Preppers LIVE: Help NC and Prepper Camp Wrap Up

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[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome in PBN family we are live with Preppers LIVE. Dave Jones, Phil Rabila, J. Ferg is with us and

[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_03]: We got a bunch to talk about

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_03]: little prepper camp recap

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And a big chunk of how you can help how we can help how everyone can help the people who are

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Completely just stranded the news is more and more dire by the hour

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I just watched a little clip of the mayor talking about the situation in Nashville

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It's absolutely bonkers. So

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Dave Jones is on borrowed time so without further ado, let's get him in here to tell us all about I guess

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_03]: The sights and the sounds on the ride through the disaster zone

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean you can't

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_02]: really effectively do it with

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Text, you know, I was texting people and sometimes I just share a picture or video or something like that but

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Just everything so the campground was kind of like a microcosm and it was

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_02]: like of course we lost power, you know and

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_02]: The internet went out when we lost power and then some people got satellite, you know Elon Musk satellite stuff in there

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_02]: So we were able to get

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Internet but we didn't know how bad it was because we're we're a prepper camp

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_02]: You know and of course we had rain before so we didn't think anything of it. So Friday morning after the

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Craziness and everything's flooded I go get my cousin and I said hey, let's go to Walmart

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I need some hooks and some things and we can get you know, whatever we need

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_02]: We could not get out of the campground

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_02]: There were three roads you could take all three roads had massive trees over them

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_02]: And I came back reported and of course that's when I was sending you the videos James about

[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Rule number, you know a good standing rule of thumb is don't enter the disaster area

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah, and

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_02]: It was

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Unbelievable that we actually had prepper camp anyways

[00:02:47] [SPEAKER_02]: And it was the the tents the stakes pulled out the though

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_02]: The one tent had all the light bulbs broken in it

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But one and that was the only light we had for Saturday night. It was

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_02]: But we went off with about I would say 30% of the attendees on Saturday and probably

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_02]: 50 to 30% of the vendors that's just the way it was

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I was surprised it was that many to be honest from what I saw and what I was seeing. Yeah, I was very surprised when you said 30%

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_02]: even some people showed up Friday thinking we were gonna do it and

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Friday the lake was still out of the banks and to say that that thing never floods. No

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_02]: So I my cousin was there he was in a RV spot and there was a river between us

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And I couldn't get there. I drove with the car and I said well, I'm not you know rule of thumb

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't go across standing water. I'm not going over there

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_02]: So I back up and I kind of wade through it and then I didn't know how deep that was

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So I walked up around got on them a road a hard top road and then came down through 10th City and

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_02]: It was ha

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Devastated that was the group. I was most concerned about was the 10th City girl

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_02]: it was devastated and of course the

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_02]: The good thing the generator that they had

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_02]: was

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Powering the well pumps. So you had all the water you want it was just ice cold

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought he was propane over there

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I always thought the heated water was propane. I had no idea was electric

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_02]: so that that's the first day of proper camp and then the

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_02]: That night Rick said hey, we're getting out here at noon on Sunday

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_02]: He says I don't know what everybody's gonna face, but I know it's gonna be a challenge

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Because we didn't we didn't really get a lot of good information and people were asking me and I said well when you're in the class

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Just making an announcement before the class

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Because everybody came in from everywhere else and that's the way they did it back in the 1800s

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Someone new came into town. You'd say what was the news? What do you see?

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You know that's funny and and you could get real time. Yeah, it's this it's that well

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm ready to leave and I already

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, maybe I should go back to Friday Friday afternoon

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I was able to get out of the campground because

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Port chop went up on a chainsaw and sawed some trees, you know, and we were able to get out

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so I go into Asheville and there's three roads going into Asheville

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_02]: One has a tree just laying over the power lines power lines are all over the place

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_02]: There's more power lines on the ground than there are still hang

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_02]: okay, and then

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Third way one lane is cut off by a mud slide

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the one that's going to the interstate

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_02]: So I drive all the way out to the interstate now. I don't have cell coverage. I don't have

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Internet service nothing and of course the whole town is black. Yeah, there's no shops open

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, people are walking around like zombies like they don't know what to do

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_02]: They have no air conditioning

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_02]: No, you know, nothing's working. So they just walk around on the streets and

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Got a little video of that. That was kind of crazy. Well, then I go to

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I go to

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_02]: South Carolina because that's the way Walmart is so I'm going down through there. I get off the exit

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_02]: It is pandemonium

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_02]: people

[00:06:55] Yeah

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_02]: People are trying to get gas

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay at gas pumps that aren't working

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_02]: So

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_02]: They just pull up and think it's gonna work and

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_02]: share desperation

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they pull away another person pulls up. It's like you see the lights are all off

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_02]: These people are not pumping gas. Why do you pull in behind them?

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_02]: So I turn around because I figure if Walmart's even there

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't get anything anyways

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_02]: so I I turn around a four-way stop and I guess people forgot their

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_02]: How you stop at a four-way stop because the lights aren't working and

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm driving back now

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I did get cell coverage and I called home and I said look

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Listened to what I'm saying, of course Maria wants to tell me everything about what's going on here

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And she wants me to come back. Of course. I said I I'm not coming back

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I have food water and shelter where I am

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I could get stranded on the road because I don't know what's out there so

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Sunday we have prepper camp and it's cutting off at noon and this ladies in my class

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_02]: She's standing in the back. She would not sit down and I said it's it's pretty crazy out there

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_02]: This this lady starts recounting her two-day trip

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_02]: To prepper camp. Oh, no, and yes, she she came to tears

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_02]: She says I was along the street with my child begging for food get out of here

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Honest to God honest God and and then I said I told her about poor chop and she said oh poor chop already fixed itself

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_02]: We're good to go now

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Now but she said

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Come in here. She didn't you know only had a limited amount of cash on her

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, you know we go to the prepper camp with cash

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Right and I also have the emergency, you know see notes in my wallet if I have to sure

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So now I'm loaded up and I'm ready to come out. I take my map

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I got Starlink, okay

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Google it download it and

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Set out now. I'm on 26

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_02]: 26 is closed

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Interstate 26, I don't know why it was closed

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But as soon as that snafu hit my GPS was useless

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, because I have no coverage and 26 takes you out to the highway. That's that brings you up to the mountains, right?

