PBN 2024 Year in Review PT 2

[00:00:02] You're listening to PBN, Your Path Back to Stability

[00:00:10] Listen to that intro this morning. Wow, that thing hits. That's nice. Your Path Back to Stability.

[00:00:37] When you do this every single day, you know what I mean? It feels like...

[00:00:42] Sometimes it feels like I'm watching PBN rather than, you know, being PBN.

[00:00:49] You know what I'm saying? Like, I hear these sound bites all the time.

[00:00:52] And yeah, that one hit, though.

[00:00:56] Welcome. The Commander's on the couch.

[00:01:00] The Commander is on the couch. I'm coming to you live from the typically...

[00:01:05] Or the typical broadcast setup, which should not be the case at 954 on the Thursday before Prepper Camp.

[00:01:12] I should be somewhere on I-95 South, closing in on I-85.

[00:01:21] I spent 48 hours monitoring the hurricane.

[00:01:26] 48 hours monitoring intelligence coming out of the area.

[00:01:33] And when I say monitoring intelligence, I'm going to talk to you a little bit about that.

[00:01:39] Because the way I do information is everybody.

[00:01:43] You know what I mean?

[00:01:44] The way that I do information is I get it from everyone.

[00:01:47] That's the way I do it.

[00:01:48] I make sure that I'm not stuck on one thing.

[00:01:54] These are the good guys. Those are the bad guys.

[00:01:56] Actually, when I'm gathering information, I almost don't even care.

[00:02:00] I'm a quantity over quality person when it comes to big decisions and gathering intel.

[00:02:08] That's just how my mind works.

[00:02:09] I want to be inundated.

[00:02:12] I want to be inundated with information because I have an ability, I guess, or something like that.

[00:02:19] Like, if I dump it in there, what's important will get hung up in the net.

[00:02:26] Right?

[00:02:26] What's important will get hung up in the net.

[00:02:30] And basically, by noon yesterday, I had a pretty good feeling that I wasn't going to go to Saluda, North Carolina.

[00:02:39] Just based on what I was seeing.

[00:02:44] Around 1-2-ish, my wife alerted me to the fact that her offices in Atlanta and offices in the area were closing.

[00:02:56] And that a state of emergency had been declared for Western North Carolina.

[00:03:06] I was watching rain totals.

[00:03:08] I was not excited about the amount of the sheer volume of rain that...

[00:03:12] And listen, I don't want to go over things and scare people.

[00:03:19] Suffice it to say, to me, it seemed dangerous.

[00:03:25] There were things that could happen to me, my vehicle, and so on.

[00:03:32] On the way there, while there, on the way home.

[00:03:38] And it all equated to me saying, see ya in 2025.

[00:03:45] Oh, it stings.

[00:03:46] Don't get me wrong.

[00:03:47] It's a stinger.

[00:03:49] Because the majority of the hosts who are planning on going are there.

[00:03:54] Or are in route right now.

[00:03:58] So, they're going to endure.

[00:04:00] There's no doubt about that.

[00:04:02] But it'll probably be great stories.

[00:04:03] They'll probably have a good time.

[00:04:05] I hope.

[00:04:07] You know?

[00:04:07] That's my hope.

[00:04:08] Because now a very big part of my heart is still in Saluda anyway.

[00:04:13] You know what I mean?

[00:04:14] So, even though I decided against it,

[00:04:16] doesn't mean that a lot of people that I care about

[00:04:20] aren't going to have to deal with whatever the hell rolls through there.

[00:04:24] So, it's going to be a very weird year, man.

[00:04:26] A very weird year for me.

[00:04:27] I haven't missed Prever Camp since 2019.

[00:04:32] And, you know, we talk about it like we talk about it.

[00:04:37] And understand that it wasn't an easy decision to make.

[00:04:41] I consulted many people who were close to me.

[00:04:44] I consulted many of the hosts.

[00:04:46] I consulted family members.

[00:04:50] I even called the campground manager at Orchard Lake.

[00:04:56] And just, you know, just as a phone call.

[00:04:59] An informational phone call.

[00:05:00] And got information from them.

[00:05:02] Like I said, I dump it all into this crazy brain of mine.

[00:05:07] Turn on the blender.

[00:05:09] And that's how I decide these things.

[00:05:12] So, I pulled a lot of intel from a lot of different places.

[00:05:15] And it just seemed like the best decision for me

[00:05:20] was to wait until 2025.

[00:05:24] And that's all I want to say about it.

[00:05:26] Because, look, it's a really weird position to be in.

[00:05:33] Because, undoubtedly, you're letting people down.

[00:05:36] Which always sucks.

[00:05:39] But on top of that,

[00:05:42] you don't want to shade another person's decision too much.

[00:05:47] And on top of that,

[00:05:49] if things do go terrible,

[00:05:51] like if something terrible happens,

[00:05:55] then you're going to have the regret of,

[00:05:56] maybe I should have been more forthright.

[00:05:59] Right?

[00:06:00] So,

[00:06:01] it's all up in the air until Friday afternoon, basically.

[00:06:04] For those of you who haven't got the email

[00:06:07] or didn't hear the communication from Rick,

[00:06:10] Prepper Camp is a go still.

[00:06:12] But they are going to be opening later.

[00:06:15] Okay?

[00:06:15] Actually, let me give you the details on that

[00:06:17] so you know exactly what the deal is.

[00:06:19] Because I know that's just an email.

[00:06:22] And a lot of people,

[00:06:25] a lot of people might not have gotten the email

[00:06:28] or even looked at the email,

[00:06:29] might be traveling.

[00:06:33] So,

[00:06:35] severe winds from the hurricane

[00:06:37] will be coming through tonight

[00:06:38] starting 3 a.m. Friday

[00:06:39] through noon on Friday.

[00:06:42] The wind will be manageable to set up after 1 p.m.

[00:06:45] So,

[00:06:45] they're not having vendors or anything set up

[00:06:48] until 1 p.m. tomorrow

[00:06:49] when the winds die down.

[00:06:51] Saturday and Sunday will be nice weather.

[00:06:56] Two excellent days where you can sell merchandise.

[00:06:59] He's talking to vendors here.

[00:07:02] But,

[00:07:03] yeah,

[00:07:04] weather delays for

[00:07:06] for Prepper Camp.

[00:07:11] I'm going to advise against anyone

[00:07:13] setting up anything

[00:07:14] until afternoon Friday.

[00:07:16] So,

[00:07:16] you arrive there today

[00:07:17] if you're a vendor speaker.

[00:07:19] You know,

[00:07:19] hopefully,

[00:07:21] hopefully,

[00:07:23] you waited out.

[00:07:24] You know what I mean?

[00:07:26] Let me find,

[00:07:27] let me see if I have the other.

[00:07:28] The other email was directed

[00:07:29] at the camp goers.

[00:07:30] Okay,

[00:07:31] here you go.

[00:07:31] Prepper Camp is still on.

[00:07:34] Where's the delayed opening part?

[00:07:36] We are here.

[00:07:39] If you're concerned about traveling

[00:07:40] through the storm,

[00:07:41] you may want to come Saturday,

[00:07:42] Sunday.

[00:07:45] Yeah,

[00:07:45] so,

[00:07:45] I mean,

[00:07:46] I think that's kind of

[00:07:46] what we're going,

[00:07:47] what we're looking at.

[00:07:48] Later,

[00:07:49] Friday,

[00:07:49] Saturday,

[00:07:51] and Sunday.

[00:07:52] Let me see what the Instagram said.

[00:07:54] I don't want to give you guys

[00:07:54] bad information on this.

[00:07:57] Like I said,

[00:07:58] the delayed stuff,

[00:07:59] I was kind of like,

[00:08:00] eh,

[00:08:01] because I was already kind of out.

[00:08:04] Come on,

[00:08:05] eh.

[00:08:06] Hold on,

[00:08:06] let me look it up.

[00:08:09] Prepper Camp.

[00:08:14] Those with concerns about the status

[00:08:16] of Prepper Camp 2024

[00:08:17] assure you that we are here

[00:08:19] and setting up.

[00:08:19] There will be rain,

[00:08:20] but the wind will not get strong

[00:08:22] until late Thursday,

[00:08:23] Friday morning.

[00:08:24] By Friday afternoon,

[00:08:24] the storm will have passed.

[00:08:25] Saturday,

[00:08:26] Sunday will be a little rain,

[00:08:28] sunny.

[00:08:28] See you at Prepper Camp 2024.

[00:08:30] Okay.

[00:08:31] That's the,

[00:08:31] that's the latest.

[00:08:32] Okay.

[00:08:33] I've given you the latest.

[00:08:34] That's the latest.

[00:08:38] What I do have planned,

[00:08:40] you know,

[00:08:40] I don't stop.

[00:08:41] You know what I mean?

[00:08:42] Like,

[00:08:42] I have fantasies that,

[00:08:44] oh,

[00:08:44] well,

[00:08:45] since I'm not at Prepper Camp,

[00:08:46] maybe I should enjoy myself

[00:08:47] for a couple days.

[00:08:49] I don't stop.

[00:08:50] I got phone meetings.

[00:08:51] I got all kinds of stuff

[00:08:53] to do today.

[00:08:53] And I,

[00:08:54] and as if I didn't have enough to do,

[00:08:56] even though I'm not supposed

[00:08:56] to be doing anything,

[00:08:58] I decided to call Dave Jones up

[00:09:00] because I know he's got a,

[00:09:01] long and lonely ride.

[00:09:03] Seven hours is a long and lonely ride.

[00:09:05] I don't care who you are.

[00:09:07] I decided to message Dave Jones.

[00:09:10] And I said,

[00:09:11] you know,

[00:09:11] I think this is the weekend

[00:09:12] since I'm not supposed to be here anyway,

[00:09:13] that I'm going to get the quail.

[00:09:15] Why don't we do a telephone call in

[00:09:18] quail Q&A between myself and Dave Jones?

[00:09:22] And then we'll post it,

[00:09:23] you know,

[00:09:24] so I'm going to walk through all my questions

[00:09:26] and concerns and so on

[00:09:27] and talk to Dave Jones about them

[00:09:29] before I pull the trigger

[00:09:30] and get this,

[00:09:32] this meat source and egg source.

[00:09:35] And then we'll go from there,

[00:09:37] you know,

[00:09:37] and we'll get,

[00:09:37] we'll probably get incredible information from,

[00:09:39] well,

[00:09:40] I know we'll get incredible information

[00:09:41] from Dave Jones.

[00:09:43] And that'll be that,

[00:09:44] you know,

[00:09:45] that'll be that,

[00:09:46] you know,

[00:09:48] he,

[00:09:48] he might regret it.

[00:09:49] I don't know.

[00:09:50] I'm not,

[00:09:51] I don't think he does regret it.

[00:09:53] Um,

[00:09:54] but Dave Jones is it advice?

[00:09:56] Like when I tell you guys,

[00:09:58] Dave Jones,

[00:09:59] prepping advice changed the way I look at prepping.

[00:10:03] I mean it,

[00:10:04] like it,

[00:10:05] it is on repeat when chaos comes.

[00:10:09] And it really was one of Dave Jones's adages

[00:10:12] that hammered the final nail in on prepper cam for me

[00:10:17] and it was too many firsts.

[00:10:19] You know what I mean?

[00:10:20] It was a too many firsts kind of situation.

[00:10:23] I kept looking at my travel plans,

[00:10:26] looking at the day,

[00:10:27] looking at the rain,

[00:10:28] looking at what people were saying.

[00:10:29] And I just,

[00:10:31] we had a situation that was far too many firsts for me,

[00:10:37] you know?

[00:10:38] So is what it is folks.

[00:10:41] I'm going to keep it short.

[00:10:42] This is not necessarily PBN daily news.

[00:10:44] I'm not doing a PBN daily news today.

[00:10:46] Um,

[00:10:48] I'm doing what I just did.

[00:10:50] I'm letting you know that the intrepid commander is on the couch.

[00:10:53] Uh,

[00:10:54] there are much bolder men and women out there at prepper camp right now.

[00:11:00] And what I hope,

[00:11:02] what my hope is and what my prayer was last night was that we can be laughed at in 2025.

[00:11:11] Right?

[00:11:13] Is that 2024 can go down in history as the year the intrepid commander wimped out of prepper camp

[00:11:19] and we all,

[00:11:21] uh,

[00:11:22] got a bunch of laughs,

[00:11:23] uh,

[00:11:25] off of them.

[00:11:27] That's the best possible outcome for me right now.

[00:11:30] You know what I mean?

[00:11:32] Something radical happens,

[00:11:34] storm shifts,

[00:11:35] gets knocked off course,

[00:11:36] everybody has a great prepper camp.

[00:11:38] I show up next year,

[00:11:40] they put a dunce cap on me,

[00:11:42] I make coffee

[00:11:43] and,

[00:11:43] uh,

[00:11:44] kiss their feet for the rest of the year in 2025.

[00:11:50] No,

[00:11:51] um,

[00:11:52] I'll have a great time and I think they'll have a great time too.

[00:11:54] I hope,

[00:11:55] you know,

[00:11:55] I hope and pray God cover our hosts with your grace,

[00:12:00] please protect them out there.

[00:12:04] Because if the weathermen are right,

[00:12:05] it's going to get wild.

[00:12:08] PBN family,

[00:12:09] I really do apologize,

[00:12:10] especially to all of you out there,

[00:12:11] listeners who may be making the journey or have made the journey and I won't get to see you.

[00:12:16] I know the Hatter was planning on going out there.

[00:12:18] I'd love to talk to him.

[00:12:19] There's tons of people I see every year that I'd love to talk to.

[00:12:22] I don't know if they're going,

[00:12:23] you know,

[00:12:24] whatever the situation may be,

[00:12:25] uh,

[00:12:26] if you had something planned or,

[00:12:28] you know,

[00:12:29] whatever the situation is,

[00:12:30] I do apologize.

[00:12:32] And,

[00:12:32] um,

[00:12:33] yeah,

[00:12:34] man,

[00:12:34] I hope,

[00:12:35] uh,

[00:12:37] I hope 2025 is a better year.

[00:12:39] You know,

[00:12:39] that's about all I can do.

[00:12:43] On that note,

[00:12:44] folks down below show description,

[00:12:46] lifetime membership until the 30th of this month for all.

[00:12:51] If you want to get involved in that.

[00:12:53] Um,

[00:12:56] yeah,

[00:12:56] I don't,

[00:12:57] I don't feel like doing self promotion at the moment.

[00:12:59] Not,

[00:13:00] not in the mood.

[00:13:01] All right.

[00:13:02] I'll talk to you guys.

[00:13:03] Uh,

[00:13:04] later today with Dave Jones,

[00:13:05] most likely.

[00:13:06] And,

[00:13:07] uh,

[00:13:07] tomorrow morning.

[00:13:08] Okay.

[00:13:08] Talk to you soon.

[00:13:09] PBN family,

[00:13:10] be safe out there.

[00:13:11] If you're heading,

[00:13:12] if you're traveling,

[00:13:12] whatever the situation is.

[00:13:14] And,

[00:13:15] uh,

[00:13:16] you know,

[00:13:16] if,

[00:13:16] if all goes well,

[00:13:17] write me hateful and searing and cynical and funny messages.

[00:13:22] That's what I'd like to hear.

[00:13:23] Okay.

[00:13:25] Talk to you soon,

[00:13:25] folks.

[00:13:26] Thank you for listening to the proper broadcasting network where we promote self.

[00:13:35] You're listening to PBN.

[00:13:40] You will pay us back to stability.

[00:13:43] The great PBN flood is upon us,

[00:14:05] folks.

[00:14:06] I,

[00:14:07] uh,

[00:14:07] have a feeling that it's almost barring,

[00:14:10] um,

[00:14:11] barring a major collapse that affects the entire planet or the entirety of the United States.

[00:14:17] Uh,

[00:14:17] uh,

[00:14:19] there may never be a,

[00:14:21] an imminent threat to so many of the PBN hosts as there is at this moment.

[00:14:30] So first and foremost,

[00:14:31] all kidding aside,

[00:14:33] uh,

[00:14:34] in your quiet time or your free time today,

[00:14:37] I ask that you say a prayer for the folks there in Saluda because,

[00:14:42] you know,

[00:14:43] we want them to be safe.

[00:14:44] We want them to get out in a timely manner,

[00:14:47] safely.

[00:14:48] The storm is not yet had its way with them completely.

[00:14:53] It looks to me like,

[00:14:55] uh,

[00:14:56] well,

[00:14:56] let me give it to you straight.

[00:14:58] I've been watching this thing.

[00:15:00] I told you yesterday by Thursday,

[00:15:03] midday.

[00:15:03] No,

[00:15:04] I'm sorry.

[00:15:04] Wednesday,

[00:15:05] midday.

[00:15:05] I knew I wasn't going.

[00:15:07] And I was very clear about that.

[00:15:09] Um,

[00:15:13] but since then,

[00:15:15] and even before then,

[00:15:17] I've become something like,

[00:15:19] uh,

[00:15:20] I don't know,

[00:15:21] like a neurotic parent.

[00:15:23] That's what I feel like.

[00:15:25] Since that moment,

[00:15:27] I have spent hours literally watching Asheville news,

[00:15:34] watching,

[00:15:34] uh,

[00:15:36] radar,

[00:15:36] watching newscasts to see what the hell was going to happen and when the hell it was going to happen.

[00:15:43] And now it's happening.

[00:15:44] And I'm still watching it.

[00:15:46] The scariest stuff is on Twitter.

[00:15:49] I seen a poor guy's house roof blow off in Asheville.

[00:15:53] Terrible.

[00:15:54] And,

[00:15:54] and,

[00:15:55] you know,

[00:15:55] now we're also getting information and updates from the ground there at prepper camp.

[00:16:02] You know,

[00:16:03] my number one concern right now is just that it,

[00:16:05] that it stops at two o'clock Friday.

[00:16:09] Friday.

[00:16:09] That's when it's supposed to really roll out of town.

[00:16:11] 2 p.m.

[00:16:13] Friday.

[00:16:14] Right?

[00:16:14] So,

[00:16:16] in whatever that is,

[00:16:18] five,

[00:16:18] six hours,

[00:16:18] it's gone.

[00:16:19] The sun comes out.

[00:16:21] And,

[00:16:23] those next two and a half days are,

[00:16:27] I just don't know the terrain and I don't know how it works,

[00:16:30] but I just hope that in the next two and a half days,

[00:16:34] the rising of the rivers happens and then the receding of the rivers happens.

