00:06:25] universities that are way out of like overpriced and then they're ripping
[00:06:29] up their diplomas like tell me how that is saying you know saying
[00:06:34] anything.
[00:06:35] I keep what every time I see this though I keep wondering like where
[00:06:37] are the parents because like I don't know like if I were insane enough to
[00:06:43] send my daughter who just turned 12 the other day by the way if I were insane
[00:06:47] enough to send her to one of these Ivy League universities where it's
[00:06:50] basically just a propaganda farm and it came to my attention that instead of
[00:06:54] being in class she was you know fighting with the police and doing
[00:06:58] silly silly crap on campus.
[00:07:01] A conversation would get had at the Rappley house and the end result
[00:07:04] would not be a pleasant one like somebody would give you getting
[00:07:06] pulled out of school because I'm not I'm not paying an astronomical
[00:07:09] amounts of money to send you to college to rip up your freaking diploma.
[00:07:13] This is not how this game is played and like when I see this kind of
[00:07:16] nonsense the first thought that goes from my mind is Mike where are
[00:07:20] y'alls parents because they cannot be that detached from these
[00:07:23] situations as to not be still in your lives and trying to give you
[00:07:26] guidance on this nonsense but then again maybe I'm just unique among
[00:07:31] parents and the fact that I am involved in my kid's life and
[00:07:33] everybody else is like they're 18 years old I pay their tuition
[00:07:36] they're on their own.
[00:07:37] I don't know how this works anymore I mean it's 2024 the world I grew up in
[00:07:41] blew up a while ago it seems like.
[00:07:44] Yeah I think one of the interesting things when you look at that
[00:07:48] and I'm going to butcher I'm not going to attempt to name those the
[00:07:51] 1980s video of the KGB defector that if you haven't seen the
[00:07:54] video he's being interviewed and he's outlining the plan the
[00:07:59] plan from how the United States is going to be defeated from the
[00:08:03] within from outside players and it's a very interesting video it's I
[00:08:07] believe 19 early 1980s and I cannot remember the name of the
[00:08:12] individual but the most interesting thing about it is one how that
[00:08:15] is definitely playing true and according to that interview we
[00:08:21] should see we should have seen the results of what we're seeing
[00:08:24] now probably another in the 1990s early 2000s and I actually had
[00:08:30] interesting conversation with another instructor that I had met for
[00:08:33] the first time and after the class was over we were just kind of
[00:08:36] jaw-jacking and we had talked about that video and he brought up
[00:08:39] a really interesting thing and he his theory was that yeah the
[00:08:43] according to that that plan we should have seen these results
[00:08:46] earlier and he said that 9-11 the rejuvenation of the American
[00:08:51] spirit that did bring every American together may have kind of
[00:08:55] put that on the back burner might have hit a pause button and so
[00:08:58] now what we're seeing is you know we haven't had that that
[00:09:01] unifying moment in a long time where we're definitely very
[00:09:04] divided and so that was a very interesting conversation and the
[00:09:06] other the other thing that really gets me about all this
[00:09:08] is a geopolitical expert I am not and I will certainly agree
[00:09:15] that what is going on over in Israel in the Middle East and
[00:09:19] the the atypical warfare that's going on right now it deserves
[00:09:25] a lot of very very in-depth very emotionally separated
[00:09:29] discussion the saddest part about regardless of what side of
[00:09:33] the aisle you are sitting on with these discussions is that
[00:09:36] there is no place for violence. There is no place for
[00:09:40] taking over property that is not yours. There is no place
[00:09:43] for using the English language with words that you know
[00:09:47] full well do not mean what you're labeling other people
[00:09:50] as ostracizing other people I mean reminiscing of the 1930s
[00:09:55] Germany with the Jews on our own American soil all of these
[00:09:59] things I'm willing to have a discussion and I nobody even
[00:10:03] needs to know what my take on that current situation is
[00:10:05] right now but I'll have a discussion. I want to have a
[00:10:07] fact driven discussion with people that can leave their
[00:10:11] emotions at the at the door and the facts at the table
[00:10:15] and that's what we're seeing right now is the scariest
[00:10:18] thing to me is that the free speech in the United
[00:10:21] States of America is willfully being destroyed by
[00:10:26] educational centers that are supposed to be the the
[00:10:31] bastions of where free speech is created and and we see the
[00:10:35] people that are being violently ousted from trying
[00:10:38] to speak or shout it down when they're trying to speak
[00:10:40] instead of okay listen to what they have to say and then
[00:10:43] hit them back with facts and if you can hit them with
[00:10:45] facts, that's how you want to debate but immediately
[00:10:48] what's happening is anyone that is getting violent that is
[00:10:51] shouting down to other people that is blocking traffic that
[00:10:53] is you know throwing fireworks in the crowds of law
[00:10:56] enforcement or even the people that agree with you. We
[00:10:59] don't want to be on your side. It's the same argument
[00:11:00] that I've had with the difference between
[00:11:02] responsibly armed citizens and gun owners is that a
[00:11:05] responsibly armed citizen lives and dies by the four
[00:11:08] rules responsible farms handling and then has that
[00:11:10] jack wagon at the range that's muzzling everybody
[00:11:12] that's ending their gun that's absolutely being a
[00:11:14] responsible. They're like yeah second amendment bro. We're
[00:11:16] in this together and it's like no no you're actually way
[00:11:18] over there and I don't want anything to do with you even
[00:11:20] though I know you're a gun owner and I respect your
[00:11:22] right to have that firearm but you should not. You
[00:11:25] should not. I don't need the government to say you
[00:11:27] shouldn't because the government shouldn't have the
[00:11:29] ability to do that but we need to and that's that's
[00:11:31] the biggest problem that I have right now is that it's
[00:11:33] even being tolerated. The discussion should be had
[00:11:36] their their viewpoints very well might be valid but
[00:11:40] let's have that discussion versus getting violent and
[00:11:43] destroying college campuses. Well, I was just gonna say
[00:11:46] like I think that I think that the parallel you just
[00:11:49] root track is very telling because like in the in the
[00:11:52] in the second amendment community, I can't say all I
[00:11:55] certainly won't say all but I would like to think most
[00:11:58] most of us are self policing like if you see your buddy
[00:12:02] on the range doing dumb stuff, most of us feel very
[00:12:05] inclined to go over and be like hey dude like please
[00:12:07] don't muzzle. Please don't turn your gun down and
[00:12:09] muzzle the entire range while you're doing that. You
[00:12:12] know we'll be polite but we're gonna issue
[00:12:13] corrections because it's a safety issue and because we
[00:12:17] naturally understand that we reflect upon each other. You
[00:12:21] know, it's the same reason why in the military if your
[00:12:23] buddy's doing dumb stuff, you go tighten him up
[00:12:26] because if not he makes all of you look stupid and
[00:12:29] usually makes all of you pay pay right along with him
[00:12:32] for whatever stupid thing he was doing that you
[00:12:33] didn't stop him from doing and yet in this situation I
[00:12:39] see a group that is like they are so tribal. They
[00:12:42] are so in lockstep. There's so little critical thinking
[00:12:44] and there's so little room for dissent they can't
[00:12:48] correct each other. They cannot self police because
[00:12:51] if they do you're cast out. You see what I'm saying?
[00:12:54] Like there's no room for nuance in their propaganda.
[00:12:58] There's no room for a person to like say I agree
[00:13:02] with you on this but I don't agree with you on this.
[00:13:04] Like it's the group of people we are talking about
[00:13:08] more closely resemble a religious group or a cult
[00:13:13] than they do a political social group.
[00:13:16] Right and that's why they're successful at where they're at.
[00:13:19] Yeah it's like going to church though. Like you
[00:13:21] can't say I agree with Genesis but revelations
[00:13:25] isn't my bag. You can't do that in church. You
[00:13:27] can't say I'm gonna drink the wine but I'm not gonna
[00:13:30] eat the bread. It's a religion. It's
[00:13:34] pursued that way and they police each other that way
[00:13:38] where to question the dogma and the doctrine
[00:13:42] is in and of itself heretical.
[00:13:47] I guess what concerns me is like I see it. I don't even know how
[00:13:51] begin to know how to deal with it because I have
[00:13:54] had to take people who fall into that who were once
[00:13:59] who I once had a relationship with and I've had to cut them off
[00:14:03] because they're being told that because we have the difference of
[00:14:07] opinion I'm a bad person and I can't I'm not willing to allow
[00:14:10] that toxicity into my life or my family's life
[00:14:13] but I don't even know other than just shortening up the apron strings. I
[00:14:17] don't know how to deal with that person anymore.