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like I bring bring you down the mountain basically

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was just past Asheville

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And they're they're directing

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're directing you off 26

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Road closed no, you know, no one in Tennessee blah blah blah

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_02]: So I get off on this this unknown road 19 and

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm an hour. Yeah, I I

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Start out. I have 150 miles on my indicator

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_02]: That's how much gas I got and I'm like holy crap

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I have to find someplace that has gas and then I'm going down this road

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even sure if I'm going the right way. Oh good

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I passed this place where I saw that there was

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Water obviously across the road because it was about an inch of mud all the way across the road and to the right

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a mangled mess of metal

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_02]: That I can identify as a car it once was a

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even recall if it had a roof

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_03]: But it was definitely this thing went through the mudslide basically and what was left of it you saw

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and it was just

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_02]: Like I remember the the hood up and twisted. I don't remember a roof on it

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And then there's people

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Getting out of their cars because they're running out of gas and they're just walking

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_02]: one guy has a

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_02]: gun tucked in his belt I can see him walking with his gun and his girlfriend and

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm down to like 130 miles because I used up that much gas and

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going there's a one lane traffic and

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_02]: and at this guy

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_02]: He says there's no gas here in this town, but if you make it to Johnson City

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure there's gas in that town

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And and and I said well I can go like a hundred miles and he says who I don't know if you'll make that

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Jesus

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but he he tells me how to get to this Johnson City

[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_02]: But before I met him I met some other people they ran out of gas at a 7-eleven

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And they're just their plan was just to wait there until that 7-eleven opened up

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Whenever that was gonna be like in days

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like okay

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_02]: there's a I

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Pass up Piggly Wiggly or Ingles a grocery store sure and there's a line of people

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_02]: at this grocery store

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Going out the length of the grocery store down the

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Parking lot and then down again to the entrance

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, just a line of people

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they were waiting for the store to open or the store was giving free food out

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know because the refrigeration is down. They might as well say here take a turkey

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you know, it's gonna go bad anyways

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So but then how do you take it home and cook?

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_02]: unless you have a way to do all this and of course I

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Have an Atlas

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't in the car not that I could find because I had all my prepper shit

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You know on top of where I keep this stuff. It was underneath where the spare tire was

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I should have off-loaded everything and then

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm I'm driving along. I see this barn

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_02]: That was washed away in a flood and it was stopped by a bridge

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_02]: and

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And you the bridge is unpassable

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_02]: The water the had washed the road out and the only thing left was asphalt

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_02]: So you only had like one lane and you were taking your life in your own hands just going down the lane

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, one time I turn a corner

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_02]: There's this hillside with nothing but pine trees and they're all snapped off

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Like half of them are across the road. They cut enough that one lane could get through and then

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm coming out my

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_02]: My engine indicator my fuel indicator light comes on

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Now I know it's really getting serious

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And I say to myself well, of course all this time I'm praying my butt off

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I make you only imagine what you're actually thinking

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And I said please God let me get home tonight to my family. Let me find a gas station please God and

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_02]: The indicator light comes on so I know I have like

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_02]: Two gallons left, you know and it says 30 miles. That's it 30 more miles

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_02]: After all this destruction and just constant, I mean it's it's a wasteland. It's apocalyptic. It's

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You can't describe it. I felt

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_02]: worse

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Then I did when I was in Baghdad

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_02]: That's how bad it

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, I

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Get up to this intersection and there's two state troopers

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_02]: They help this truck back up and then pull out and they're just standing there talking

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I put the window down and I said guys

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Can you tell me if there's any gas station right around here?

[00:15:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm almost out of gas and the guy says yeah right there turn right quarter mile up the road

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_02]: There's a shell station. It's pumping gas. I'm like, oh my god. Thank you evil police

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I make a right go up there. There's like a hundred people getting gas one guy

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_02]: has a

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Home Depot bucket a five gallon bucket. Oh, is that thing all over again?

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_03]: It was yes under the colonial pipeline

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, putting them in plastic bags

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yep

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like that now I'm I get into the line there and it's pumping really slow because everybody's draining this tank and

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_02]: And they have internet

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Wi-Fi I'm able to get on I fill the car up

[00:16:34] and

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Then I'm able to get on

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_02]: 26 and go to 81 and head up but the trip that normally takes around seven hours

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Took over 10

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I'm telling you they're not the news media is not covering it

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's a it's a black eye for Biden and

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_02]: they

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm hundreds of people are going to die there were towns

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Towns I'm saying that were wiped off the face of the earth

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_03]: That the death know if they'll ever recover this place this place will ever recover

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Everything looks like a billion-dollar job to me every section I look at

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not gonna be days till they it's gonna be weeks till they get power back

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I I saw the side of this one mountain just slid off and

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And I I don't know, you know

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_02]: What was underneath it?

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_02]: It's gone. Yeah, it's gone now. Yeah

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_02]: It was the the destruction was just

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know, you know when Katrina happened

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_02]: The hurricane the National Weather Service who are

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Always wishy-washy three to five two to four, you know that kind of stuff

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_02]: They said in the Katrina one there will be death

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_02]: There will be destruction, you know and and it though if you Google it

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_02]: You can find it the National Weather Service warning on Katrina

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And it was too scary to read NBC News said that's too scary to read it'll cause panic

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing nothing like this

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Was out there. Yeah, you got rain. Yeah, it's gonna be rain, but they've had rain before

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_02]: It just the ground became soup and

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Everything slid it was just

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Unbelievable it is it's monumental

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It's absolutely insane looking from above and I've been watching it for days and days and days. I

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_03]: felt like I

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Felt like my kids were there

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what it felt like with you guys there

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It was like oh shit and what you just said about mountaintop sliding off. That's all I thought about

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_03]: That's all I was thinking about was something's gonna slip slop down the damn

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Orchard Lake campground and just

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Disappeared someone from the PBN ranks for good

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It was where you know that

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_02]: That hill that we drive down and you make the left to go into where the vendor area is and yeah in the tents, right?

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_02]: well

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_02]: There must have been like a gully. You can't see it because of the

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Foliage but the water was coming out of there like a hose and it does a

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_02]: three-foot divot

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_02]: In the road. Oh my it goes. Yeah, and

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_02]: It was still running on Saturday just running just

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Horn yeah, yeah, I think you're right about hundreds dead

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Because we're yeah, we're already over a hundred dead

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_03]: and yeah

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_03]: The reports on the missing in North Carolina are epic

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_03]: like I'm talking

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_03]: nearing a thousand

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And I have to imagine that's only gonna get more crazy. You know what I mean? Oh

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean even after

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_02]: you know even after because of the

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_02]: The stuff that's happening right now more people are gonna die they're gonna die from

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Not having good water. Oh, they're gonna die

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Not yeah not having food or shelter and I guess they're getting more rain now

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean it's just I hope they got some kind of catchment

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what they really need to figure out some kind of massive catchment situation. I

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Heard three weeks. I heard three weeks today for water. I

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't get water to these people

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, and that's tremendous. I mean that's that's an undertaking. That's crazy

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean to imagine over the next three weeks

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_03]: With things looking the way they look that we're gonna be able to get water to everybody who needs water for three weeks

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and people just pulling up and not hey

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_02]: It's no electricity nothing's working

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_02]: But they just continued to pull up thinking that hope beyond hope my card will work and my card

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Will will get me gas and

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just it was crazy. It was like

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Some kind of mindset

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was panic and desperation

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm shocked that I didn't see people just busting in windows and taking stuff

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm shocked, but I give it to you

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm sure it's happening right now because

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_02]: It it went down on Friday and this is Monday

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's all fun and games until you run out of food and water. That's it

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's the deal

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow we

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Changing earth Sarah Hathaway in the chat said are you heading out Dave Jones?