[00:16:38] You know,

[00:16:38] because I know there's going to be,

[00:16:40] once this thing rolls through,

[00:16:42] there's going to be a time for cresting of rivers and all that.

[00:16:44] That's how any kind of flood situation works.

[00:16:48] And maybe that,

[00:16:49] you know,

[00:16:49] hopefully that's Saturday.

[00:16:51] Saturday,

[00:16:51] we get the high crests.

[00:16:54] Then things go down Sunday by Sunday evening when people are pulling out.

[00:17:00] That's what I'm hoping for.

[00:17:02] So,

[00:17:02] hope for that with me.

[00:17:05] Like I said,

[00:17:06] in your quiet time,

[00:17:07] pray for the PBN hosts up there on the mountain,

[00:17:10] that this thing,

[00:17:11] that we've seen essentially the worst of it,

[00:17:16] and that they'll make it home when they're supposed to make it home.

[00:17:22] Should I tell you my gut feeling?

[00:17:25] My gut feeling is that they're in for an extended stay in Saluda.

[00:17:29] That's my gut feeling.

[00:17:32] Hopefully that's wrong.

[00:17:33] Okay.

[00:17:35] I don't know the area as well.

[00:17:38] I don't know the alternate routes out of town.

[00:17:42] I've taken like two routes out of town.

[00:17:45] There's not a lot of routes into town.

[00:17:47] That's what makes me most nervous.

[00:17:49] You know,

[00:17:49] I don't know the direction everybody's going or what they're going to run into,

[00:17:52] but,

[00:17:53] you know,

[00:17:54] God willing to get out there Sunday,

[00:17:56] maybe midday or something like that.

[00:18:00] Because I don't know.

[00:18:01] I mean,

[00:18:02] tomorrow we'll see what the whole thing looks like.

[00:18:06] As a,

[00:18:06] sort of as,

[00:18:07] I think my responsibility in all honesty,

[00:18:10] at this point,

[00:18:12] as who I am,

[00:18:14] right?

[00:18:14] As the,

[00:18:15] as the intrepid,

[00:18:16] hold on,

[00:18:16] let me play the soundbite.

[00:18:17] I mean,

[00:18:18] I can finally play the soundbite at the right time.

[00:18:20] The intrepid commander.

[00:18:24] All jokes aside though,

[00:18:26] my responsibility at this point would be like,

[00:18:29] to seriously warn you not to go.

[00:18:34] Unless,

[00:18:34] I don't know,

[00:18:35] unless something changes dramatically on the landscape at Prepper Camp.

[00:18:43] Because right now the video's footage that I'm getting there is,

[00:18:46] it's not a place to go have an event right now.

[00:18:50] Who knows?

[00:18:51] You know,

[00:18:51] the drainage and all that.

[00:18:52] Hopefully it's,

[00:18:53] it's quick.

[00:18:54] And I,

[00:18:54] I'll pop on and let you know.

[00:18:56] I'll be getting videos and stuff.

[00:18:58] Once the sun comes out,

[00:18:59] once the rain stops,

[00:19:00] we'll see.

[00:19:01] You know what I mean?

[00:19:02] If things start to recede.

[00:19:04] And I'll definitely let,

[00:19:05] keep you up to date on what's going on at Orchard Lake Campground.

[00:19:11] But if it stays like it is now,

[00:19:13] and,

[00:19:13] and like I said,

[00:19:14] we got hours more of rain.

[00:19:16] Or if it gets worse.

[00:19:19] Me personally,

[00:19:20] I can't get up on the microphone and tell the listening audience,

[00:19:23] you should drive down there.

[00:19:25] You know what I mean?

[00:19:26] Because it just,

[00:19:27] it looks really bad right now.

[00:19:30] Eh,

[00:19:32] so yeah,

[00:19:33] thoughts and prayers.

[00:19:33] You know what I mean?

[00:19:34] Let's get these people home safe.

[00:19:36] They'll have stories to tell.

[00:19:38] The good thing is they've got each other.

[00:19:40] You know,

[00:19:40] the good thing is they've got the brotherhood.

[00:19:42] They're eating breakfast right now.

[00:19:43] The camaraderie.

[00:19:44] They're going through it together.

[00:19:45] And that's a plus.

[00:19:47] That's a plus.

[00:19:49] It's always good to see each other.

[00:19:52] Yeah.

[00:19:54] Another great reminder,

[00:19:56] Helene.

[00:19:57] You know,

[00:19:57] Helene,

[00:19:58] for those of us lucky enough to have escaped it,

[00:20:02] another great reminder,

[00:20:04] you know,

[00:20:04] of why we do what we do.

[00:20:06] And you should,

[00:20:06] if you're not getting blasted,

[00:20:08] you should do it too,

[00:20:09] right?

[00:20:10] You should,

[00:20:10] you should take this as an opportunity to say,

[00:20:13] you know,

[00:20:14] one thing that I always talk about that I think gets very little play in the

[00:20:19] prepper world.

[00:20:22] And I say it because I see it.

[00:20:24] You know,

[00:20:24] I say it because I see it.

[00:20:26] One of the things that gets very little play is evacuation.

[00:20:30] You know,

[00:20:31] I always feel like as Americans and maybe at large in the world,

[00:20:35] humans do a pretty bad job at evacuation.

[00:20:41] And,

[00:20:41] you know,

[00:20:42] life in limb is a thing,

[00:20:43] you know,

[00:20:44] so maybe shore that up this weekend,

[00:20:46] you know,

[00:20:47] in honor of what is happening and what so many people are going through.

[00:20:50] Look at your own plan and say,

[00:20:51] okay,

[00:20:52] if I was in this situation,

[00:20:53] if,

[00:20:54] if this hurricane turned this way or went that way and wound up coming to me,

[00:21:00] um,

[00:21:01] what would I do?

[00:21:03] What would my plan be?

[00:21:04] If I had to leave in the next 48 hours,

[00:21:06] what would I take?

[00:21:07] What could I do?

[00:21:08] You know,

[00:21:08] if I knew for a fact that my house would be underwater,

[00:21:12] what would you do?

[00:21:14] What would you take?

[00:21:15] I heard a real,

[00:21:15] my wife told me this morning about a family that,

[00:21:18] uh,

[00:21:20] did something that I thought was pretty interesting.

[00:21:22] You know,

[00:21:22] they were Floridians,

[00:21:23] so they were well-practiced.

[00:21:25] They were one of these Floridians that were clearly well-practiced in the art of

[00:21:28] evacuation.

[00:21:29] And they basically got movers and like storage,

[00:21:34] uh,

[00:21:35] for their appliances,

[00:21:37] you know,

[00:21:38] so they,

[00:21:38] they loaded up all their valuable things,

[00:21:41] uh,

[00:21:42] and,

[00:21:43] and took them,

[00:21:44] you know,

[00:21:44] to the high land to storage.

[00:21:45] And I'm talking,

[00:21:46] you know,

[00:21:47] all your expensive appliances,

[00:21:49] your $3,000 smart refrigerator,

[00:21:53] your range,

[00:21:54] you know,

[00:21:54] load that stuff up into trucks,

[00:21:56] drive it the hell out of there and drive it back.

[00:21:59] Again,

[00:22:00] that might seem extreme to you.

[00:22:02] Um,

[00:22:03] but I think it's important to contemplate these kinds of things and,

[00:22:07] and what you would do if you're in that situation.

[00:22:09] Right?

[00:22:13] Harris is headed to the border amid the chaos of what's happening on the East.

[00:22:17] Cause you know,

[00:22:18] she ain't going to be over here,

[00:22:19] right?

[00:22:19] She's,

[00:22:20] Harris saw the hurricane.

[00:22:22] She said,

[00:22:22] Oh crap.

[00:22:23] Now where can I go?

[00:22:24] California's a wreck.

[00:22:25] Now the East coast is a wreck.

[00:22:26] I guess I'll head down to the,

[00:22:28] I'll head down to the border.

[00:22:29] I got to do it.

[00:22:31] So she heads Friday to the U S Mexico border in Arizona,

[00:22:34] looking to recharge her candidacy in a key battleground state where she's losing

[00:22:38] ground to a former president,

[00:22:40] Donald Trump.

[00:22:41] Look,

[00:22:41] this is all I'm going to say about you border States.

[00:22:44] Okay.

[00:22:44] If any of you border States vote Democrat,

[00:22:48] uh,

[00:22:49] I might secede from you.

[00:22:51] You know what I'm saying?

[00:22:52] It might,

[00:22:54] it might be better if you just join Mexico because I have no,

[00:22:58] I just have no.

[00:23:00] And of course we have to assume that the numbers that come in are actually the

[00:23:04] numbers,

[00:23:05] but who in their right mind could be living in Arizona,

[00:23:07] New Mexico,

[00:23:08] Texas,

[00:23:09] and saying to themselves,

[00:23:11] yeah,

[00:23:12] let's,

[00:23:12] let's vote Democrat.

[00:23:13] They'll take care of this border situation.

[00:23:15] It's been great.

[00:23:16] The last four years,

[00:23:17] we've got a lot of new friends.

[00:23:19] They sleep on our front yard.

[00:23:20] They sleep in our pools.

[00:23:22] They,

[00:23:23] every so often they just come in the front door.

[00:23:27] So yeah,

[00:23:28] I'll have no,

[00:23:28] uh,

[00:23:29] I'll have no sympathy for you guys.

[00:23:31] If you,

[00:23:31] if you decide to pull the trigger for Harris down there in her remark,

[00:23:37] she's expected to slam Trump for encouraging Republican Senator.

[00:23:40] Oh yeah.

[00:23:40] Yeah.

[00:23:41] That's her.

[00:23:41] That's her only,

[00:23:43] that's the only weapon she has.

[00:23:44] She has one weapon at the border on in the border conversation.

[00:23:50] And it's this idea that Donald Trump like forced all the Republicans to not

[00:23:55] vote for the border bill.

[00:23:57] And then she can somehow string this like paper mache connection between that

[00:24:04] and the border crisis.

[00:24:06] Now,

[00:24:07] granted that bill didn't even come to fruition until Joe Biden was just about to

[00:24:13] be,

[00:24:14] you know,

[00:24:15] essentially campaigning again.

[00:24:16] Remember?

[00:24:17] It was like the spring of 24,

[00:24:21] the spring of 24,

[00:24:23] Joe Biden woke up from a deep sleep and was like,

[00:24:25] Oh,

[00:24:26] we better get something done on this border three years into it.

[00:24:29] Three and a half.

[00:24:31] It was laughable.

[00:24:32] The timing was,

[00:24:33] the timing was to make you more of an idiot.

[00:24:38] That's what the timing was.

[00:24:39] The timing was,

[00:24:41] let's give these idiots something.

[00:24:43] To get excited about it.

[00:24:44] The border.

[00:24:45] Cause you know,

[00:24:45] I've let them run rough shot for the last three and a half years.

[00:24:49] I've destroyed everything that was done beforehand.

[00:24:52] And I've let these guys run rough shot.

[00:24:53] So let's give the idiots a little cookie and then they'll vote for me again.

[00:25:00] That's exactly what that whole bipartisan border bill was about.

[00:25:04] It wasn't about protecting you.

[00:25:06] They're already here.

[00:25:07] Trend de Agua was already here when he'd signed that bill.

[00:25:13] Or when he proposed that bill,

[00:25:14] whatever.

[00:25:15] So she's going to go down there and she's going to try to say that the whole border thing,

[00:25:18] if only Donald Trump had not pressured the Republican senators three and a half years into our administration to do something about the border,

[00:25:26] then it would have been a much better situation down there.

[00:25:29] And really it's just a mean white man doing his thing.

[00:25:32] And,

[00:25:32] uh,

[00:25:33] you know,

[00:25:34] vote for me.

[00:25:35] I'll give you a free,

[00:25:37] free,

[00:25:37] free homes and free money and free drugs.

[00:25:40] And I'll give you free this and free that.

[00:25:43] And we'll figure out how to convince you because we know you're dumb.

[00:25:47] We'll figure out how to convince you that we're going to tax you at a higher rate and give you more quote unquote free stuff.

[00:25:54] Yeah,

[00:25:55] that sounds good.

[00:25:59] It's a wild world out there,

[00:26:01] PBN.

[00:26:02] I hope you're enjoying your time on it though,

[00:26:05] because,

[00:26:05] uh,

[00:26:06] we have,

[00:26:07] but a short dance in the sun.

[00:26:09] I'm not going to go on and on tonight.

[00:26:12] Oh,

[00:26:12] I'm sorry,

[00:26:12] today,

[00:26:13] tonight.

[00:26:14] Uh,

[00:26:14] I do want to introduce you to something though.

[00:26:17] I wasn't actually planning on doing this,

[00:26:19] but I'm very excited.

[00:26:22] I got to throw their freaking link in my show description.

[00:26:25] What a dummy.

[00:26:27] I never heard of these guys till about a month ago.

[00:26:30] In all clarity.

[00:26:32] Uh,

[00:26:33] these are,

[00:26:33] you know,

[00:26:34] you stumble into companies that are,

[00:26:38] unbelievable.

[00:26:39] All right.

[00:26:41] I found a company called Pack Fresh USA,

[00:26:45] the most trusted preservation and packaging manufacturer in the U.S.

[00:26:50] They are direct from,

[00:26:52] uh,

[00:26:52] direct from,

[00:26:53] um,

[00:26:55] manufacturer.

[00:26:56] Is that the word I'm looking for?

[00:26:59] Anyhow,

[00:27:00] these guys,

[00:27:01] their business is,

[00:27:03] Mylar bags,

[00:27:04] Mylar gusset bags,

[00:27:05] vacuum sealer bags,

[00:27:07] food safe,

[00:27:08] desiccants,

[00:27:09] you know,

[00:27:09] oxygen absorbers,

[00:27:10] all that kind of stuff.

[00:27:11] This is,

[00:27:11] this is what they do.

[00:27:12] Heat sealers,

[00:27:13] heavy duty standup pouches.

[00:27:18] Packfreshusa.com is a new sponsor here at the Prepper Broadcasting Network.

[00:27:22] Literally just yesterday,

[00:27:23] we signed the agreements and everything.

[00:27:25] They're direct from manufacturer shipping.

[00:27:28] They do incredible prices.

[00:27:30] That,

[00:27:31] what I think is probably the coolest.

[00:27:33] Oh,

[00:27:33] and,

[00:27:33] and for the hosts who are listening,

[00:27:36] if you're out there listening,

[00:27:37] don't worry,

[00:27:37] I'll contact you all.

[00:27:40] Anyway,

[00:27:41] but if you're out there and you're listening,

[00:27:43] um,

[00:27:45] we're going to send you some stuff.

[00:27:46] We're going to send you some really cool stuff.

[00:27:48] The 100 pack.

[00:27:50] Okay.

[00:27:50] I want you guys to listen to this.

[00:27:52] This is going to go to,

[00:27:54] um,

[00:27:55] the PBN hosts,

[00:27:57] but I also want you guys to listen because it's a very cool pack.

[00:27:59] I like the hosts to get some of our sponsors goods.

[00:28:03] Cause then they can speak to it.

[00:28:04] You know what I mean?

[00:28:07] This guy.

[00:28:09] Is a,

[00:28:10] uh,

[00:28:10] 100 pack.

[00:28:12] And it comes with 31 gallon bags,

[00:28:17] 41 quart Mylar,

[00:28:18] but these are Mylar bags,

[00:28:19] heat sealable Mylar bags,

[00:28:21] um,

[00:28:22] 31 gallons,

[00:28:23] 41 quart,

[00:28:24] 31 pint.

[00:28:25] It comes with a gang of oxygen absorbers,

[00:28:28] 30,

[00:28:29] 50,

[00:28:29] 3,500 CC,

[00:28:31] 4,300 CC,

[00:28:32] 3,100 CC.

[00:28:35] How many labels does it come with?

[00:28:36] It comes with a collection of labels.

[00:28:38] Let me give you a number on labels,

[00:28:41] a hundred adhesive labels.

[00:28:42] Well,

[00:28:42] that makes sense.

[00:28:43] A hundred bags,

[00:28:43] a hundred labels.

[00:28:45] Um,

[00:28:45] um,

[00:28:47] oh,

[00:28:47] you get a free mini bag sealer with purchase.

[00:28:50] Get a free little heat sealer with the purchase.

[00:28:53] Holy moly.

[00:28:54] Check that out.

[00:28:56] Anyhow,

[00:28:56] uh,

[00:28:57] and you get a,

[00:28:57] like a,

[00:28:58] a preservation guide to the pack fresh USA long-term food storage guide.

[00:29:02] See,

[00:29:02] they have an entire prepper university on their pack fresh USA website.

[00:29:07] Like they know what time it is.

[00:29:09] All right.

[00:29:10] Check them out.

[00:29:11] Pack fresh USA.com.

[00:29:12] You'll be hearing much more about them.

[00:29:15] Um,

[00:29:15] I'm going to get on with my Friday folks.

[00:29:17] It's nine 30 here on the East coast and I got a big day.

[00:29:22] Uh,

[00:29:23] got some non-negotiables.

[00:29:24] I got to get out of the way.

[00:29:26] And then I want to enjoy Friday evening,

[00:29:28] get into a great weekend.

[00:29:30] And yeah,

[00:29:33] that's my game plan.

[00:29:34] I hope you guys have a good weekend as well.

[00:29:37] You may hear from me a little more.

[00:29:38] Like I said,

[00:29:39] as conditions change in salute,

[00:29:41] I'll give you a heads up.

[00:29:42] I'll let you know who's dead and who's alive.

[00:29:44] Just kidding.

[00:29:44] I'll let you know who,

[00:29:47] I'll let you know how it goes.

[00:29:48] You know,

[00:29:48] like I said,

[00:29:49] I hope these waters recede and they can somehow figure out a way to

[00:29:54] cobble together a safe,

[00:29:57] um,

[00:29:58] an effective prepper camp,

[00:29:59] maybe even just on a Sunday,

[00:30:01] but let's see,

[00:30:02] you know,

[00:30:02] I'll keep you up to date until then.

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[00:30:08] You're running out of time.

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[00:30:26] God,

[00:30:26] I wish I could go back and tell him,

[00:30:29] you know,

[00:30:29] tell him I've saw the future.

[00:30:31] But anyway,

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[00:30:36] it's basically like 20 minutes of Q and a on quail,

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[00:30:47] Even if you think that quail aren't for you,

[00:30:50] please listen to it because it is,

[00:30:52] it's right from the horse's mouth.

[00:30:54] It'll make its way to the broadcast airwaves as a podcast.