[00:14:19] I don't know if there's a way to save them because they're
[00:14:22] just it's like a cult. Well they're gonna get the reason these
[00:14:26] are happening on the college campuses because that is the
[00:14:28] that's the church right so you're not going to see that in rapid city
[00:14:32] South Dakota. The townsfolk would you know pitch
[00:14:35] forks and pick forks and torches and everything else and they would
[00:14:39] they would put an end to it and the you know the thing that gets me like
[00:14:42] you're talking about is it's getting the point of
[00:14:48] silliness not to them but to anybody else that's a critical thinker
[00:14:51] that can free flow from a left-leaning idea to a right-leaning
[00:14:54] idea based on facts. I loved I saw the complaint from one
[00:14:57] of these little little exclusion areas that there was a
[00:15:01] complaint because there's too many white people
[00:15:03] in the camp and it's like well I got news for you that's pretty much everybody
[00:15:07] that you know is taking time out of their
[00:15:10] not evidently busy college careers to put on a Middle
[00:15:14] Eastern scarf and act like they have anything
[00:15:16] of an idea of what's going on over in the geopolitical politics of Israel
[00:15:20] and Gaza but yeah it's and you know what
[00:15:23] what I like about you know turning a frown upside down with this whole
[00:15:27] scenario is you are starting to see ESG and
[00:15:30] DEI dying quickly I can't remember what was a
[00:15:35] Columbia University basically one of the one of the big
[00:15:37] one of the big college I don't think it was Columbia because they just I think
[00:15:39] they're too far gone but one of the colleges basically just said DEI
[00:15:42] program's completely done all that money is going into local law
[00:15:44] enforcement or the college law enforcement you've got CEOs of major
[00:15:49] companies that are saying congratulations you spent four
[00:15:53] years you tore up your diploma okay it was symbolic but
[00:15:56] you still graduated we're not hiring you I'm not hiring you it's
[00:15:59] like hey hand grenade yeah pull your pin and go sit in this
[00:16:02] cubicle and one day when somebody says the wrong pronoun you're going to
[00:16:05] lose your mind and then I've got to get all these people involved to deal
[00:16:07] with you know I'm going to take the person that
[00:16:10] can handle themselves emotionally and they're going to come on board and I
[00:16:12] so I think you know it's that pendulum is swinging but the reality
[00:16:15] is through this especially this year it's
[00:16:18] going to continue it's going to happen in very
[00:16:21] localized areas because those are the only places that will allow it
[00:16:24] to happen I am absolutely amazed that colleges have allowed themselves to
[00:16:28] have their own property taken over for this long the faculty
[00:16:33] from many of these places are showing that they're true colors that they are
[00:16:36] that indoctrination breeding ground you know because it's kiana reeves
[00:16:40] movies studies and lesbian counterculture you know degree
[00:16:44] or whatever the hell is going on the rest of the people that left and
[00:16:48] right that are critical thinkers are going
[00:16:50] okay this is the fringe this is this is the fringe but
[00:16:53] those people can have a conversation about Israel and Gaza and
[00:16:56] Palestinians and have good factual driven discussions and not get into this
[00:17:01] quagmire that is occupying of course the twitter sphere and
[00:17:05] and you know local news but yeah it's a
[00:17:08] it's very telling it's very telling and then the big thing I think Andrew
[00:17:11] and I were talking about last night over steaks the thing that really gets
[00:17:14] me is these kids will and there's some of the kids like
[00:17:18] I don't even know why I'm protesting they just told me to show up they
[00:17:20] just told me to show up don't even know
[00:17:21] what's going on uh you know the queers for palestine
[00:17:25] okay congratulations that's great you can love whoever you want to love
[00:17:29] they would throw you off a building they would throw you off a building and
[00:17:32] kill you or stone you if you were to go over there so
[00:17:35] maybe pick your pick your friends a little bit better
[00:17:37] um but the big one is you're seeing this
[00:17:41] beta this beta male and female environment and one of the biggest
[00:17:47] things that I'm just laughing at are the
[00:17:49] everyone's got their iphone out and they are holding it up like they're
[00:17:52] taking a selfie and they're bouncing into each other
[00:17:55] like bumper cars trying to say you assaulted me no you didn't
[00:17:58] that's like when we were little kids like you hit me no you didn't you hit
[00:18:01] me no you didn't it's like I'm not touching you we're not seeing
[00:18:04] the alphas they're like hey I'm trying to get to that hall
[00:18:07] right there no you can't well I'm telling you right now I'm going there
[00:18:10] and if you get in my way you're gonna get an alpha reaction but
[00:18:13] what we're seeing it's an incredible environment of
[00:18:16] let's just bounce into each other and then call the police of course the
[00:18:19] police that we're trying to defund these things don't happen like
[00:18:22] I said Rapid City South Dakota go to a cowboy
[00:18:25] who's trying to get into the bar and say no here's my cause x y and z and
[00:18:29] you can't come through here that cowboy is going to look at you
[00:18:32] he's going to switch the toothpick from one side of his mouth to the
[00:18:34] other side of his mouth he's going to say some real old-timey
[00:18:37] cool one-liner and if you don't get out of his way
[00:18:40] he's going to beat you half to death and the town folk are going to go
[00:18:43] yeah you really shouldn't have done that and the police are going to show
[00:18:46] up and said yeah you shouldn't have done that
[00:18:48] and that's justice that is the way the most places work it's not that
[00:18:52] the cowboy wanted to assault somebody you can't stop somebody from going into
[00:18:55] where they're lawfully allowed to go but
[00:18:57] this is that silliness that's happening on these college campuses where
[00:19:01] in I as a former law enforcement officer we've gotten to a point and I
[00:19:05] made a post on our twitter account probably late at night probably had a
[00:19:08] couple gin and tonics because it got to the service and I basically said
[00:19:12] cops I used to be one of you I'm not anymore
[00:19:16] thank you for what you guys are doing but if you exist
[00:19:19] at Columbia University in New York City in Baltimore in Denver Colorado there are
[00:19:25] lots of great organizations out there law enforcement and other
[00:19:28] that will hire you because of your work ethic and your
[00:19:32] your ethos and everything it's time to give them your badge
[00:19:36] keep your gun and go elsewhere and what we need to do
[00:19:40] I get it you got food that you need to put on the kids table
[00:19:44] clothes on their back gas in the car we're at a point where the serious
[00:19:47] people that are wrapped up in those environments need to say
[00:19:52] not my circus not my monkeys this is all you and sit back get some marshmallows
[00:19:56] in a lawn chair and just watch it all burn down but the problem is there are
[00:19:59] very good people that are they're holding on like there's some sort of
[00:20:02] recovery well that plane is in a nosedive the wings have ripped off
[00:20:05] and the only thing that is going to stop it is reality which in the
[00:20:09] sake of my analogy is the ground at 400 miles an hour and reality is
[00:20:14] eventually going to kick in and it's going to be ugly and you
[00:20:17] don't want to be anywhere near there because you're I come to work on time
[00:20:21] I obey the laws I do my job exactly as the SOPs dictate those environments
[00:20:26] do not exist in what we call that reasonableness and I talk about that
[00:20:30] all the time in use of force reasonableness is based on the jury of
[00:20:34] our peers and lawful does not always mean reasonable and that's usually in
[00:20:37] a good sense like guy goes for a cell phone in his pocket after being
[00:20:41] told to put his hands in the air it's dark he's wanted for a
[00:20:43] possibly violent crime he goes for that cell phone he gets shot
[00:20:47] it's not legal you can't shoot a guy for a cell phone but it's reasonable the use
[00:20:49] of deadly force reasonable that only works when you can show a jury of your
[00:20:54] your peers and they say okay close your eyes put yourself in a cop's
[00:20:57] uniform it's 11 o'clock at night guy just beat his wife half to death he
[00:21:01] then makes a fast movement to his pocket
[00:21:03] well if the entire jury goes well guns are evil
[00:21:06] you shouldn't have those what color what skin color was it you can't shoot
[00:21:10] those people of certain skin colors no matter what they do it's not
[00:21:13] reasonable anymore and so those cops are literally
[00:21:15] they're doing their job to the best of their ability and not just cops anybody
[00:21:18] the the maintenance people you're existing in a world where if
[00:21:22] you defend yourselves now where 10 years ago everyone would be like
[00:21:26] yeah of course you defended yourself you are living in a world where
[00:21:29] reasonable has been completely flipped upside down like ed calderon would say
[00:21:33] the upside down right and stranger things
