This is a WILD show from the craziest year in all of our lives.
[00:00:00] We have to hit the reset button and create a true culture preparedness starting at a very young, but then pushed the idea away.
[00:00:50] His rationale had been that it was too expensive and he trusted the power company to restore
[00:00:55] power quickly if there was an outage.
[00:00:58] Now looking at the news coming out of the countries in the middle of their economic
[00:01:02] meltdowns he began to realize that his family was not as prepared for an emergency as they should have been.
[00:01:09] A couple of words from the T.S. Eliot poem, the love song of J. Alfred,
[00:01:14] Prufrock, Prufrock, Prufrock, flashed through his thoughts.
[00:01:18] He realized that he was, quote, like a patient, etherized upon a table.
[00:01:26] He had been in a state of social ignorance and sleep.
[00:01:29] Alfie found himself then really looking at his life
[00:01:33] in a new way.
[00:01:34] He felt like he had been one of those animals
[00:01:37] that would get fawned over and fattened up on a farm,
[00:01:40] not out of love, but just so they could be easily led
[00:01:44] to the slaughterhouse.
[00:01:47] He then realized that maybe he had been too reliant on the government, the country's
[00:01:51] infrastructure and the goodwill of his fellow man to take care of him and his family.
[00:01:57] If there really was a problem he mused, the only people who could take care of his family
[00:02:04] was his family.
[00:02:07] What is up PBN Family?
[00:02:09] Just a little excerpt there from the prepper, part one, The Collapse by Carl A.D. Brown.
[00:02:16] I'm sure you're familiar with the title.
[00:02:18] We've had him on as a sponsor for at least a month now.
[00:02:24] And man, I'm'm gonna tell you what what
[00:02:28] really took me aback on that story was reading those first formative chapters
[00:02:34] where the main character Alfie starts to have those revelations that we all had at
[00:02:40] one point in our life I mean, everybody who listens to PBN and
[00:02:46] everybody who hosts here on PBN has their set story when it all started to
[00:02:52] come together before their eyes when they were like whoa it's time to step
[00:02:56] my game up and and take this prepping thing seriously. So tonight we've got
[00:03:03] Carl A.D. Brown on the show with us. We're lucky
[00:03:06] enough to have the author of the book from the excerpt that you just heard.
[00:03:10] Great read, I highly recommend it. I mean it really is, it's a book for the time
[00:03:16] right now and particularly for the holiday season because it's one of those
[00:03:22] books you can sit down with if you got some time off
[00:03:25] and you'll blow right through it. I'm telling you it's an easy read
[00:03:30] and you'll blow right through it and then you'll have to get yourself part two.
[00:03:33] So we got Dave Jones, we got Jordan Smith on the phone with us and I think we
[00:03:42] should just get the ball rolling.
[00:03:53] Carl, I'd love to hear from you, my man, about your kind of personal aha moment when it came to prepping. Welcome into the show. These are some of my favorite stories when I hear about the early things that sort of, you know, changed the machine's route, changed the course that was previously
[00:04:06] charted, you know what I mean? And I'm sure Dave and Jordan have their own stories as well. And
[00:04:12] that little excerpt really kind of spurred this all to the front of what I'd like to talk about
[00:04:18] tonight, which is what was the entry level objective when you got into prepping, Carl?
[00:04:26] level objective when you got into prepping Carl. Well, you know, as you know, I am originally Jamaican, right?
[00:04:33] And during the late 70s, yeah, during the late 70s and early 80s in my country, when
[00:04:41] I was a teenager, I lived through some of the things that you
[00:04:47] guys are probably seeing now to a certain degree, but they were a little bit more extreme
[00:04:55] where I'm from. During that time, you know, a big push, you know, for socialism in my
[00:05:03] country. And I remember when I was a kid, Fidel Castro would be on
[00:05:08] the television and everything was in black and white. And we had this guy and he was
[00:05:14] on TV speaking Spanish for 90 minutes or more. He gave these really long speeches and everybody
[00:05:21] was like, why are we watching this? Why we seeing it? And it was just because they were trying the government at the time and the
[00:05:29] politicians at the time were trying to kind of bring this way of thinking into
[00:05:36] our country and I remember getting on the long lines and
[00:05:42] to buy food and we got stuff because she knew people and that was the way, you know, it started
[00:05:49] to work and the violence, you know, I remember as a young boy in, you know, in my country,
[00:05:57] being on a bus, you know, getting going home, going home from school, Not a school bus, just a regular bus that anybody will take. And I remember
[00:06:09] we got into downtown Kingston and some people barricaded the street and they stopped the bus,
[00:06:18] they took a guy off the bus and they said, well, I guess he's a socialist or whatever it was.
[00:06:27] And they stabbed him, you know, and he managed to get back onto the bus, right?
[00:06:33] And the bus driver took him to the local police station and left him there.
[00:06:39] But I was probably about 13 when that happened.
[00:06:43] And my friends and I were on the bus and this
[00:06:46] is stuff that we were witnessing. So, you know, we would always see, we would always
[00:06:51] see in America, you know, when I was there, we would always see you guys have all these,
[00:06:56] you know, elections and no one, no one got killed, you know, it was, it was like, it
[00:07:00] was like this thing where it was like, wow, you know, so they have elections and people have
[00:07:05] different points of view and no one gets killed.
[00:07:09] You know, like no one gets hurt.
[00:07:11] You know, they actually go to the polls and it works.
[00:07:15] And coming here, I think that I just had that mindset.
[00:07:22] Yeah, it's something that really did stick with me coming here,
[00:07:27] you know, and, you know, I, I got into prepping slowly, you know, it was just a thing where
[00:07:35] okay, you know, what do I have? What do I need? You know, why would I need it? You know,
[00:07:41] and, and then I wrote the book. and because I was writing the book,
[00:07:45] it made me realize, hey, I really need this.
[00:07:50] And if we had a real bad emergency, because we did where I live,
[00:07:56] we had some bad flooding.
[00:07:58] And our town was pretty much swamped out.
[00:08:03] It was completely flooded out.
[00:08:07] And I watched people have to, they had to go to the local university where they were
[00:08:14] using it as a shelter and people lost their homes.
[00:08:18] We suffered from that for years. You know, like once it came, it, you know, it took years for our, you know, our county to, to recover from
[00:08:29] it. And it made me start thinking about, you know, what
[00:08:33] if I did get cut off in a snowstorm, or if there was another
[00:08:37] flood or, or, you know, so I started just getting things
[00:08:40] together, you know, you get that generator, you know, then you
[00:08:43] start looking at your food supply, you know, you get that generator, you know, then you start looking at your food supply, you know, you
[00:08:45] start wondering, okay, you know, can I you know, what should I
[00:08:49] have and, and then you start that kind of well, that's how I
[00:08:52] really started that journey. And writing the book helped me to,
[00:08:59] you know, further on in that journey. And I didn't really
[00:09:03] expect the book when I wrote it to have been
[00:09:05] such a universal thing. I had people who I never thought would read something like that reading it
[00:09:13] and wanted to talk to me about it. And you know, it was a real eye opener because I never thought that it would appeal.
[00:09:26] I knew that preppers would see it and pick it up.
[00:09:29] I would get feedback from the community,
[00:09:33] but I didn't expect so many people outside of the community
[00:09:38] to have any kind of interest or connection to it.
[00:09:42] One person told me, because it's so short,
[00:09:46] that first book, you know, like, yeah, they're real scary. But it's read, you know, it's a scary
[00:09:52] little thing. And, you know, so yeah, and people have passed that book around, I have friends who,
[00:10:00] you know, have, you know, they started prepping and they've passed it around.
[00:10:06] And the thing is, once the Corona virus thing broke, and yeah, once that broke,
[00:10:15] I was lucky enough to, I was listening to your podcast and everything else before,
[00:10:23] before that, and once it broke and the way you guys handled it,
[00:10:28] the way you did a Corona cast and just listening to,
[00:10:35] I can say Jay Fergie and Dave Jones talk about
[00:10:39] what they were doing and how they were planning.
[00:10:43] And this is like info that myself and my friends,
[00:10:48] we just pass the stuff around.
[00:10:50] Oh, that's so cool.
[00:10:51] I've got an oxygen, because Dave Jones said,
[00:10:54] what was it like in January?
[00:10:58] He was like, one of the things I think we should get
[00:11:00] and maybe have is an oxygenator.
[00:11:03] So yeah, I have one. And it really made me
[00:11:08] realize just what a public service you guys are doing. I don't think you really understand
[00:11:15] the power of your platform and just what it can do to help people, especially in a bad time, especially in a time like we definitely have an emergency. You know, it was it
[00:11:30] was a massive thing, you know, just listening to the the daily
[00:11:36] caches, you know, like what was going on and, and how you guys
[00:11:40] were handling it. And you know, seeing you know, like, just
[00:11:43] listening to, you know, are you panicking or what's going on and
[00:11:47] being able to get intel from different parts of the country because you guys are in Virginia,
[00:11:51] I know that, but then you have, I think there's one host who's like in Washington state or
[00:11:56] something like that.