[00:30:59] Um,

[00:30:59] but the members are going to get first shot at it.

[00:31:03] That's part of the benefit.

[00:31:04] You know what I mean?

[00:31:05] Um,

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[00:31:08] I appreciate you guys support our great sponsors.

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[00:31:16] Troy is a really great guy.

[00:31:18] And,

[00:31:18] and that man had almost everything that could happen to a guy preparing for an event happened to him.

[00:31:25] It was rough.

[00:31:27] I was getting emails about sort of his struggles as far back as like Monday,

[00:31:33] I think.

[00:31:34] And he's probably kind of happy that he didn't drive from Wisconsin now with a trailer full of heavy things.

[00:31:40] to prepper camp.

[00:31:42] But at the same time,

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[00:32:06] All right.

[00:32:06] I'm not running any ads.

[00:32:07] I just did enough ads for the day.

[00:32:09] I will talk to you guys soon.

[00:32:11] See ya.

[00:32:36] Obviously,

[00:32:37] it's been a rough week here.

[00:32:40] We are by no means recovered from Hurricane Helene.

[00:32:46] And it will be a year at least before parts of the,

[00:32:52] well,

[00:32:52] like the main parts of the county,

[00:32:54] the places people visit,

[00:32:57] like,

[00:32:57] you know,

[00:32:58] whether it's tourism or like if you have to go to the county seat to go to the courthouse or do your banking or something,

[00:33:03] it'll probably be a year before Newland,

[00:33:06] North Carolina looks normal.

[00:33:08] And out in the rural communities where entire families were swept away and killed by the flood,

[00:33:16] entire homes went down river,

[00:33:19] entire neighborhoods disappeared,

[00:33:22] you know,

[00:33:23] covered in,

[00:33:23] buried in mud.

[00:33:25] It will be years.

[00:33:27] We'll be finding bodies for years.

[00:33:30] So,

[00:33:31] keep us in your prayers,

[00:33:33] please.

[00:33:34] Most of Avery County still does not have any power or cell service or running water.

[00:33:42] And the federal government is making things so much worse.

[00:33:47] You know,

[00:33:48] yeah,

[00:33:48] the National Guards helped stop the looting and everything,

[00:33:52] but FEMA's not allowing private citizens to come in and help anymore.

[00:33:58] And,

[00:33:59] you know,

[00:34:00] we got temperatures going down to the 30s next week.

[00:34:03] People are going to starve to death.

[00:34:04] People are going to freeze.

[00:34:06] Thanks to the federal government,

[00:34:08] who is stopping private citizens from coming in and helping the people of Appalachia.

[00:34:14] And you notice when you turn on the television and listen to one of these like FEMA briefings or somebody in D.C.,

[00:34:20] they don't even know how to pronounce Appalachian.

[00:34:23] You know,

[00:34:23] it is Appalachian.

[00:34:25] It's not Appalachian.

[00:34:26] Okay.

[00:34:27] Appalachian is actually a somewhat of an insult.

[00:34:31] It's actually an intentional,

[00:34:34] pronouncing that way began as an intentional insult to the people of Appalachia.

[00:34:40] It's like,

[00:34:41] you know,

[00:34:41] we're the educated Yankees and y'all are,

[00:34:44] you know,

[00:34:44] poor dumb hillbillies.

[00:34:46] It is actually Appalachia.

[00:34:49] You should know that because you're listening to the Southern Appalachian Herbs show.

[00:34:54] But I'll move on to the plants.

[00:34:56] You know,

[00:34:56] you got to focus.

[00:34:57] I mean,

[00:34:57] I keep trying to talk with people.

[00:35:00] You know,

[00:35:01] you got some that are still in shock.

[00:35:04] You got some that are experiencing a lot of anxiety.

[00:35:09] And so,

[00:35:10] you know,

[00:35:10] I've been recommending ashwagandha to people.

[00:35:12] You know,

[00:35:13] they are actually allowing us to go to the grocery stores now.

[00:35:16] So you can buy ashwagandha from two of our local grocery stores,

[00:35:20] which is nice.

[00:35:21] And the drugstore in the county seat downtown.

[00:35:24] When I say downtown,

[00:35:26] okay,

[00:35:26] there's one stoplight.

[00:35:27] Okay.

[00:35:27] I mean,

[00:35:27] it's,

[00:35:27] it's a town of like,

[00:35:28] I think 4,000 people,

[00:35:30] you know,

[00:35:31] so,

[00:35:31] but anyway,

[00:35:32] we do have a couple of grocery stores and we do have a drugstore.

[00:35:36] Valerian,

[00:35:37] of course,

[00:35:37] if you can take Valerian,

[00:35:38] some people have an issue with,

[00:35:39] some people have an issue with ashwagandha and it's usually gives them nightmares.

[00:35:44] But the best thing you can do,

[00:35:46] say a prayer,

[00:35:47] hope for the best and focus,

[00:35:49] focus on something pleasant,

[00:35:51] something to distract you.

[00:35:52] I mean,

[00:35:53] do the work you got to do,

[00:35:54] you know,

[00:35:54] clean up your yard,

[00:35:55] clean up your road,

[00:35:56] try to recover from the storm,

[00:35:58] but find something enjoyable,

[00:36:02] a funny movie.

[00:36:03] I know this sounds stupid,

[00:36:05] but it will really keep you sane.

[00:36:08] I mean,

[00:36:09] I play my mandolin every day for about an hour while I'm listening to the news headlines in the morning and play a little guitar before I go to bed at night.

[00:36:19] But the main thing,

[00:36:20] actually,

[00:36:21] it's kind of funny.

[00:36:23] you know,

[00:36:24] I am one of the few around here actually getting a little internet and I can download videos from YouTube.

[00:37:00] And it's not something I would normally do,

[00:37:01] I mean,

[00:37:02] check out this lineup.

[00:37:03] The Bee Gees,

[00:37:05] Gladys Knight and the Pips,

[00:37:07] Jerry Lee Lewis,

[00:37:08] all on the same show.

[00:37:09] I mean,

[00:37:10] I'm a huge fan of all three.

[00:37:12] I'm blanking out on the other guy that was on there.

[00:37:14] And that's a shame.

[00:37:15] He was really good.

[00:37:16] He was one of the first people to popularize reggae.

[00:37:19] You may remember his song,

[00:37:20] I can see clearly now the rain is gone.

[00:37:22] He did that one.

[00:37:23] That's classic.

[00:37:24] And then he did a Bob Marley song,

[00:37:26] you know,

[00:37:26] before anybody knew who Bob Marley was.

[00:37:29] The night before that,

[00:37:30] I think it was Ray Charles,

[00:37:33] Aretha Franklin,

[00:37:34] and Earl Scruggs.

[00:37:36] So,

[00:37:36] I mean,

[00:37:36] these lineups are like crazy diverse.

[00:37:39] And I mean,

[00:37:40] nobody would put a show together like that anymore.

[00:37:42] You know,

[00:37:43] this is,

[00:37:43] yeah,

[00:37:44] it was still that kind of way when I was a kid,

[00:37:45] you turn on like top 40 radio and it wouldn't be all one genre of music.

[00:37:50] You'd hear some rock,

[00:37:51] you'd hear some country,

[00:37:52] you'd hear some soul music.

[00:37:53] And I always thought that was great as a kid.

[00:37:55] I guess that changed really in the nineties.

[00:37:58] I mean,

[00:37:58] by 2000,

[00:37:59] everything was so stratified into categories of strict genres that people that listen to one genre of music never hear another genre.

[00:38:08] And that is such a shame.

[00:38:10] I mean,

[00:38:10] I,

[00:38:11] you know,

[00:38:11] I grew up listening to,

[00:38:13] oh,

[00:38:13] I mean,

[00:38:14] so much Motown and soul music.

[00:38:15] That was my mom's favorite thing.

[00:38:17] Motown and soul music.

[00:38:18] Plus Southern rock,

[00:38:20] a lot of Allman Brothers,

[00:38:21] Janis Joplin.

[00:38:22] She was a huge Janis Joplin fan.

[00:38:24] And,

[00:38:25] um,

[00:38:26] uh,

[00:38:26] plus,

[00:38:27] you know,

[00:38:27] country music,

[00:38:28] jazz,

[00:38:29] um,

[00:38:30] rock.

[00:38:31] I mean,

[00:38:31] there was tons of rock on.

[00:38:33] And I mean,

[00:38:33] um,

[00:38:34] the,

[00:38:34] the older kids were really into punk rock.

[00:38:36] So I grew up with a huge love of punk rock.

[00:38:39] And,

[00:38:39] um,

[00:38:40] after that,

[00:38:40] it was the,

[00:38:41] um,

[00:38:42] Oh,

[00:38:42] what do we call it?

[00:38:43] New wave music,

[00:38:44] the eighties,

[00:38:44] you know,

[00:38:45] like the music from the breakfast club.

[00:38:46] That's phenomenal music.

[00:38:49] There was,

[00:38:49] you know,

[00:38:50] a little bit of disco.

[00:38:51] There was a lot of,

[00:38:53] um,

[00:38:54] gosh,

[00:38:55] bluegrass,

[00:38:56] uh,

[00:38:56] little,

[00:38:57] sometimes there'd be like some Tejano music on.

[00:38:59] I mean,

[00:38:59] beach music.

[00:39:00] That's huge in North Carolina.

[00:39:02] That's a beach music was born in the Carolinas.

[00:39:06] So,

[00:39:06] I mean,

[00:39:06] you know,

[00:39:06] shagging at the beach.

[00:39:08] That's what people love to do around here.

[00:39:10] Uh,

[00:39:10] you know,

[00:39:11] not really in the mountains,

[00:39:11] but that's a little coastal thing.

[00:39:13] Uh,

[00:39:13] you know,

[00:39:15] anyway,

[00:39:15] I miss that,

[00:39:16] uh,

[00:39:17] mix of music and these midnight special shows are fun.

[00:39:19] So if you're looking for a distraction,

[00:39:21] I,

[00:39:21] I'm just saying it's really important for your mental health.

[00:39:25] If you're not resting your mind,

[00:39:28] you're going to burn out.

[00:39:29] And if you're getting anxious and every time it rains,

[00:39:32] you start having a panic attack or something,

[00:39:34] that's not going to help anybody.

[00:39:36] So my advice,

[00:39:37] if you're in one of these affected areas or something like this comes down the

[00:39:41] road,

[00:39:41] always remember,

[00:39:42] put on a funny movie,

[00:39:44] grab a Marx Brothers movie,

[00:39:45] listen to some music,

[00:39:47] find some,

[00:39:48] if it's just for 15 minutes,

[00:39:50] distract your mind and give yourself a mental rest.

[00:39:54] And there are herbs,

[00:39:55] like I said,

[00:39:56] ashwagandha,

[00:39:57] valerian,

[00:39:59] skullcap,

[00:39:59] passion flower,

[00:40:01] so many herbs that can help kind of relax you and deal with the situation

[00:40:06] because,

[00:40:07] you know,

[00:40:08] uh,

[00:40:08] I mean,

[00:40:08] we're,

[00:40:09] we're,

[00:40:09] we're really kind of sitting here thinking nobody's coming to help us.

[00:40:14] If we don't do it on our own,

[00:40:15] we're all going to die because,

[00:40:18] I mean,

[00:40:19] like I said,

[00:40:19] it's going to the thirties this week and,

[00:40:21] you know,

[00:40:22] people don't have heat.

[00:40:25] People don't have electricity.

[00:40:26] People don't even have running water.

[00:40:28] And it,

[00:40:29] you know,

[00:40:29] at least the road main roads are open now so we can get to the grocery store.

[00:40:33] But if you're down a back mountain road,

[00:40:35] you,

[00:40:35] you're probably getting close to starving at this point and nobody's helping us.

[00:40:40] I mean,

[00:40:42] woohoo.

[00:40:42] Biden says we can have $750 direct deposit into your bank account.

[00:40:47] Well,

[00:40:47] that's great.

[00:40:48] Isn't it?

[00:40:48] What if your bank's closed?

[00:40:50] The ATMs are off.

[00:40:51] You can't withdraw the money and your phone doesn't work because there's no cell coverage.

[00:40:56] How does that help somebody down a mountain road?

[00:40:59] Now it's going to help.

[00:41:00] It's going to help a lot of people.

[00:41:01] And eventually,

[00:41:02] I mean,

[00:41:02] you know,

[00:41:03] immediate help,

[00:41:04] immediate help was all these private citizens flying in and doing airdrops of groceries and bottled water.

[00:41:09] And for some reason,

[00:41:11] FEMA and the National Guard are not allowing private citizens to do that in many areas.

[00:41:17] Now,

[00:41:18] in some areas they probably are.

[00:41:19] Our horrible jackass Senator Tom Tillis,

[00:41:25] I mean,

[00:41:25] who is nothing but a pure sellout from day one.

[00:41:29] I mean,

[00:41:29] I actually called his office one time as a constituents asking,

[00:41:33] saying,

[00:41:34] could you please ask the Senator to vote this way on a certain legislation?

[00:41:37] And the person who answered the phone cussed me out.

[00:41:40] I mean,

[00:41:41] I was,

[00:41:41] I was polite.

[00:41:42] You know me,

[00:41:42] I'm polite,

[00:41:43] right?

[00:41:43] Sir,

[00:41:44] cussing me out.

[00:41:44] This is our U.S.

[00:41:46] Senator.

[00:41:46] Well,

[00:41:46] he's over there in Asheville just praising FEMA.

[00:41:49] Oh,

[00:41:49] they're doing a great job.

[00:41:50] Yeah,

[00:41:51] they're not.

[00:41:53] And,

[00:41:53] um,

[00:41:54] I hope,

[00:41:54] uh,

[00:41:54] I don't care.

[00:41:55] I don't care.

[00:41:55] I mean,

[00:41:56] he's a Republican.

[00:41:56] Uh,

[00:41:57] he's worse than any Democrat we've ever had in that office.

[00:42:00] He's worse than,

[00:42:01] I don't care if he's a flag waving Marxist.

[00:42:04] I,

[00:42:05] I take a flag waving Marxist who was honest and actually cared about his constituents over Tom Tillis any day.

[00:42:11] He's been a sellout from day one.

[00:42:13] He was essentially installed by the chamber of commerce and the national Republican party.

[00:42:19] And,

[00:42:20] uh,

[00:42:20] he's does not care at all about the people of North Carolina.

[00:42:24] And I'm telling you,

[00:42:25] he is the sorriest piece of crap sitting in Washington,

[00:42:30] D.C.

[00:42:31] And,

[00:42:32] um,

[00:42:33] yeah,

[00:42:33] I'm serious.

[00:42:34] He,

[00:42:34] I called just,

[00:42:35] could you please ask the Senator to vote this way?

[00:42:38] And the person started cussing me out.

[00:42:40] I said,

[00:42:40] wait a minute,

[00:42:40] I'm a taxpayer.

[00:42:42] I'm a voter.

[00:42:44] He works for me.

[00:42:45] And they said,

[00:42:45] no,

[00:42:45] it doesn't work that way.

[00:42:46] He doesn't work for you.

[00:42:48] And I'm like,

[00:42:49] no,

[00:42:49] I'm a,

[00:42:49] I,

[00:42:49] I'm a resident of North Carolina.

[00:42:51] He's my Senator.

[00:42:52] I don't care.

[00:42:52] And I don't work for you either.

[00:42:54] And starts chewing me out.

[00:42:56] That's,

[00:42:57] that's the person sticking up for FEMA.

[00:43:00] So,

[00:43:00] um,

[00:43:02] yeah.

[00:43:03] Anyway,

[00:43:03] now let's get on to the herbs.

[00:43:05] Uh,

[00:43:05] I mean that,

[00:43:06] uh,

[00:43:06] let me tell you when Jesse Helms was in that seat,

[00:43:11] I could call up Senator Helms and he would do,

[00:43:13] anything,

[00:43:15] anything.

[00:43:16] He was a friend of my grandfather's.

[00:43:17] He knew my family name.

[00:43:19] Um,

[00:43:21] boom,

[00:43:21] taken care of.

[00:43:23] When there were,

[00:43:24] uh,

[00:43:26] what was her name?

[00:43:26] Kay Hagan.

[00:43:27] She was responsive.

[00:43:29] She was a Democrat.

[00:43:30] Um,

[00:43:30] gosh,

[00:43:31] uh,

[00:43:31] blue,

[00:43:32] uh,

[00:43:32] so many people have filled the two Senate seats here in North Carolina.

[00:43:35] I can't remember,

[00:43:36] you know,

[00:43:36] they say they took somebody seat,

[00:43:38] uh,

[00:43:38] you know,

[00:43:39] it's interchangeable.

[00:43:40] Um,

[00:43:41] no,

[00:43:42] Tom Tillis does not represent the people of North Carolina.

[00:43:45] He represents the chamber of commerce and,

[00:43:48] uh,

[00:43:48] interests in Washington,

[00:43:49] DC,

[00:43:50] um,

[00:43:50] military industrial complex,

[00:43:53] big money.

[00:43:54] Um,

[00:43:56] yeah.

[00:43:56] I mean,

[00:43:57] his whole goal of being in that office is to flood the country with illegal immigrants

[00:44:01] to work basically slave labor jobs for big corporations.

[00:44:05] He's a total 100% sellout.

[00:44:09] And I mean,

[00:44:10] I would put,

[00:44:10] I'd rather have a dog in that office than Tom Tillis.

[00:44:14] I have much more respect for dogs,

[00:44:16] as you know.

[00:44:17] All right,

[00:44:18] now let's get into herbs.

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[00:44:55] Welcome back to the Changing Earth Podcast with author Sarah F. Hathaway and co-host Chen Gibson.

[00:45:03] Blending survival fiction and fact

[00:45:05] to bring you entertaining education

[00:45:07] that will help you dream,

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[00:45:11] And now,

[00:45:12] here's your host,

[00:45:14] Sarah F. Hathaway and Chen Gibson.

[00:45:18] Hello and welcome back to the Changing Earth Podcast.

[00:45:22] This is episode number 466.

[00:45:26] And we got one heck of a show for you guys today.

[00:45:29] We are one week past prepper camp today.

[00:45:33] Hurricane Helene came in and,

[00:45:35] uh,

[00:45:36] hit us all,

[00:45:37] uh,

[00:45:37] while we were at prepper camp.

[00:45:39] By the grace of God,

[00:45:40] we only had a couple of trees come down on the whole property.

[00:45:43] It was chaos all around us.

[00:45:45] But we had a lot of the PBN hosts out there,

[00:45:48] so we thought it'd be a fun show to have everybody on.