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'm heading out. Thanks. Thank you for that compelling

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Compelling story man. That's yeah, that's wild

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Changing earth. See ya. See ya Sarah Hathaway in chat says South Carolina mess to landslides everywhere

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah wild

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely wild folks

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_03]: so

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, man. This is this is the situation

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_03]: This probably seems all too familiar to one Phil Rable a who lived through Katrina

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Right, you did your thing you were in the

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Cajun Navy are helping in that in that right?

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well Gillian and I are sitting here listening to everything that

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Dave was laying out for us and not like I just

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You know typed into the chat like maybe I'm just maybe we're just super jaded at this point

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_01]: But like none of this is a surprise

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Like this is this is hurricanes. They they dump one to two feet of water

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You know it an F a cat for hurricane has the same wind speed as an F2 tornado, but it covers three states

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That's that's hurricanes. This is what you get

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know like lakes jump links jumping their banks rivers jumping their banks landslides

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_01]: massive devastation that wipes out a dozen zip codes

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And all the downstream effects of that being like lack of power lack of fuel lack of water lack of food lack of emergency services

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Looting probably won't start on day one, but probably about day three. I mean

[00:24:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean and I don't say any of that to sound like a know-it-all but like

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Gillian and I both lived through her can Katrina, you know at the time I was in the Louisiana National Guard

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So I was between Bat Rouge and

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Belches, hey, Louisiana running flight ops trying to get people off the rooftops like that's what I did during Katrina and

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: more recently we had our tea our butts handed to us by Hurricane Ida which

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_01]: you know we

[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_01]: We knew I would I will say I misjudged when we saw Ida coming in I

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of read the tea leaves. We've been watching hurricanes our entire lives

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And I was convinced this thing was going west of Bat Rouge cat to cat three mags

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_01]: We'd had about 40 mile an hour winds and we wouldn't have anything to worry about and then that storm

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_01]: strengthened almost a cat five and turned hard east and at that point

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Once I had made that turn like we were locked in we we would have been in danger to get on the road

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Ida also had the brown ocean effect, which has never happened in the US where it came over land and

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_06]: strengthened using its own rainwater

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And that's why we had such a bad time with that but

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Katrina was awful and

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Watching everything that I'm seeing on social media and

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_06]: Watching the build-up for this storm. I mean man James there were so many triggers

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_06]: It was just like oh my god

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I wanted to get out like I wanted to to evacuate and I'm not even in Florida and it was just so many just

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_06]: bad memories of

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_06]: of what happened during Katrina and

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Dave is right. They they certainly don't talk about hurricanes

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Or write up, you know things like they used to when Katrina hit because it does scare people well

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Hell they need to scare people they need to get people out of there and now we're

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_06]: We're seeing such I don't think the death toll is

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_06]: What we're gonna see I think we're gonna see in the thousands

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_06]: There are thousands missing and they don't know where they are

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I've got a headline here

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Listen to this headline real quick in terms of death toll death toll triples in Asheville and there's a quote that says

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_03]: There were bodies in the trees

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm. There were bodies in the tree for Katrina

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Really? There were there were bodies floating down the road. There were bodies

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_06]: everywhere for Katrina and I think that's

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Why Phil and I have been so passionate about this one is because like I put in one of the chats

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_06]: I said guys were reading the tea leaves. It doesn't look good and we're that's why we decided not to go

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_06]: one because I

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_06]: get I get

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_06]: Stress out in anxiety just hearing the wind blow through trees since Ida

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_06]: I

[00:27:06] [SPEAKER_06]: Didn't want to do that in a tent

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_06]: even if it

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_06]: Took a turn and it

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_06]: Lost its strength and everything like that. It was still too scary for me to want to be in that

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_06]: Katrina and Ida have done it for me

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_06]: Plus we've had all these little ones in the meantime Piper was six months old when Isaac rolled through and that wasn't a fun one either

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's only cat one cat two. It was a one or two

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It was I mean compared to Ida it was a pipsqueak, but it was still enough

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_03]: So what was what was recovery like in time frame water resources that kind of stuff after Ida

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_06]: For Ida. Yeah

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_06]: It really depends on where you were um south Louisiana. Well, I say south Louisiana so further south

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_06]: South of lake poncha train it was weeks

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_06]: Up here it was about a week to two weeks

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Eight I mean we had we had some power restoration within four days

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So with after four days after Ida we were starting to see

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_01]: The areas closer to the center of town were coming back to power which meant you could actually get gas finally

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But full power restoration across our entire area was about eight days. We were out for eight days

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_01]: But yet you're I mean bagelians, right? If you go like we're north of new Orleans

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_01]: We're north of lake poncha train if you go

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_01]: south of new orleans like down into

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_01]: True Cajun country where they're like, you know way way up against the gulf. I mean eight weeks

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Eight weeks. There there are still

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_06]: It's been two years two and a half years almost three

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_06]: There are still um cities in uh on the gulf coast that haven't rebuilt

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They just haven't rebuilt from Ida which is very similar to what I saw after Katrina because after hurricane Katrina

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I was I worked one of my jobs through colleges working for an h-fat company down in shaw med Louisiana

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And there were some houses that were rebuilding and we were putting you know part of that rebuild process

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_01]: They gutted these houses down to bare bones. We were putting brand new air conditioning units in them

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_01]: But you would have a street and half the houses have been rebuilt and the other half looked like the day after hurricane Katrina and this is

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_01]: 2000

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_01]: 2005's when Katrina hit I'm talking about when I was working for a boucher that had to have been about

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_01]: 2008 so we're talking about three years later and people took their insurance checks and walked away from city never came home

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And those houses just sat

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_01]: With with the debris line five feet off the ground

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess that's what i'm saying like

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_01]: you know to to me

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: When gillian and I had this kind of the the conversations started very early in the week because I was looking at this storm

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and I was looking at spaghetti malls as early as sunday

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_01]: You know gillian and I were initially concerned

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And then every it seemed like every eight hours

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Concern turned to worry and the worry turned to oh my god both

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you know finally james like when I told you i'm pulling the plug my family's not going to this

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_01]: You know that was a difficult decision for us because like I I look forward to prepper camp for 11 and a half months

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I know it man as soon as I get done unpacking

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_01]: As soon as I get through unpacking and cleaning everything and putting everything away. I'm ready to go do it again

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I love this event. I love spending the time of their body

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_01]: but

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_01]: the

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_01]: The potential for catastrophe was written all over this from the word go

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was like I told you before before you even made the decision to pull out yourself

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like it it doesn't matter if a tree lands here or there

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter if that river jumps its banks or this river jumps its banks

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter if orchard lake is left standing when this is over

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Or orchard lake goes wipe off the map the potential is there because hurricanes

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You know get in front of a hurricane it's like playing rush and relete with five loaded cylinders

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't get to pick you don't get to pick what gets torn up and what doesn't you don't get to pick

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Which mountainside gets flattened?