[00:11:57] So it was nice to be able to hear things from different parts of the country and you get
[00:12:03] a real good beat of what's going on. Dave
[00:12:05] Jones mentioned something actually today about like a national emergency because I was listening
[00:12:13] to the podcast today, the Daily Cash Day, and I think that's a good idea. It's a powerful
[00:12:20] thing you guys have and it's going to be interesting to see how it evolved from
[00:12:26] this point on because getting through this crisis was a test
[00:12:31] and you guys passed. Between me and the people who
[00:12:42] hear they would listen in from time to time,
[00:12:46] I could, I would hear something valuable
[00:12:49] and I was able to pass it on or give them the link
[00:12:53] to a podcast that was important,
[00:12:55] what we deemed to have been important,
[00:12:57] important information.
[00:12:59] So yeah, I just have a really good public service outlet
[00:13:04] there and it's gonna be interesting to see how you go forward from here.
[00:13:09] Well I appreciate that Carl. That's a huge compliment man and I want to go back real quick to something you said that everyone in the whole United States needs to hear because it rocked me just now. You said that when you were
[00:13:26] experiencing your crisis in Jamaica you would watch the elections on television
[00:13:32] in the United States and you would marvel at the fact that we could disagree
[00:13:36] and not kill each other and hold elections and not kill each other and I
[00:13:41] don't know if you understand how powerful that is, what you just said right there for the
[00:13:46] times, but you know, we are where most people's heads are right now. Well, maybe not most people,
[00:13:53] but where where a lot more people than I've ever seen before his heads that are right now is, is in
[00:13:59] the exact opposite, right? It's like we need some action here in the streets or you know what
[00:14:07] I mean? Some kind of revolutionary upheaval during this election. And man, that's, God,
[00:14:16] that's a powerful point, right? A powerful point is hold on. You know, this thing we
[00:14:22] do is special and, you know, wow.
[00:14:26] I can't dissect it all right now and give answers and good wrap ups and conclusions
[00:14:30] to it all.
[00:14:31] But I would like for everyone out there listening to sit down and just think about the power
[00:14:35] of that, right?
[00:14:36] That a nation, and I'm sure it wasn't just Jamaican, I'm sure it's not just Jamaican,
[00:14:41] even to this day, but these nations that can be embroiled or are embroiled in violence and radical violence.
[00:14:48] Watch from afar.
[00:14:50] Watch the United States.
[00:14:51] So just be wary.
[00:14:55] I know it seems like a crazy time where violence might be the answer, but it's hard to get
[00:15:02] back from that.
[00:15:04] So yeah. Thank you for that.
[00:15:06] That's a big one.
[00:15:07] No problem.
[00:15:08] As I said, it's something where no one really talks politics openly in my old country, because I am American now,
[00:15:26] and I haven't been really following things like there
[00:15:29] because I've been engaged in my life here wholeheartedly.
[00:15:34] But when I left, no one spoke about politics.
[00:15:37] It was something that ripped families apart.
[00:15:42] It was a violent time.
[00:15:44] And that is something that I hope, I hope that you guys will never see here.
[00:15:51] It's already happening.
[00:15:52] You know, you have a really good system.
[00:15:55] Well, yeah, you know, the thing is, you see it.
[00:15:58] I think that there are some people, they're playing with fire, right?
[00:16:03] It's kind of like the dragon that you let in
[00:16:06] and you just can't get it out once you let it in. And I think that you know hopefully you you know
[00:16:17] as a country we can really we can really take the the foot the gas here. And, you know, like what makes us American, right?
[00:16:27] It's because we can all, it's a huge melting pot
[00:16:31] and we can all kind of live together and get along
[00:16:35] and we can have different points of view.
[00:16:40] You know, it used to be we're at the dinner table, right?
[00:16:44] You know, you would sit down and, you know, uh, it, it used to be where at the dinner table, right. Um, you know, you, you would sit down and, you know, one person could be,
[00:16:49] you know, a Democrat and the other person could be Republican.
[00:16:52] And, and, and, you know, you have a different way of seeing the
[00:16:55] world and different points, you know, as a matter of fact, you, you, you,
[00:17:02] it was those differences that made us, you know, it was, it was the ability to tolerate those differences
[00:17:07] that made us strong. Oh, for sure. You know, as I said, I
[00:17:11] came from I came from a different cultural mindset where
[00:17:16] you know, yeah, you didn't talk politics because you get you
[00:17:19] killed. You know, you know, there were people who would, you
[00:17:23] know, kick your door off in the middle of the night and terrorize
[00:17:26] your family at the point of a time.
[00:17:31] So yeah, coming here and being able to be engaged in this wonderful ongoing experiment
[00:17:39] that we're running here is a huge privilege and something that we should not throw away.
[00:17:45] And this, it makes me very uncomfortable to watch all the violence now and people not being able to
[00:17:53] really speak their mind. Free speech is being trampled on, you know, with all the censorship
[00:17:59] that's going on. You know, they're all trying to control all the information that you hear
[00:18:05] and you see. And, you know, it's very unsettling. I'm a dystopian writer, and everything that
[00:18:15] is all pointing to a future that I would not, I don't want to see, you know, it's this, our
[00:18:25] Orwellian, you know, Randy in the future that I don't want to be part of, you
[00:18:32] know, so I'm hoping maybe your platform and other platforms like this can help
[00:18:36] pull us back from the brink. There's a lot of, I'm sure right now, especially
[00:18:41] with the election, there's a lot of very upset people out there right now and um, you know, I think that
[00:18:48] You know with your help and and with the other platforms we can help dial this back
[00:18:55] Well, we have to escape. Uh, I I really
[00:19:00] Yeah, I think we have to escape go ahead the desperation mindset
[00:19:04] Yeah, I think we have to escape the desperation mindset. You know, law and order has to be placed back on its pedestal, particularly in terms of
[00:19:12] the riots and the clashes when you have protests.
[00:19:17] But there's also what has been built over, and I know this because I watched it, I watched the techniques at
[00:19:25] the low level in the prepping world back in 2010.
[00:19:30] You know, there are, there are, it's very easy to make a person feel like this is the
[00:19:35] most desperate time and anything you can do to survive this desperate time you have to
[00:19:41] do and when I look out across what's happening on both sides of the political spectrum here in America that's what
[00:19:47] each side is on right now this is the most desperate moment in human history
[00:19:54] we have got to get rid of Biden we have got to get rid of Trump if we don't get
[00:19:58] rid of Biden and Trump then it is all lost you know it doesn't matter really
[00:20:02] which side you're on it It's both, right?
[00:20:05] One side is saying the same thing
[00:20:07] that the other side's saying just with a different enemy,
[00:20:09] but it is total desperation.
[00:20:12] You know, we have to act now or all is lost.
[00:20:17] And you know that throughout the history
[00:20:21] of the United States, that's never been the case.
[00:20:25] And to be quite honest with you, I don't think it's the case now. But that
[00:20:31] desperation is a pillar.
[00:20:36] Yeah, I ran an experiment the last couple of weeks, right, where I did not watch
[00:20:44] the news really or listen to it.
[00:20:47] My wife is great, I don't know how she does it.
[00:20:49] She doesn't follow the news or anything.
[00:20:51] I mean, she's a really busy person,
[00:20:53] but she doesn't really get involved in any of that stuff.