[00:45:51] Well,

[00:45:51] not everybody that was there,

[00:45:52] but we tried to get a lot of us together.

[00:45:55] So,

[00:45:56] I've got,

[00:45:56] um,

[00:45:57] first up,

[00:45:57] Ryan Buford's here with us.

[00:45:59] Hey,

[00:45:59] Ryan,

[00:45:59] what's going on?

[00:46:03] Hey,

[00:46:04] how we doing?

[00:46:04] It's great to see you,

[00:46:05] hear you again,

[00:46:06] anyway.

[00:46:07] Yeah,

[00:46:07] yeah,

[00:46:07] we're not worrying about,

[00:46:08] um,

[00:46:08] not getting out this Sunday.

[00:46:11] Yeah,

[00:46:11] right.

[00:46:11] That's kind of nice.

[00:46:13] We got old Douglas Hogan in the house.

[00:46:16] How are you,

[00:46:16] Doug?

[00:46:18] What's up,

[00:46:19] Sarah?

[00:46:19] I'm well,

[00:46:20] how are you?

[00:46:20] I'm doing good.

[00:46:21] I'm doing good.

[00:46:22] I finally got to calm down a little bit on Friday,

[00:46:24] so it was a good day.

[00:46:25] And of course,

[00:46:26] you know,

[00:46:27] I always let the ladies go first,

[00:46:28] so that's why we had Ryan and Doug up first.

[00:46:32] Thanks,

[00:46:32] Sarah.

[00:46:32] I appreciate that.

[00:46:33] Hey,

[00:46:33] you know,

[00:46:34] so we've got,

[00:46:35] uh,

[00:46:36] Jordan Smith in the house.

[00:46:37] Hey,

[00:46:37] Jordan.

[00:46:38] Hey,

[00:46:39] y'all.

[00:46:40] And we got JB

[00:46:41] in the house.

[00:46:43] I'm going to get up my live chat here.

[00:46:45] So,

[00:46:46] hi,

[00:46:46] JB.

[00:46:46] How are you?

[00:46:48] I'm fantastic.

[00:46:49] You're home.

[00:46:51] You were like the last one,

[00:46:52] first one in and last one out.

[00:46:55] You guys got to give JB a hand because,

[00:46:58] oh my gosh,

[00:46:59] crazy experience.

[00:47:00] Yeah,

[00:47:00] I think she just got home.

[00:47:03] Yeah.

[00:47:04] When did you get home,

[00:47:05] uh,

[00:47:07] Friday?

[00:47:08] Yeah.

[00:47:08] Got home on Friday.

[00:47:09] Friday.

[00:47:09] And when did you first start doing runs out for,

[00:47:13] um,

[00:47:14] gear and stuff for prepper camp this year?

[00:47:18] Two weeks before the event.

[00:47:20] Two weeks before.

[00:47:22] So this has been quite a month for you.

[00:47:24] Quite a month.

[00:47:25] Definitely.

[00:47:26] An adventure.

[00:47:27] Do it again.

[00:47:28] All right.

[00:47:29] So let's just go around and we'll just kind of talk about,

[00:47:32] you know,

[00:47:32] before,

[00:47:33] um,

[00:47:34] prepper camp,

[00:47:35] I was watching the weather for days and,

[00:47:38] uh,

[00:47:38] it was clear.

[00:47:39] It was going to be sunny.

[00:47:41] It was going to be beautiful.

[00:47:42] And,

[00:47:43] uh,

[00:47:43] wasn't nothing in our way.

[00:47:44] And then this disturbance starts in the Gulf.

[00:47:47] So just some of your guys' thoughts on like what you were thinking.

[00:47:51] Um,

[00:47:52] you know,

[00:47:52] we all still showed up.

[00:47:54] Some people did it.

[00:47:54] And,

[00:47:55] just some of your thoughts on,

[00:47:57] uh,

[00:47:57] how that process was for you.

[00:47:59] Go ahead,

[00:48:00] Ryan,

[00:48:00] start us off.

[00:48:02] So,

[00:48:02] yeah,

[00:48:03] I also watched for several weeks ahead of time.

[00:48:05] I booked my flight.

[00:48:06] And so I flew in from Washington state and I booked my flight back in,

[00:48:11] I don't know,

[00:48:11] February in my hotel and maybe May or June.

[00:48:15] Um,

[00:48:16] cause I flew into Charlotte and then caught a ride to get over to prepper camp.

[00:48:19] But I was watching the weather and really paying attention,

[00:48:22] especially the,

[00:48:23] the 10 day forecast.

[00:48:24] Cause that was going to dictate my gear that I was going to bring in and

[00:48:28] changes in that regard.

[00:48:29] So,

[00:48:30] yeah,

[00:48:30] I was definitely expecting rain this year,

[00:48:33] but nothing like what we got at all.

[00:48:36] Um,

[00:48:37] so I def,

[00:48:37] I had to change out some of my pack and,

[00:48:40] and make sure that I had the right gear on hand to,

[00:48:42] to make it through the weekend for sure.

[00:48:45] How about you,

[00:48:46] Doug coming in from a Midwestern boy there.

[00:48:52] I need to change the microphone up.

[00:48:54] Can you hear me all right?

[00:48:55] Yep.

[00:48:56] Yeah,

[00:48:56] we can hear you good.

[00:48:57] Okay.

[00:48:58] Um,

[00:48:58] no.

[00:48:59] So yeah,

[00:48:59] I mean,

[00:49:00] we knew,

[00:49:00] we knew in advance,

[00:49:01] uh,

[00:49:02] that,

[00:49:02] that this,

[00:49:02] this,

[00:49:03] uh,

[00:49:03] this beast was coming in.

[00:49:04] Um,

[00:49:05] didn't know how crazy it was going to be.

[00:49:07] I,

[00:49:07] you know,

[00:49:07] I knew that it was coming inland.

[00:49:09] Usually these things don't,

[00:49:10] don't go so far.

[00:49:12] They kind of break up and turn into a tropical storm before they get,

[00:49:14] you know,

[00:49:15] usually beyond,

[00:49:16] you know,

[00:49:17] Florida or whatever.

[00:49:18] Um,

[00:49:19] this one had a little bit more juice behind it.

[00:49:21] You can look at the conspiracy theories and,

[00:49:22] you know,

[00:49:23] maybe see how they were saying some of this stuff was,

[00:49:25] uh,

[00:49:26] was coerced,

[00:49:27] whether it was coerced a little bit and it seemed to linger.

[00:49:29] I know as,

[00:49:30] as we,

[00:49:31] as we were there,

[00:49:32] I could see that it was,

[00:49:33] cause you know,

[00:49:33] our signals were,

[00:49:34] were in and out.

[00:49:35] And I just feel that it kind of lingered a little bit longer than it should

[00:49:39] have.

[00:49:39] It should have been pushing on,

[00:49:40] just kind of almost set in one spot and just kind of spun,

[00:49:44] uh,

[00:49:45] over us.

[00:49:45] Yeah.

[00:49:46] I agree with that.

[00:49:47] Yeah.

[00:49:47] Knowing that it was coming,

[00:49:48] I,

[00:49:48] I came prepared for wet weather.

[00:49:50] I mean,

[00:49:50] you know,

[00:49:50] I had my frog dog tops and my,

[00:49:52] uh,

[00:49:52] my,

[00:49:52] my black waterproof kilt.

[00:49:55] And,

[00:49:55] your skirt,

[00:49:56] your sassy skirt.

[00:49:57] Yeah.

[00:49:57] But you know what?

[00:49:58] I learned,

[00:49:59] I learned that nothing is waterproof.

[00:50:01] Yeah.

[00:50:02] Fair.

[00:50:02] Fair.

[00:50:03] I had rain gear with me,

[00:50:04] so I learned that as well.

[00:50:06] Okay.

[00:50:07] Jasmine.

[00:50:08] So what actually let's have Jordan go first.

[00:50:10] Cause Jordan,

[00:50:10] you're still,

[00:50:11] you're really close.

[00:50:12] So.

[00:50:13] I am.

[00:50:14] And I grew up in the foothills.

[00:50:15] And like I've said on the Monday night show and on my show,

[00:50:19] I am accustomed to tornadoes hitting and not tornadoes,

[00:50:22] sorry,

[00:50:23] hurricanes hitting,

[00:50:24] but they usually die down.

[00:50:26] This is actually the first time a hurricane has ever hit as intensely as

[00:50:31] it has and kept going.

[00:50:33] Yeah.

[00:50:33] So for us though,

[00:50:34] even the forecast,

[00:50:35] like you said,

[00:50:37] we weren't seeing it as anything in the news.

[00:50:39] We're saying once it hit landfall,

[00:50:41] it would die down.

[00:50:42] It would puter out.

[00:50:43] So for us,

[00:50:44] I mean,

[00:50:45] we didn't see it as a concern.

[00:50:47] Like I said,

[00:50:47] I grew up in the foothills of the Ozarks.

[00:50:49] So by the time a hurricane hits us or even my family or who are here in the

[00:50:53] Appalachian and Smokies,

[00:50:55] it's not an issue.

[00:50:57] So we didn't even think twice about it.

[00:51:00] I mean,

[00:51:01] luckily we were safe,

[00:51:02] but I never got one of those odd feelings,

[00:51:04] my family and my infant son,

[00:51:06] we still went.

[00:51:07] And I tell you what,

[00:51:09] no one,

[00:51:10] what I know now,

[00:51:10] I still would have gone.

[00:51:12] So,

[00:51:13] I mean,

[00:51:13] we,

[00:51:13] we were as ready as we could have been,

[00:51:16] but there was no way for us knowing that it was going to keep going the

[00:51:20] way it was,

[00:51:21] but it didn't stop us.

[00:51:22] We came in actually,

[00:51:24] um,

[00:51:24] we headed out Wednesday night at about midnight and got into Orchard Lake,

[00:51:30] probably about five,

[00:51:31] 12 in the morning.

[00:51:32] So,

[00:51:33] you know,

[00:51:34] for us,

[00:51:34] we were able to get in and then once we figured out what was going on,

[00:51:38] get set up.

[00:51:38] So it was,

[00:51:39] it was one of those,

[00:51:40] we had no way of knowing what the storm was going to do once we got here.

[00:51:44] Right.

[00:51:45] So JB,

[00:51:46] you were almost on the road as that thing was forming.

[00:51:50] Like you almost left when it was still clear forecasts.

[00:51:56] How did that,

[00:51:57] yeah.

[00:51:57] How did that transpire?

[00:51:59] Like finding that out as you're going back and forth?

[00:52:03] Well,

[00:52:03] I'm not going to lie.

[00:52:05] I,

[00:52:05] I didn't know until I got there that it was going on because it's like,

[00:52:10] until like it started pinging up in the,

[00:52:12] our,

[00:52:13] our back room chats.

[00:52:15] Uh,

[00:52:18] but I was just going along.

[00:52:20] I was preoccupied with my own little,

[00:52:22] too busy.

[00:52:23] Yeah.

[00:52:25] Getting there.

[00:52:26] So I was like,

[00:52:26] gung ho that I was going to make it to this thing.

[00:52:28] Cause I was,

[00:52:29] I had all the audio visual for the event.

[00:52:31] So I was making sure that I was going to meet my deadlines and driving the whole way through.

[00:52:38] And then when we got there,

[00:52:40] cause I had to ditch most of my preps in my car in South Dakota along the way.

[00:52:45] Um,

[00:52:46] we had to pick up new stuff when we got there.

[00:52:51] And when I got there,

[00:52:53] we just got like the warnings,

[00:52:54] tropical storm coming through.

[00:52:56] And it really wasn't anything that was alarming to me.

[00:53:00] Right.

[00:53:01] Um,

[00:53:01] when the storm actually hit on Thursday night,

[00:53:05] um,

[00:53:05] I was,

[00:53:06] I was staying in Asheville in a hotel,

[00:53:08] the Clarion.

[00:53:09] And I was looking out the window and I'm like,

[00:53:12] Oh,

[00:53:12] those trees are moving.

[00:53:13] It's just kind of like at home.

[00:53:15] Cause we get.

[00:53:17] Yeah.

[00:53:19] Off the coast and used to seeing our trees bend.

[00:53:22] So I wasn't too worried.

[00:53:24] It wasn't until I got on the roads and I was like,

[00:53:26] Whoa,

[00:53:26] this is bad.

[00:53:27] Yeah.

[00:53:28] Coming from,

[00:53:28] um,

[00:53:29] Texas,

[00:53:31] we saw what was happening down there.

[00:53:33] And I mean,

[00:53:34] we're in Texas,

[00:53:35] so there's lots of hurricanes that come up through.

[00:53:38] And when you're on the outskirt of a hurricane,

[00:53:41] like it can be going by and you don't even know it's there.

[00:53:44] Um,

[00:53:45] so from what we can see,

[00:53:46] it was forecasted to come into Florida,

[00:53:48] be a problem in Georgia,

[00:53:51] um,

[00:53:51] and then go up and break up over the mountains.

[00:53:53] And head out into like the Ohio Valley.

[00:53:57] So we were like,

[00:53:58] you know,

[00:53:58] you could be right on the edge of a hurricane and never even know it's there.

[00:54:02] So as long as we get out ahead of it,

[00:54:04] you know,

[00:54:05] going to Georgia,

[00:54:05] we should be fine.

[00:54:06] So we loaded up,

[00:54:08] took off early so we could get a jump on it.

[00:54:11] Um,

[00:54:12] we did hit rain in Atlanta on a Wednesday night and then came in Thursday.

[00:54:17] And I mean,

[00:54:17] we were playing Uno and having fun on Thursday night.

[00:54:21] Um,

[00:54:22] so it was,

[00:54:24] uh,

[00:54:25] quite an unexpected moment.

[00:54:27] I'd have to say of like,

[00:54:29] just,

[00:54:30] uh,

[00:54:31] you know,

[00:54:32] we know,

[00:54:32] I don't think anybody expected it to hit like that,

[00:54:35] uh,

[00:54:36] that all.

[00:54:37] I do have to say that it was,

[00:54:40] um,

[00:54:41] disaster all around us guys,

[00:54:43] like all around us was destroyed and landslides.

[00:54:49] And we went out on some of the roads to try and go back road home.

[00:54:53] And it was absolutely just destroyed.

[00:54:56] And so I do have to say that we had,

[00:54:58] what was the grace of God?

[00:55:00] Yeah.

[00:55:00] We have no clue though.

[00:55:02] We had no,

[00:55:02] we had no idea service.

[00:55:03] There was no way for us to know the level of devastation.

[00:55:07] Like for me,

[00:55:08] honestly,

[00:55:08] it was like one of those heavy storms.

[00:55:11] Like I grew up with trees fall.

[00:55:13] So beyond that,

[00:55:15] I mean,

[00:55:15] I didn't realize the,

[00:55:17] the amount of devastation after the fact.

[00:55:20] There was no way to know.

[00:55:21] Cause we couldn't get any news in.

[00:55:23] Yeah.

[00:55:24] No.

[00:55:24] And even with the,

[00:55:25] the,

[00:55:26] not the Skynet,

[00:55:28] but it was,

[00:55:29] even with Starlink,

[00:55:30] we could get a message out and get someone to make a call out,

[00:55:34] but we still had no clue.

[00:55:35] And like everybody else was really assessing their current status at that

[00:55:40] point as well.

[00:55:40] And they couldn't really tell the world what was going on either right then.

[00:55:44] So,

[00:55:45] uh,

[00:55:45] you know,

[00:55:46] Friday we did a late start.

[00:55:47] I think it was a great that we did our classes and stuff on Saturday

[00:55:51] because the people that were there that were already tucked in that just

[00:55:54] spent that night in tent city,

[00:55:56] they would have been devastated if we didn't,

[00:55:58] you know,

[00:55:59] pull it off.

[00:55:59] Oh,

[00:56:00] absolutely.

[00:56:01] I mean,

[00:56:01] we were already there though.

[00:56:03] I don't think people realize is a lot of us,

[00:56:06] just like Jasmine,

[00:56:06] we were already there.

[00:56:09] If not the week before,

[00:56:11] if not the day before,

[00:56:12] you know,

[00:56:13] there are people who come in specifically,

[00:56:15] an entire week before prepper camp to enjoy their time.

[00:56:19] There was no way of knowing.

[00:56:20] Once you get up on that mountain,

[00:56:23] signal is sparse to begin with,

[00:56:24] especially if you're a Verizon or AT&T,

[00:56:27] unless you're T-Mobile,

[00:56:28] I don't get signal up there.

[00:56:30] Yeah,

[00:56:31] I hardly do.

[00:56:31] I hardly do.

[00:56:32] It's got to be like a hot spot out.

[00:56:35] Wi-Fi call.

[00:56:37] So,

[00:56:38] Doug,

[00:56:38] you came and got me on Friday.

[00:56:41] We were just about to nap out.

[00:56:43] That was after the big storm.

[00:56:45] We were all parked in a pack.

[00:56:49] The fields were just slosh city.

[00:56:54] So,

[00:56:55] that was interesting.

[00:56:56] What do you guys think about like your classes that day?

[00:56:59] Just some of your personal experiences there?

[00:57:01] Because,

[00:57:01] you know,

[00:57:02] our beloved prepper camp event,

[00:57:04] we had to pull it off.

[00:57:05] So,

[00:57:06] some of the feedback there.

[00:57:08] Yeah.

[00:57:09] So,

[00:57:10] for those that are listening,

[00:57:11] don't know,

[00:57:12] like vendors and instructors expected to be there a day early.

[00:57:16] Vendors specifically,

[00:57:17] I believe.

[00:57:17] It got to be there a day early.

[00:57:19] Yeah,

[00:57:19] it got to be there on Thursday.

[00:57:20] So,

[00:57:20] we were supposed to be,

[00:57:21] you know,

[00:57:22] teaching starting Friday morning,

[00:57:24] right?

[00:57:25] So,

[00:57:25] we got to be there Thursday,

[00:57:27] which is why we're all there early.

[00:57:29] Even if like,

[00:57:30] like what Jordan was saying,

[00:57:32] you could be there a week early,

[00:57:33] but vendors got to be there a day early.

[00:57:35] So,

[00:57:35] I was there Thursday.

[00:57:37] And yeah,

[00:57:38] you know,

[00:57:38] we were supposed to set up that Thursday,

[00:57:40] but because of the weather,

[00:57:41] we didn't set up that Thursday.

[00:57:42] In fact,

[00:57:43] originally we were supposed to set up at one o'clock Friday.