[00:21:35] and you can do everything i'm not a i'm not a religious guy but the
[00:21:39] christian values do on to others you could do everything right
[00:21:43] and you could have the book thrown at you and we're seeing that new york city i
[00:21:47] don't want to do on a too far on a tangent
[00:21:49] but uh dexter uh tyler dexter or dexter tyler
[00:21:53] the the guy that just built the guns as he allowed to do as an american
[00:21:55] the judge literally said don't bring the second amendment
[00:21:58] into my courtroom that is the upside down
[00:22:01] that should be an immediate disbarment in my opinion that should
[00:22:04] be an immediate prison sentence for any judge that says
[00:22:07] constitutional law is not welcome my courtroom but
[00:22:09] that is their definition of reasonable he will probably especially with that
[00:22:13] statement on the record he's probably going to after many
[00:22:17] hundreds of thousands of dollars and years off his life he's gonna walk out
[00:22:20] scathed but okay well there's a lot of people that they just haven't been
[00:22:24] putting cuffs yet and they're doing everything right
[00:22:26] but it's not right according to the mob and that's that's the thing
[00:22:30] that i see going on right now that's a big problem and what sucks is that
[00:22:33] guy he's gonna get thrown in jail thrown
[00:22:35] to prison oh it is 10 years he just got
[00:22:37] sentenced yeah but that's the thing that sucks is he's
[00:22:39] gonna get that sentence he can appeal it
[00:22:41] from jail from prison and he can appeal all he wants and while he's sitting in
[00:22:47] jail on this unconstitutional order from this judge that's where he's got
[00:22:52] to fight his appeal from and all the gang bangers with their
[00:22:54] glock switches from wish.com we're burning through innocent people
[00:22:57] and then no cash bail yeah no cash bail you're out the next day but
[00:23:01] this guy didn't hurt anybody exercised his rights as protected on
[00:23:05] the constitution but this these are small case studies
[00:23:08] in there are no you know you talk about france and germany they have what's
[00:23:12] called a no-go zone or even police do not go if you are not of a
[00:23:15] certain appearance or ethnicity you do not go to these places because the
[00:23:20] law is unchecked as it's supposed to be
[00:23:22] we now have no-go zones easily in the united states
[00:23:26] there's some i think there's actually one in detroit well i'm just
[00:23:28] referring i mean just by our definition there are places that i
[00:23:30] will like hey we're going to you have been campus i'd be like
[00:23:33] why yeah like what what on earth has caused you to want to possibly do
[00:23:36] that to yourself and your family and your level
[00:23:39] so going off for the whole with police and stuff andrew
[00:23:42] go ahead what did i tell you andrew when you came to
[00:23:45] came to visit me a couple years ago and you said you wanted to go to new
[00:23:48] orleans yeah i said tell trek tell trek well no i said i wanted to go to
[00:23:51] new orleans just i wanted to see it just hey let's just drive through
[00:23:55] and phil goes did you bring your gun and i said no he goes did you
[00:23:58] bring a plate carrier i said no he's like then we're not going then we're
[00:24:00] not going i was half joking about the plate
[00:24:02] carrier but but what i really but what i
[00:24:05] literally told andrew was if you want to go and you just want to like walk to the
[00:24:10] french quarters you could say you went to canal street
[00:24:12] there are rules we're not leaving canal street we're both packing
[00:24:16] we're not walking in and i will loan you a freaking gun for this
[00:24:19] as long as you have your permit it has reciprocity in louisiana not new
[00:24:23] orleans but that's another discussion and i literally told him i'm
[00:24:26] like we're gonna walk down bourbon we're gonna walk down canal street or
[00:24:29] bourbon street we're gonna walk back to our cars we're gonna leave
[00:24:31] that's fine we're not going into bars we're not going into places we're
[00:24:34] not going to have fun our heads are on the swivel because i'm like you just you
[00:24:37] need to understand that it's not like new orleans is the wild west
[00:24:41] comma however if you get two blocks outside of the areas where the
[00:24:46] tourists are you can get rolled because they know
[00:24:49] you don't live in that neighborhood and when the cops show up four hours
[00:24:54] later if no one got killed or shot they'll tell you you shouldn't be
[00:24:59] here oh yeah this place is in detroit you
[00:25:01] for stopping at stop signs because they want to know why did you stop like you
[00:25:05] don't they've told i know people students
[00:25:08] mind like we don't you don't stop here just roll um well i mean so going off
[00:25:13] of the like the the police stuff um so you know we had summer love 1.0
[00:25:19] with the whole blm riots and stuff like that we are still seeing
[00:25:23] mostly peaceful more yeah that is true mostly peaceful
[00:25:27] we are still seeing shortages around the united states of cops
[00:25:31] departments are still under massive shortages from that whole fallout
[00:25:36] from cops leaving in droves um from because of what's going on
[00:25:40] what's going to be interesting is this year it's going to be interesting
[00:25:42] to see what that fallout is so we have all these departments with
[00:25:47] a lower amount of cops now we have a new mostly peaceful summer coming up
[00:25:54] with a lower law enforcement number than we did the last election and so that's
[00:26:00] what i'm waiting to see is what the fallout is from that
[00:26:03] so i just say hold on your butts yeah i mean if you're in a big city you're
[00:26:07] screwed yeah um what the the the cops have been
[00:26:10] poached from all the small they like all the small good communities were
[00:26:14] actually the rule of law like that's where that's where people are
[00:26:17] our law enforcement have gone to you know indiana has taken a lot
[00:26:21] of law enforcement they're putting big bonuses out there i just saw wyoming was
[00:26:24] basically saying hey you want to work in a place where law and order is
[00:26:27] actually upheld i mean that's there's giant billboards
[00:26:29] and they're putting those up in uh blue states and blue cities i mean
[00:26:32] that's if you're in those places you know like here's a great
[00:26:37] wyoming don't mess around montana maybe maybe there's one place in
[00:26:40] montana the big city you know you the capital you could probably
[00:26:43] mess around but you know not you're not going to get away
[00:26:47] with any of those shenanigans but we know
[00:26:49] detroit uh baltimore denver philadelphia basically all the places that are kind
[00:26:55] of the same usual suspects every single time
[00:26:58] but what we're also seeing is a mass exodus of
[00:27:01] people that are fed up with it and and they're trying to flee but of course
[00:27:05] with inflation and housing market and everything
[00:27:07] it's that's pretty yeah it's pretty difficult so
[00:27:10] yeah hold on your butts is right um but if you're you can kind of know
[00:27:14] where you live if it's how much you got to hold on your butt
[00:27:17] some of us will be watching it high def on tv others will be like
[00:27:20] man this stereo surround sound sure does sound good
[00:27:23] hey tv's not on oh crap close the windows like that's
[00:27:27] yeah some people are in for it yeah it's gonna be interesting
[00:27:30] yeah but i mean almost more than that like
[00:27:34] i think the situation we're heading towards though is like
[00:27:38] is in some ways like the most dangerous one it's the transitionary
[00:27:41] period because i might have made some
[00:27:44] comments you know during during the times of the
[00:27:48] the mystery flu about how if ever there was a moment i could have been
[00:27:52] swayed to defund police that would have been it because i was like okay we
[00:27:55] have police participating itself they're
[00:27:57] not supposed to be participating in they're enforcing things that they
[00:28:00] shouldn't be enforcing i'm kind of okay with those cops not
[00:28:03] being not having jobs anymore because you know they were misbehaving
[00:28:08] in my opinion but i digress but if we were in a
[00:28:12] situation where there was like there's no rule of law there's no
[00:28:15] police none it's all gone then people like the three of us are
[00:28:20] going to do what we have to do to protect our families
[00:28:23] you know what i'm saying if it involves plate carriers and ar-15s so be it
[00:28:27] involves handguns so be it we're gonna do we have to protect our
[00:28:30] families and if there's enough law enforcement
[00:28:34] that law and order can be maintained we usually don't have to pull the ar-15s
[00:28:38] and the plate carriers out of the closet to maintain that
[00:28:41] but in this weird transitionary period where law enforcement levels are falling
[00:28:44] and their ability to maintain order is dropping or even their willingness to
[00:28:48] try because of the silliness going on around us
[00:28:52] we're in a situation where criminals might be emboldened
[00:28:55] because law enforcement cannot respond or will not respond
[00:28:59] and yet there's just enough law you know appearance of law and order
[00:29:02] that if you smoke somebody you might have to go stand in front of
[00:29:05] the judge and explain yourself like this is the worst version of
[00:29:09] the situation we could be in where you could burn somebody down because