[00:20:57] And for the most part,
[00:20:59] apart from just being stressed about her job,
[00:21:02] she is pretty good in terms know, in terms of stress
[00:21:07] levels and everything else. So for about, you know, two weeks, I said, I'm not going to be following
[00:21:13] any of this. And it was really kind of nice waking up in the morning. It's almost like I unplugged,
[00:21:19] you know, like, you just unplugged, and then you realize that they're just yanking your chain one and Yeah, it sounds like a good beginning of the year challenge. consumed by any of it. You know, I spent more time, you know,
[00:22:08] with my, with my children, with my projects around the house,
[00:22:12] you know, I have quails and everything else. And they're laying eggs like crazy, even in the wintertime, you know, it was
[00:22:15] just nice to just kind of get out, just do the projects
[00:22:19] around the house and reconnect with my kids, and my family and,
[00:22:24] you know, my friends and everything else and not
[00:22:27] worry about these people who just kind of want to yank or chain. And they plant one
[00:22:35] flag over here and another flag over there and they say, okay, go beat yourself silly,
[00:22:40] right? It's kind of like that whole thing. and what's the name of that book? It was
[00:22:51] All Quiet on the Western Front, where the the old sergeants said, yeah, there's a scene, I believe the old sergeants said, you know what we should do? We should put all the kings and all
[00:22:55] these leaders all in a field and give them back and just have them go at it and and winner take all
[00:23:07] have them go at it and and winner take off and they just leave us alone okay and right and and and and i think that because all they do is just wind people up you know they just
[00:23:13] wind in and they they get angry with with each other it just completely destroys their
[00:23:19] life you know just people shouting at the television screens and it's like, I mean, it's, it's not worth,
[00:23:28] it's not worth your time and your blood pressure and your health and everything else. And,
[00:23:32] and, you know, creating enemies and your family, you know, like with your family, it's not
[00:23:37] really worth it. You know, we'll survive whomever they they'll put up there. They're all you
[00:23:42] know, the way I see it, they're kind of of like they're all kind of like gangsters anyway right and
[00:23:47] it's all kind of like the shell game that they're all running up there you
[00:23:50] know and it's like you know it's do any of them really stand for the truth do
[00:23:57] any of them really stand for you know the little people like myself you know
[00:24:03] I don't know you know it's one of one of those things. You know, I just know
[00:24:07] when I wake up in the morning, I have to go to work just like
[00:24:09] everybody else. Right? You know, you get through your job, you
[00:24:14] get home and you have to take care of your family. And that's
[00:24:17] what matters. And that's why prepping matters because it then
[00:24:22] is if something bad comes at least you can you can you
[00:24:27] have a little bit more in reserve to preserve the health of your family and their well-being and I
[00:24:35] think and I think that's why what you guys are doing it's really really valuable and and and
[00:24:41] have those connections out there that you can show people, you know, what to do and how to do it.
[00:24:48] And to give them insights into that lifestyle of self-sufficiency is a wonderful thing.
[00:24:55] So, you know, I just want to say once again, thanks for everything that you guys are doing.
[00:25:01] I'll say it again, you did pass the test. COVID was the test, right?
[00:25:11] It makes me shiver to think of something really serious. If we were to really go through something
[00:25:16] really serious, how would it all play out? Because this was bad. And it was survivable okay it's not like it was an EMP right it's
[00:25:29] not like it was an EMP or or you know like something like you know Yellowstone
[00:25:35] interrupting or or or something like you know or the the earthquake zone there
[00:25:41] you know erupt erupting.
[00:25:45] This was almost like a drive-run, right?
[00:25:48] It was a drive-run, how are you on your preps?
[00:25:51] What are your connections in the community?
[00:25:56] Do you have people that can back you?
[00:26:00] One of the mistakes Alfred made was he didn't really have people.
[00:26:05] He did it all by himself.
[00:26:07] And the one thing I really do all of this is that you really can't do it by yourself.
[00:26:14] You do need some like-minded people around you.
[00:26:19] You don't need a lot of them.
[00:26:20] You just need some people who can help you with certain things.
[00:26:26] If you don't know how to build a chicken coop, for instance,
[00:26:29] they can help you with that, or how to do an area study,
[00:26:34] or yeah, you just need that community out there of support.
[00:26:42] There's no doubt about it.
[00:26:44] You need to develop a new relationship. Say it again, Dave Jones. and
[00:26:50] say again Dave Jones that's a big COVID was a practice run. Okay. Now is when you need to say, Oh,
[00:27:07] shoot, this is what I didn't do. This is what I need to do. Hey,
[00:27:11] Carl, I got a question for you. Did you get the quails after
[00:27:14] you listened to me talk about quails?
[00:27:18] Yeah, you know, I went online, I did a thorough research, and I realized that I wanted quails instead of chickens.
[00:27:27] You know, a number, it was because they were so quick, and from egg to meat in like six to seven weeks,
[00:27:35] you know, that whole thing appealed to me. So I went out and I got my chicks, and I got eggs done, right?
[00:27:43] It was all learning on the fly, right?
[00:27:45] Because I didn't know how bad the food situation
[00:27:48] was going to get.
[00:27:49] And I got the coils in, and it's been a success.
[00:27:56] You know, during the winter time, just like with you,
[00:28:00] I thought about, should I just put them in the freezer
[00:28:02] at that point?
[00:28:03] Because they had stopped laying. But as soon as I put them in the shed because I have a shed that I you know, I moved them from the outside into a shed
[00:28:11] they started laying again and
[00:28:14] I've got a I've got a fridge load of
[00:28:17] Quail eggs is great. My family eats them. My wife actually made my wife actually made um,
[00:28:23] deviled quail eggs.
[00:28:25] Awesome.
[00:28:26] I did that with tiny little things.
[00:28:30] Tiny little things.
[00:28:32] And that was great.
[00:28:34] They've been enjoying them.
[00:28:36] I like to eat the quails, I like to eat the quail eggs.
[00:28:40] And from that you learn animal husbandry and everything else. I, you know, it gave me an insight into self-reliance that, you know, I've always, you know, put
[00:28:51] up food, done all the things, you know, like that.
[00:28:54] But in terms of trying to be in some ways self-sustaining, I've never really tried that
[00:28:59] until now.
[00:29:00] So, yeah, Dave, it was because you guys mentioned it on the air and now I have a friend
[00:29:08] who also preps and you know, he was like, you know, Carl, if I really want to do this,
[00:29:14] I know I can ask you to show me how to do it. You know, so there's that knowledge base
[00:29:18] that place and it's all because of you guys. Thank you.
[00:29:27] Man, this is great validation.
[00:29:30] You know, we hardly ever hear from anybody out, you know, and the, you know, the regulars,
[00:29:39] you know, Volcanic and they do so much for the station but to hear hey we've got a fan
[00:29:46] out there and he actually wrote a book we can promote and get or preppers I
[00:29:55] mean this this book appeal to anyone because it's about us you know the hero has to overcome
[00:30:05] obstacles it's a classic story and it gets people think yeah there's no doubt
[00:30:15] about that yeah I think you know what I feel bad about Carl is that I feel bad
[00:30:21] that this is our first time talking? You know
[00:30:25] With our voices rather than our typing with but that's kind of funny because of what we both do
[00:30:32] But yeah, I think
[00:30:35] Well, there's a bunch of stuff running through my head now, but I'm sure we'll talk offline after
[00:30:41] Yeah, I'll leave it at that
[00:30:49] there. Yeah. I'll leave it at that. Jordan, you got anything for Carl? I know he's got to hit the road here at 30 minutes till. No, I'm listening. I'm kind of like with Dave.
[00:30:59] I'm impressed to hear, you know, I know we have our regulars, but to hear you know I know we have our regulars but to hear someone outside of our regulars really exciting actually so it's interesting to see that you went
[00:31:10] from your home country to here at times not that I'm trying to sound like a
[00:31:16] nature but do you ever feel like you've left one one predicament for another Ridiculous It's a good question
[00:31:35] How everything's going and it's like okay and now I'm not saying it's just extreme but in our own sense it kind of is
[00:31:43] Well what I left what I left behind is you guys are nowhere near that.
[00:31:50] We're nowhere near that here.
[00:31:54] What I do see right now troubles me a little bit in know how how safe is our electoral process
[00:32:05] you know uh...
[00:32:06] uh...
[00:32:07] uh... it's a heck of a thing when your government realizes that they don't need
[00:32:11] your votes anymore if that's the case right different things
[00:32:15] uh... you know uh... in terms of uh... you know uh... the violence on the street
[00:32:21] uh...
[00:32:22] uh...
[00:32:23] so yeah uh... uh... know, what I see now troubles me a little bit, but I think
[00:32:29] that we can bring it back. We can bring the sanity back. And I think that, you know, as
[00:32:37] I said, through platforms like yours, you know, through the network here that you guys
[00:32:43] have and through other platforms, you guys can start saying, hey, you know through the network here that you guys have and through other platforms you guys can can start saying hey you know what we really need to dial
[00:32:49] this down and and start making the common man the regular guy the voice
[00:32:56] that that's being heard here and because no one wants the violence no one wants
[00:33:03] any of this you know it's kind of like Alfie,
[00:33:05] he didn't want any of it, right, in the book.
[00:33:09] You know, no one wants Armageddon, right?
[00:33:11] You know, only the crazies want that, right?
[00:33:14] We all have families that we're, you know,
[00:33:18] we're looking after, we're protecting,
[00:33:21] and, you know, we just want our regular lives, okay?
[00:33:24] It might not seem like
[00:33:25] much to most other people but for me I just want my regular lives. I want to get up in
[00:33:32] the morning go to work you know being able to enjoy my family. I don't want anything
[00:33:36] I don't want to say excitement or anything like that., I see some troubling parallels, you know, and, you know, I was talking with James about, you know, like the whole Anran dystopian concept, you know, where, you know, the producers got run out of town, right, and all that.