[00:57:46] And that ended up being like five o'clock Friday.

[00:57:49] And so,

[00:57:50] we ended up getting,

[00:57:50] you're right,

[00:57:51] it was all slushy.

[00:57:52] Like,

[00:57:52] there was the field,

[00:57:54] the pond,

[00:57:56] the lake,

[00:57:57] or whatever you want to call it.

[00:57:57] You know,

[00:57:58] it's a rather large pond,

[00:57:59] but the dock was at one point underwater.

[00:58:02] And nobody could find it.

[00:58:02] The boats were gone.

[00:58:04] I think they were attached.

[00:58:05] And they were missing.

[00:58:06] And the trees,

[00:58:07] you know,

[00:58:08] the things around the pond,

[00:58:09] like that people thought were normally on the ground.

[00:58:13] You couldn't see the base of them anymore because they were under the water.

[00:58:17] However,

[00:58:18] you know,

[00:58:18] where we were,

[00:58:19] where we were vending in our tents,

[00:58:21] you know,

[00:58:21] it was,

[00:58:22] it wasn't dry by any stretch of the imagination,

[00:58:24] but,

[00:58:24] uh,

[00:58:25] the ground was slushy.

[00:58:26] Right.

[00:58:26] And then you see,

[00:58:27] you see people like,

[00:58:28] uh,

[00:58:28] I think it was Jordan.

[00:58:30] I think you were wearing like,

[00:58:30] what was it?

[00:58:31] Crocs or flip flops or something.

[00:58:33] You and,

[00:58:33] no,

[00:58:34] I was in,

[00:58:35] I was actually in children's sized,

[00:58:36] uh,

[00:58:37] rain glosses.

[00:58:38] Cause I can't find my shoe size to save myself.

[00:58:42] EJ Snyder was there for naked and afraid.

[00:58:44] He walked around with a size 14 fricking feet.

[00:58:46] Every time he stepped into the fricking,

[00:58:48] like every time he stepped down,

[00:58:49] all the water would suck out from everywhere around the campground,

[00:58:52] just kind of go down into his foot.

[00:58:53] And then he lit up and come back out.

[00:58:55] He threw those shoes.

[00:58:57] Yeah.

[00:58:58] He played barefooted.

[00:58:59] Like you just walk around barefooted.

[00:59:01] And I,

[00:59:01] I wish looking back,

[00:59:02] that probably would have been the way to go because my socks,

[00:59:06] I went through,

[00:59:07] I brought extra socks cause I knew it was going to rain,

[00:59:08] but I went through them all.

[00:59:10] And,

[00:59:11] uh,

[00:59:11] I was actually hanging them up truck to dry.

[00:59:13] Some of the ones that got wet earlier in the week,

[00:59:15] hanging up my truck.

[00:59:16] I,

[00:59:17] I took me two days when I got home to clean the smell out of the cab of my

[00:59:21] truck is just musty freaking,

[00:59:23] you know,

[00:59:23] sweaty,

[00:59:24] wet clothes smell.

[00:59:25] It was gross.

[00:59:26] And Brock's like,

[00:59:26] he's a Marine and he only brought two pair.

[00:59:30] Way to go.

[00:59:31] no.

[00:59:31] I brought two pair of long,

[00:59:33] long,

[00:59:33] like boot socks because I expected two days of rain.

[00:59:36] I wouldn't like,

[00:59:37] you know,

[00:59:37] none of,

[00:59:37] like I said earlier,

[00:59:38] none of us were expecting a single linger as long as it was,

[00:59:40] but I brought two pairs of boot socks.

[00:59:42] So I expected two days of rain.

[00:59:43] And then I brought more like,

[00:59:45] like,

[00:59:45] like I wear like a ankle highs,

[00:59:47] my tennis shoes.

[00:59:49] Uh,

[00:59:49] yeah.

[00:59:49] So I brought lots of those,

[00:59:50] um,

[00:59:51] just because I like to keep my feet dry.

[00:59:53] Uh,

[00:59:54] I knew that the ground was going to be a little wet,

[00:59:55] but not,

[00:59:56] uh,

[00:59:56] I didn't know I was going to step in a,

[00:59:57] like literally a Creek running to help somebody,

[01:00:00] uh,

[01:00:00] set up their,

[01:00:02] their canopy.

[01:00:02] Yeah.

[01:00:03] I was like,

[01:00:03] what happened to you?

[01:00:05] You're a mess,

[01:00:06] man.

[01:00:07] You saw me.

[01:00:07] I was normal,

[01:00:08] I was all dry,

[01:00:10] at least my knees.

[01:00:11] And then,

[01:00:11] and all of a sudden you see me and I'm covered next time.

[01:00:13] You see me,

[01:00:13] I'm covered in mud.

[01:00:14] I just got this brown clay substance all around my legs.

[01:00:17] And it's,

[01:00:17] it was gross.

[01:00:18] So what happened was there was this guy by himself trying to pull this giant

[01:00:21] canopy.

[01:00:21] It's,

[01:00:22] it's really a two minute job to,

[01:00:23] to open those things up.

[01:00:24] And he was walking around it and he was laboring.

[01:00:27] I'm like,

[01:00:27] Oh God,

[01:00:27] you know?

[01:00:28] Uh,

[01:00:28] so I went to jump over this little Creek and,

[01:00:31] and land on the other side.

[01:00:32] And the other side,

[01:00:33] which should have been hard.

[01:00:35] I sank.

[01:00:36] I'm tall.

[01:00:37] I'm six,

[01:00:37] five.

[01:00:37] And I sank from my foot to my knee,

[01:00:41] just straight down into this clay.

[01:00:46] Just like quick sound.

[01:00:48] Yes.

[01:00:49] And that is like,

[01:00:50] it made the slurping sound when I pulled it out.

[01:00:56] That's what I get for,

[01:00:57] for helping you.

[01:00:59] Yeah.

[01:00:59] Okay.

[01:01:00] Yeah.

[01:01:01] Right.

[01:01:03] Ryan,

[01:01:04] my partner.

[01:01:05] Um,

[01:01:05] Oh,

[01:01:06] go ahead.

[01:01:06] Go ahead,

[01:01:07] Jamie.

[01:01:08] Oh,

[01:01:08] I was going to say my partner was rocking the Ziploc bags for his feet

[01:01:12] because he didn't listen to me.

[01:01:13] Yeah.

[01:01:14] Yeah.

[01:01:15] He was smart.

[01:01:17] A picture of that posted on my Instagram.

[01:01:21] Because it was,

[01:01:23] it's smart,

[01:01:24] but it is definitely entertaining.

[01:01:26] But like,

[01:01:27] like Doug,

[01:01:27] I had the same issue as I was walking was well before the port-a-tons,

[01:01:31] but I took a step and I sunk all the way down to my knee.

[01:01:35] So it was,

[01:01:36] it was just interesting.

[01:01:38] And I'm not six,

[01:01:39] five,

[01:01:39] I'm only five foot two.

[01:01:40] So for him,

[01:01:41] it probably would have been ankle deep.

[01:01:43] But for me,

[01:01:43] it was all the way up to the knee.

[01:01:46] Yeah.

[01:01:47] Ryan,

[01:01:48] now I got to hand it to you because we all had vehicles.

[01:01:51] Um,

[01:01:52] I haven't had two vehicles there because Ellen drove one of my cars over there.

[01:01:56] Um,

[01:01:56] so I,

[01:01:57] and I got to give it to man,

[01:01:59] cause you like weathered that storm.

[01:02:02] You didn't even have a vehicle there.

[01:02:04] Um,

[01:02:04] talk about some of your gear and how you pulled that one off.

[01:02:08] So,

[01:02:09] yeah,

[01:02:09] so I was hammock camping,

[01:02:10] everything that I had with me,

[01:02:12] I carried on the plane.

[01:02:14] I didn't check anything.

[01:02:15] So I had a back pack,

[01:02:17] like a,

[01:02:17] I use a,

[01:02:20] Oh gosh,

[01:02:21] what's it called?

[01:02:21] Hyper light mountain gear.

[01:02:23] Um,

[01:02:24] they make dry bags that are backpacks that are extremely light.

[01:02:29] Um,

[01:02:30] so I had that.

[01:02:31] And before I left,

[01:02:32] I realized that,

[01:02:33] you know,

[01:02:34] we were looking at anywhere from 10 to 12 inches of rain.

[01:02:37] And the day that I was getting ready to drive to go to the airport,

[01:02:42] to get on the plane and go,

[01:02:44] I made a last minute decision.

[01:02:46] Cause I was like,

[01:02:47] is this going to work if I take my normal leather boots and go,

[01:02:52] or am I going to have to do something else?

[01:02:54] And at the last minute I decided,

[01:02:57] you know what?

[01:02:57] I better take rubber boots and just deal with it.

[01:03:00] Um,

[01:03:01] because having,

[01:03:02] yeah,

[01:03:03] having rubber boots and being slightly uncomfortable is better than being,

[01:03:07] you know,

[01:03:07] having leather boots and being extremely uncomfortable with wet feet.

[01:03:11] So I decided at the last minute to just go ahead and suck it up and wear

[01:03:15] weather rubber boots through the airport.

[01:03:18] And,

[01:03:19] um,

[01:03:20] I packed a weatherproof carpa,

[01:03:23] parka,

[01:03:23] carpa,

[01:03:24] parka,

[01:03:24] what is that called?

[01:03:25] Parker.

[01:03:26] Yeah.

[01:03:27] poncho.

[01:03:28] There we go.

[01:03:28] A poncho.

[01:03:29] And,

[01:03:30] um,

[01:03:30] I got one that was,

[01:03:32] uh,

[01:03:32] an actual,

[01:03:33] it's,

[01:03:33] it's a style of poncho that actually transforms into a tent.

[01:03:38] Um,

[01:03:39] and it's made by one Tigris.

[01:03:43] I believe it's a company out of Salt Lake.

[01:03:45] That thing's pretty cool.

[01:03:45] Cause it covers your whole bag and everything.

[01:03:47] That's year one at prepper camp.

[01:03:50] I figured out that my go bag is not waterproof.

[01:03:53] So that had to be,

[01:03:55] it'd be rectified.

[01:03:56] You know,

[01:03:57] I,

[01:03:57] everything that's in there now is wrapped up.

[01:03:59] Yup.

[01:04:00] And before I left,

[01:04:02] I went and bought two more dry bags that are made out of,

[01:04:05] uh,

[01:04:05] with a fabric called sil nylon,

[01:04:08] S I L nylon.

[01:04:09] And it's kind of a,

[01:04:10] it's like Dyneema,

[01:04:12] but it's a little bit different.

[01:04:13] Um,

[01:04:15] but it's a hundred percent waterproof and extremely lightweight.

[01:04:17] So I went through and I decided,

[01:04:21] you know what,

[01:04:22] if,

[01:04:23] if this is as bad as it's going to be,

[01:04:25] I'm going to need to pack stuff in dry bags instead of like,

[01:04:30] you know,

[01:04:30] just shoving it in the pack.

[01:04:32] So I,

[01:04:32] I kind of went above and beyond to keep my stuff dry.

[01:04:35] And that alone saved me because I,

[01:04:39] Oh yeah.

[01:04:40] So between the poncho and the rain boots and the dry bags and the dry

[01:04:44] backpack and all that kind of stuff,

[01:04:46] I actually had no problems with keeping my gear dry.

[01:04:50] The only issues that I had were the clothes that I was wearing.

[01:04:53] So I just wound up,

[01:04:54] you know,

[01:04:55] setting that stuff aside and hang drying it.

[01:04:59] Um,

[01:04:59] but that a lot of that was last minute decisions that I made to my pack.

[01:05:05] Good ones.

[01:05:06] Yeah.

[01:05:07] That was impressive.

[01:05:08] I was like,

[01:05:08] man,

[01:05:08] you don't even have a car.

[01:05:09] Like at least we had like a reprieve area for a second,

[01:05:12] you know,

[01:05:13] to be able to get out of that rain and just have that,

[01:05:16] that zone.

[01:05:18] So.

[01:05:18] And one,

[01:05:19] one thing I did as soon as I got there too,

[01:05:21] is I realized that,

[01:05:22] so I,

[01:05:22] I went from tent city over to one of the campsites because they offered it

[01:05:26] up.

[01:05:27] There was a couple of cancellations and I was like,

[01:05:28] shoot for 15 bucks more or like,

[01:05:30] let's just do it.

[01:05:31] Um,

[01:05:32] and actually I had some extra gear with me and I,

[01:05:34] I'll talk about that later in the show.

[01:05:36] Um,

[01:05:37] cause I wound up loaning something out to,

[01:05:38] to somebody,

[01:05:39] but anyways.

[01:05:41] Um,

[01:05:43] so I realized that this thing was coming and it's going to be a

[01:05:46] challenge to stay dry.

[01:05:47] And I've dry,

[01:05:48] I've done dry runs in wet environments before.

[01:05:51] So I knew what it was like.

[01:05:53] I've tried to start fires in the rain before.

[01:05:55] And so for me,

[01:05:57] this wasn't the first,

[01:05:58] my first rodeo dealing with outdoor camping,

[01:06:01] minimalist outside and heavy rain.

[01:06:04] And I,

[01:06:04] I did all that in safe environments,

[01:06:07] like at my own house,

[01:06:08] but this was altogether different and something that was just like,

[01:06:11] Oh yeah.

[01:06:12] You know,

[01:06:12] and you know,

[01:06:13] my trailer didn't even hold up to the 18 inches of rain or whatever that

[01:06:16] came in.

[01:06:17] It was a lot and it came in really fast and really quick.

[01:06:21] Um,

[01:06:22] so yeah,

[01:06:23] I can't,

[01:06:23] yeah.

[01:06:24] I mean,

[01:06:25] every single piece of gear was put to the test.

[01:06:29] So I want to address,

[01:06:30] um,

[01:06:31] before we get into the gear,

[01:06:32] cause we're going to talk to you guys about some of the tips that we

[01:06:35] found out as,

[01:06:36] as we went along.

[01:06:37] But,

[01:06:38] um,

[01:06:38] before we go there,

[01:06:39] I wanted to talk a little bit because there's been some negative

[01:06:42] attention,

[01:06:43] um,

[01:06:44] towards Rick and Jane about not calling the event off.

[01:06:48] And so I wanted to touch base with that a little bit because first of

[01:06:51] all,

[01:06:51] it really bothers me every year of their life.

[01:06:54] They take the time to host this event.

[01:06:57] And if anybody thinks that they're making money at this excursion,

[01:07:01] they're absolutely a hundred percent wrong and have never come to the

[01:07:04] Saturday event to listen to Rick and Jane talk about their experience.

[01:07:09] And,

[01:07:09] um,

[01:07:10] you know,

[01:07:10] most years are barely breaking even to get the expenses paid.

[01:07:14] The tickets hardly ever go up and they've been doing this for a decade

[01:07:19] long.

[01:07:19] So this was year 11.

[01:07:21] So if you can imagine taking the,

[01:07:24] a huge part of your life and just dedicating it to making sure that people

[01:07:28] have access to people who are instructors and can teach and provide the

[01:07:33] safe space and they never make a big deal out of it and they don't want

[01:07:36] press there.

[01:07:37] They just do this because they feel driven to do that.

[01:07:40] And,

[01:07:41] uh,

[01:07:41] they took a lot of heat over,

[01:07:43] um,

[01:07:43] the fact that they didn't cancel the event.

[01:07:46] So a little background,

[01:07:47] you know,

[01:07:48] you don't just order this.

[01:07:49] Like there are huge tents there.

[01:07:51] We almost lost the main tent.

[01:07:53] Actually,

[01:07:53] it's the size of a house out there in a field and everybody was out there

[01:07:57] dragging it down,

[01:07:58] but you don't just order this stuff in one week and get it delivered the next

[01:08:03] week.

[01:08:04] This planning goes in well ahead of time.

[01:08:07] The hurricane on the other hand was the surprise event.

[01:08:11] And,

[01:08:11] uh,

[01:08:11] for anybody who was like,

[01:08:13] Rick was encouraging people to come in,

[01:08:15] even when it was hurricane.

[01:08:16] I have to strongly disagree with that because Rick was concerned about his own

[01:08:21] house and his house being there and his animals still being alive.

[01:08:26] It was very much a scramble moment.

[01:08:28] And you can look after the fact and say,

[01:08:31] well,

[01:08:31] this,

[01:08:31] that,

[01:08:31] and the other,

[01:08:32] but,

[01:08:33] um,

[01:08:34] you know,

[01:08:34] you just never know.

[01:08:35] And this is not something that can be planned in a day or canceled in a

[01:08:39] day.

[01:08:39] There's people that were already there.

[01:08:40] There's people that are coming in from way across the country from other

[01:08:44] countries.

[01:08:45] Um,

[01:08:46] so I don't know how you guys are feeling about that,

[01:08:48] but that's just like my feeling on it.

[01:08:50] I would love to hear your guys's opinion on,

[01:08:52] um,

[01:08:53] just how heartless.

[01:08:55] Yeah.

[01:08:56] Some of this has been.

[01:08:58] So I have seen the negative effects and I mean,

[01:09:02] the negative comments,

[01:09:03] and I don't think people realize this really was an act of God.

[01:09:07] This was not something Rick Jane or the rest of us could have ever imagined

[01:09:12] or even have foreseen.

[01:09:14] Like I said,

[01:09:15] I grew up in the South.

[01:09:16] I grew up in the,

[01:09:17] in the lower half of the mountains and I can tell you it was an odd thing,

[01:09:22] but the amount of grief they're getting,

[01:09:24] I have firsthand saw a vendor come up and approach Rick and ask,

[01:09:29] so what's the call?

[01:09:30] And Rick told him,

[01:09:32] I can't make that for you right now.

[01:09:34] We're waiting to see what the weather does.

[01:09:36] Once it clears on Friday,

[01:09:37] he goes,

[01:09:38] but if you feel it is the best thing for you and your family,

[01:09:43] then you're welcome to leave.

[01:09:44] He never made anyone stay.

[01:09:46] He never told people that they had to come on.

[01:09:48] They just,

[01:09:49] when we had enough signal to get messages out,

[01:09:52] just like they did,

[01:09:53] it was literally,

[01:09:53] we're not closed yet.

[01:09:55] We had no way of knowing.

[01:09:57] So I think they made the best call for the situation they were in and pardon my

[01:10:02] language,

[01:10:07] we had canceled it and nothing had happened in it through past.

[01:10:11] Right.

[01:10:11] Then they were like,

[01:10:11] Oh,

[01:10:12] what are you guys preparing for?