[00:29:13] you call 911 15 minutes later a cop never showed up you had to do what you
[00:29:16] had to do to protect your family but the cop shows up just in time to go
[00:29:19] bring your butt to jail because you shot somebody you see where i'm going
[00:29:22] with this sure sure yeah it was it's very interesting i
[00:29:25] cannot remember who i was talking to and i want to give them full credit
[00:29:28] and it very well could have been one of the two of you and one of the
[00:29:30] discussions that we had but i've been really pondering
[00:29:33] for the longest time we've always you always hear about situations like
[00:29:37] what we're in right now and i'm i am a firm believer this is going to be a year
[00:29:42] the closer we get to november yeah the craziest it's going to get i'm not
[00:29:46] going to get political but here's the deal
[00:29:47] either way the election goes with right now are you know i really enjoy
[00:29:51] listening rfk he is does not does not have my vote
[00:29:54] there's some issues that i just cannot get behind but you know what
[00:29:57] i have listened him on jill rogan i've really enjoyed his discussion
[00:30:00] once again fact driven on vaccine vaccine safety
[00:30:04] um but we're already seeing they're they're doing everything they can to
[00:30:07] make sure he cannot be on the stage which is completely wrong the dude
[00:30:10] should have every right to get up there
[00:30:11] and try to uh get whatever vote that he can he's done the he's done the
[00:30:14] work so we know it's going to come down to two people
[00:30:17] either way either way it ain't good because half of the country essentially
[00:30:23] is not going to be okay with the guy that wins so there's going
[00:30:27] to be problems now the results of that
[00:30:30] results of that are going to then dictate where the problems are at
[00:30:34] the geographical location so it was very interesting where i'm going with this
[00:30:37] was for the longest time when you didn't talk about
[00:30:39] self-defense or preparations and being a prepper
[00:30:42] uh just being responsibly american right
[00:30:45] you always hear about the spark everyone's worried about the spark
[00:30:48] the spark that could start start something big and i cannot remember
[00:30:52] who it was it was one of the best things i said it was like no
[00:30:56] i play with my flamethrower out here after the rain
[00:30:59] because i can spray diesel and gasoline all over green grass and yeah
[00:31:03] i may kill the grass but that spark in fact that big old ball of
[00:31:07] flame isn't going to start a forest fire but give it to loggus here in
[00:31:12] michigan where it's been dry for two weeks
[00:31:14] i'm not going out there and playing with my flamethrower because i
[00:31:16] understand the conditions are now set for a raging forest fire
[00:31:20] and that was what this individual said was it's not about the spark it's
[00:31:23] about conditions that cause fire and allow
[00:31:26] a fire that would have gone out on a wet day to burn and rage and right
[00:31:30] now the problem is we have had the conditions being set for the past
[00:31:33] three years longer than that since the 1980s kgb
[00:31:38] yeah in fact i mean for for decades now the conditions have been set
[00:31:43] where wildfire is absolutely a capability and so
[00:31:47] that's that to me is in the the the front of my mind now as we go
[00:31:53] through the normal life i go and i teach and i do my adult things and
[00:31:56] pay my bills but i think i've joked you quite a few times i'm like
[00:32:00] yeah i got bills i gotta pay next year but i'm not sure if the country's gonna
[00:32:03] be around or if they're really gonna be worrying about my mortgage payment and
[00:32:06] i'm right i'm joking when i say it but at the same time i'm kind of like
[00:32:09] yeah right now of all the times i might buy something on credit because
[00:32:12] there might not be a creditor yeah in two years or a system that was
[00:32:16] the same way that it was now because things are getting so stupid and and
[00:32:21] only a blind person and even a blind person with their
[00:32:24] enhanced senses of everywhere else would go yeah things are getting
[00:32:26] crazy i don't need to watch it on tv i can
[00:32:28] feel in the air and i can yeah you know i can smell it
[00:32:32] in the air you have to be someone that is so aloof
[00:32:35] that's the best word you have to be someone that is so aloof with your
[00:32:38] head in the sand to not see that if you are believing that a system
[00:32:44] is going to be there to protect you for that 10 minutes to half an hour
[00:32:48] to four hour response time you are out of your mind and more likely
[00:32:51] if it's truly a big problem it's not going to be hours it's going to
[00:32:54] be days it's going to be weeks what was it pittsburgh was it
[00:32:58] pittsburgh were they were saying yeah no no responses from a certain time to a
[00:33:01] certain time yeah that's insane especially into the summer like that
[00:33:05] that's crazy to me to think about that
[00:33:07] um what's crazier to me is that people then
[00:33:11] stay there yeah you stay there because if i wanted to be
[00:33:15] free if i wanted to and i like that about where i live
[00:33:19] i have lake county sheriff's office but my personal belief is
[00:33:22] i'm only want them there when the yellow tape needs to go up because
[00:33:25] they're probably going to kill me if they show up in the middle of the
[00:33:27] night because i know it's a small town sheriff's office
[00:33:29] i already i know a little bit about the training or the lack of training that
[00:33:32] they get they're not going to be the ones that i call when something's going
[00:33:35] on right so if i want to live that life and i'm okay with that of
[00:33:38] everything is my responsibility i'm going to live on 13 acres in the
[00:33:40] middle of the woods these people that are in philadelphia
[00:33:43] that get that news it's like oh by the way you're on your own
[00:33:47] and you're packed in like sardines with lots of other people that have
[00:33:50] the collective iq i'm not insulting anybody
[00:33:53] whoops those people that now have been announced by the government
[00:33:57] right now a government has the capability
[00:34:01] a government of the people to to fill the gaps in
[00:34:04] the that that law and order the so that natural law does not need to be
[00:34:08] the rule of the day but now they've said hey you're
[00:34:11] packed into the city like sardines collectively all of you not
[00:34:15] individually not saying you're all individually stupid but
[00:34:17] collectively human beings have the iq of a stick of celery by the way
[00:34:21] from these hours if something goes bang really loud and
[00:34:24] you're all going to lose your minds make good life choices i don't know by
[00:34:28] the way you got your family so just stick around and find out
[00:34:31] what's gonna happen like that should be a
[00:34:32] that that to me if i lived in that spot i would then buy that piece of
[00:34:37] vacant land and do the pioneer thing because
[00:34:40] getting mauled by a bear slip tripping and falling stabbing myself
[00:34:43] with a rusty nail those are far better options than
[00:34:47] being in the middle of philadelphia when the balloon goes up
[00:34:51] like ain't nobody making it out alive except for the cannibals
[00:34:55] which is now evidently coming back into yeah into popularity right so yeah
[00:34:59] it's it's a um i really i truly believe that uh
[00:35:04] this year for all preppers all responsibly armed
[00:35:07] americans all responsible americans are critical thinking americans
[00:35:10] if you have not started making at least
[00:35:14] intellectual plans you are very wrong because what i hope is that november
[00:35:20] 6 rolls around and you're like yeah there's some
[00:35:22] pissed off people but well back to back to work as usual
[00:35:26] yeah i think i am my over under on that is
[00:35:30] not good not good right now and nothing
[00:35:33] especially from the the present office of the president on down is giving me
[00:35:37] any confidence that they have any clue of what is
[00:35:40] going on or they know full well what's going on
[00:35:42] and they are just all about letting it continue
[00:35:45] so yeah it's it's uh you know this does not reflect the views of mdfilc
[00:35:50] but this is mine and so yeah i'm definitely november 5th comes around
[00:35:53] i'm gonna be dug in like a tick uh here at at trexaco and i'll be
[00:35:57] eagerly hoping for best case news but i just don't think this country
[00:36:03] right now um is green enough to not let a spark catch it's yeah that's
[00:36:08] we're we're so close it's a tinderbox i mean the the smallest
[00:36:11] thing now sets off a group of people that then burn a city down
[00:36:15] like which would happen in 2020 right yeah it was so
[00:36:18] so we're so and then with that we've had
[00:36:22] four years of just constant um pushing and just constant uh basically
[00:36:28] the government constantly going one way and uh feeling the
[00:36:33] fire basically but you know it's they're they're
[00:36:35] doing uh it's kind of like california and their whole
[00:36:38] wildfire issue like they've been doing a lot of forest uh
[00:36:42] you know they've been basically letting their forests die they've been doing
[00:36:45] no forest cleanup at all and then they wonder when the forest
[00:36:47] fire happens they wonder why it happened why it spread so fast