[00:34:06] And if you've ever read Atlas Shrugged,
[00:34:09] which is another, it's something I would recommend,
[00:34:11] every prepper to read is Atlas Shrugged,
[00:34:15] apart from Brave New World and 1984 Atlas Shrugged
[00:34:19] should be up there on the top.
[00:34:20] A lot of people misread Anne Rand, I think.
[00:34:24] But you can see
[00:34:27] it slipping. And I think that we need the same people to get it back. And I think that
[00:34:34] as long as you guys are out there, you know, trumpeting the truth, then I think that we
[00:34:40] have a good shot at bringing it back to what it was,
[00:34:45] you know, to reestablish that American way of doing things,
[00:34:48] you know, and not this what we see happening now, where we just
[00:34:53] at each other's throats. So, you know, I can only hope for the
[00:34:59] best, right? I'm a prepper, right? I prepare for the worst
[00:35:04] and I hope for the best.
[00:35:07] And James, I just want to say thank you so much for everything that you've done.
[00:35:12] Thanks, Dave. Thanks, Jay Fergie. Thanks, everybody. Stephen Menking.
[00:35:17] Right. You know, thanks for what you guys are doing. It's a valuable thing. It made me able to function and
[00:35:27] really think about my family and to really take the prepping to a different level. It enabled me
[00:35:34] to do that. Being able to switch on that podcast during the day and just hear what was going on.
[00:35:47] and just hear what was going on and knowing that the world is still out there was great in the middle of, in the middle, because when in the early parts of COVID, I think that
[00:35:53] we were all a little nervous and all a little, we didn't know what was coming. It was great.
[00:36:00] And just having some touchstones as to how you know what to do in an emergency,
[00:36:05] how to you know in terms of your food and your water and you think about your family and growing
[00:36:13] food and being self-sustaining and everything else and learning how to make contacts in the
[00:36:18] community because even James was talking about that in a couple of his podcasts too about going out
[00:36:23] and you know just kind of trying
[00:36:25] to see who's there and making contacts.
[00:36:28] It was all very valuable.
[00:36:29] So thank you.
[00:36:30] And I'll be listening.
[00:36:34] Well, we thank you, sir.
[00:36:35] Have a good night and great work on the books, man.
[00:36:41] Thanks, James.
[00:36:42] And when I'm done with the other one, right, which is a Christian historical
[00:36:49] fiction, right, is people discovering Christ in the future, right?
[00:36:53] You know, a rediscovery of Christ in the future, right?
[00:36:58] And we could use it right now.
[00:36:59] I just kind of wanted to take a little...
[00:37:02] Yeah, yeah. I kind of wanted to take a little... I was trying so hard to get it done, but because of the COVID issue, right?
[00:37:10] You know, I had to prioritize a few things even over.
[00:37:13] And, you know, it's a message that I really wanted to get out.
[00:37:17] Because I think that, you know, just seeing the love and the connection that you can have through living the Christian life
[00:37:29] and rediscovering, as these guys did, they rediscovered Christ in the book when it was
[00:37:36] something that most people didn't know about in the future, because all of that was suppressed
[00:37:41] and everything else. I think it's a valuable thing. So once that's done, I think we'll have another chat, James.
[00:37:49] Or call me anytime.
[00:37:52] Yeah, no doubt about it.
[00:37:53] I'm going to be calling for sure.
[00:37:57] Thanks, sir.
[00:37:58] It was a blast.
[00:37:59] No doubt about it.
[00:38:00] Thank you, everybody.
[00:38:05] Thanks, everyone. You you very welcome. Bye. Carl A. D. Brown folks.
[00:38:13] Carl A. D. Brown folks author of the book The Prepper part one the collapse and part two
[00:38:19] I don't have the title in front of me. I do apologize for that. Um
[00:38:26] title in front of me. I do apologize for that. Yeah guys, I think I don't know if you guys hear what I hear in Carl, but it sounds to me like I'm gonna have to do
[00:38:33] some negotiating in the near future for a new host on PBN. What do you think?
[00:38:38] That guy's got the... he's got a good message and he's got a good he likes to talk I could I could
[00:38:46] see him definitely sinking his teeth into a podcast I don't know if you're
[00:38:50] out there listening Carl but he'll probably be hearing from me on that
[00:38:56] yeah that's a great idea bring him on Friday night yeah something like that
[00:39:01] thing and then and then move him into one of the nights, you know, that needs help.
[00:39:06] Yeah, well, I don't think we have any that need help, but we definitely need more voices.
[00:39:11] Oh, speaking of.
[00:39:15] Two big things in terms of more voices on the network.
[00:39:21] Sam Culper is going to be bringing us reports, uh, on intelligence.
[00:39:26] We've talked about that before.
[00:39:28] Sam seems to be the kind of guy that you got to stay on a little bit, but that,
[00:39:35] so I'm going to keep at him and, uh, he's committed already.
[00:39:39] So I'm sure the fact that he's committed, he's going to go ahead with it.
[00:39:42] Um, it just may be what was
[00:39:46] that oh no problem no problem it just might be that we need to have you to
[00:39:56] stay on him yeah he'll be on I also got a hold of Christian from the Ice Age farmer over the weekend.
[00:40:07] And what he does is he takes his reports that are usually about 20-25 minutes on the agricultural
[00:40:14] system. And he puts them in MP3 form. And he's given us full permission to take that MP3,
[00:40:22] cut it up however we want and re-air it also.
[00:40:25] So effectively, if we can get...
[00:40:29] Well, at the very least, at the very least, PBN will be able to bring you a economic report from Stephen Menking,
[00:40:40] an intelligence report from Sam Culper, and an agriculture report from Christian the Ice Age
[00:40:46] farmer at least one per month probably way more than that. I know I should be able to get four
[00:40:53] agricultural reports a week out of Christian which will be just amazing going into 2021.
[00:41:01] Sam I'm not sure because we haven't done anything with him yet. Steven's usually good for about two economic updates a month. So these, I'm
[00:41:10] gonna look for more of these little snippets, man. I like these, you know,
[00:41:17] these little reports that we can put in and really give people something that is
[00:41:21] different than a podcast and really kind of focuses in on
[00:41:25] one certain area.
[00:41:27] So I'm super excited about that.
[00:41:30] That's going to be a big change for PBN and a huge added bonus for the listeners out there,
[00:41:36] you know, to be able to hear from these different voices and these kind of focused voices on
[00:41:42] what it is they're talking about.
[00:41:44] But what do you guys think Christian Ice Age farmer Sam
[00:41:47] Cooper?
[00:41:51] This one, I'm not yelling at y'all.
[00:41:54] I wanted to throw in good news on my end that we did finally get the test
[00:41:58] results back.
[00:42:00] Oh, yes.
[00:42:02] So we are COVID free within this household. I won't be able to return to work to Wednesday when
[00:42:08] her father and that family is actually out of their quarantine
[00:42:12] period for having COVID. So it is, it has been interesting, but
[00:42:16] we're still taking extra precautions of on their end,
[00:42:20] they're still going to be masked up and re disinfecting the house
[00:42:23] just ensure that there's no chance of the children picking it up
[00:42:26] After the quarantine so it has been
[00:42:30] There's been a roller coaster
[00:42:32] Yeah, no doubt about it. No doubt about it one more little snippet of news that we have to announce
[00:42:37] Especially since we have you on Jordan you'll get a kick out of this
[00:42:40] I don't know if you listened to the MOF podcast today or not. Did you?
[00:42:47] If you didn't.
[00:42:48] I didn't get to listen to it today, so I'm just going to listen to it later.
[00:42:51] Make sure you listen to it because there's a very funny moment in there. First and foremost,
[00:42:55] let me just make the announcement so it all makes sense. Disaster Coffee has released its first Its first off
[00:43:06] Label coffee called dark humor and it is the sort of the flagship coffee of the matter-of-facts podcast
[00:43:14] Okay, so so we we got on the horn with the guys from matter-of-facts podcasts
[00:43:19] They decided that they wanted to have sort of a novelty product in their own disaster coffee
[00:43:30] Proceeds still going where they go, profits still going where they go, and it is essentially a pro bono thing for them, but they have a really cool
[00:43:34] product that they get to, you know, send to their listenership and it's an awesome
[00:43:40] coffee first and foremost, right? It's our darkest blend that we have to offer
[00:43:46] It's a french roast and they they named it and everything they called it dark humor
[00:43:51] Which I think is perfect for those guys if you don't know the matter-of-facts podcast should check it out. It's great
[00:43:56] Great couple guys, but anyhow the story is
[00:44:02] We're sitting there Jordan and we're talking last night on this sort of
[00:44:06] release podcast where I'm playing, I'm playing James, the owner of Disaster Coffee for a
[00:44:10] change instead of James, the, uh, I see here at Prepper Broadcasting, which is, was an
[00:44:16] interesting role. And we're going sort of back and forth about how the, who was responsible
[00:44:24] for the coffee idea was
[00:44:25] a James was it Bobo and we came to this conclusion that it was none that it was
[00:44:30] actually Jordan it was actually Jay Fergie who was this who spawned this
[00:44:37] coffee idea and we would die him because we were like oh god I mean I even went
[00:44:40] as far as to say maybe we should change the name to Jay Ferg, but
[00:44:46] dark humor is pretty good too.
