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[00:00:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You're listening to PBN. You're paying back the stability here.
[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_02]: What is up PBN family? What is up Dave Jones, the NBC guy and Ben?
[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_02]: The Bankster Breaker all with us tonight on the Fasted Cast edition of Preppers LIVE. What's up gentlemen?
[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, hey Trepper come in here what's going on? I think we should start with a sort of a round robin
[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_02]: to discuss times and do we want to do weights? Does weights even matter to people?
[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they even care about that, but at least times like what we did where we're at that kind of thing.
[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm I'm I'll start because I'm last place. I'm the bronze medal so I'll start
[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Because I am
[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_02]: 49 hours and
[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And
[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's where I'm at 49 hours. There's a there's a plate at dinner plate across from me that I'm drooling over right now
[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_02]: I will tell I will tell you this Ben
[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_02]: It on my desk here
[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I do have a small tablespoon with some pink Himalayan sea salt in it and
[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Throughout my workday today. I was dipping my tongue in that Himalayan sea salt
[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_02]: So I appreciate
[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's helpful for a lot of reasons
[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Dave Jones, what about you man? Oh
[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Man that Himalayan pink that pink Himalayan salt. I was living on that
[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I really thought you knew that in the back channel because
[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is that thing
[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Once you take that little bit. I don't know if
[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Increases your blood pressure or what it does to your system, but it like gives you a jolt
[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_02]: I just just replacing minerals probably
[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you take a sip of water and you go for it listen I was doing 72 hours
[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So it was Friday night. I was done and I sent pictures in the back channel. Oh
[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Beautiful
[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_02]: They beautiful smoked salmon
[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_02]: You have a tomato cucumber bean
[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And I know
[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Avocado salad. Yeah, I look so damn good Dave Jones
[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_02]: And then it was and then he wasn't done. He hits us with the green lip muscles steamed green lip muscles
[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Were you guys at home here or was this you eat now?
[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Traveling we're traveling man. This is our vacation. We're out of town
[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm at actually at McGuire Air Force Base in New Jersey
[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And I got to tell you the activity that was at the PX and the commissary was very little
[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_01]: now it is Monday, but I
[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't see any planes coming in. I didn't see anything landing
[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if the the amount of troops that they're able to recruit
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_01]: We were here a number of years ago
[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_01]: when we were trying to get a hop over to Romania and
[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that was the trip to Romania where I did the the podcast with
[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_02]: Ron from Atlas bunkers. Oh, yeah, you ran into him. That was so funny
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_02]: That was funny. He must have been in storm bunkers in Ukraine. They knew it was coming
[00:04:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we can I told him I said I am going to Romania
[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: He says I'll be in Romania in a few days and I'm like holy crap
[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: so so
[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was a trip we never did get the hop
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_01]: We never did we're able to hook up and I mean when you're retired military
[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You are rejected more than when I was single at 48
[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It was you are last on the list I mean
[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Dependent women and children are before you
[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So we went to every base on the East Coast from Norfolk to
[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Maguire, I mean we hit Dover
[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_01]: We even hit a hair guard base could not get a flight to Europe and we were hoping for anywhere in Europe
[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Because then we would fly to Romania and it would be like a hopper flight. So
[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: When we stayed here we were quite impressed and on the way out to try and catch another hop
[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: We stopped at the beach and Maria says hey, why don't we go back to that place? We stayed at and
[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I gotta tell you it's really nice. We got a two-bedroom suite full kitchen
[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: 110 bucks
[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Beat that two-bedroom
[00:05:31] Oh
[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_02]: It's like $200,000 if you were to buy something like that two bedrooms in a kitchen
[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and it has a washer and dryer in it which we didn't know Wow. Oh, that's key for vacation for sure
[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's that's huge and it's fully
[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_01]: full kitchen full size fridge
[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Dishwasher
[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Stove a microwave. It's got it all eat pots pans dishes everything
[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like like a condo
[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Good living
[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_02]: You deserve it you deserve it
[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, thanks. Thanks
[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But this is our only vacation for this summer and I don't think we took a vacation for two years
[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So we're gonna make yeah, I know
[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna try and make the best of it
[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Because school starts for the kids in two weeks and it starts for me next week
[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Mr. Jones
[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think history
[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_04]: More year here we go
[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But why then all the time I got I got millions of things to talk to you about the fast
[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So let's hear what Ben's doing. He's gonna be the gold medal winner, right? I guess so
[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm gonna hope I want to try my hardest. I'm on hour 71 nearly 72
[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I started Friday kind of late. I ate
[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Ate dinner at about 7 p.m. But then I was like, well, I'm gonna have another half dozen eggs. Why not?
[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_05]: At about 930 so it's 907 right now. So almost 72 hours
[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm down from but I'm down about seven and a half pounds and
[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_05]: You know
[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I know a lot of that is water weight, but at least a couple pounds of fat
[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not losing it looking to lose too much fat. We'll talk about this later
[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I think this is super valuable for preppers to have a bit of fret fat on them functional fat not
[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_05]: 50% I know Dave Jones can certainly talk about I think he said the army once once you had 20% when you deploy
[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_05]: So you're in good shape, but like a little porky just to have a little extra to burn
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Short those go pretty well
[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Mostly mental it really is and I've quit cigarettes many times my life
[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_05]: But luckily I haven't smoked for several months and when I do it's only for like one night or something with someone or at my
[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_05]: My parents smoke so I spoke with you. I see them long story short
[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_05]: That's way harder than fasting because the intensity of the cravings for me at least the cigarettes are way worse than
[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Fasting however, you have to eat eventually so you can't just quit eating forever
[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_05]: So you're gonna you know being addicted to food though is a problem
[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I think fasting can actually in the right way for the right people
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Can break some of those addictions whether that's sugar whether that's just overeating or just the mental part like
[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_05]: You'll realize how quickly how much you rely on food to get through the day sometimes like oh now
[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I've done my 11 a.m. Meeting now. I can have a snack and some coffee
[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Now it's time for lunch. Oh now time for my mid-afternoon snack all time for dinner now
[00:08:52] [SPEAKER_05]: It's time for some popcorn now. It's time for you know, candy bar or whatever
[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't our story short a lot of people live like that
[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I've lived like that for a few years in my life
[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I've tried to clean up but you know
[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_05]: I think fasting whether you start with 18 hours or 24 I'm going for 100 so that's what I'm going for almost 72
[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_05]: It's equal the longest I've ever gone and I'm gonna try to go to 100
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_05]: That's about it though because I don't want to lose too much muscle once you get after like five days
[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_05]: You can lose a lot of muscle and stuff like that. So, you know, I think it's 100 hours
[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the number I'm going for so why don't we why don't we do why in the world for those?