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_01]: You're just there for the ride at that point

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So it was one of those situations where it was like, you know

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_01]: If trouble had come to our front door and we had a hurricane bearing down on us

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_01]: We would have made a decision on do we ride it out here where we have

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Months worth of preps where we have our local network where we have all the things we need where the deck is stacked in our favor

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Do we ride it out here or do we evacuate?

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_01]: But there was no scenario

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_01]: In reality where I was going to attempt to ride this thing out 700 miles away from home

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't matter if it was a tent a house or a bomb shelter didn't didn't matter

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It the juice was not worth the squeeze

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_06]: I have to say too after katrina and i'm not so sure with ida because we weren't as involved in this on the south shore for ida

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_06]: um, it was probably two months before

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Um emergency officials opened the roads for even people who lived there

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_06]: To come into their homes and start cleaning up like we weren't even allowed to come in

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_06]: I can remember walking into a friend's

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_06]: um trailer

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_06]: House trailer house or whatever

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_06]: And they had gotten 10 feet of water on the bayou

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_06]: and the smell was awful and

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Nothing was left like there was nothing

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know what door or window it washed out of but nothing was there

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_06]: And that's what these people are dealing with they have their lives have been

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Washed away if they even have their life. Yeah, and the

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_01]: To me the the people that have lost everything

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Is heartbreaking the ones that I feel the worst for though like we have we have a friend of ours who has

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Family who has a very close friend in that area

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_01]: He knows that the his home is in the damage path. He knows his friend is likely impacted

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_06]: He cannot get a hold of him and that yeah, he texted us today and said he thinks he's dead

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And i'm just going to tell you like I I agree with y'all that the death toll from this is going to be in the thousands

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_01]: but the problem is is that

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Even once you get through counting the people who died in the floods and the landslides

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And the the trees falling your the the the officials will not count the people who get a case of dysentery

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Because drink drink bad water they will not count the people that eat spoiled food

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And therefore they get some kind of stomach bug

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_01]: The problem with a situation like this is something that like I saw in iraq

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not always the event that causes the death

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It's everything that happens after the event and that very often causes even more casualties. So like

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You know james, I know you and I've talked about like if there's anything we can do to fundraise for this area

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_01]: If there's any way we can get help to these people

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But i'm just going to tell you that any any resource that can be spared to help get these people out of harms

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Away and keep them safe

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_01]: We should absolutely make every attempt to provide to them because

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Having having lived through

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_01]: a couple of major natural disasters

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I can tell you that like, you know the first one I lived through katrina

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I had a flag on my shoulder. I was with the do d so

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't eating great, but we had plenty of memories of water and the second one being hurricane

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I had a like, you know, we were we we had everything stacked in our favor. We had

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Trees down in the front yard. We had power at it. We had a power outage for eight days

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But we had all the food and water we needed for months

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_01]: We were gilling and I and my daughter were very well taken care of because we had prepared ahead of time

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_01]: but there are

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Tens if not hundreds of thousands of people scattered across that area

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Who are not in that situation and who desperately need help?

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_03]: No doubt about it

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_03]: In uh in the chat room. We've got operation dash airdrop.com. This is a organization that is

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_03]: basically flying helicopters in and out of

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_03]: A few places if you go to the website, you can see where they're dropping the helicopters into one of them's a walmart parking lot

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And basically delivering

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Goods the only way I think that goods are going to get delivered for a little while there. The reason I say that is because

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_03]: uh

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_03]: mercury one

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_03]: and tim kennedy

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh are both doing similar operations

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_03]: So those guys are doing helicopter stuff only and I guess that you know to me that says hey

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_03]: This is either the most efficient way or probably the only way

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_03]: To get things where they need to go

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's kind of where I've opted to send my money disaster coffee

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_03]: With the help of phil rabble and bobo

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_03]: We're also sending those guys some coffee to keep their eyes open because I don't know how to fly a helicopter

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_03]: But i'm sure it

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Coffee helps after about days and days of doing it

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_03]: So oh in the show description, we also have a list uh from a local news network in north carolina

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Of a number of different charities that you can send your money to uh american red cross is on the top

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't recommend american red cross. I'd look for something with north carolina in the name

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And uh, you know

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_03]: My only concern with the local donations and you guys could probably speak to this

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Um or the local donors is I don't know how operable they are

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so in other words we send money to a north carolina food bank

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if they have a food bank, you know, they might have a warehouse that's underwater

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And and I don't know if they're going to be able to take full advantage of that

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_03]: That's why we've opted for the uh operation airdrop because they're already doing missions

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_03]: They've been at it for a couple days now. So yeah, whatever you could do. I mean it's going to be uh

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be ugly. I think it's I think in all honesty

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Because of the terrain

[00:36:49] I mean

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be longer than we can even imagine that these people are going to suffer because I mean

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Hurricanes hit places that are flat

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Correct me if i'm wrong, right? But primarily, I mean

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Traditionally, you know your coastal areas are very flat and very close to

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_01]: You know very close to sea level, but I mean that's kind of the double-edged sword is that

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Close to like even even here on the north shore like punch train when we get a good hurricane

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll get six feet of storm surge

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_01]: About a mile and a half south of us

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's got to go up

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You know 20 plus feet above of elevation to get from where they are to where we are

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_01]: So we usually don't see anything worse than about street flooding

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But the the hard part about this getting so far up in the mountains and the reason I think it's going to be such an

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_01]: awful storm this storm was awful in florida

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_01]: It's but it's it's just as bad that far up there because

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_01]: You know if you get I saw the rainfall estimates I saw

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Before the storm and I haven't seen the official rain gauge was something like 30 inches over over 48 hours in the ashville area

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and 30 inches of water

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Is you know do the math almost three feet?