[00:44:48] So yeah, that was a conversation that you and Andrew had if I remember.
[00:44:52] And then you called me the next day and we're kind of like, look, man, could be something
[00:44:57] here.
[00:44:58] And that has all come to fruition.
[00:45:00] So now available at DisasterCoffee.com, you can get that dark humor.
[00:45:04] Yes, I was playing liaison and I hit a point where I was like, okay, no more liaison. So so now available at disaster coffee comm you can get that dark humor
[00:45:10] Yes, I was playing liaison and hit a point where it's like okay, no more liaison. Y'all have to talk directly
[00:45:15] No, I think that's great. I think that is so cool I totally forgot about it too was so weird Phil asked the question
[00:45:19] He was like so whose idea was this and I remember Andrew was trying to say it was mine
[00:45:22] And I was trying to say it hit it was his and we were both kind of like I don't think that's
[00:45:26] right at all and that's when we remembered it was it was you you called
[00:45:30] me one morning and told me yeah get on the horn with Andrew he wants to talk
[00:45:34] coffee and so yeah I think this and just so you know those out there listening
[00:45:39] particularly those who are listening that are hosts of podcasts and friends of us
[00:45:47] I think this MOF
[00:45:52] Coffee is probably gonna be the first coffee in a series of coffees
[00:45:58] That are gonna be kind of built around our friends and podcasts. You know what I mean? That'll give
[00:46:01] Yeah, I
[00:46:07] Think we've got a lot of potential here to reach new audiences. You know, and the cool thing about it is when you do it with a podcast, the disaster coffee
[00:46:14] customer base then gets to learn about the podcast.
[00:46:18] Because if they start drinking the coffee, then they're like, okay, well, I might as
[00:46:22] well listen to matter-of-facts and then the matter-of-facts listener base starts to get
[00:46:28] to know other flavors of disaster coffee and it's really I think it's gonna be a
[00:46:32] cool trade-off but um yeah just big things happening over here on this side
[00:46:38] of the fence what else what's going on with Dave Jones he seems awfully quiet is he still with us he must not be
[00:46:47] yeah no yes
[00:46:51] now I'm here can you hear me I gotcha
[00:46:53] sound good all good and I have nothing but technical difficulties we're having
[00:46:59] a windstorm here
[00:47:00] so all internet fading in and out I don't know
[00:47:04] that's a good point yeah this
[00:47:06] when when Melinda Lee put in the chat room Jay Fergie did you get your results
[00:47:12] today you know exactly what I thought pregnant
[00:47:32] That really would top off the year for you wouldn't it Jayford? Jayford cries for 30 minutes. I said this is a family affair.
[00:47:45] Yeah, that's it.
[00:47:47] Oh, by the way, I didn't get to talk to you in person about it.
[00:47:51] You handled Saturday Night Show like it was one of the best examples of the family affair model that I've heard to date.
[00:47:59] Yes, I was just gonna say that you, David, took it right out of my frontal lobe there man
[00:48:06] It was I mean there were some times that I felt like I was gonna get up out of my seat
[00:48:11] And you handled it so good
[00:48:13] Like I was like ready to go into the kids room and be like quiet down
[00:48:17] And you would be like oh and right when I was thinking that you would you would grab them and do your thing
[00:48:23] Yeah, I don't know how you do that that is a magic that is a magic trick yeah there you go yep
[00:48:30] that's it that that was that first one that measured it's like a measured kind
[00:48:37] of motherly thing you know that man that's hard to do you've got to be very
[00:48:42] I don't know if you understand how comfortable in front of the microphone you have to be to be able to
[00:48:47] do that you know because most of the time people are intently focused on what
[00:48:54] they're doing and if something comes to distract them from it it's like
[00:48:58] tremendous irritability you know what I mean it's like get away don't a podcast gonna screw my train of thought up and
[00:49:07] You've got a gift for that
[00:49:10] But it's the same with phone conversations if anyone calls me you hear me y'all my kids and we're like, okay, by the way
[00:49:15] I'm not ignoring you keep talking. I can multitask and yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what it reminds me of it reminds me of
[00:49:24] Mothers on the phone
[00:49:26] back when I was a little kid.
[00:49:29] That's what it reminds me of a lot like that, you know?
[00:49:32] Like moms talking on the phone, walking around,
[00:49:35] and they ain't quiet, don't eat that.
[00:49:37] You can go right back to the conversation, you know?
[00:49:39] That's what it reminds me of.
[00:49:41] It's that row home mother thing.
[00:49:42] Yeah, my favorite is when you look over and you see a child sticking her foot her other sister's face
[00:49:48] Don't lick that
[00:49:53] Yeah
[00:49:55] Because it's as much of the dynamic as it is trying to command in an army or a group of people
[00:50:01] I feel like my children are a little more organized than that. I
[00:50:04] army or a group of people. I feel like my children are a little more organized than that.
[00:50:11] I would love to make a little book, just a little toilet book, like a little bathroom book
[00:50:18] that was just a collection of the things that you say as a parent that you would never say if you weren't a parent. You know what I mean? Like don't lick that.
[00:50:22] You know what I mean? Like don't lick that. You know, you say things as a...
[00:50:26] Right, exactly.
[00:50:28] Get out! Get it out!
[00:50:30] You know, I find I tell my dogs that as much as my children.
[00:50:34] And I'm always, you know, the hook.
[00:50:36] Trying to get in there and get whatever it is.
[00:50:39] Like one child ate a bug.
[00:50:41] You know, when it's your younger child, you're quick to get it out.
[00:50:44] And the second one is like, you've already swallowed it I'm not
[00:50:46] gonna even try yeah there's another one there's another one you've already
[00:50:50] swallowed it I'm not even gonna try when in the world would a normal person say
[00:50:56] something like that you know it's so great yeah that's parenting though it's
[00:51:04] one of those things.
[00:51:05] You know, I appreciate the listeners who pick through the entire thing because I know there
[00:51:10] are a lot of people even while listening to that or even on phone conversations, let me
[00:51:15] let you go. You sound busy. And I'm like, no, I got plenty of time. You know, I don't,
[00:51:19] I don't see it as a, an apartment or an intrusion, but I'm accustomed to this one.
[00:51:26] So the fact that I haven't lost my regulars, and I'm sure I have lost the B listeners over
[00:51:31] it, I'm thankful for them.
[00:51:34] Well that's what makes- I'm wondering how many people stick by just
[00:51:37] to see how it turns out.
[00:51:39] Oh yeah.
[00:51:40] When's she going to throw a shoe?
[00:51:41] What's going on?
[00:51:42] Yeah.
[00:51:43] I wonder what happens next.
[00:51:44] No time to ask you to throw them right? What's going on? Yeah.
[00:51:46] Yeah. No, I'm glad they're being shot across the room right now.
[00:51:49] No, I know.
[00:51:51] No, it's that's what makes PBN so unique, man.
[00:51:54] You know, you, it's podcast.
[00:51:57] The only downside to podcasting for the most part is that, um,
[00:52:03] typically it's one person, you know, and with our network,
[00:52:07] it's new people every night, you know, and they all have their thing.
[00:52:11] You know, even though we're all preppers and we all do prepping shows, you, when you listen
[00:52:15] to the shows from one week, it's not like you're listening to the same thing in any
[00:52:20] show.
[00:52:21] That's what's weird about it.
[00:52:22] You know, you would assume, all right. It's a prepper network. They're gonna talk
[00:52:27] Food and water and you know firearms and training and every night of the week every night, right
[00:52:33] And our shows are so different every night
[00:52:36] A bit biased, but I think that's what separates our network from a lot of other networks is because we each
[00:52:43] fit from a lot of other networks is because we each pick so differently and to a completely different scope.
[00:52:48] So my show may not work for one of your listeners or vice versa, but at least everybody gets a little bit of something from somebody.
[00:52:56] So we find something that fits that niche that necessarily an entire network doing the same thing wouldn't do.