[00:36:51] they do nothing to mitigate that wow so
[00:36:54] that's the same thing with this and so yeah so it's going to be
[00:36:56] interesting uh to see definitely but um i also just want to throw out
[00:37:00] there that uh your idea tonight was to smoke cigars
[00:37:04] uh do this and you thought it was over the phone and i said no we're
[00:37:06] going to do video it's going to be awesome
[00:37:08] you did say that and i tried to warn you about the internet up here
[00:37:11] and so funny you mentioned that i realized
[00:37:15] five minutes before y'all showed up i recently had to
[00:37:19] get a new phone and this one has a usb-c
[00:37:23] and i do not have the cables i need to convert from this to three and
[00:37:26] a half millimeter audio jack so if you had decided to call me we
[00:37:30] would have had a whole other set of problems
[00:37:33] yeah of course you have to buy the fun lightning adapter to
[00:37:36] 3.5 millimeter jack of course that's how they get you right despite the uh
[00:37:40] uh the p4s have that uh bluetooth uh adapter that you can plug in and it
[00:37:47] your phone connects to a nine dollar cable
[00:37:49] a nine dollar cable is cheaper and more reliable than what you're gonna
[00:37:53] lose yeah yeah well i haven't looked
[00:37:56] okay this is what happens when you have a malvico host
[00:38:00] so i haven't lost this in all these years we haven't used it in
[00:38:04] forever because you know we've had pretty reliable internet ever since you
[00:38:07] moved out of um the middle of nowhere now i'm
[00:38:10] buying i die gross all right welcome back to the middle of nowhere
[00:38:13] it's okay this is quieter i was i've been camping
[00:38:16] yeah uh and yeah it's nice not hearing uh semi trucks yeah andrew is the
[00:38:21] only guy that's like hey the party's on saturdays well i can't make it to
[00:38:24] the party so i'll come up two days early and i'll help you work
[00:38:26] like god god bless that work ethic but man i've been like i run over to
[00:38:30] the party i'm gonna take those days off not the not the work days
[00:38:34] um but you know phil this to one thing that's been
[00:38:38] the the discussion of this this tinderbox
[00:38:41] the thing that really gets me you know my dad
[00:38:45] 1936 my dad was born he was too young for world war two uh because
[00:38:51] you know age college uh you know korean war all this
[00:38:55] jet so my my dad's not a veteran i'm a
[00:38:57] veteran uh but i i remember him talking about
[00:39:02] life during world war two and i am a student of history and i really
[00:39:07] enjoy learning about what has happened to us as a civilization maybe so we'll
[00:39:12] never ever have it happen again and the horrors of
[00:39:14] of conflict and i'm just the biggest thing that gets me recently and it's
[00:39:18] not the political side of the palestinian or israeli
[00:39:20] it's the fact that you can be jewish and you can not be israeli
[00:39:25] uh you can be israeli and you cannot support the israeli government in fact
[00:39:29] i believe there is a bit of strife going on over there with that
[00:39:32] what really gets me that where i've lost so much faith in our
[00:39:37] our country is that the stuff that we saw
[00:39:41] in germany with the jews is now in high def 5g happening on
[00:39:49] america's college campuses where people that are
[00:39:52] jewish that maybe have never been to israel
[00:39:56] are having violence done to them are being
[00:39:59] banned from their places of higher education
[00:40:02] and i can understand where uh fascists by the actual definition uh bigots
[00:40:09] all of these things i can understand that from the onesie twosie
[00:40:11] but institutionalization when you have these college
[00:40:15] presidents testifying before congress saying that is saying death to jews
[00:40:21] a violation of the code of conduct and with smirks on their face
[00:40:25] like they just talked to their lawyer they say only if it's actionable
[00:40:29] so only if you kill a jew on the college campus is a problem instead of
[00:40:32] saying absolutely that's unacceptable doesn't
[00:40:35] matter if it was death to palestinians death to jews death
[00:40:38] the white people death the black people
[00:40:40] by saying anything like that you'd be in violation and you are absolutely
[00:40:43] done from this higher education facility instead
[00:40:47] we're seeing the exact opposite and and this is
[00:40:50] transcending college campuses this is in places of business google for example
[00:40:56] where they're taking over the ceo's office this stuff is terrifying
[00:41:00] because that classic line that we hear over and over again those that forget
[00:41:03] history are doomed to repeat it and we are
[00:41:06] seeing it and it's one of those you want to stand there in high
[00:41:09] fluorescent orange waving your hands going guys do you
[00:41:12] not see do you not see what is happening we can have a discussion
[00:41:15] about is the israeli policy about what
[00:41:18] they're doing in gaza is that wrong but you should not be beating a young
[00:41:22] jewish girl who's going to college unconscious because she's just trying to
[00:41:26] get to the library and you don't agree with what israel is
[00:41:29] doing but people are saying no no it's okay
[00:41:32] and it's not it's not being quashed like every one of us every american
[00:41:36] after world war two punch a nazi like the whole reason
[00:41:40] glorious bastards can get away with everything in it is because we know
[00:41:44] the one group of people that we can guys in any movie
[00:41:47] which all against are the the world war two ss and nazis
[00:41:51] right but we're seeing that now happen in america and people are just going
[00:41:55] oh yeah let's hear what they have to say i don't know if i ran them again
[00:41:57] if not violence is there out freedom of speech i'll hear what you have to
[00:42:00] say right but the moment you lay a hand on somebody you trespass on
[00:42:03] someone's property or you commit vandalism you have lost that
[00:42:07] protester definition and you are now a problem for society the problem is
[00:42:11] society is saying yeah we're okay with this in certain
[00:42:15] geographical areas and the problem is those areas are
[00:42:18] encompassing lots and tens of thousands if not millions of
[00:42:21] innocent americans who are once again in that philadelphia where
[00:42:25] no one's coming to save you so that's the big that's the scary thing that
[00:42:29] i've got going on with the country is
[00:42:31] it's okay there's always gonna be bad guys out there but
[00:42:34] when the the definition of reasonableness starts to shift
[00:42:38] so much that we are in not literally well
[00:42:42] literally but not officially in a balkanization
[00:42:46] michigan is balkanized there's places that i will not go
[00:42:50] and if i were to go i know full well that my use of deadly force or
[00:42:54] intermediate force is completely different because even if
[00:42:58] i do it by the book i am done for that's the balkanization that
[00:43:02] is balkanization of michigan that is the balkanization
[00:43:05] of redden states and blue states there we're getting to the point where
[00:43:08] people are going to start to flee to a state line like they used to do back
[00:43:11] before law enforcement could pursue past
[00:43:14] county lines and state lines it's going to get to the point where
[00:43:17] you're just getting across because a prosecutor in the red state is going to
[00:43:20] say no we're not extraditing under your blue state
[00:43:22] because that charge that you just made was baloney versus
[00:43:25] that inner state saying hey what was the law that was broken oh yeah
[00:43:28] that ain't right so we're of course going to hand this guy back over
[00:43:31] and we are already seeing it and god help us
[00:43:34] this ridiculous trial donald trump ain't i'm not a fan of donald trump
[00:43:38] but i've become more of a fan of donald trump with all the crap that's going
[00:43:41] on and i certainly he's got my vote over what the other choice that i've
[00:43:43] got because when i look at the economy and
[00:43:46] the cost of everything like there's things that i do as a critical
[00:43:49] thinking human being and going to base a vote on but
[00:43:52] when you look at where these trials of like the january 6th
[00:43:55] defendants where trump is on trial you've literally doing these these
[00:43:59] trials in places where the opposition the opposition has figured out that all
[00:44:05] you got to do is get on the jury that's all you got to do
[00:44:09] doesn't matter what the judge reads the law
[00:44:11] the elements of the crime collusion two or more people involved
[00:44:15] in a secret agreement to break the law those are your three elements did they
[00:44:19] commit conclusion and someone on the opposition just says oh yeah they
[00:44:22] totally did those three elements but i like their politics so not guilty
[00:44:27] that's where we're at and the january 6th defendants some of them deserve jail
[00:44:31] and prison there's a lot of them that do not they i
[00:44:34] think that the conviction rate is over 90
[00:44:38] why it's in washington dc like if there was a trial
[00:44:42] any other place maybe their home state it would actually probably be
[00:44:45] factually based and if they did this and did that and
[00:44:48] evidence rules and things like that but yeah it's a
[00:44:51] it is a very scary time for anyone that really one gives a crap about
[00:44:56] the united states of america not the government