[01:10:13] Blah,

[01:10:13] blah,

[01:10:14] blah,

[01:10:14] blah,

[01:10:14] blah.

[01:10:14] And that would have been negative.

[01:10:16] Also,

[01:10:17] when it comes,

[01:10:18] everybody should know that Rick and Jane and them are still without power,

[01:10:23] still without internet.

[01:10:24] So if you've been messaging them and you haven't heard a response yet,

[01:10:28] they can't,

[01:10:28] they don't know what's going on.

[01:10:30] They can't get messages.

[01:10:31] They're very limited resources right now.

[01:10:33] So as soon as things are back up and running,

[01:10:36] you know,

[01:10:36] they're going to be reaching out.

[01:10:38] They're nothing but good hearted people.

[01:10:40] So just please be patient with them.

[01:10:42] They are still in the middle of this.

[01:10:44] They didn't get to drive home to their home.

[01:10:46] That's not in the disaster area.

[01:10:48] We did.

[01:10:49] So just please be patient with them and understand that they are going through it

[01:10:54] right now.

[01:10:55] Right.

[01:10:56] Cause they're,

[01:10:56] they live in that area,

[01:10:57] but I,

[01:10:58] I honestly think they made the best call.

[01:11:01] And for the people who were already there,

[01:11:03] especially the people who weren't as prepared as the rest of us,

[01:11:08] or not everyone can be as awesome of a prepper as Ryan.

[01:11:12] And I mean that in a positive,

[01:11:14] but it is definitely one of those things where I think it came about because I

[01:11:19] still had an amazing class both on Saturday.

[01:11:22] And even though Sunday was not as much of a turnout,

[01:11:25] I had a great one-on-one with someone that I,

[01:11:28] I would do it again.

[01:11:30] Yep.

[01:11:31] And prepper camp being in there,

[01:11:33] we got roads cleared before they were supposed to ever get cleared.

[01:11:36] One of the ladies right down the street went into labor during the storm.

[01:11:40] She was able to get out to a hospital that didn't have power,

[01:11:43] but still she was able to,

[01:11:44] because prepper camp was going on.

[01:11:47] There's differences that we made in the community.

[01:11:49] Right.

[01:11:49] I had a prepper.

[01:11:50] I mean,

[01:11:51] not a prepper.

[01:11:51] I had a local come up who attended prepper camp and tell me what y'all get

[01:11:56] did.

[01:11:57] We thank you because emergency services would have maybe gotten to us at

[01:12:01] earliest Monday or Tuesday.

[01:12:03] Then when I came down the mountain on the way out,

[01:12:07] I had,

[01:12:08] um,

[01:12:08] this gentleman ran into,

[01:12:10] we were just trying to see if we could find milk for Jericho.

[01:12:12] And,

[01:12:14] he even said what we did helped because of the fact that he had to cut

[01:12:19] himself out of his driveway.

[01:12:22] That he said that it made it so much easier for him to get down,

[01:12:26] to be able to help people because he figured he was going to be spending the

[01:12:29] next two days.

[01:12:30] Cause he said the mountain does not get touched until about a week after any

[01:12:35] sort of disaster.

[01:12:36] Right.

[01:12:37] And so for him,

[01:12:38] he,

[01:12:38] him and then the other lady who was further up the mountain,

[01:12:41] which they were all safe.

[01:12:42] Fortunately,

[01:12:43] be us being where we were was a blessing.

[01:12:45] Yeah.

[01:12:46] But they said they were able to check on the elderly and the,

[01:12:49] the sick and the individuals who lived on the mountain,

[01:12:52] who would not have gotten aid from any emergency services for almost a

[01:12:57] week.

[01:12:57] If we hadn't cleared the road.

[01:12:59] So prepper can't be in there.

[01:13:01] No matter how negative people want to put it,

[01:13:04] I'm sorry.

[01:13:05] You went through the disasters you went through,

[01:13:07] but as a group,

[01:13:08] we made a difference even locally.

[01:13:11] And you know what?

[01:13:12] That small difference made a big difference just for those lives right

[01:13:15] there.

[01:13:16] Right.

[01:13:17] What about you,

[01:13:18] Doug?

[01:13:18] How was your class and how did,

[01:13:20] you know,

[01:13:21] how did everybody respond?

[01:13:22] What do you,

[01:13:22] what was your feelings there?

[01:13:25] I,

[01:13:26] well,

[01:13:26] I think I had good attendance.

[01:13:28] I'm going to let it,

[01:13:28] whoever,

[01:13:29] I think Ryan was there.

[01:13:30] I'm not sure if anybody else in this here.

[01:13:32] I didn't make,

[01:13:32] I was going to come the next day and then.

[01:13:35] Yeah.

[01:13:35] Yeah.

[01:13:36] It was hard to tell that there wasn't going to be a next day.

[01:13:38] Right.

[01:13:39] It was just those things,

[01:13:40] but just for the audience too.

[01:13:42] So the audience knows next week,

[01:13:44] we're going to do your class on the podcast.

[01:13:46] So everybody gets to experience it.

[01:13:48] Cause it's a,

[01:13:49] I wanted to experience it that bad.

[01:13:51] So stay tuned next week.

[01:13:53] Okay.

[01:13:53] Go ahead.

[01:13:53] Sorry.

[01:13:54] That's okay.

[01:13:55] No,

[01:13:56] I actually,

[01:13:56] actually it was surviving martial law for anybody that's wondering.

[01:13:58] And I actually a long time ago,

[01:14:01] uh,

[01:14:02] several years ago,

[01:14:02] I was,

[01:14:03] uh,

[01:14:03] vending as an author,

[01:14:04] um,

[01:14:05] at sensible mountain preparedness.

[01:14:06] And I learned that if I,

[01:14:08] if I,

[01:14:09] if I,

[01:14:11] let me see what was it.

[01:14:12] Oh,

[01:14:13] that I,

[01:14:13] you know,

[01:14:14] cause the table,

[01:14:14] you had to pay for your vending table,

[01:14:15] but I found out that if I was just to teach a class that I would have to pay

[01:14:19] for a vending table.

[01:14:20] Oh,

[01:14:20] that's a good deal.

[01:14:21] So I put together surviving martial law,

[01:14:23] which was an idea that I had been working on anyway for some time because I wanted to

[01:14:27] put something together and,

[01:14:29] uh,

[01:14:29] it was,

[01:14:30] it was a success.

[01:14:32] Um,

[01:14:33] it,

[01:14:33] it was actually originally a one hour course,

[01:14:36] which I,

[01:14:37] I had way too much content to cover.

[01:14:40] And I,

[01:14:40] I ended up going over and the people that was there to help kind of regulate the

[01:14:45] timekeeping and all that,

[01:14:46] uh,

[01:14:47] came up and say,

[01:14:48] Hey man,

[01:14:48] your time is done.

[01:14:49] And I had so much,

[01:14:49] he literally got booed because he had to come up and get me and they wanted me to

[01:14:54] keep talking.

[01:14:55] Yeah.

[01:14:56] Yeah.

[01:14:56] It was a good time.

[01:14:57] they,

[01:14:58] right.

[01:14:59] And they understood that.

[01:14:59] So they gave me the next time they give me a three hour class.

[01:15:02] I'm like,

[01:15:02] yes.

[01:15:03] So did I have enough content for three hours?

[01:15:05] No,

[01:15:05] but I made enough content for three hours.

[01:15:07] Right.

[01:15:07] So it ended up being so good.

[01:15:09] I wrote into a book.

[01:15:10] And so this has been,

[01:15:11] I've been teaching this for years,

[01:15:13] surviving martial law for at least probably five years,

[01:15:15] I'm going to guess.

[01:15:16] And,

[01:15:16] um,

[01:15:16] it's always a success and it's always got a good turnout and always got,

[01:15:19] get a lot of good compliments out of it.

[01:15:21] And this class was first time I ever taught this at prepper camp.

[01:15:24] And I originally pitched the idea to,

[01:15:26] uh,

[01:15:26] to Rick and Rick actually,

[01:15:28] you know,

[01:15:29] I guess he told you that he looked,

[01:15:30] he really enjoyed the content that I gave him.

[01:15:33] And he had emailed me back and told me that it was good stuff.

[01:15:36] And,

[01:15:37] um,

[01:15:38] although all the chairs were filled,

[01:15:39] as I recall,

[01:15:40] and there was people standing up even,

[01:15:42] um,

[01:15:43] even though we had extra chairs that kind of,

[01:15:44] you know,

[01:15:44] people could grab and kind of sit down.

[01:15:46] Yeah.

[01:15:46] Yeah.

[01:15:47] We didn't want to sit.

[01:15:48] I didn't have,

[01:15:48] I don't know.

[01:15:48] I wasn't really thinking about it,

[01:15:50] but I probably could have told you,

[01:15:51] Hey,

[01:15:51] you grab a chair and sit down,

[01:15:52] you know,

[01:15:52] just try to make yourself at home.

[01:15:54] But,

[01:15:55] uh,

[01:15:55] I felt that I had a good turnout and I'm all,

[01:15:57] you know,

[01:15:57] when you get around to Ryan,

[01:15:58] let him talk about if it was a good content or not,

[01:16:00] but I,

[01:16:01] I,

[01:16:01] I did enjoy teaching it.

[01:16:03] It's something I enjoyed talking about and it had a good,

[01:16:05] had a good turnout.

[01:16:06] Yeah.

[01:16:08] Yeah.

[01:16:08] I wouldn't,

[01:16:08] uh,

[01:16:08] I wouldn't have changed it.

[01:16:09] Like I say,

[01:16:10] I think,

[01:16:11] everybody that was at my classes definitely enjoyed it.

[01:16:13] And,

[01:16:13] uh,

[01:16:14] I think it was,

[01:16:15] you know,

[01:16:15] a magnificent distraction as well for them because here they are,

[01:16:19] you know,

[01:16:20] it was a rough night in a tent and,

[01:16:22] uh,

[01:16:22] at least they got to,

[01:16:24] you know,

[01:16:24] have the,

[01:16:25] some of the experience because a lot of,

[01:16:26] uh,

[01:16:27] speakers didn't make it in and things like that.

[01:16:29] So,

[01:16:30] um,

[01:16:30] like I say that nobody was encouraging them to get there.

[01:16:33] It was,

[01:16:34] you know,

[01:16:34] you got to do what's right by your family.

[01:16:36] And,

[01:16:37] uh,

[01:16:37] when I wanted to leave,

[01:16:38] um,

[01:16:38] on Sunday,

[01:16:39] that's exactly what Rick and Jane told me is you got to do what's right by

[01:16:43] your family and,

[01:16:44] and get where you need to go.

[01:16:45] Cause we weren't sure with gasoline,

[01:16:47] what that trip out was going to look like.

[01:16:51] So,

[01:16:51] right.

[01:16:52] It had been,

[01:16:53] you know,

[01:16:53] it had started raining again,

[01:16:54] like the day of,

[01:16:55] we talked Saturday was our one class and then it was started raining again that

[01:16:59] afternoon and it wasn't going to stop.

[01:17:02] It was going to keep raining.

[01:17:03] It rain all night that night.

[01:17:04] And,

[01:17:04] you know,

[01:17:04] it was,

[01:17:05] it was raining the next morning when we got up and conditions were worsening from

[01:17:09] what I was understanding outside because the ground was already saturated.

[01:17:12] And that just means that more trees are going to fall.

[01:17:16] Yep.

[01:17:16] Maybe,

[01:17:16] maybe strong winds had died down.

[01:17:18] Huh?

[01:17:18] More landslides too.

[01:17:20] Yep.

[01:17:20] Yeah.

[01:17:20] So we got land.

[01:17:21] Okay.

[01:17:22] Maybe the strong winds are gone,

[01:17:23] but the,

[01:17:24] the,

[01:17:24] the ground at this point was,

[01:17:26] was so vulnerable.

[01:17:27] Um,

[01:17:28] you know,

[01:17:28] there was no integrity in the soil anymore.

[01:17:30] So that's why with not only with the wind,

[01:17:33] but the weak root systems now,

[01:17:36] because the ground had been,

[01:17:37] it'd been raining for two.

[01:17:38] We are now on the third day of rain and there was flooding everywhere.

[01:17:42] And the trees were falling.

[01:17:43] It was,

[01:17:43] it was,

[01:17:44] we were,

[01:17:44] even if we wanted to leave,

[01:17:45] we couldn't have originally.

[01:17:47] Yeah.

[01:17:47] Because we know that,

[01:17:48] you know,

[01:17:49] people went out from our group,

[01:17:51] went out to,

[01:17:52] uh,

[01:17:52] to cut some,

[01:17:53] some of these logs that were falling trees that fell over the road,

[01:17:56] just so people could get in and get out.

[01:17:59] And,

[01:17:59] uh,

[01:17:59] it was just us,

[01:18:00] but these roads go,

[01:18:01] did they pass through pepper can go to other residential areas?

[01:18:04] Yeah.

[01:18:04] And,

[01:18:05] uh,

[01:18:05] that made a way for these other people that were in the area.

[01:18:08] And so just to touch on what you,

[01:18:11] what you said,

[01:18:11] what,

[01:18:12] uh,

[01:18:12] what the Jordan said,

[01:18:14] you know,

[01:18:14] this is still America and he didn't make anybody stay.

[01:18:17] He didn't cancel either.

[01:18:19] It's just fine.

[01:18:19] You know,

[01:18:20] if I want the opportunity to make a decision on my own,

[01:18:22] if something's going to be open and I want to take advantage of it,

[01:18:26] that'd be my call.

[01:18:27] It's nobody else's fault.

[01:18:28] Um,

[01:18:29] for example,

[01:18:30] if we're all preppers,

[01:18:31] right,

[01:18:31] I was ready for this.

[01:18:32] I was prepared for this.

[01:18:33] This is a good chance for me.

[01:18:34] Yes.

[01:18:34] Right.

[01:18:35] I know that I'm going to,

[01:18:36] to a natural disaster zone.

[01:18:37] I understood that as an adult,

[01:18:39] I'm making that decision and it's not nobody's fault,

[01:18:42] but my own to step up and to face that challenge.

[01:18:45] It's no different than anybody else that goes on these television shows,

[01:18:48] these survival shows,

[01:18:49] you know,

[01:18:49] they know they're up to the test.

[01:18:51] They know what they're going to do when they go out there and they're

[01:18:53] walk around naked in Africa or,

[01:18:55] or freezing somewhere,

[01:18:56] you know,

[01:18:57] in,

[01:18:57] in,

[01:18:58] in Canada or,

[01:18:59] you know what I'm saying?

[01:18:59] They know that the challenge they're facing and they're making that

[01:19:02] decision on their own to put their own skills to the test.

[01:19:05] And I appreciated that opportunity.

[01:19:08] Ryan,

[01:19:08] JB,

[01:19:08] you want to add anything else?

[01:19:12] I mean,

[01:19:13] I,

[01:19:14] yeah,

[01:19:14] go ahead,

[01:19:15] Jasmine.

[01:19:15] Oh,

[01:19:16] I mean,

[01:19:16] I,

[01:19:17] I would do this all again.

[01:19:18] I mean,

[01:19:18] I was definitely best.

[01:19:20] And,

[01:19:20] uh,

[01:19:21] throughout the whole trip and I found out things that worked well and what

[01:19:26] didn't.

[01:19:26] And really that I had the tenacity to just push through it,

[01:19:30] which was really good.

[01:19:32] And,

[01:19:33] you know,

[01:19:33] some of my preps help people along the way.

[01:19:35] I was able to get my star link up and running at a hotel that had,

[01:19:40] um,

[01:19:41] was running off of generators.

[01:19:43] They had no internet.

[01:19:44] There was like 480 plus people that didn't have access to the outside

[01:19:49] world.

[01:19:50] And we're panicking cause they couldn't get ahold of their loved ones.

[01:19:54] And that's so amazing that your hotspot could do that.

[01:19:57] So cool.

[01:19:58] Yeah,

[01:19:58] it was,

[01:19:59] it was amazing.

[01:20:00] Like I'm,

[01:20:00] I'm sold on star link.

[01:20:01] I love it.

[01:20:03] Um,

[01:20:04] cause I was able to provide those people that,

[01:20:06] that sense of comfort and that normalcy and being able to get out to the

[01:20:11] outside world.

[01:20:11] It also helped us get a hotel room,

[01:20:13] which was inadvertent.

[01:20:14] Right.

[01:20:15] But,

[01:20:16] um,

[01:20:17] it was,

[01:20:18] I would do it all again because we got to help the locals in the process of

[01:20:22] it.

[01:20:23] And we were thanked so much because of our presence there.

[01:20:27] Right.

[01:20:28] Yeah,

[01:20:29] for sure.

[01:20:31] Yeah.

[01:20:32] I don't think that Jasmine's giving herself enough credit at all for being

[01:20:37] able to provide that.

[01:20:38] So,

[01:20:38] and for the listeners out there who don't realize,

[01:20:41] so she drove from Washington state,

[01:20:44] 2,500 miles to this campground in Saluda,

[01:20:50] North Carolina.

[01:20:52] In doing that,

[01:20:53] she provided all the audio visual components for the,

[01:20:59] for every single tent at the event so that we as presenters could do our

[01:21:04] thing.

[01:21:05] And I was kind of like,

[01:21:07] well,

[01:21:07] shoot,

[01:21:08] if,

[01:21:08] you know,

[01:21:09] if my whole thing is,

[01:21:10] it hinges on like when I teach freeze drying,

[01:21:13] for survival,

[01:21:15] that doesn't,

[01:21:15] it doesn't exactly lend itself to anything else.

[01:21:21] Like if I don't have a machine sitting there in front of me,

[01:21:23] which I'm not putting on a plane,

[01:21:24] I can't do a whole lot without a presentation or some sort of visual.

[01:21:29] And my ability to do that was 100% due to the efforts of JB.

[01:21:39] And,

[01:21:40] you know,

[01:21:41] for her to be able to do that and,

[01:21:42] and also be able to connect us with the outside world.

[01:21:46] Yes.

[01:21:47] I mean,

[01:21:47] you think about what we were able to accomplish just on that hillside with

[01:21:52] communication.

[01:21:53] We had people with chainsaws.

[01:21:55] We had people with food when other people,

[01:21:58] because we were supposed to get food vendors that never showed up.

[01:22:00] guess what?

[01:22:01] Pork chop had all of his stuff there all of a sudden.

[01:22:04] Oh,

[01:22:04] Jasmine left.

[01:22:05] We got to get her back.