[00:53:03] Well, there is no network doing what we do. That's a guarantee. I
[00:53:07] mean that there's no
[00:53:10] Yeah, I mean
[00:53:14] Shows every night of the week
[00:53:17] Okay, and you know a website
[00:53:21] Members members only section. I mean we a one-stop shop for prepper extraordinaire
[00:53:28] oh yeah it's only getting better too yeah i'm wondering how you're gonna top this in 2021 because
[00:53:36] i'm telling you 2020 was pretty damn impressive and then we got independent validation
[00:53:42] challenge accepted okay because 2021 has to be a whole lot better than 2020 with for me fifth
[00:53:50] day you go
[00:53:58] fifth Do want to do now that I have the negative results I have been knocking out as much orders as I've been trying
[00:54:07] Yeah, yeah, I don't know if you guys saw the YouTube video, but you might be getting tapped for some fergs
[00:54:12] I don't know how that'll work. I put a little YouTube video up on the website about
[00:54:20] Contact me directly message me email me you can message me through etsy i will talk to you
[00:54:26] and we will fit your needs please please the only thing i didn't do the website thing because
[00:54:34] here's here's what so i talked to jara on friday night and he was saying it's a shame i don't have
[00:54:40] a website i said i had a website for years that didn't do shit for me. Yeah he does Facebook and he said just message me on Facebook
[00:54:52] it's Jara Welker woodworking and he does these flags and crosses and now he's
[00:55:00] doing coin holders you know for challenge coins if it's great
[00:55:05] And he just he just well, he's just a kid. Everybody's just a kid in my book, but
[00:55:15] When you've got word of mouth and other shit, you know, I've got Instagram with you
[00:55:18] I'm the revamping up my dragonfly creations page. Like I'm gonna actually start doing stuff with it. You know i've got my epi which
[00:55:26] I'm not a huge fan of epi. I'd rather you contact me directly because epi after a while
[00:55:31] Just takes so much out of what you've sold you're barely getting
[00:55:36] Yeah
[00:55:41] Yeah, no doubt about it so in uh in 2021 I was thinking that we maybe should start the year off with a, like a prepping
[00:55:49] primer.
[00:55:50] That's one of the things I've been thinking about, you know, sort of, yeah, some kind
[00:55:55] of 101 sort of thing in January, you know, just where we can rehash all of our, because,
[00:56:01] you know, we're, even if if we did like if you did a food
[00:56:05] storage show in January 2020, if you do a food storage show in January 2021 man
[00:56:14] it's gonna be a whole different show you know what I mean because of what's
[00:56:19] happened over the last year. Yeah this past year has been wow.
[00:56:30] And, and like Carl said, it was kind of a warning shot, you know, and isn't it interesting that he, he's talking about us getting him going and he's writing
[00:56:38] the perfect book to bring new people in.
[00:56:42] Yeah.
[00:56:49] to bring new people into prepping. Yeah, it's like almost a self-fulfilling prophecy that this book, if listeners are listening and they don't know how to get someone into prepping,
[00:56:56] get them this book for Christmas because it is compelling. It's a one-man struggle.
[00:57:07] it is compelling it's a it's one man struggle I mean it's it's the perfect thing to introduce people to prepping yeah I'm telling you it was it was the
[00:57:12] Erie reading that thing it was literally like yeah I read that for those first
[00:57:18] few chapters and I was like God this could be my life this could be my life. This could be exactly the things that I went through when I first got into prepping.
[00:57:30] And that's most people's story.
[00:57:32] When I, yeah, and I think a lot of that is divinely inspired.
[00:57:39] That someone told Carl, write this book.
[00:57:49] You know, I wish I could have talked to him more. Maybe we'll get another chance, bring him on again.
[00:57:52] We're gonna hear from Carl more, don't worry.
[00:57:55] Yeah, he would be a great help.
[00:57:58] Yeah, yeah.
[00:58:01] Especially where he is in prepping
[00:58:08] Who is edwin?
[00:58:10] When he said he was into the quail, um, I immediately thought of you day immediately. Hey, who is edwin?
[00:58:19] Does anybody remember who edwin is open up the skype chat oh it's win
[00:58:22] Does anybody remember who Edwin is? Open up the Skype chat.
[00:58:23] Oh, it's Wynn.
[00:58:24] Oh, I saw that.
[00:58:25] I said, who the hell is Edwin giving thumbs up in the chat?
[00:58:31] Yeah, I mean, I think guys like Carl right now, man, they are incredibly important.
[00:58:39] When you hear a guy talking about what he was talking about in comparison with you
[00:58:46] know Jamaica in the 70s 80s it's a real perspective enhancer man that's a real
[00:58:52] perspective enhancer for a time like this it you know it it's the real talk
[00:58:58] really it's the real talk like I was 13 and I lived through this and number one
[00:59:04] you're not there yet
[00:59:06] which is so important for people to hear it is so important for people to hear
[00:59:10] that it takes like a weight off your chest to hear you someone say you're
[00:59:16] not there yet you're on the way but you're not you know that takes a load
[00:59:19] off well I think things I wanted to say to him
[00:59:23] Cari you're putting a lot on the intrepid
[00:59:25] commander, but he thinks that prepper broadcasting is the answer to this country.
[00:59:30] Oh, I know.
[00:59:31] That's, that's pretty frightening, right?
[00:59:34] It's like one of our, one of our, what did, who, who said it in chat?
[00:59:41] Oh, Lucky.
[00:59:42] Lucky said there's no other network with absolutely no coordination. So
[00:59:46] if that's any
[00:59:48] If that's any any sense of what goes on here at PbN
[00:59:52] I hope they're not depending on us to save the nation, right? That's kind of nerve-wracking
[01:00:00] What I brought up in the daily audio
[01:00:04] That's a good yeah that's a
[01:00:05] good point that is a good point you know people that are listeners or people
[01:00:13] that are you know something more than in IO because IO is very limited yeah
[01:00:18] making and and it will reach a certain amount of people, but not as many as you want to get the word out to.
[01:00:27] No, no doubt about it.
[01:00:29] I'll get chin on this because you know what?
[01:00:33] When I asked him a question, bang, he's out there a hundred miles ahead.
[01:00:38] Oh, I know. I know, he's a monster. It's great.
[01:00:42] Yeah, there's a couple ways that I think about doing it. I can tell you
[01:00:46] Right off the bat that we already have another entity primed and ready to go
[01:00:52] If if anything were to happen with PB and being shut down
[01:00:58] To be quite honest though. I think and it won't probably won't stay this way forever, but I think we are
[01:01:04] I think and it probably won't stay this way forever, but I think we are
[01:01:12] Our presence is of a size that we I don't think we pose the kind of threat I don't think we would get singled out
[01:01:15] In that way, but who knows you know, I guess you never really know it only it really only takes one bad
[01:01:20] Apple to show up and listen to the right show and then go to the right people. You know, and raise enough hell.
[01:01:27] It kicked off Discord.
[01:01:28] Yeah, well that's true too.
[01:01:30] That happened almost immediately, right?
[01:01:32] That was like, we had that thing up for a week.
[01:01:37] But to be honest though, Discord is basically, I mean, Discord is basically a place where
[01:01:44] video gamers hang out, you know?
[01:01:47] Yeah.
[01:01:48] It was cool, and if not for it, we wouldn't be an element, which I really like.
[01:01:52] So you know, but I think it was all, I think we were playing in an environment where we
[01:01:58] were doomed anyway, you know?
[01:02:01] Yeah.
[01:02:02] Plus, they were getting ready to sell, so I know they were trying to make that thing as
[01:02:06] presentable as possible.
[01:02:10] The last thing they want is probably a bunch of preppers out there talking craziness.
[01:02:16] We can't have it, get them off.
[01:02:19] But hey, it is what it is.
[01:02:21] A big part of 2021, and man, I got to get to work on that thing, but a big part of 2021 And man, I gotta get to work on that thing
[01:02:25] But a big part a big part of 2021 that I want to do on a personal level is to start outfitting
[01:02:31] people like me
[01:02:34] With the knowledge that I've gained through 2020 on how to deal with
[01:02:38] What happens if you get in a situation where that happens? What happens if you get booted off patreon?
[01:02:43] What happens if you get booted off of social media
[01:02:46] What happens if your podcast gets shut down? You know all that stuff?
[01:02:50] I'd really like to put a resource together for
[01:02:53] You know those those other content creators out there, so
[01:02:58] You know they don't find themselves in the same situation as so many are right now
[01:03:01] We haven't been beaten back at all yet, which is good
[01:03:08] But we're preppers man if you don't think we don't have fourth and fifth level of response for what happens if PBN gets disappeared I could tell you
[01:03:15] what man I have I have not yet begun to fight that's all I'll say about that very cool but I do like the idea of a a moment of impact sort of
[01:03:29] response because that I don't have prepared you know we will resurface but
[01:03:34] you know I don't know it would be a 24-hour thing but we do have a lot of
[01:03:38] ways to contact people too though so I don't know but I do like your idea of
[01:03:43] something that would just sort of
[01:03:48] Take over if something were to happen. I like that
[01:03:50] Then we could test it to in the middle of the day maybe we should talk offline because I got a couple ideas from my
[01:03:54] Previous employment that we may be able to leverage and I might even be able to get you a sponsor. Oh snap
[01:04:01] Well, we'll definitely talk
[01:04:07] sponsor oh snap well we'll definitely talk no I like it I also like it because I can add it to this book that I'm working on which is what I was just
[01:04:10] talking about you know that this can be an added resource to those content
[01:04:15] creators who find themselves in hot water or you know whatever you want to
[01:04:20] call it but yeah yeah man I got theac tomorrow because i got tons of stuff to
[01:04:28] talk about now okay cool i always like it i always appreciate a day off you know you wanted to i heard
[01:04:35] the click the click yeah i'm starting to make notes you guys chat because i can only keep one
[01:04:40] train of thought in my mind. Yeah, it's nice.