[00:44:58] the government are human beings there's been great governments bad
[00:45:02] governments but when you stand when you care about
[00:45:04] what the flag stands for and what this country can be
[00:45:08] and you're watching it being destroyed by people that could never
[00:45:11] ever ever have had the wherewithal and the mental capacity
[00:45:15] to do this experiment that's terrifying because we know what the
[00:45:19] end goal is and those are all those countries out there we go
[00:45:21] oh thank god i didn't live there when they massacred their people or they
[00:45:25] starved all ukrainians you know it's a really a terrifying thing
[00:45:30] but i think the the biggest and i'm gonna i'll turn the mic back over
[00:45:33] the biggest danger that i see is it's never you know you wake up and there's
[00:45:38] tanks rolling on the street and there's anti-aircraft fire that is the frog
[00:45:42] being tossed into hot water the frat the frog by
[00:45:45] the old adage jumps out of the hot water because
[00:45:48] it burns what has happened to us is that because
[00:45:51] there aren't rpg holes in our buildings and it's not everyone
[00:45:54] deals with shootings on their block constantly we are the frog that was
[00:45:58] placed in cool water the cool water was the country that was founded
[00:46:01] under equality the equality of opportunity not the equality of
[00:46:06] outcomes and the temperature has been raised
[00:46:09] and raised it's boiling now and we're sitting in the water going
[00:46:11] man this is hot but at least it's not hotter everything's fun we're
[00:46:15] having fun right now right everything's fine right the whole world is burning
[00:46:18] down this happy thought brought to you by
[00:46:21] trek at mdf5 well no but i mean it's not supposed to be a happy thought
[00:46:26] it's supposed to be you know a dose of reality sure and
[00:46:30] see in moments like this when we get really doomy and gloomy i
[00:46:33] tend to go back to my own personal mantra which is like
[00:46:37] the world sucks get a helmet what can i what can i influence
[00:46:41] and or than pontificating on the internet in front of people
[00:46:45] weekly which i don't think has a huge impact personally on
[00:46:49] the direction of like 30 something million people
[00:46:53] i go i take situations like this and i go back to
[00:46:57] like me as a father because i've told i've talked to people before and
[00:47:01] you know specifically when we're talking about like because we're
[00:47:04] talking about a by the majority we're talking
[00:47:06] about college-age kids but there's still somebody's sons and daughters
[00:47:11] and i always go back to like what can we do to influence the situation
[00:47:14] so that this problem doesn't get any worse maybe has a prayer of
[00:47:17] rebounding and i've been very forthcoming with people
[00:47:21] about my belief that we as parents have a duty to indoctrinate our children
[00:47:26] and our values or somebody else is going to indoctrinate
[00:47:29] them in their own and the word indoctrinate has like
[00:47:32] a negative connotation some people but i'm going to tell you that like
[00:47:37] there's a 12 year old in this house who she's talked she's been talked to
[00:47:42] by her father about what the bill of rights is
[00:47:44] and about what her rights as an american citizen are
[00:47:48] and what her rights as a breathing human being are
[00:47:51] separate from what her government says she's allowed to do
[00:47:54] she has we've had conversations in this house about you know
[00:47:57] the balance between federalism and anti-federalism and about
[00:48:01] like some of these ideas that our countries wrestle with for almost 250
[00:48:05] years like how long those ideas have been wrestled with and why they
[00:48:08] existed back then and why they still exist today
[00:48:12] i talk to her about those things because i need her to be able to be a
[00:48:16] critical thinking american she has to know her history
[00:48:19] she has to know where she came from she has to know why things around her
[00:48:24] seem to be in this constant state of you know back and forth and battle
[00:48:29] over these concepts and understand that these are some of these are not new
[00:48:32] concepts these are things that have been happening for a long time
[00:48:35] but mostly i need her to be filled with
[00:48:39] my values and my wife's values because if not
[00:48:44] then one day she's going to go out of my house and there's some going to be
[00:48:47] somebody out there waiting to pump her full of all the nonsense that
[00:48:50] these kids we've been talking about are pumped full of
[00:48:54] and i would like to believe that if she is indoctrinated with my values
[00:48:57] as i was indoctrinated with my parents values
[00:49:01] i was in college you know for a period of time where
[00:49:04] maybe things weren't to this level but this this kind of thing has been
[00:49:07] brewing in universities for decades but it couldn't penetrate me it couldn't
[00:49:12] sway me like no one could sway me off of my own beliefs back then
[00:49:16] because they were already so firmly rooted so what i tell people at this
[00:49:20] point is if you are an influence in a child's
[00:49:23] life be a positive one because if you're not somebody else
[00:49:27] is going to influence them and i feel like that's what we're
[00:49:29] seeing right now well i think no you're you're absolutely
[00:49:32] right Phil we're seeing not just the household getting really
[00:49:37] involved in that education of their their children
[00:49:42] as in you know old-timey knowledge passed down from mother or father to
[00:49:46] child we're seeing lots of people that are
[00:49:48] realizing that the education system you know the classic we're trying to
[00:49:52] make you factory workers we're trying to
[00:49:54] you know get you indoctrinated into that nine to five
[00:49:58] routine with this public school system you're seeing scores and scores
[00:50:01] of people as you guys know pulling their children out realizing
[00:50:04] the dangers that that that's happening and what i really do like to see is
[00:50:08] you are seeing big names in leadership in the
[00:50:14] the professional world you know ceo co's that are saying
[00:50:18] yeah uh you can get through columbia you can get through nyu you can go
[00:50:22] through whatever college it is where
[00:50:25] you're playing these stupid games and getting these ridiculous degrees
[00:50:27] you will have no place you'll have no place in our professional workforce and
[00:50:32] so yeah that pendulum is swinging and we're
[00:50:34] seeing people that are that are starting to say okay
[00:50:36] grassroots uh and then the people that are at the top level are saying
[00:50:39] well strategic level we're not going to allow this to occur
[00:50:42] and there is something to be said that the majority of these individuals
[00:50:46] that are currently involved in these not protesting but actual violent acts
[00:50:51] or criminal acts which is completely different than
[00:50:55] lawful protesting they are only able to do this because their cognitive world
[00:51:02] is in the now they do not understand that in order for them to
[00:51:07] be successful in life to further themselves into their 40s 50s 60s and
[00:51:12] then to have that at retirement they're they're not going to make it
[00:51:16] they're not going to make it in the real world so a great majority of
[00:51:19] them are going to get the proverbial kick to the nuts in one
[00:51:24] way shape or form now some will stay in academia like the
[00:51:27] majority of these professors that are being
[00:51:29] rested along with the other criminal actors they've been in academia
[00:51:34] that's their world they are in a bubble but the majority of people that
[00:51:38] are going to go out and they're going to find out that
[00:51:41] you know i want to make a complaint why because you know Andrew's coffee
[00:51:44] cup is triggering me the the color of it is
[00:51:47] triggering me and you're gonna have the boss go
[00:51:49] shut up like that's gonna happen for a lot of them they're gonna have to
[00:51:53] realize that that's that's not the world that they exist in so
[00:51:56] there are you're right when you get in the doom and gloom there are always
[00:52:01] positives that come from this the the trick will be
[00:52:05] is it too little too late and if it is too little too late well the good
[00:52:09] thing is those that are taking it upon themselves
[00:52:12] they are increasing their um good times
[00:52:15] possible good times versus increasing their likelihood for
[00:52:19] bad times if i have a kid that knows how to shoot a deer
[00:52:22] gut the deer field dress the deer process the deer versus a kid in the inner city
[00:52:27] who only knows how to play video games can't change a spare tire
[00:52:30] would black out if you ever saw how the beef that he was eating in a
[00:52:35] hamburger was made that's that's a liability not an
[00:52:38] asset and i'm not saying there are kids out in the country
[00:52:41] that are the same way i'm just saying statistically uh those people
[00:52:44] that are setting their families up they're they're they're creating
[00:52:47] assets not liabilities and that even on bad outcome is better
[00:52:52] for them and that is good that is something that
[00:52:54] you know that's what this podcast is all about
[00:52:57] yeah i think at the i think at the end of the day like
[00:53:00] that that really is kind of my point of view like i i genuinely