[01:22:05] Cause I want to make sure that,

[01:22:06] that her,

[01:22:08] um,

[01:22:09] her company gets a shout out because she started a company to be able to do

[01:22:13] this for Rick and Jane.

[01:22:15] And,

[01:22:15] you know,

[01:22:16] this is pretty significant really,

[01:22:18] uh,

[01:22:19] for her to be able to do that and keep us going.

[01:22:21] So,

[01:22:22] it's beyond the entertainment,

[01:22:24] I believe beyond the entertainment.

[01:22:27] I'm almost.

[01:22:29] I'm,

[01:22:29] I'm trying to pull it up right now.

[01:22:31] I actually do have it in here.

[01:22:32] I'm just trying to find it real quick.

[01:22:34] Yeah.

[01:22:34] And she broke down on the way there,

[01:22:37] had to get a U-Haul and go drive there,

[01:22:41] then fly back to South Dakota or then take the U-Haul back to South Dakota,

[01:22:46] then fly in there,

[01:22:47] then get a rental car from there.

[01:22:49] And then that's when the rental car broke down on the way out of Henderson.

[01:22:53] Yeah.

[01:22:53] Yeah.

[01:22:54] Yeah.

[01:22:54] And then she ended up in South Carolina for a while.

[01:22:56] But for those of you who are interested in reaching out to her,

[01:23:00] as far as her business,

[01:23:01] it is info at B,

[01:23:03] B-O-N-D.

[01:23:05] Sorry.

[01:23:05] I'm spelling that.

[01:23:07] B-I-O-N-D-I entertainment.com.

[01:23:11] Throw,

[01:23:11] um,

[01:23:12] throw the link in the chat too.

[01:23:13] If you're,

[01:23:13] I think you're there.

[01:23:14] Perfect.

[01:23:14] Yeah.

[01:23:15] Yeah.

[01:23:15] Throw the link in the chat.

[01:23:17] And I'll put it on the blog too.

[01:23:19] Yeah.

[01:23:20] Absolutely.

[01:23:20] Yeah.

[01:23:20] It was flawless from,

[01:23:22] from my seat as a presenter at the event.

[01:23:25] And from what I was hearing from other folks,

[01:23:27] I mean,

[01:23:27] it was,

[01:23:28] it was unbelievable.

[01:23:29] The difference just having her there for the presentation and the

[01:23:33] workers,

[01:23:34] but also,

[01:23:35] yeah.

[01:23:35] Yeah.

[01:23:37] Yeah.

[01:23:37] Go ahead.

[01:23:37] Yeah.

[01:23:38] The amount it took off of Rick and Jane and the entire prepper camp crew,

[01:23:42] it was,

[01:23:44] it was a huge difference from the year before to that year.

[01:23:47] Like she did phenomenal.

[01:23:49] Yeah.

[01:23:49] Yeah.

[01:23:50] So,

[01:23:51] I mean,

[01:23:51] on my classes,

[01:23:52] I think I did pretty well as far as things go.

[01:23:55] Most people appreciate my class and,

[01:23:57] and the things that I talk about when it comes to freeze drying.

[01:24:01] And I actually had a couple that reached out to me a couple of days after I got

[01:24:05] home,

[01:24:06] just checking on me just to make sure that I was okay.

[01:24:09] And that I had actually made it home.

[01:24:11] And that's kind of the caliber of the people that attend this event.

[01:24:14] Um,

[01:24:15] so I was really impressed with that for the folks that actually showed up and I

[01:24:21] was,

[01:24:21] you know,

[01:24:22] I was kind of watching.

[01:24:23] So I essentially,

[01:24:25] I was a sitting duck flying in 2,500 miles from home.

[01:24:29] There's not much I can do.

[01:24:31] Uh,

[01:24:32] if something goes wrong,

[01:24:33] I mean,

[01:24:34] I'm totally at the mercy of whoever's willing to give me a ride until I can

[01:24:38] get a point to where I can get another ride or a flight out or whatever.

[01:24:42] So I,

[01:24:42] I was kind of coming at this at a different angle.

[01:24:45] And,

[01:24:46] um,

[01:24:46] um,

[01:24:47] so knowing that and being able to be relaxed and just be like,

[01:24:51] meh,

[01:24:52] I guess we'll see where this goes.

[01:24:53] Um,

[01:24:54] I think that had a different perspective for me.

[01:24:57] And I mean,

[01:24:57] it allowed me to just kind of sit back and watch these things happen and just be a,

[01:25:01] an observer.

[01:25:03] And some of the things that I,

[01:25:05] I really latched onto were the concepts of who is actually showing up,

[01:25:14] who is going to do this.

[01:25:15] And I made it a point to thank the people who did show up to my presentation.

[01:25:20] And,

[01:25:20] you know,

[01:25:21] I tried to do what I could to go to other folks and Doug's was an awesome

[01:25:24] presentation.

[01:25:25] First time ever.

[01:25:26] I mean,

[01:25:26] did a great job.

[01:25:27] Um,

[01:25:28] but I think,

[01:25:29] you know,

[01:25:30] in,

[01:25:30] in some cases,

[01:25:31] uh,

[01:25:33] it makes,

[01:25:34] these are the types of events that separate the wheat from the chaff,

[01:25:38] as they say,

[01:25:40] where you start to realize when people are willing to,

[01:25:45] to show up and when they're not,

[01:25:47] and what kind of an impact that's going to have.

[01:25:50] And some people think,

[01:25:51] you know,

[01:25:51] one of the key people that I,

[01:25:53] I queued in on that did not show up,

[01:25:56] um,

[01:25:57] was,

[01:25:58] uh,

[01:25:58] one of the guys whose main presentation,

[01:26:00] and he's been a contributor for ages is about having a group.

[01:26:06] But one of the things about a group is that you support the group,

[01:26:10] you know,

[01:26:10] you,

[01:26:10] you,

[01:26:11] you stick it out.

[01:26:12] And I think people don't realize that when things go South,

[01:26:16] some people don't show up.

[01:26:18] Yeah.

[01:26:18] And you have to realize that that's going to happen.

[01:26:21] You know,

[01:26:22] you're not going to,

[01:26:24] um,

[01:26:24] and I mean,

[01:26:25] even the people that are there now,

[01:26:26] I wish I could have stayed longer.

[01:26:28] I mean,

[01:26:28] I'm FEMA certified and ICS 100,

[01:26:31] 200,

[01:26:31] 300,

[01:26:32] 700,

[01:26:32] whatever.

[01:26:33] But that doesn't necessarily mean that,

[01:26:36] um,

[01:26:38] that,

[01:26:38] that,

[01:26:40] yeah,

[01:26:40] we are out of it.

[01:26:41] You know,

[01:26:41] does that make sense?

[01:26:42] It does completely.

[01:26:43] Cause when I got home,

[01:26:44] it was almost like,

[01:26:45] like survivor's remorse or something.

[01:26:47] I was like,

[01:26:48] how lucky am I that I'm like over here worrying about like having to,

[01:26:52] you know,

[01:26:52] clean my trailer out and file a claim and get gear together,

[01:26:56] you know,

[01:26:56] when like they're still stuck in it.

[01:26:58] And I'm just like,

[01:27:00] uh,

[01:27:00] it was just kind of surreal.

[01:27:10] Hello everyone out there in internet radio land.

[01:27:13] This is Dave Jones,

[01:27:14] the NBC guy.

[01:27:15] And I don't know why I came up with this tip.

[01:27:18] I woke up this morning and this is,

[01:27:21] stuck in my brain pan.

[01:27:23] So I just thought I get it out there.

[01:27:27] And that is performance oriented training or,

[01:27:32] or the acronym we used in the army pot.

[01:27:36] They said,

[01:27:37] what are we going to do today?

[01:27:38] Oh,

[01:27:38] we're going to do some pot,

[01:27:40] you know,

[01:27:40] and it was a big joke.

[01:27:42] Uh,

[01:27:42] but performance oriented training is,

[01:27:45] and you may have already participated in something like this,

[01:27:49] very small hands-on tasks that you can do.

[01:27:54] And it's designed to do,

[01:27:57] uh,

[01:27:57] get you tuned up,

[01:27:59] get you ready,

[01:28:00] get you thinking,

[01:28:02] uh,

[01:28:02] like loading and clearing a weapon.

[01:28:05] Very small tasks like that.

[01:28:07] Of course,

[01:28:07] use dummy rounds.

[01:28:09] Okay.

[01:28:09] Do not use live rounds.

[01:28:11] There's an accidental discharge that could occur.

[01:28:15] So use dummy rounds,

[01:28:17] uh,

[01:28:17] applying a bandage,

[01:28:19] applying a tourniquet.

[01:28:20] And,

[01:28:21] and then you would do this in like what we called a round robin type affair,

[01:28:27] where you go to different station,

[01:28:29] there'd be a table and boom,

[01:28:31] you perform the task.

[01:28:33] And it was a pass fail kind of thing.

[01:28:35] So you either did it right and got a pass,

[01:28:39] go,

[01:28:39] no go,

[01:28:40] or you got a no go,

[01:28:42] which means you need more hands-on training with that particular skill.

[01:28:48] So it's designed to get a lot of,

[01:28:52] um,

[01:28:54] training opportunities in,

[01:28:56] in a short period of time.

[01:28:57] And you'd get like,

[01:28:59] uh,

[01:28:59] maybe two minutes,

[01:29:01] three minutes at a,

[01:29:02] at a table.

[01:29:03] Uh,

[01:29:04] the,

[01:29:04] the instructor would tell you what the task was and boom,

[01:29:09] you,

[01:29:09] you do it.

[01:29:10] And then they'd blow a whistle and you'd rotate to the next one.

[01:29:13] So I don't know why,

[01:29:15] uh,

[01:29:16] that is stuck,

[01:29:17] but if you can use that in any way,

[01:29:21] think about small individual tasks,

[01:29:27] hands-on that you can perform in front of someone evaluating you and have a bunch of them.

[01:29:35] Do this.

[01:29:36] Now do this.

[01:29:37] Now do this.

[01:29:38] Now do this.

[01:29:40] That's pot performance oriented training.

[01:29:43] And that's your proper tip for the day.

[01:30:26] Well,

[01:30:26] hello,

[01:30:26] and welcome to another episode of the strange truth.

[01:30:30] I'm your host,

[01:30:30] Carl B.

[01:30:31] And what a two weeks,

[01:30:34] right?

[01:30:34] About two weeks.

[01:30:36] It's been,

[01:30:36] um,

[01:30:37] since I've,

[01:30:38] you know,

[01:30:38] since my last podcast,

[01:30:40] it's been,

[01:30:40] it's been insane.

[01:30:41] Um,

[01:30:42] had to miss last week because,

[01:30:45] uh,

[01:30:45] you know,

[01:30:45] we had a lot of little things going on with the family.

[01:30:48] And,

[01:30:49] uh,

[01:30:49] we took a big trip to Legoland.

[01:30:51] It was a day trip,

[01:30:53] but,

[01:30:53] uh,

[01:30:53] you know,

[01:30:54] it,

[01:30:54] it took a lot out of me to go and walk around Legoland,

[01:30:58] uh,

[01:30:59] there in Muncie for,

[01:31:01] you know,

[01:31:01] for,

[01:31:02] you know,

[01:31:02] for a good part of a day,

[01:31:05] but,

[01:31:06] uh,

[01:31:06] you know,

[01:31:06] the kids enjoyed it and everything else.

[01:31:08] Um,

[01:31:09] the water park there is,

[01:31:10] is great,

[01:31:11] although you have to reserve your time slot in the water park.

[01:31:15] So that was,

[01:31:16] that was good.

[01:31:17] Um,

[01:31:18] but it's been crazy,

[01:31:20] right?

[01:31:20] We had the attempted assassination of Donald Trump.

[01:31:24] Um,

[01:31:25] you know,

[01:31:25] we,

[01:31:26] we had,

[01:31:26] uh,

[01:31:27] you know,

[01:31:27] um,

[01:31:28] President Biden dropping out of the,

[01:31:32] uh,

[01:31:33] the election,

[01:31:34] uh,

[01:31:34] for November.

[01:31:37] And he basically gave the nod and basically said,

[01:31:41] okay,

[01:31:42] you know,

[01:31:43] Camilla,

[01:31:44] all right,

[01:31:45] Harris,

[01:31:45] uh,

[01:31:46] you know,

[01:31:46] she's gonna take his place.

[01:31:49] Um,

[01:31:50] and,

[01:31:51] you know,

[01:31:51] so it's,

[01:31:52] it's been a surreal couple of,

[01:31:54] uh,

[01:31:55] couple of days,

[01:31:56] starting with the assassination attempt on Donald Trump.

[01:32:00] You know,

[01:32:00] I'm,

[01:32:01] I was,

[01:32:01] we were watching something on television when,

[01:32:04] you know,

[01:32:05] my daughter,

[01:32:06] she was online.

[01:32:06] She was on her,

[01:32:07] she was on her phone and she was like,

[01:32:09] well,

[01:32:09] I think something happened to Donald Trump.

[01:32:12] And my wife,

[01:32:14] she got on her phone and,

[01:32:16] and she was like,

[01:32:17] yeah,

[01:32:17] I think there's been an assassination attempt and,

[01:32:20] and everything else.

[01:32:22] And,

[01:32:23] you know,

[01:32:23] it,

[01:32:23] it became pretty surreal,

[01:32:25] right?

[01:32:25] um,

[01:32:26] you know,

[01:32:27] that,

[01:32:27] uh,

[01:32:28] somebody would actually do this.

[01:32:30] But when you really consider like,

[01:32:32] uh,

[01:32:32] the rhetoric that has been drummed up and,

[01:32:35] you know,

[01:32:35] they say a lot about Trump.

[01:32:37] They say a lot about how,

[01:32:39] what a horrible person he is,

[01:32:41] what a bad person he is,

[01:32:42] what a racist he is,

[01:32:43] and this and that.

[01:32:45] And,

[01:32:46] and it's,

[01:32:47] you know,

[01:32:48] well,

[01:32:48] we have to say the guy is into himself.

[01:32:51] I think he is a narcissist to a certain degree.

[01:32:54] Um,

[01:32:55] but I racist,

[01:32:57] I don't think he is.

[01:32:58] I,

[01:32:58] I think that,

[01:32:59] uh,

[01:33:00] that,

[01:33:00] that's,

[01:33:01] you know,

[01:33:01] pretty much the,

[01:33:02] the,

[01:33:02] um,

[01:33:03] the mainstream media running their narrative.

[01:33:06] Um,

[01:33:07] and I think that,

[01:33:08] you know,

[01:33:09] they kept comparing him to Hitler.

[01:33:11] They kept saying all these really bad things about him instead of,

[01:33:14] really just talking about the guy's policies and what are his policies.

[01:33:19] But instead of that,

[01:33:20] it's all this attack on the man,

[01:33:22] these ad hominem attacks,

[01:33:24] right?

[01:33:24] So when you look at the way how this election is really playing out,

[01:33:30] I think with the Republicans,

[01:33:32] you see more of,

[01:33:34] okay,

[01:33:35] here's this person's policy.

[01:33:36] Here's my policy.

[01:33:38] Right.

[01:33:39] Um,

[01:33:40] I think on the other side,

[01:33:42] right.

[01:33:43] And it's,

[01:33:44] you know,

[01:33:44] Trump started some of this and then it got way out of hand.

[01:33:47] I think you see the,

[01:33:50] the mainstream media has taken up the mantle of,

[01:33:53] we'll attack the man,

[01:33:55] right?

[01:33:55] Because we don't like him.

[01:33:57] And we're not really going to talk about any of his policies,

[01:33:59] but we'll,

[01:33:59] we'll,

[01:34:00] we'll tell you,

[01:34:01] you know,

[01:34:01] we'll,

[01:34:02] we'll,

[01:34:02] we'll say he's lying.

[01:34:03] And a lot of times,

[01:34:04] if you fact check the fact checkers,

[01:34:06] you realize that the fact checkers are the one that got it wrong.

[01:34:09] Right.

[01:34:09] Um,

[01:34:11] which is incredible to me because they're supposed to have million dollar resources behind them.

[01:34:18] A lot of these,

[01:34:19] uh,

[01:34:20] you know,

[01:34:20] um,

[01:34:21] online platforms,

[01:34:22] news platforms,

[01:34:23] or,

[01:34:24] you know,

[01:34:24] the well-established mainstream news platforms.

[01:34:27] They're supposed to have people that can go through and look at tapes and,

[01:34:30] and,

[01:34:31] and spot check everything.

[01:34:32] And you realize that they're all just lying.

[01:34:34] They're all just lying.

[01:34:36] This podcast,

[01:34:38] we're going to,

[01:34:38] my last podcast was election,

[01:34:40] election,

[01:34:41] election,

[01:34:41] right?

[01:34:41] And lo and behold,

[01:34:42] I didn't realize that it was just going to take such a huge turn because in,

[01:34:46] in my last podcast,

[01:34:48] which was about what,

[01:34:50] um,

[01:34:50] over a week ago,

[01:34:52] um,

[01:34:53] I talked about,

[01:34:54] you know,

[01:34:55] um,

[01:34:55] how the election was shaping up and,

[01:34:57] and I gave my take that,

[01:34:59] yeah,

[01:34:59] you know,

[01:35:00] um,

[01:35:00] there's going to be,

[01:35:01] there's going to be civil unrest.

[01:35:02] There's going to be the,

[01:35:04] the usual,

[01:35:05] you know,

[01:35:06] unrest and,

[01:35:07] and violence,

[01:35:08] you know,

[01:35:09] that,

[01:35:09] that,

[01:35:09] that comes with these elections.

[01:35:11] Now it's,

[01:35:12] it's,

[01:35:12] it's really sad that we're,

[01:35:14] we're at a point in our history where we cannot have elections without violence.

[01:35:19] Right.

[01:35:20] Um,

[01:35:21] uh,

[01:35:21] it used to be that here in America,

[01:35:23] right?

[01:35:24] You'd have the Democrats and the Republicans pretty much,

[01:35:26] and they would disagree in a lot of things,

[01:35:28] but,

[01:35:29] um,

[01:35:29] and they would go after each other,

[01:35:31] right?

[01:35:32] You know,

[01:35:32] policy wise.

[01:35:33] And sometimes even would,

[01:35:35] they would try to assassinate each other,

[01:35:37] you know,

[01:35:37] in terms of their character,

[01:35:38] right?

[01:35:39] Not,

[01:35:39] you know,

[01:35:40] like in terms of,

[01:35:41] you know,

[01:35:42] taking another person out,

[01:35:43] right?