[01:04:46] One of my biggest problems with PBN in early 2020
[01:04:49] was too much me.
[01:04:51] So I appreciate that.
[01:04:53] Every time you guys hop on and do a deck, I appreciate it.
[01:04:56] Because I want people to get on to PBN and go,
[01:05:00] oh, OK, this is a collection of hosts.
[01:05:03] That James guy's pretty cool
[01:05:07] If you know what, I mean, I'd rather it be
[01:05:14] Dave and Steven and you know the occasional other hosts doing a deck and you know all that stuff and that's gonna happen with These new reports to which I'm looking forward to
[01:05:17] They'll get a taste of it. You're
[01:05:19] shows every week
[01:05:22] Yeah, we won't we won't be doing that forever, but I know it's bad because my
[01:05:28] family knows it now.
[01:05:29] My kids know Monday, dad, you're doing a show tonight, right?
[01:05:33] That's what I know it's getting bad.
[01:05:35] So it won't be that way forever, but preppers live, it had to evolve.
[01:05:39] It had to take its place.
[01:05:40] You know what I mean?
[01:05:40] It's fun.
[01:05:41] It's a really cool little show and it gives us the ability to bring people on.
[01:05:46] Um, that we don't bring oh so we might as well talk about next Monday before we call it a night so next Monday
[01:05:52] Was inspired by the conversation I had last night with the MOF guys and I said, you know
[01:05:57] We got to get you guys on to preppers live both of you
[01:06:00] because they're just fun, you know what I mean and
[01:06:06] because they're just fun you know what I mean and that was sort of the idea so next week what is it the 21st of the month Monday we will do a preppers live
[01:06:11] with the the team from MOF from the Matter of Facts podcast Phil and Bobo
[01:06:16] and it will effectively be like a podcast style Christmas party so we'll
[01:06:23] we'll I don't know I'll gather some
[01:06:25] topics I'll gather some fun stuff to talk about I will probably be doing what
[01:06:31] people do at Christmas parties you know so and I encourage those guys too and
[01:06:38] they don't need much encouragement so you can warm yourself up a little bit
[01:06:43] with drink and we'll have ourselves a
[01:06:45] really off the rails preppers live next weekend. Preppers live the Christmas
[01:06:51] special or the Christmas party or whatever you want to call it you know
[01:06:54] it'll be a good one. You know what a year ago I took my youngest son to
[01:07:02] Williamsburg I don't know why I guess my I guess Carter must have been doing something with his mom
[01:07:08] But I took my youngest son to Williamsburg and we rolled up into this, you know
[01:07:13] one of those colonial restaurants and
[01:07:16] The waitress recommended I have a hot buttered rum
[01:07:21] You ever had a hot buttered rum before I
[01:07:26] Mean it is it is an amazing drink it is an amazing drink
[01:07:30] oh my god it I never had one till that day and I was just like
[01:07:34] god winter it was freezing to you know what I mean we were freezing outside we
[01:07:39] got in and I think I had like a
[01:07:41] I had a cassoulet of white beans and I don't
[01:07:45] remember what he ate and man I was cold and that hot butter rum arrived with the
[01:07:50] butter on top melted in the hot cider and rum and I was just like oh god I
[01:07:56] gotta drive home so this I can have one of these but if I were at home man it'd
[01:08:02] be nap time so I don't know I might do a little hot
[01:08:05] buttered rum next week we'll see oh yeah that's a good one oh well the guys from
[01:08:15] MOF were talking about Bailey's and the and their new coffee they were talking
[01:08:20] about dark humor and Bailey's so that's something to consider too.
[01:08:26] I don't know.
[01:08:26] It'll be fun though.
[01:08:27] We will do some fun stuff.
[01:08:30] So put your heads together on that too.
[01:08:33] You know what I mean?
[01:08:35] We'll not try to get too into the hot and heavy
[01:08:37] and maybe just have some fun for a change with prepping
[01:08:41] and prepping topics.
[01:08:43] And maybe we'll do a lottery question. one thing I always like is the lottery oh yeah you know you win
[01:08:52] the lottery what does your prepping compound look like that go that's always
[01:08:57] a good one that can get a little long-winded though but it'll be a good time no doubt about it I'll see if we can get some other hosts in too
[01:09:08] I don't know man
[01:09:12] I don't really have much else what were you saying?
[01:09:15] maybe we can see about getting Samantha back on
[01:09:20] sometime I'm good with it she's preggers though I don't know what she's feeling
[01:09:24] like lately she may not want to do any of that stuff. I don't know how she's dealing with it. She may be doing
[01:09:32] No, not yet nothing will be coming up just not yet
[01:09:37] She's still in the same phase
[01:09:40] No, not exactly
[01:09:43] Halfway through a nest and doesn't kick in until towards the end.
[01:09:47] You know what we should probably do?
[01:09:49] Oh man, I remember. She did the nesting thing, right? So I come home from work at lunchtime one day.
[01:09:57] And I'm over at the neighbor's house and I'm talking with the neighbor in his driveway and all of a sudden I see the carpet from the master bedroom come out the window and land on the ground outside. the the that I mean, you would believe how many times the same clean clothes got rewashed because it was not clean enough.
[01:11:06] Wow.
[01:11:07] Absolutely.
[01:11:08] I'm not like that.
[01:11:09] I'm that person who will pick a shirt up and do the snips test.
[01:11:18] Yeah.
[01:11:19] Yeah.
[01:11:20] My wife was a warrior as a pregnant lady.
[01:11:23] Well, she's a warrior anyway, but
[01:11:26] Yeah, yeah, it was all of it. The whole pregnancy thing with Michelle was just insane
[01:11:31] I mean everything that you everything that you hear about pregnancy and pregnant women was the opposite
[01:11:38] It was crazy. She never stopped working out. I think she got sick for like two days. I
[01:11:48] mean, I don't even remember her hardly ever being sick. And she just kept it moving, man.
[01:11:51] She just kept on grinding.
[01:11:53] And I think because of that, when she finally went into labor,
[01:11:57] it was like... I mean, we went into the hospital,
[01:12:03] and our first son was born like in an hour
[01:12:08] It was crazy
[01:12:10] Yeah, it was great. I remember we went in there and like less than an hour. I'm holding
[01:12:15] Yeah, I'm holding a kid in less than an hour. I look at the clock. It was 12 12 a.m
[01:12:20] I was like how the hell did this happen and and I thought it was a fluke second boy comes same thing
[01:12:26] You know right in there boom done
[01:12:30] I'm like, this is so great
[01:12:34] My my first game when Deanna was born, okay
[01:12:39] I mean, it was so overwhelming to me because I was 50 years old. I
[01:12:44] Thought I hadn't would never have kids.
[01:12:48] And there I'm, I'm having my first child, you know, and, and yeah, I, I never felt
[01:12:56] so huge and so big and powerful and so insignificant at the same time.
[01:13:03] And I just started balling and Maria looks up at me and says, stop crying, bitch.
[01:13:10] Yeah, I love that.
[01:13:11] I love that story.
[01:13:12] I love your wife.
[01:13:14] I know.
[01:13:14] I love your wife.
[01:13:15] You know, I can say honestly, but each delivery and each pregnancy, it was
[01:13:21] something, I mean, each one of them were so different,
[01:13:25] but so at the same time, amazing.
[01:13:30] It's funny that you, she say that to you
[01:13:31] because my children's father is sitting there
[01:13:34] and I had what you call the labor sweats.
[01:13:37] I was having that seat that hit with my last child.
[01:13:39] And he's over there shivering
[01:13:42] because they have the room down as cold as possible and he looked
[01:13:46] at me and asked me, so what's your pain?
[01:13:48] Because he's one of those who when he's scared or uncomfortable, he gives humor.
[01:13:52] Humor is not something you give me when I'm in pain.
[01:13:56] So my children were all natural.
[01:13:59] So this last one, he goes, well, what's your pain on the scale, pain scaling, pointing
[01:14:03] at the scale?