[00:53:04] don't want to accept or believe or entertain that
[00:53:09] this country is too far gone for a variety of reasons like
[00:53:12] not the least which is the fact that i enlisted when i was 17 years old
[00:53:15] obviously i've got some emotions tied up in that
[00:53:18] but like you know i can remember a lot of time
[00:53:21] many many moons ago before the beard came in when i still had hair on the
[00:53:25] top and that whole thing where i completely changed
[00:53:31] i completely changed majors i completely changed career paths
[00:53:35] i changed the forward direction of my entire life
[00:53:40] based simply on the fact that i met a girl
[00:53:43] and i wanted to be a father and i wanted to have kids
[00:53:47] and i made the decision at that point i don't want to pursue the career path
[00:53:52] i was on because it was going to mandate i was going to raise my kids
[00:53:56] overseas and if i was going to have children
[00:53:58] i wanted them to be american citizens you know like i didn't have any real
[00:54:04] qualms with moving to germany or italy to pursue that career path
[00:54:08] but if i was going to have kids i wanted to be americans
[00:54:11] and so i firmly want to believe that this
[00:54:15] this crazy experiment we undertook can be saved
[00:54:19] i agree with you if it can't if it can't
[00:54:22] then i will be one of the ones roasting marshmallows over the flames
[00:54:25] and marveling at the ashes with everybody else
[00:54:28] but i want to believe it can be saved and if it can be saved then the
[00:54:32] answer is what it always is you know it's to protect yourself
[00:54:37] protect your family build up your community and your tribe
[00:54:41] take care of your kids and make sure that they're ready to pick up the
[00:54:44] baton after you drop it and hope that the next generation is less screwed up
[00:54:49] than ours was i'm a millennial by the way so i'm
[00:54:52] i am happy to own a lot of like as a member of this
[00:54:55] generation i'm prepared to own a lot of the nonsense that's going on in
[00:54:58] this country right now i hope upon hope that my borderline
[00:55:03] gen z gen alpha daughter has a less screwed up
[00:55:07] generation than i did yeah it's a you know you you bring up an interesting
[00:55:11] thing i think it's the the role of the
[00:55:14] responsible american a role of an american
[00:55:17] a responsible citizen who happens to be an american
[00:55:20] you have to take the same lesson that we do with
[00:55:24] you know video analysis and use of force it's it's not good guy die
[00:55:28] bad guy die or good guy live bad guy live why did the winner win
[00:55:31] why did the loser lose learn from it and then fix it so it doesn't
[00:55:35] happen to you well you take the same lesson a american
[00:55:39] must be able to see the failure of his country
[00:55:42] because if you can see how it happens in your brain you can work to make
[00:55:46] sure it doesn't happen and so i am always in in my thoughts
[00:55:52] whether i'm on a run or on a bike ride where i my brain can really just
[00:55:55] start to kind of ponder i always get brought back to yamamoto
[00:55:59] who said behind every blade of grass a rifle
[00:56:02] first of all about talking about invasion of mainland united states which
[00:56:06] is very important and and then you hear discussions from
[00:56:11] that kg beat effector talking about well everybody knows the united states
[00:56:14] can't be brought down from outside but it certainly can be brought down
[00:56:17] from the inside so if you go back to yamamoto behind every blade of grass
[00:56:21] a rifle well if all americans are running around
[00:56:23] with the muzzle of their rifles in their mouth with their toes on the
[00:56:25] trigger the country can absolutely go down but
[00:56:28] if it's every man a rifleman who knows what they're doing good luck
[00:56:32] taking the country and so that's that is the trick is knowing
[00:56:37] what it will take is more americans to give a shit than the inverse
[00:56:43] and right now why we are concerned is because
[00:56:47] i would imagine it's not majority number
[00:56:50] who would prefer to see the stars and stripes hit the dirt
[00:56:54] it is a good amount of people with institutions and those institutions
[00:57:00] are higher learning of course the current united states government
[00:57:03] and all the lackeys therein or whoever is actually running the
[00:57:06] government because it sure as hell isn't the guy that
[00:57:09] calls himself potus that's pretty clear the media
[00:57:14] huge institution magnifying what we hope is a minority voice and i'm
[00:57:19] talking minority as in people that want to destroy
[00:57:21] the country versus the majority of red-blooded americans that want to see
[00:57:25] it continue and wave into the the
[00:57:28] fields of wheat for many many centuries to come that that's the
[00:57:33] trick though so now we know okay yeah there are foreign things that
[00:57:36] we have to worry about but we really need to focus on is
[00:57:39] only we can do ourselves in so look it would be the whole think
[00:57:45] globally act locally right that that's truly it you have
[00:57:49] to look at okay what's going on around you
[00:57:52] that can cause the biggest harm to the way things are that is safe for
[00:57:56] your family and elon musk you know it's always funny in my family that
[00:58:01] fell very i fell very far from the tree they think elon musk is the devil
[00:58:04] because he's the guy that was the darling of the left and now he's
[00:58:08] actually all about the rights you know as a
[00:58:10] if i'm not mistaken a south african who's now a naturalized american
[00:58:13] and it's amazing that the guys that actually did the hard work to become
[00:58:16] americans they really care about being an american
[00:58:19] versus the people just step across the border and and take free stuff
[00:58:22] right so elon musk um he was talking about uh
[00:58:29] you know free speech and the dangers that are coming from these
[00:58:34] the government the the media and and simply saying
[00:58:38] you know this is one vote one pen stroke away and if this goes
[00:58:44] away it's just take notes from every other
[00:58:47] country that we watched cookie cutter after cookie cutter after cookie cutter
[00:58:53] i'll tell you a great story a segue i just had a college student reach out
[00:58:56] to me this is very interesting from uh i'm guessing a liberal college i
[00:59:01] don't actually know but i'm gonna take a guess it's a college here in
[00:59:03] michigan and he said hey i'm doing a thing on
[00:59:05] guns i'm like oh great i know where this email is going
[00:59:08] he's probably looking for the opposing viewpoint
[00:59:11] and he said i'm looking my the the point of my
[00:59:15] paper is our guns bad our guns bad and i'm trying to get a
[00:59:20] counterpoint or your take i found you online well i wrote him a
[00:59:24] response saying guns are really bad guns are really bad and if you want to
[00:59:28] read anybody wants to read i'm happy to send it to you
[00:59:30] and basically what it was is i said yeah guns are horrible and i broke
[00:59:32] down historically all of the innocent people across
[00:59:35] the world have been massacred at the hands of armed governments
[00:59:38] and i don't think it went the way that he expected me to respond
[00:59:41] i said so statistically statistically the government the people that try to take
[00:59:47] our guns are far more likely to do horrible things with the guns and so
[00:59:51] because of statistics guns do more harm than good but at
[00:59:54] the same time as the individual who could also be
[00:59:57] massacred i'm not giving up anything because i see what the
[01:00:01] statistics tell me will happen if i give my guns up
[01:00:03] and of course he responded with thank you for your time and i said
[01:00:06] i'd love to see your paper when you're done and i haven't heard
[01:00:08] anything about it right i don't think i will
[01:00:10] because i imagine all went to the bottom of the trash bin but i did
[01:00:15] share with the alumni and i said this is that critical thinking point of
[01:00:18] view yeah i mean there are everything that we're
[01:00:22] being told is that we they're trying to outlaw
[01:00:25] they're only dangerous in the hands of governments
[01:00:28] you know this guy this this dude in in new york that just got the 10
[01:00:33] year prison sentence dexter taylor and i hope the fbc gets involved in
[01:00:37] his appeal by the way but uh let's say that guide was building
[01:00:41] guns to be a criminal statistically he's a criminal there's
[01:00:45] however many million other americans out there that because of his actions
[01:00:49] his criminal behavior does not warrant anything being done to me but
[01:00:52] these blanket statements the restrictions on free speech the
[01:00:55] concealed carry free gun free zones they are all tidbit bites out of
[01:01:01] rights that only protect me from statistics and
[01:01:05] statistically all harm on a gross scale comes from
[01:01:10] governments or large entities that are no longer acting the best interest of
[01:01:15] their people and that's that's the thing that we as
[01:01:18] americans have to say it can happen it has happened what are
[01:01:22] you going to do and it doesn't mean grab your ar and run off in the
[01:01:24] streets yelling huzzah but the majority of americans haven't
[01:01:27] written a letter they haven't written a letter to their congressman hey
[01:01:30] let's prove that the congressperson is actually working for me the moment i