[01:35:43] They would go after somebody's basically like their character.

[01:35:47] And a lot of times that would work.

[01:35:50] But it's just incredible to me that we're at this point now where,

[01:35:54] um,

[01:35:55] you know,

[01:35:55] every election,

[01:35:56] you know,

[01:35:57] especially since Donald Trump has been,

[01:35:59] uh,

[01:36:00] part of the election process,

[01:36:02] every single election,

[01:36:03] there has been violence,

[01:36:04] um,

[01:36:05] you know,

[01:36:06] rioting,

[01:36:07] um,

[01:36:08] in,

[01:36:08] in one way or the other,

[01:36:10] you know,

[01:36:11] when the Republicans,

[01:36:12] the,

[01:36:13] the one riot that the Republicans committed,

[01:36:16] which was the January 6th riot.

[01:36:20] Uh,

[01:36:20] a lot of people went to prison for long periods of time.

[01:36:23] And that was called an insurrection when all those people rushed the building.

[01:36:27] Um,

[01:36:29] and it was really spun into this.

[01:36:31] It was,

[01:36:31] it was a huge media event and it was used to go after the,

[01:36:36] their political enemies.

[01:36:37] When the Democrats rioted,

[01:36:39] it was called what it was.

[01:36:41] It was,

[01:36:42] you know,

[01:36:42] a lot of the media deemed it as,

[01:36:44] you know,

[01:36:45] justified,

[01:36:46] you know,

[01:36:47] justified rioting.

[01:36:48] Right.

[01:36:49] And although they burned cities and caused billions of dollars worth of damage,

[01:36:54] right.

[01:36:54] Uh,

[01:36:55] no one was ever held accountable for any of those riots.

[01:36:58] Isn't that amazing?

[01:37:00] Right.

[01:37:01] Um,

[01:37:03] you know,

[01:37:03] you had one riot from the Republican side.

[01:37:06] Yeah.

[01:37:06] They did rush the Capitol building and,

[01:37:08] and yeah,

[01:37:09] you know,

[01:37:09] they did things that they weren't supposed to do.

[01:37:12] Um,

[01:37:14] and people went to prison yet riots all through the summertime where,

[01:37:21] you know,

[01:37:21] uh,

[01:37:22] federal buildings were attacked,

[01:37:23] you know,

[01:37:24] courthouses were attacked.

[01:37:25] Um,

[01:37:26] cops were attacked,

[01:37:27] you know,

[01:37:27] different,

[01:37:28] a lot of people got hurt.

[01:37:29] Some people got killed and,

[01:37:31] and,

[01:37:31] and no one was held accountable.

[01:37:35] Right.

[01:37:36] No one was held accountable.

[01:37:37] So I think that Americans are,

[01:37:40] uh,

[01:37:42] a lot of Americans live through it,

[01:37:46] saw it,

[01:37:47] processed it over the time.

[01:37:49] Um,

[01:37:50] because when the media is coming at you 24 seven,

[01:37:53] especially if you're that type of person that you,

[01:37:55] you,

[01:37:55] you know,

[01:37:56] you're always like going online and looking at stuff and everything else,

[01:37:59] especially if you're a Democrat,

[01:38:01] right.

[01:38:01] Um,

[01:38:02] uh,

[01:38:02] of the progressive bent,

[01:38:04] you know,

[01:38:05] um,

[01:38:05] then they get online and they read all of this junk produced by the

[01:38:09] mainstream media.

[01:38:10] And then I think that with a lot of hindsight,

[01:38:14] some of these people have been looking at some of that stuff and going

[01:38:17] like,

[01:38:17] I've been,

[01:38:18] I've been duped.

[01:38:19] And I think that's why,

[01:38:20] you know,

[01:38:21] Donald Trump has some of the support that he has now,

[01:38:24] because a lot of people realize that they were not,

[01:38:28] it was not done in a,

[01:38:30] in a truthful way.

[01:38:31] They,

[01:38:31] they,

[01:38:32] they were,

[01:38:32] they were misled.

[01:38:35] And I think that's the problem now that the left,

[01:38:38] the progressives are having,

[01:38:40] and we're going to talk a lot more about this.

[01:38:42] Uh,

[01:38:42] you know,

[01:38:43] the,

[01:38:44] the,

[01:38:44] the main gist of this podcast is,

[01:38:47] and you know,

[01:38:47] this is going to be the one and only time that I really spend any time

[01:38:51] speaking about this issue.

[01:38:52] And then after this,

[01:38:53] I'm going to be not really talking about it anymore much anymore.

[01:38:57] Um,

[01:38:58] I'm just gonna basically,

[01:38:59] uh,

[01:39:01] you know,

[01:39:01] like other things going on in the world,

[01:39:03] whether it be the war in Russia,

[01:39:04] what's going on with China and Taiwan,

[01:39:07] you know,

[01:39:08] what's going on with our food,

[01:39:09] right?

[01:39:09] Cause the ongoing war on food,

[01:39:10] what's going on with inflation.

[01:39:12] I'm going to be talking about these other issues,

[01:39:14] really the election.

[01:39:16] Not so much because,

[01:39:17] you know,

[01:39:18] I think,

[01:39:19] I think it's,

[01:39:20] it's so toxic.

[01:39:22] It's so toxic that I don't think that it's going to,

[01:39:27] you know,

[01:39:28] for my own,

[01:39:30] you know,

[01:39:31] wellbeing.

[01:39:32] I don't think it's a really healthy thing for me to spend my time on.

[01:39:37] So,

[01:39:37] um,

[01:39:37] you know what?

[01:39:38] So let's go to the,

[01:39:40] uh,

[01:39:40] let's go to our sponsors.

[01:39:41] Let's hear from our sponsors first.

[01:39:43] And then,

[01:39:44] um,

[01:39:45] I'll,

[01:39:46] you know,

[01:39:46] I'll talk about,

[01:39:47] uh,

[01:39:49] the election.

[01:39:49] Um,

[01:39:50] we'll talk about what's going on with the election and the mainstream media.

[01:39:53] We'll talk about some already,

[01:39:55] some of the disinformation that's already been out there.

[01:39:58] We'll talk about,

[01:40:00] once again,

[01:40:01] since I now have new data,

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[01:43:23] All right.

[01:43:24] So getting back to,

[01:43:27] you know,

[01:43:28] the election,

[01:43:29] and what's going on,

[01:43:30] and this crazy two weeks that we've had,

[01:43:32] right.

[01:43:33] Um,

[01:43:35] I'm going to start with,

[01:43:37] uh,

[01:43:37] let's see,

[01:43:38] uh,

[01:43:39] the Secret Service,

[01:43:40] right.

[01:43:42] your director,

[01:43:43] Dr. Chito,

[01:43:45] right.

[01:43:45] And,

[01:43:46] you know,

[01:43:46] she gave her testimony,

[01:43:47] and it was a really botched job.

[01:43:50] you know,

[01:43:51] that allowed,

[01:43:52] uh,

[01:43:53] you know,

[01:43:53] the,

[01:43:53] this guy to,

[01:43:54] um,

[01:43:57] to be able to,

[01:43:59] you know,

[01:43:59] shoot and kill people,

[01:44:01] and,

[01:44:01] and,

[01:44:02] um,

[01:44:02] almost assassinate,

[01:44:03] uh,

[01:44:04] Donald Trump.

[01:44:07] Um,

[01:44:08] you know,

[01:44:08] uh,

[01:44:09] for me,

[01:44:09] this whole thing is just a tragedy.

[01:44:11] You know,

[01:44:12] um,

[01:44:12] what could have led this 20 year old boy,

[01:44:17] right.

[01:44:17] Cause that's what he is.

[01:44:19] You know,

[01:44:19] we call him a man and everything else.

[01:44:21] But when you look at his picture,

[01:44:23] everything about here,

[01:44:24] just 20 year old boy,

[01:44:26] right.

[01:44:26] What,

[01:44:26] what could have led him to go up on that roof,

[01:44:29] point a rifle at somebody and,

[01:44:31] and try to kill him?

[01:44:32] Uh,

[01:44:32] you know,

[01:44:33] what,

[01:44:33] what could have been,

[01:44:34] uh,

[01:44:35] what could have been the driving factor behind that?

[01:44:37] And that's always going to be,

[01:44:38] you know,

[01:44:39] kind of a mystery until we have more information.

[01:44:42] Um,

[01:44:43] if you notice that they haven't really released much on this guy,

[01:44:46] they have his phone.

[01:44:47] I'm sure they have every,

[01:44:48] they have all these electronic,

[01:44:50] um,

[01:44:50] devices and everything else.

[01:44:53] And,

[01:44:54] um,

[01:44:54] you know,

[01:44:54] um,

[01:44:55] and while,

[01:44:56] while,

[01:44:57] you know,

[01:44:57] it's really amazing to me too,

[01:45:00] that the mainstream media could not bring themselves to,

[01:45:04] to just say the truth that the,

[01:45:07] what everybody witnessed that Donald Trump was shot at that,

[01:45:11] you know,

[01:45:11] a lot of them just could not,

[01:45:13] they,

[01:45:14] they,

[01:45:14] they,

[01:45:14] they're so down,

[01:45:16] you know,

[01:45:16] the,

[01:45:17] the,

[01:45:17] the lying rabbit hole,

[01:45:18] right.

[01:45:18] They're so,

[01:45:20] it's just so much a part of their,

[01:45:22] like what the core of what they do.

[01:45:25] They just couldn't bring themselves to say,

[01:45:27] Hey,

[01:45:27] you know what?

[01:45:27] There was an assassination attempt on Donald Trump,

[01:45:31] right.

[01:45:31] They just could not bring themselves to say it.

[01:45:33] And that in itself was really eyeopening to see that here is something that played out in front of thousands of witnesses,

[01:45:41] um,

[01:45:42] in front of thousands of recording devices.

[01:45:45] Um,

[01:45:46] and they still could not bring themselves to say it.

[01:45:50] You hate somebody that much and despise them that much that they could not bring themselves to say that,

[01:45:57] you know,

[01:45:58] this was a real event.

[01:45:59] It really happened.

[01:46:00] And,

[01:46:00] you know,

[01:46:01] some of them,

[01:46:01] it was really disgusting to,

[01:46:02] to hear all of that,

[01:46:04] you know,

[01:46:05] regardless of who it happened to you,

[01:46:07] you know,

[01:46:08] you,

[01:46:08] you gotta say,

[01:46:10] you know,

[01:46:10] it was a disgusting act,

[01:46:11] but what could have led this boy to go up on a roof with a rifle and,

[01:46:15] and try and shoot Donald Trump is,

[01:46:17] it's,

[01:46:17] it's really amazing to me.

[01:46:18] I think it's all part of it.

[01:46:21] Big part of it,

[01:46:22] right.

[01:46:22] is all the hate and vitriol that's out there,

[01:46:25] you know,

[01:46:25] being pushed by both parties being pushed by the mainstream media themselves.

[01:46:30] And it's really sad to see,

[01:46:32] you know,

[01:46:32] I,

[01:46:32] I think that,

[01:46:34] um,

[01:46:35] this,

[01:46:36] this young man bought into some ideas,

[01:46:39] right.

[01:46:41] One particular ideology,

[01:46:42] most likely really bought into it.

[01:46:44] And,

[01:46:44] and he,

[01:46:45] he figured that this was a solution,

[01:46:48] right.

[01:46:49] Um,

[01:46:49] it cost him his life.

[01:46:51] It's amazing.

[01:46:51] It costs another person their lives too.

[01:46:53] And it's really,

[01:46:54] really horrible what happened.

[01:46:56] Um,

[01:46:58] so let's see.

[01:46:59] Um,

[01:47:01] yeah,

[01:47:01] it's,

[01:47:02] it,

[01:47:02] that was a bad scene and it was,

[01:47:04] it was really surreal to watch that play out.

[01:47:07] So as they investigate this,

[01:47:09] and,

[01:47:10] and they're trying to figure out the truth.

[01:47:12] Uh,

[01:47:12] well,

[01:47:12] you know,

[01:47:12] they called,

[01:47:14] uh,

[01:47:15] the director and,

[01:47:16] and she didn't really have any good answers.

[01:47:18] It seemed like,

[01:47:19] uh,

[01:47:20] they,

[01:47:21] they were,

[01:47:21] they weren't using their resources in the proper way.

[01:47:25] Um,

[01:47:25] and it just seemed like the regular procedure wasn't followed in.

[01:47:30] And,

[01:47:30] and,

[01:47:30] you know,

[01:47:31] and,

[01:47:31] and,

[01:47:31] and I think she had to,

[01:47:32] she had to resign because it just,

[01:47:35] there,

[01:47:35] there was just not any more credibility there.

[01:47:38] Right.

[01:47:38] Um,

[01:47:39] and it was really surprising too,

[01:47:40] when she resigned,

[01:47:41] because a lot of times,

[01:47:42] uh,

[01:47:43] these people go up and they say,

[01:47:45] okay,

[01:47:45] this,

[01:47:45] this is what happened,

[01:47:47] blah,

[01:47:47] blah.

[01:47:47] And although,

[01:47:49] you know,

[01:47:49] something went wrong horribly,

[01:47:50] but they don't resign.

[01:47:52] She actually resigned.

[01:47:53] So,

[01:47:54] um,

[01:47:55] I said,

[01:47:55] and,

[01:47:55] and that to me speaks volumes that it must,

[01:47:59] it must be a whole lot worse than we ever really realized if she had to,

[01:48:03] if she actually stepped down.

[01:48:06] Um,

[01:48:07] and then of course,

[01:48:09] you know,

[01:48:10] Biden had a really bad week and,

[01:48:12] um,

[01:48:13] he had a really bad week.

[01:48:14] And then of course,

[01:48:16] uh,

[01:48:18] when,

[01:48:18] when was it?

[01:48:19] I,

[01:48:19] I think it was Saturday or Sunday.

[01:48:21] Um,

[01:48:22] we got the news,

[01:48:24] right.

[01:48:24] That,

[01:48:24] that he was basically,

[01:48:26] um,

[01:48:27] you know,

[01:48:28] um,

[01:48:28] um,

[01:48:29] taking himself out of the race and he had tapped,

[01:48:31] uh,

[01:48:32] Harris,

[01:48:33] right.

[01:48:33] Um,

[01:48:34] as you know,

[01:48:35] he had tapped Harris as,

[01:48:37] you know,

[01:48:37] the VP,

[01:48:38] right.

[01:48:38] As,

[01:48:39] uh,

[01:48:39] the person,

[01:48:40] uh,

[01:48:40] to run.

[01:48:41] And,

[01:48:42] um,

[01:48:42] and of course,

[01:48:43] once that occurred,

[01:48:45] everything went wobbly,

[01:48:46] right.

[01:48:46] Because I'm sure for the Republicans was like,

[01:48:48] okay,

[01:48:49] all right,

[01:48:49] we,

[01:48:49] now we have a new person.

[01:48:50] They had a plan for,

[01:48:52] for Biden that went out,

[01:48:54] kind of went out the window to a certain extent,

[01:48:56] uh,

[01:48:57] when you,

[01:48:57] because now you have to readjust your,

[01:49:00] your,

[01:49:01] your plan.

[01:49:02] I would,

[01:49:02] I even read an article that was written that said,

[01:49:05] Hey,

[01:49:05] you know,

[01:49:06] if Biden was to drop out,

[01:49:07] there are certain States where he's already gotten the nomination.

[01:49:12] Uh,

[01:49:13] they would not allow a new person on the ballot,

[01:49:17] right.

[01:49:17] That I'm going to have to do some more research,

[01:49:20] but I think that there might even be some legal issues in terms of,

[01:49:24] uh,

[01:49:25] Ms.

[01:49:25] Harris running right now,

[01:49:26] right.

[01:49:27] Camilla Harris running,

[01:49:28] uh,

[01:49:29] but you know,

[01:49:30] we,

[01:49:30] it's going to be interesting,

[01:49:32] you know,

[01:49:33] how it all plays out.

[01:49:35] We know that she's now the official,

[01:49:37] uh,

[01:49:39] democratic nominee.

[01:49:40] Um,

[01:49:41] and that will get even more official when they have their convention.

[01:49:44] Uh,

[01:49:44] we'll see how that goes.

[01:49:46] And,

[01:49:47] um,

[01:49:48] and,

[01:49:48] you know,

[01:49:49] it's going to be an interesting election from that standpoint.

[01:49:53] Um,

[01:49:53] um,

[01:49:54] but,

[01:49:54] uh,

[01:49:55] immediately pretty much about a day,

[01:49:57] it took about a day.

[01:49:58] And then all the news started to get weird where Donald Trump was ahead.

[01:50:02] Of course,

[01:50:02] he was leading Biden in all the States.

[01:50:04] All of a sudden now we,

[01:50:05] we had to have all these polls saying Kamala Harris is ahead.

[01:50:09] All of a sudden now,

[01:50:11] the race card was in,

[01:50:13] you know,

[01:50:13] the,

[01:50:14] the whole idea of race was,

[01:50:15] was front and center again.

[01:50:18] Um,

[01:50:18] and I think this is going to hurt not only her to a certain extent,

[01:50:24] it's going to hurt me as a black person.

[01:50:26] It's going to hurt a lot of black people out there.

[01:50:28] I,

[01:50:29] I,

[01:50:29] I don't want this to be about her race.

[01:50:31] I want it to be about her policies and her ideas.

[01:50:34] And I,

[01:50:35] and I really want,

[01:50:36] uh,

[01:50:37] the Republicans to stay on that track to say,

[01:50:40] Hey,

[01:50:40] this is about her policies.

[01:50:42] It's not about a race here.

[01:50:44] It's not about our gender.

[01:50:45] It's not about a race.

[01:50:46] It's about our policies because that's where we're supposed to be.

[01:50:49] And,

[01:50:50] and the mainstream media need to highlight that and get off of this whole thing about race,

[01:50:55] because I don't really see the Republicans out there saying,

[01:51:00] you know,

[01:51:00] saying much about this woman's race.

[01:51:02] What I see is a lot of the mainstream media talking about how Republicans are talking about this woman's race.

[01:51:08] And I think that in itself is not going to be as,

[01:51:11] as effective as they think it should be.

[01:51:14] And I think it's a,

[01:51:15] it's a losing card for them to play.

[01:51:18] I don't think it's going to work,

[01:51:20] but anyway,

[01:51:22] um,

[01:51:23] let's,

[01:51:24] uh,

[01:51:24] let's take a look at a few articles here.

[01:51:26] Right.

[01:51:26] And,