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But the problem is when you have mountains involved you don't get three feet of water on the peak of a mount goes downhill

[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So you wind up with 10

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_01]: 12 15 feet down in the valleys and that's just

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_01]: That is a that is a level of rainfall that cannot

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_01]: By definition evacuate fast enough

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and it has to go someplace and I mean the

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_01]: The devastation I've seen in terms of broken dams mudslides catastrophic flooding

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_01]: it's

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how I don't know how to put it into terms like I I tried my best to try to like

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Try to get you all know ahead of time like this is going to absolutely decimate that area

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think it comes back. I mean there's part of me that wonders if it ever comes back

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Um area it won't come back like it normally does like it was

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_06]: We still have blighted communities in new orleans. Um, some of the wards are blighted still

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_06]: They're at one point there were celebrities that were coming in to clear the blighted areas and build homes and things like that

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_06]: um, but unless

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_06]: These this area which is three states four states five if you count Tennessee

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_06]: Um unless

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_06]: There is not only just fema that has to come in which hasn't come in yet from what I understand

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_06]: It was only declared a state of emergency

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_06]: yesterday

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And so now fema's rolling in well fema is

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_06]: fema is not going to

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_06]: They're gonna do good. Don't get me wrong, but they're not gonna they're not gonna rebuild it like it was

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_06]: um

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_06]: And you could get some celebrities that come in there and rebuild or whatever

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_06]: But some of these places are not going to rebuild and I think you'll start to see too

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_06]: Well, maybe not so much. You see down here as hurricanes come in and out every summer from june 1st till november

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_06]: 31st november 30th whatever the end of hurricane season is

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_06]: People just get tired of dealing with the stress and anxiety and they move

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_06]: I can't tell you how many times I've told phil every summer. We're ready to go

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't want to live down here anymore

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Let's move to the mountains where this doesn't happen and unfortunately

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_06]: My own crow with mill and yeah

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, but this has been the thing that I've said over and over and over for the eight years that you know

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Andrew and I podcasted together seven years before my wife and I started podcasting it together

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a disaster to be had everywhere on the globe

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna get something somewhere to me the the thing that the lessons that have to be learned is

[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_01]: First of all like to to find good intel sources and to be meant to make proactive decisions

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_01]: so like

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I would say for the people who for the like some

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Dave mentioned orchard lakes and oh it never floods here

[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Take take that word always and never and throw both of those in the ocean

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't even want to hear him again because everything can flood

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So I would just say that like everyone needs to find intel sources that they

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_01]: They believe are credible and make proactive decisions about do we stand our ground or do we leave and if you're in a low lying area

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Standing your ground is dangerous. It's a decision that Gillian

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I make every time we talk about hurricane season because where we live

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_01]: We're like three feet away

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_01]: We're three feet above sea level away from the highest point on the in this entire town

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So if our house floods we have serious mega problems all across this area

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not impossible, but it's unlikely. So we're very comfortable standing our ground where we are

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Part of that's because before before I signed my name on the mortgage

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I looked up the g the the grs data to find out what's the elevation point of this house

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_01]: What's the elevation of everything around us like that's an old school

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_01]: My dad would never call it a prepper trick

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's an old school prepper trick my dad taught me

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Was know what your elevation is if you're if you have to worry about flooding

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean the only thing I know to tell people is is like

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're watching this and you're not in that area then consider this a very sobering warning that mother nature does not take

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_01]: She does not play favorites. She doesn't take prisoners and she does not play fafo very well

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_01]: If you if you see if you get in front of a hurricane

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get the full fury of mother nature and even if you survive it

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to suck in ways that you probably have been better off going someplace else

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but if you're gonna stand your ground

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I could tell people is like if you're gonna stand your ground in front of a hurricane

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't plan on being rescued for a few days and stack the deck in your favor every which way humanly possible

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And even that may not be enough

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_01]: As is evidenced by what's going on up there now

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_03]: How do you guys think joe biden feels having to call up elan musk for starlink help with fema?

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I I don't think

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that joe biden is running the country and i'm sure that i'm sure his puppeteers told him to do it

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think he thinks much

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean at this at this point

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_01]: The real lesson here is that when you're in a situation like this wherever you can get resources is a good place to get them

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_01]: because

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_01]: The situation in north carolina and tennessee and south carolina and georgia and florida right is so catastrophic right now

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_01]: That like anyone that can lend any assistance has to be welcomed because those people are literally lives hanging in balance

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And the ugly tree that jasmine is uh

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Currently jasmine beyond the our one of our listeners is currently in north carolina

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_03]: and uh

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean doing her damnedest

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Get home. No, I mean definitely that but she's also i think she said she was providing people with starlink

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Also while she was up there

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_05]: If you want we can add her on and he's up for jumping off. Oh, does she want to come on?

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, why not? Yeah, do you want me out of her? I mean just she's probably bored out of her mind

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I gotta imagine if you want to for sure. Yeah bring her on definitely

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Because she's she had a hell of a ride getting there and

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_03]: She had cars break down. I don't want to spoil it. She probably would like to tell it the way it was but

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it was it I was I was following along with her adventure. It was a war story. Yeah

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but yeah, I mean that I don't want to monopolize the whole show man. I just

[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, everything everything davis talked about in relation to hurricanes is all well within bounds

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's thanks gillian and I and everyone on the gulf coast has lived through many many times

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like you know, we try to give some heartfelt warnings to everybody to say hey that like

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_01]: this

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Will suck in ways that

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Cannot be avoided

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And it sounds to me like everybody because I mean I've talked to sarah. I've heard from dav

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Sounds like everybody kind of ran into exactly what I was afraid they were going to

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_01]: One thing I know to tell you is at this point like

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_01]: The folk the focus has to be right now on saving lives

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So whatever we can do to get help in that area it needs to be done

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's it's a weird sacrificial thing what's happening in north carolina because

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_03]: There's potential for I mean if this thing doesn't get buried which it probably will get buried because people get bored too

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_03]: fast to even care about a catastrophe like this

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_03]: By the news

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_03]: But you know, this could be a moment in 2024

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Like a like a true american moment where we set aside this

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Stupid ass election for five minutes and go

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_03]: All right, all hands on deck

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's really help out the citizens of this country. It doesn't matter which political party we're jockeying for in november because

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_03]: These people are doomed without our help

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, you know, I don't know if that's something that could happen

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_03]: But it certainly feels like it could be

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_03]: A moment for america, which we haven't had a moment for americans sometime

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_03]: You know america as a whole to sort of respond and

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Do the things that that we used to do a lot more often, you know what I mean

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_06]: And let me add one more thing because during after katrina. I worked with um a bunch of uh school school age children who