[01:01:34] find out they're not will now start the next step and getting
[01:01:37] involved in the campaign of the person that's going to
[01:01:40] oust them and it's you take it i'm a movie quote fan take it from benjamin
[01:01:44] martin and the patriot write a letter they said we've
[01:01:46] already written a letter he said write another one
[01:01:48] because you don't understand what the if we are if we just say well
[01:01:51] someone else is going to do it we have inertia we're lazy
[01:01:54] the end result the end result is not even when we talk about being
[01:02:00] prepared it's still not what we want and we are as we've mentioned in
[01:02:03] the show as dangerously close to that as possible
[01:02:07] and it's believe me it ain't what we want the delusions of grandeur of any
[01:02:12] anyone not americans but anybody that likes to lark and wear all the gear
[01:02:16] that's never seen the carnage of conflict it you don't want it
[01:02:20] your uniform will not be bright and shiny it will be covered in blood
[01:02:24] covered in grime you will be malnourished you will watch people die that
[01:02:27] you love so get involved now and that's but
[01:02:31] as americans i have to make my mind has to be able to go there and say
[01:02:35] oh my god what do i need to do to make sure that never happens
[01:02:38] you know if i need to run for sheriff not saying i am rich i know
[01:02:40] you're the sheriff like i'm not but if i need to do that because the
[01:02:43] sheriff in this hypothetical situation is being unconstitutional well i'm
[01:02:47] going to do that far before i ever grab an ar-15
[01:02:49] but a lot of people just go i'm gonna wait for the next guy to do it
[01:02:53] i'm gonna wait for the next person to go door to door and be on a
[01:02:56] campaign trail or write a letter or have conversations like this right so
[01:03:01] yeah it the long and the short of it is no one's bringing down the united
[01:03:05] states except for us i think the benefit to what's happening
[01:03:09] yes there is some downside but the conditions are ripe for great strife
[01:03:12] and problems but a lot of people are waking up
[01:03:15] and saying i've been asleep at the wheel too long
[01:03:18] and it's time it's now time to either get involved either
[01:03:22] running for office doing something formal or just simply as phil said
[01:03:25] pull your kids aside and have this talk about these kids in the college
[01:03:29] campus what are they really doing and think for themselves and that's
[01:03:33] that's you got to turn a frown upside down otherwise you'll get
[01:03:36] you'll get wallowing in the quagmire of of that adult life right well i mean
[01:03:39] that's just uh really quick before you start wrapping up that's just like
[01:03:42] brandon harrera and yeah oh yeah he absolutely saw what's going on with
[01:03:47] the congressman that is basically signing away all kinds of
[01:03:50] rights he's um tony gonzalez yeah he's time and time again he's
[01:03:55] voted to send cut keep sending money uh over to ukraine
[01:03:58] you know i mean a bunch of stuff and yeah brandon harris voted for biden's
[01:04:02] bipartisan gun control bill yeah and so yeah brandon harris like you know what
[01:04:07] so i'm gonna see what i can do it sure is great to see the knives come out
[01:04:11] now yeah he actually has a chance right yeah amazing how afraid they are
[01:04:14] you can tell by how many knives you get at you
[01:04:16] so yeah but uh so yeah interesting we have we have some we have some
[01:04:22] very interesting shows coming up in the future
[01:04:24] just with what's going on that's that'll definitely be
[01:04:27] uh that'll definitely spark some some new conversations for sure
[01:04:32] 2024 is definitely gonna give us plenty to talk about
[01:04:35] that you it's an election year guys like
[01:04:38] i would love to be a happy little tinfoil hat wearing you know
[01:04:41] prepper and sit here and talk about all the nerdy crap that i'm doing to
[01:04:45] get ready for shtf and all that stuff but i just don't think the country
[01:04:49] is going to allow us for the next several months because there's just
[01:04:52] gonna be weird things happening well the best part will be like
[01:04:57] if we can do the show and be like well it's november 6 everybody and we're
[01:04:59] still here instead of coming to you live from the
[01:05:02] bunker this is phil andrew and trek who's now glowing in the dark by the
[01:05:06] way yeah technically there's no reason we
[01:05:10] couldn't do a november 6 show with all of us wearing body armor with
[01:05:13] helmets on you know with with a coke with a coke and burn we actually
[01:05:17] almost did the show wearing our nods today
[01:05:19] yeah yeah so anyway
[01:05:24] we do need to start packing this up but trek like i
[01:05:27] i feel like anybody that's in our audience for more than like six minutes
[01:05:30] probably already knows who you are but give them the sales pitch to get
[01:05:35] convinced them to come to michigan and fill their head with
[01:05:37] useful things sure yeah so trek eric you trekked owner of mdfi training
[01:05:41] out of michigan teach rifle handgun shotgun less
[01:05:44] lethal use of force force on force uh teach about 70 classes a year in
[01:05:49] michigan and surrounding states we're actually just started
[01:05:51] kind of in our first full month of classes classes are with even with the
[01:05:56] economy we're seeing really good it's good class numbers which is
[01:05:59] awesome just finished up a weekend teaching our most popular handgun class
[01:06:02] called you suck it's not the gun which is only 100 rounds fired in eight
[01:06:05] hours and arguably the most important class
[01:06:08] shooting class we teach because accuracy is of course always final but
[01:06:11] yeah you can find us on train mdf i.com
[01:06:13] i am trekk at train mdf i.com if you want to send me an email
[01:06:17] if you'd like to read that uh response that i wrote to the college
[01:06:20] kid i will be happy to send it on we're actually actually also offering
[01:06:23] our two-page opening briefing our firearms control briefing we do at
[01:06:27] every firearms class i am offering that for free for anybody
[01:06:30] as long as you give us credit i will email you the pdf and that way you
[01:06:33] can use that at your range sessions if you are a firearms instructor if
[01:06:37] you're a law enforcement instructor and you want to use that
[01:06:39] that's something i just started this year but uh yeah not not only am i
[01:06:43] the owner of mdfi i am soon to be a firearms product
[01:06:47] uh i'm a designer now yeah yeah it's crazy that uh
[01:06:52] you're taking a lot of hats yeah yeah so it looks like i just sold a
[01:06:56] range looks like you might be buying into another range and then
[01:06:59] uh nr a show is saturday starts saturday in texas
[01:07:02] i believe and my first firearms product that i designed along with a friend
[01:07:06] of mine named z the incredible z our first firearms
[01:07:10] product is coming to market uh being manufactured by shield arms
[01:07:14] you guys are the first one to hear this so we're really excited about that so
[01:07:18] in other words you're going to be back on in a couple weeks to talk to us
[01:07:21] about that i'm going to try to avoid the shameless pitches i am fairly
[01:07:24] confident that this product will sell itself and i'm not going to need to
[01:07:27] do much talking about it uh i'll just i can only hint but i'll
[01:07:31] leave you with this imagine a hundred years worth of
[01:07:34] guns being brought into the modern age
[01:07:38] and i feel like that's a riddle a hundred years hundred years worth of
[01:07:42] guns being brought up into the modern age with a
[01:07:44] with a uh five ounce part so it's well unless you're talking about a red dot
[01:07:50] mount for cap and ball pistols i'm actually going to write that down
[01:07:54] right now that's not a bad idea that is not a bad idea
[01:07:58] but and and if you decide if you decide to go that route i got a buddy
[01:08:02] who likes to play with with uh black powder stuff you should
[01:08:05] definitely talk to because he's just crazy enough to help you put that in
[01:08:08] listen if the world is going to end you have to have serious guns and then you
[01:08:12] have to have a crazy pistol that is the when the zombie whores are cresting
[01:08:16] the hill and all the mags are empty on the
[01:08:18] ground you got to pull off that dragoon with an sro on it
[01:08:21] and y'all huzzah that's exactly how you go tally ho
[01:08:25] that's exactly how you gotta go out with a bayonet if i can't have a
[01:08:29] four pound field gun loaded with friggin buckshot
[01:08:31] and what are we even i know all right well let's go ahead and kick
[01:08:35] this one out the door i'm gonna have all the links to trex nonsense f
[01:08:39] mdfis nonsense and everything else i can think of shove down in the
[01:08:43] show description even though none of y'all read that i know but i put there
[01:08:46] just in case any of y'all would like to click a link rather than
[01:08:49] read or rather than listen and if you didn't make it this far into
[01:08:53] the show that's your own fault you missed a lot of
[01:08:55] funny shenanigans and matter of fact podcast going out the door
[01:08:59] trek thanks for stopping by and we'll have you back just as soon as we can
[01:09:03] talk about a cap and ball pistol with the neotech on it
[01:09:06] thanks guys appreciate having me bye y'all bye