[01:14:04] And I flipped him off and told him that shut the f up and he sat
[01:14:10] back with his heated towel and just shivers but it's just interesting to see
[01:14:15] you know you're you know you had that moment where your wife was like yeah you
[01:14:21] know you're James your wife is amazing I mean both yall have amazing women. I've walked a mile every day when
[01:14:27] I was pregnant with Hadley. I wish I'd been so active with my
[01:14:30] last one. But God bless me. Our children are the reason we do
[01:14:34] what we do, though.
[01:14:35] That's true. When I held that baby in my arms, Carter, I was
[01:14:40] just an idiot. I mean, I just there was no I didn't have any
[01:14:44] idea about what
[01:14:45] prepping was. It's so crazy to think about it. My first son comes out. I had a
[01:14:50] home, we had a home, we owned a home. That was about the only thing that I had going
[01:14:54] for me outside of obviously a career and I can make money. But you know, none of
[01:14:59] that sort of responsibility even existed. I mean the idea of being prepared for anything was the only thing
[01:15:07] in my head at the time was like make sure you got salt for the snow. You know that was where I was
[01:15:14] when I had my first son because I came from the northeast that's all we dealt with you got snow
[01:15:18] okay make sure you can get to work got to make money but beyond that it was nothing and then in September of that year
[01:15:27] It all started to change
[01:15:35] Mom's always become preppers before they realize it's okay
[01:15:38] They hit the point where you always make sure you have plenty of outfits plenty of diapers and plenty of snacks
[01:15:43] Oh, yeah, well mom's always owned EDC, right?
[01:15:48] I mean, moms owned EDC for a long time.
[01:15:51] Right?
[01:15:52] I mean, that was their thing.
[01:15:54] And I still worry about that.
[01:15:58] Yeah, those pocketbooks that mothers carried were like, you know, they had all, I mean,
[01:16:03] my mom's pocketbook had everything. It crazy didn't even make any sense yeah that's what it was like
[01:16:10] out of there yeah it was basically every every dreamy DC you know and now guys
[01:16:18] make all kinds of money off of what they carry on YouTube I laugh at it sometimes
[01:16:22] like I kept this pouch and I got all this stuff in it and I think about my mom but you know there's a
[01:16:30] reason for it I think that might be it for us though
[01:16:36] yeah I could go on night and talk about pregnancy stories because when we came
[01:16:42] back to her room okay she wanted to hold Deanna and and see if she would take milk, you know
[01:16:50] And I got in her bed and I fell asleep
[01:16:55] You you got in the pregnant lady's bed and fell asleep
[01:16:59] You mean with her on the chair? Oh
[01:17:03] You know, I needed a nap it It took a lot out of me. That's a mess
[01:17:09] I don't think I slept the night carter was born. No, I didn't
[01:17:15] I know the work that I put in delivering a child you best not get to take a nap after what I did
[01:17:22] And that's the reason that's what the point that she made for
[01:17:26] the rest of my life now. Oh yeah sure you stole my damn bed when I was pregnant
[01:17:31] when I had the baby. Oh man it is a wild thing. It is a wild moment in time having kids. You know, one thing that you always want to be careful about is drawing lines between
[01:17:51] certain types of people.
[01:17:54] But I always have attested and I probably always will and I don't care who gets upset.
[01:17:59] You can't see the world the way parents see the world if you're not a parent.
[01:18:04] You know what I mean?
[01:18:05] It's just it's a different thing. It's a different set of eyes
[01:18:10] Agree with you. I have friends who get so upset at me who?
[01:18:14] They're like I'm a dog mom or I'm a cat mom and I'm not kind of taking anything away from you
[01:18:18] but you're not a parent to you
[01:18:22] You're held a child in your arms
[01:18:25] that's yours, that even if you adopt it,
[01:18:28] that is your child, you're a parent.
[01:18:29] But that is what solidifies you as a child.
[01:18:36] And it's not because I'm trying to give a jab
[01:18:38] towards people.
[01:18:39] No way!
[01:18:40] I always, one of those things I've always had
[01:18:42] in an argument, just because you have a dog
[01:18:44] does not make it your child
[01:18:45] Yes, I know you love your dog like a child
[01:18:47] But if he came to it you asked me right now
[01:18:49] I will choose my children over my dog you eat your dog if it came down to it
[01:18:58] Your kids in a box and leave them all day right exactly
[01:19:04] Come and get you. Exactly.
[01:19:07] Yeah, you've got to consider a life.
[01:19:11] I remember seeing our dog last night.
[01:19:14] You've got to consider a life that, you know, is going to outlast you.
[01:19:20] With a dog, it's like we got 10 good years, 12 good years, whatever, and then my responsibility
[01:19:25] to this animal is gone.
[01:19:27] But it's like you have to craft a future for this baby that's going to become an adult
[01:19:32] one day and when I have its own kids maybe and all that, some of that rests on your shoulders.
[01:19:38] It's a whole different thing.
[01:19:40] In the same way, and like you said, it's not about jabbing people who didn't have kids in the same way
[01:19:46] Because we've had kids we couldn't even understand
[01:19:52] How to live a life without the kids, you know what I mean at our age
[01:19:58] Say that because I was talking to a friend and I was talking to her and I was telling her, you know, I couldn't imagine
[01:20:05] Going back to a life before children.
[01:20:08] Yeah, it would take months.
[01:20:10] It's almost absolutely inscible.
[01:20:12] Right.
[01:20:13] Once I had my son, my entire world changed and there was no way of imagining my life
[01:20:18] without that child.
[01:20:20] So it hit a point where even as a prepper is I have to do whatever I have to to make sure my child
[01:20:26] Who outlives me no matter what?
[01:20:30] Right. I mean just imagine waking up on a Saturday
[01:20:34] whenever the hell you wanted and
[01:20:37] and basically going like
[01:20:40] What exactly am I gonna do with my day today?
[01:20:43] I mean that's just a life that you can't even fathom hardly as a parent, you know?
[01:20:48] And then there's some people who live that life exclusively.
[01:20:53] It's a wild thing.
[01:20:54] Right, but once you have children it changes your whole outlook on the entire world.
[01:21:00] Well I think you start looking at the world.
[01:21:02] You know, before I had kids, I don't know how much world looking I even did.
[01:21:06] You know, it was pretty, it was a pretty narrow view.
[01:21:09] My life was.
[01:21:10] You know, it was like, how can I get ahead at work?
[01:21:13] How can I be better?
[01:21:15] You know, I, I, I, what am I going to do this weekend with my money?
[01:21:19] You know what I mean?
[01:21:21] It wasn't like, what's going on in the Middle East?
[01:21:23] What the hell?
[01:21:24] You know, I could care less. I could care less, but you know what I mean, it wasn't like, what's going on in the Middle East? What the hell? You know, I could care less.
[01:21:26] I could care less, but you know what I mean?
[01:21:28] What are they doing on TV that our children are watching?
[01:21:31] You know, we didn't care then.
[01:21:32] No, I care.
[01:21:33] I care what you put in front of my children.
[01:21:35] You know?
[01:21:36] What?
[01:21:37] I care what's being taught in schools.
[01:21:39] Right, exactly.
[01:21:40] All that stuff.
[01:21:41] All that stuff.
[01:21:42] Who cares?
[01:21:43] You know, if you're a parent, I mean,
[01:21:44] if you're not a parent right now, you're probably like, yeah, this is great. Keep the kids out of
[01:21:48] school. You're not even thinking about what effect it's going to have on future generations.
[01:21:53] I mean, some people are, but anyhow, we're getting a little too far afield, I think,
[01:21:59] for a prepper's life on parental psychology or whatever. But look guys, definitely join us next week
[01:22:09] for the preppers live Christmas party. I think we're gonna have a ball.
[01:22:13] We will, like I said, this time next week we'll probably all need a break because
[01:22:17] I'm sure this electoral college shit is gonna go haywire.
[01:22:20] So bring some drink and bring some
[01:22:24] celebratory attitude. Chat listeners
[01:22:28] bring some questions and some games and stuff make it fun. You know we're gonna
[01:22:33] do our part you guys do your part and we'll have a ball. Obviously we can't do
[01:22:37] a digital gift exchange. Well maybe we can do a digital gift exchange. Let me
[01:22:42] think on that. I think the listeners should pick a word that they know we're frequent for you and they
[01:22:47] make a drinking game out of it.
[01:22:49] No, there you go.
[01:22:50] That could be a good one.
[01:22:52] That could be a good one.
[01:22:54] All right, Jay Ferg, well, thanks so much for joining us as usual on a Monday.
[01:22:58] I do appreciate it.
[01:22:59] Hey, it's all good.
[01:23:00] I'm just glad to be on here.
[01:23:03] Oh, we're glad to have you back on Saturdays. It's so good.
[01:23:08] It's so good having that family affair back. I love having it.
[01:23:12] So, uh, I guess we hit the road.
[01:23:16] Thanks so much, PBN Family, and we'll talk soon.
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