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_06]: Whose lives were uprooted and while yes food and water is necessity

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_06]: We need children we need people to stay alive with food and water

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_06]: think of donating to um

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_06]: Some charities where you can donate games and puzzles and books and

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_06]: Things that are going to keep children from

[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_06]: The trauma that they just went through

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Um helping them to deal with that trauma that they just went through. Maybe they've lost a loved one

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe their house is gone

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, the other thing that they'll find is

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_06]: School probably won't resume until after christmas. I would be shocked if it resumed in some of these places

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_06]: after christmas

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Because all of those places are gone and so

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_06]: We we want to make sure that everyone's physical needs are met but also think of places that you can donate to

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_06]: For people's spiritual well-being and keeping them uplifted in in this time

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah try not to cry

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's I mean it's real

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_03]: It's real man. It's uh, it's as real as it gets for those people. I just you know, I can't say that I've ever even been touched by

[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_03]: A situation close to what it is those people are going through right now, you know, so for me, it's very foreign

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I and you know, we're the uber conservative with this kind of stuff. That's why I do what I do

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_03]: That's why I'm the guy who owns the prep or broadcasting network. You know what I mean?

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_03]: So well any go ahead

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, I didn't mean to cut you off man

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_03]: No biggie, man

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, I mean, but that's that's something you and I talked about because like

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I know you and I were texted back forth a lot throughout all this because I think both was were

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Frankly scared as scared as hell that we were going to hear some very bad things about our friends up on the mountain

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_01]: but like

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_01]: You and I both kind of echoed the same thing was like

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_01]: We got into the preparedness lifestyle

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Above everything else out of an abundance of caution like where I'm very

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I draw comparisons to like the concealed carry community where

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_01]: We tell people all the time if you're going to carry a gun every day that you need to

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you need to be very risk aversion need to de-escalate you need to walk away from danger

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's not worth pulling your gun if you can find a way to deal with problem without your gun

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's that's that's pretty standard advice across the whole concealed carry community

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's a lot of the reason why

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like you and I both kind of said

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It seems it seems like it's safer to just go someplace else

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, I mean it was well, you didn't know you may have known

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you've known it but you talked about reliable intel at the head of the show

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_03]: You were my reliable intel through this thing phil because I said all right

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Well in my in my role at the I got a I got a pretty hefty rolodex after all these years

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And there are people I go to when things are happening in my life around me

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And uh, you're the hurricane dude like under hurricane dude is phil. That's where I go for expert advice. You know what I mean

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I really don't want to be the hurricane dude

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know what I'm saying like I'm going to the guy who has the experience in the realm that I'm going to and that when you start going

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know about this shit james. I'm going. Okay. Well, maybe I don't know about this either

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And you played a big role in it for me

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_01]: gillian and I both have our hurricane maribages and um, you don't get extra credit for getting it twice

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_01]: You pretty you pretty much get it one time

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That you you you can you can you can you can live the rest of your life quite comfortably never happened to do it again

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_03]: roger that

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Jay furg any luck with jb or no

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I it's calling her now. I guess if she probably you know god only knows what kind of reception

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_03]: She got going

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_05]: For whatever reason I couldn't find the actual ad people and it said add invite

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And so it sent her an invite now i'm getting her actually added in

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I know why did they do this that why did they mess with the ad button the ad button?

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I just figured you were the queen of the ad button for years and then I figured out how to do it

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And then they changed the shit on me. I said what is going on it?

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_03]: It's trying to call her. Oh, it's good. It's fine. It's okay to have silence in a podcast. I know it's scary

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I saw everybody gets scary quiet

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So again folks, uh

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, I forgot to tell you well, you know what listen to pbn news tomorrow

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to announce what I'm going to do to sort of uh, excite the donation base on pbn. I've got a little something special

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Uh to see if we can motivate people to give some money to these folks

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'll tell you about that in detail tomorrow because I think we have uh jb where the jasmine where this i'm sorry

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_03]: That's my made up nickname for you. I don't even know if anybody calls you that jasmine but I

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how it came to be. I just did

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_03]: How are you?

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm doing pretty good. Um, we're in a hotel in Hendersonville

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, where my rental car broke down on the way back home. So anyone rental car five now or six? What is it?

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_07]: This is rental car three

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Who are these companies fly by night rental company or what?

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_08]: um, well, like I got a toro

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_08]: And uh, south dakota when I dropped off the u-haul after my car broke down

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_08]: And after having to return the u-haul back to south dakota. So it was like a lot of going back and forth and

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_08]: It was definitely a trek

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you you guys I'll tell you what you should all get writing yourself

[00:51:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Dave jones, sarah j ferg

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_03]: You guys should all write this stuff down type it up whatever the situation is because there's details in life that start to disappear

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_03]: you know moments

[00:52:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Moments after something like this happens, but I it would be phenomenal to look back. I'm sure for you and if you from the start

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_03]: of the whole thing jasmine because you were you were kind of like

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Pressed as immediately out the door right how many hours were you into your ride to prepper camp before it was? Oh god?

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_07]: ah

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_07]: work like 44 hours

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_07]: into like

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_07]: my my trip

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Trevor cams and on top you said 44

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_03]: 44 hours. Oh you're currently 44 hours in

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, no that was total for

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_08]: getting there

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_03]: um, oh 44 hours total just to get to the campground

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, just to get to the campground and so like we pretty much traveled the length of the country twice going back to south dakota

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And you stay you didn't stay in orchard lake right?

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Did you stay outside of where I couldn't tell exactly what your whole story was because I was just getting it in bits and pieces

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_03]: from video and chat

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Were you staying at the campsite or are you?

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_08]: I was actually in ashville

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_08]: um at the clarion hotel

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_08]: at

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_08]: the night of the hurricane and

[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_08]: When I was I was looking out the window. I was like, oh, this isn't that bad until I got

[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Out into the city

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_08]: And started seeing because like I'm used to seeing tree sway we get like

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_08]: 95 mile per hour galing winds where I'm at because we're off the coast so I'm used to seeing my trees bend

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_08]: So but until I like got out onto the road and started seeing I was like

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, this infrastructure was not built to take on this much water

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_08]: The shallow root systems like the trees were literally just

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Pulled up from the roots and it was I was just like wow this this is this is bad until like once I actually got to see

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_08]: The town and then getting there it took about four hours to get into saluda

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Because I had to take like five different routes kept getting one down tree to the next power lines that were crap

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Like it was it was pretty difficult

[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_08]: To get there so

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_08]: And it was pretty devastating and right now. I'm just here in well, I'm a sitting duck

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_08]: Just trying to add some morale boosters to the locals giving them access because cellular services are down still and they'll intermittent

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_08]: They do have some places with power

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_08]: That because alignment have been working like 24 seven getting power lines and trees and making sure that they can get at least the main strips up and going

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So what's your game plan being that you're so are you currently at the clarion?

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_08]: No, I'm currently at the fair view

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_08]: By marriott and Hendersonville

[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, you're still in it

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I'm still in it

[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_08]: like

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Making the best of the situation

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_08]: But um, I'm gonna be leaving tomorrow

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh with some family that are in greenville. They're gonna come down and pick me up and get me on a plane

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_03]: So you're headed to charlotte to fly out

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, yeah, you are the you are the sole

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Survivor left you win the prize you stayed the longest if this were alone, right? You

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_03]: You've been there. I think everybody else has made it out in home anybody heard from dug

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't hear from l duglass hoag and that he's back and everything. I mean, I'm sure he was dug didn't make it back

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, yeah, I was gonna say he's made it back and he's home and safe and

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, he actually I have to check one in the message. He actually told me the route

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_05]: He took and how long it took him to get home. I saw his video. It was awesome

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_03]: He made a straight up like survivor man video

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty good. Yeah

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_08]: It it was really good. Um, I also saw that there are

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_08]: parts of tennessee and kentucky that got hit pretty bad on this hurricane as well

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Took out some bridge and flooded some

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I wonder how often hurricanes make it into the mountains

[00:56:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Like this, you know

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And you know growing up in the Ozarks with family also in the ablations and all of those mountains

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_05]: It typically

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_05]: With these storms they die down and we get a lot of wind and a lot of rain. Yes, so

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_05]: it's

[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm more familiar with the tornadoes. I mean, I've been through three

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_05]: up close and personally

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_05]: So honestly with the hurricane coming to hit

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_05]: We weren't concerned only because being in the mountains were usually shielded up that high

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_05]: And again like last year there was a hurricane that hit right at the same timeframe last year

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Right after prepper camp here on the east coast it, you know, it had charged up

[00:57:09] [SPEAKER_05]: But didn't do much and we seemed to always have a hurricane right about this year every year

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_05]: So for us it really especially going up into the mountains. I really wasn't worried about it. I prayed on it

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I felt great about it. Nothing told me it would be a problem for my family

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_05]: so we went and um, we slept through that whole night in that tent with no problem

[00:57:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean like I said, I'm I'm accustomed to the tornadoes. Those can be quite scary, but

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Where were you jayfer? Where did you guys sleep at?

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_05]: So we ended up going to

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Ryan ended up

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Purchasing getting moved from tent city to campsite 39

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_05]: so it was

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Me, oh, it was my family

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_05]: He was in a hammock up on this on the hill dug was on the hammock up on the hill

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Our friends who had came was there with us and then e.j. Snyder actually camped with us

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_05]: So it was all of us clustered together for this duration and we we slept through the whole thing

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_03]: That's why yeah, I was wondering about that because I knew you were there was no camping where we camp

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I could tell that pretty early on

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_05]: We left when we did just to beat the rain we got in

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Thursday morning

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_05]: We left Wednesday night and we got there probably about four five ish in the morning five ish in the morning on Thursday

[00:58:37] [SPEAKER_05]: And we slept in our car till daybreak so we could try to figure out where we were setting up our tents

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And then ryan had said hey just come up camp over here

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And so we all set up together and then that next day after the rain it was just pouring

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_05]: um

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I I had the idea of you know what?

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_05]: No one likes to be hungry and wet makes for a terrible mood terrible spirit

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_05]: So I packed up the coalman the cooler we went up to the pavilion

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And I just started cooking breakfast for everybody

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean and just we all hung out there everybody who showed up everybody who hung out and apparently there have been people

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Up at that, you know like there is every year

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_05]: We have people who stay there for a week up to a week before camp and just enjoy the time there so

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_05]: It it was one of those things where there were people there already ready for this event. I mean

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And jericho was unfazed. I mean you can ask jasmine and anyone else who attended

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_05]: He was just chill sitting there enjoying himself and eating

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he won't that'll be one of those stories

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_03]: He'll either never believe or he'll probably like bring it up and make funny for it later

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I know my kids would yeah, dad. I'm gonna time you took me into the freaking

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_03]: hurricane

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_03]: To go hang out with your friends might my kid my kid would skewer me if I did that I'm sure

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_05]: One of those things like I said we had prayed about it and that night when we laid down

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I had said our prayers, you know, and I felt peace come over me

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_05]: It was like okay, we are gonna be okay and we made it through with no problem. Yeah, it was definitely harry

[01:00:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, the water was the most harry

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I you know what? I think the most harry part was seeing

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_05]: The amount of water that raised but not at any point was I actually worried if that makes sense

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I couldn't imagine that camp area

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I I never could have imagined like the lake being a threat as long as you guys were

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_03]: up by the camp

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Check in area

[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_05]: The catch and release like did get up quite high

[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Look like it could potentially roll over but the drainage on that lake

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Are both those lakes are quite interesting or quite amazing because as soon as the rain eased up the water receded so quickly

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they got a they got a thing in the back of it. There's they've got like a drain in the back

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty sure I remember staring at that back of that lake my first year when I was in a canoe fishing for bass and going like

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_03]: What the hell is that?

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_05]: No, a canoe ended up on the grass where the vendor booth area was um, it actually

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Where forest?

[01:01:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Forest um garbans booth would have been so we always laughed that we had new riverfront property with the with a boat on it

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_03]: There you go. I saw the dam went for a swim disappeared off into the went to the lake

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_05]: But I can tell you this I spoke a local came up to attend prepper camp

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_05]: And then I actually ran into some locals on the way out who are going to come on my my show and want to speak about it

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_05]: But I had a local come up and say thank you

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_05]: for

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_05]: What pork chop and the guys and gals did because I know even sarah went back out with

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_05]: You know barl to change the all on sarah and her family crew went and cleared out more and morgan helped and

[01:01:55] [SPEAKER_05]: um, but they came up and said thank you because they had we're talking to emergency services in the town and said

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_05]: The mountain was not going to be touched the until the earliest possible date

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Might have been today, but most likely tomorrow

[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And he they said that people on this mountain get stranded every time no power

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_05]: No way down

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_05]: And and it was just a huge thank you. Well when I went we went down the mountain as we were heading out

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_05]: um, this couple and natin betsey

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Were or two individuals were speaking and he said he said I was wondering who cleared the roads

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Because we were talking I was asking

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, how was it going? He goes well someone had already cleared our roads

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_05]: He goes i'm on top of the mountain just so many houses up further north than the lake

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean orchard lake and he goes

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_05]: You know we had trees down he goes

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I figured I was going to be spending the next several days

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Cutting my way out. He goes whoever did that and I was like, oh

[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_05]: What was a bunch of guys for margaret because well, thank you

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_05]: He goes because I that had made it easier for us to get to the other people and the elderly people

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_05]: On the mountain to get them down and then he could start helping emergency services

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Now he said power doesn't usually get restored right away

[01:03:09] [SPEAKER_05]: But it was nice to know that there were people out there who didn't know them

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Who were willing to put that effort out to help complete strangers

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, hey, that's huge and the lake the lake as we were uh, the orchard lake people were thankful

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Because the stuff that was sold there. I mean it was one of those things where it was great to see people not

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Who were we're happy to have people like us there and people who were helping each other because there was issues

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_05]: We had an issue if our tank was way lower than we meant to but again

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_05]: That was because of how late we traveled nothing was open

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_05]: and the kindness of

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_05]: A new friend and pork chop we had more than enough gas to get past columbia

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_05]: To be able to fill up because on the way out we saw

[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_05]: There was plenty of power in certain areas, but the gas station lines

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_05]: And then we stopped at one point to adjust something and we had a young woman walk up to us

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_05]: and ask us um

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you know where a gas station is?

[01:04:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I only have nine miles left and unfortunately we didn't have enough room to put it around the car

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_05]: We would have just taken her down to the gas station or if we had a gas can

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_05]: But it was one of those things we were able to help her find people who knew the area

[01:04:20] [SPEAKER_05]: To find the next gas station was three miles away

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_05]: So I mean it was interesting to see

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_05]: um

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_05]: See the progression of it as we got away from the area and now murray beach got winds

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_05]: We've got several trees down but nothing like the mountains nothing like the the center part of south carolina

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Or georgia or any of the other places that get hit

[01:04:45] Yeah

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's uh

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Now you know like dav always said

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Dave's always said

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_03]: If he was going to live out an apocalyptic situation, he'd want to do it with us

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know the the bigger us is of course the prepper camp group and

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It is it was worrisome to have you guys out there

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_03]: But it was good knowing that people like pork chop were going to be there and other people that we've known for years now because

[01:05:13] [SPEAKER_03]: You just know they're going to work

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_03]: With everyone

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_03]: For everyone's best interest, you know, it's it's it's sort of an unwritten rule at prepper camp. You know what I mean?

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_03]: It's an unwritten rule

[01:05:25] [SPEAKER_05]: it's more of like

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Almost an obscure family or in friendship and community but

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_05]: That's why as soon as you know little birdie was able to

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_05]: You know wink wink help us getting onto the whole starlink, you know sky net going on every chance

[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I got I was given updates every chance I got I was

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Trying to make sure people were aware people were following and then a few people who were concerned

[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I did lend out my phone so people could call and just let their

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Their spouses know or their parents or whomever know that they were safe and they would be okay on the way home

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And I guess now it's just time to uh

[01:06:05] [SPEAKER_03]: To focus in on the recovery, you know

[01:06:08] [SPEAKER_03]: See what we can help to get done

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And uh, maybe we figure out a way to keep this thing in front and center for

[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Till 2025

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean literally, you know the the biggest struggle these people are going to have I think is going to be remaining relevant this day and age

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Literally live with their lives and their livelihoods and their futures on the line

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I think the biggest struggle for these people is going to be

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Sadly remaining relevant in the news cycle with the election coming and everything else that's on the horizon

[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's going to be real easy to forget all about asheville north carolina and and

[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_03]: What's happened there?

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's probably what what just got me most nervous right now, you know now that everybody's home safe except jb

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I hope uh

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I guess it's smooth sailing

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Get get jasmine back to the charlotte airport and fly her back across the country

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Telling you write that story down jasmine that's going to be one for the record books for you

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's hope you don't have another trip like this, right?

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[01:07:15] [SPEAKER_03]: All right folks well

[01:07:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know about you, but I think we've done a pretty good job covering things again. There's a link in the show description

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_03]: and uh

[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_03]: You have a multitude of ways you can help out

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so you know do what you can every little bit helps there's going to be a lot of people helping

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_03]: So you know even if you drop a five dollar bill in it's going to go into the greater good and

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you just have no idea what a difference something like that can make to somebody who's got a corner of their house

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_03]: left and that's all

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Phil you've unmuted are you are you going to give us some words of encouragement on the way out?

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean i'm not just just to kind of address what you were saying about

[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You know the the national media cycle and how phenomenally short the attention span of that

[01:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: God awful thing is yeah, but I mean the one the one thing I will say that

[01:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: At a moment like this like there's really two things that you can fall back on one is community the broader

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You know the entire area of the Appalachians and the entire country

[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Could really make an enormous difference in people's lives by throwing

[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You know the cost of going out to eat with your family one night would help out a family in need

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: But this is also a really good cautionary note for everybody to start considering your local area

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I get that's that's a big conversation gillie and I've had for the last year

[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Is trying to build

[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Mutual assistance groups in the local area to try to decentralize

[01:08:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Things like disaster preparedness and disaster response because you're right

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You know like it may you may not be able to get FEMA to come in

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And fully commit to the recovery effort that you need

[01:08:52] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you have a group of friends spread out over an area

[01:08:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Some of them may not have all been affected by the storm and may be able to render

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Very quick very targeted aid in a way that would be lifesaving

[01:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So I would just say that like

[01:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: At a moment like this if you're if you're the person who is up to your eyeballs in trouble

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Like people are trying to get help to you as fast as humanly possible

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you're the person who's not eyeballed even trouble

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Please check on your friends your family your neighbors your friends of friends and everybody else because

[01:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I promise you if you know people in that area. Somebody needs help

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Which got to get it to them one way or the other no doubt about it

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Well pbn family, uh, I am sat here with

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_03]: truly some of the most beautiful people on the planet and

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Whenever I get the whole group together particularly in a situation like this where you get to see, you know, we're not just

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Bitching about the way things are in the country tonight

[01:09:50] [SPEAKER_03]: We're pooling from this level of expertise and this level of experience that is

[01:09:56] [SPEAKER_03]: unique here at pbn and it's

[01:09:59] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it really is my humble honor to be

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_03]: With you guys you hosts here at prepper broadcasting network. It's it's a wild thing and when moments like this occur

[01:10:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm always reminded like look at these people who uh

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Who you're surrounded by you know, and it's

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It is an honor and I appreciate y'all and jb. Hope you get home safe

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Do your part pbn family we have

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_03]: We have some work to do as a nation to help these people out. All right

[01:10:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I will talk to you soon. Thanks everybody for joining me tonight and uh, thank you chat

[01:10:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, get on board folks. We'll see you

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