[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_02]: For those who are now nine minutes in
[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Because there's a lot of people out there probably doing this right now nine minutes in going why?
[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_02]: In the hell would preppers who have all this good food
[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Dave Jones always talking about freezers full of meats and and gardens full of vegetables
[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_02]: James is a chef Ben's a living doing whatever the hell Ben wants to do
[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Why on earth would those three guys say let's just not eat for days
[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah
[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_02]: When we talk about some of the benefits
[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_01]: You want to give out some you want to give out the phone number so they can write it again
[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do that. Let's do that
[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_02]: So if anybody it took on the challenge of the 24 even the 24-hour fast or even if you did five hours 10 now
[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever, whatever
[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Feel free to call in we'll bring you right up on the show through Skype
[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a regular call in number eight. Oh four seven six seven seventy one seventy one eight
[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh four seven six seven seventy one seventy one
[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Tell us how your fast went or is going or even passed fast if you ever tried it
[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's important that the people you know, they're here in three hosts, okay, so they're like
[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah those guys
[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: But if they hear other listeners, do you know what? I mean? They sure they
[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't know that we're just guys
[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_01]: they don't know that they think I
[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_01]: don't know what they think but
[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_01]: When you get independent verification of what we're about to say it lends credibility to everything I
[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Started fasting it was years ago. I was still working
[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and and people would ask me what are you doing?
[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And I stopped telling them because no one believed me and it was like
[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, do you want to feel better you want to stop the aches and pains
[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to sleep like a log every night and wake up fully awake?
[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_01]: with a brain rush where you're thinking about 50 things at once and
[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Have energy to do them
[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Stop eating. I
[00:12:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oh my gosh and think of the time you saved by not cooking not eating and definitely not pooping
[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly at least an hour hour and a half a day of all those combined I do miss the pooping
[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You know last night now I had been without food for out I mean days
[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_01]: so I
[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Started having gas and I almost texted you guys in the back channel
[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_01]: How do you have gas when you don't have food? That's funny
[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_02]: What about you Ben what what kind of benefits do you get out of this outsider like just starving and nothing losing weight?
[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah losing weights part of it
[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I would say just self discipline working on some discipline and the prepping part of it is a huge aspect because
[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess first and foremost if
[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Power grant power down grid down. You're probably not gonna be eating a lot
[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, and even if you do have storable foods
[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_05]: You might want to ration them out or not break them all out right away
[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_05]: But point is you should be able to go a couple days without eating simply put if you're a prepper
[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I really think at least 48 hours probably I think 72 is probably a good and that includes working out now. I haven't been
[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Hiking 14 hours a day like you might be doing with stuff hits the fan
[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Imagine not eating for three days and hiking for 14 hours every day because you're bugging out
[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_05]: That's you know, so that is part of it. And also just the realization like oh I could actually do it
[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And the mental blocks like getting over those is nice knowing that it's just
[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Temporary in terms of really like the lust for food
[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not even hungry, but when I when I saw those pictures that Dave Jones said I was lusty after that food
[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_05]: That's what I would say
[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Finally maybe just like controlling your emotions or thinking about your motions like I there's
[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Different phases of it where sometimes I'm a little grouchy
[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_05]: But right now I'm in kind of a Zen spot and I know once you get over the first like 48 hours
[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_05]: You're usually a little more Zen
[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_05]: But early on especially like the first I got our 12 to 24 is some of the hardest you kind of grouchy
[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Your body's like hey
[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_05]: But getting over that you can get over that is a big big part of it and
[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_05]: All around I think is
[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_05]: It's something that I've learned about
[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Just in the last six months probably and all the research I've shown is health is good for your health
[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Anti-cancer anti-aging and I don't know
[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I just think it's really good to be able to convert to using only your own fat for fuel as a prepper
[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's super important
[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, and you you touched on a couple things when you said that, you know
[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Shtf you might be hiking for 14 hours and not eating that was future Dan's experience in Ranger school
[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well different level and sleep deprivation so if I combine sleep deprivation and more exercise in this
[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_05]: It would be a lot harder. I'll tell you that oh
[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah, but
[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Then then the other thing you said was oh shoot now. I forgot what it was. I got to start taking notes
[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you get?
[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you guys that a few things go ahead? What did you get the brain rush?
[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You know the brain rush
[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I would say
[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_05]: The second morning. Yes is the best the second morning until about dinner time
[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Let's just say 9 a.m. To 4 p.m. The second day
[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I guess our hour 40 to 46 like great. That's like peak feeling almost although
[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm feeling almost peak right now at our 72
[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe it's just cuz I'm on the air with you guys and you guys are the best but feeling great now
[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_05]: But I've had some ups and downs. I know this morning the third morning
[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I was dragging ass a little but I had to get up for work and it was Monday morning
[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_05]: So who knows it's just that too
[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, now I was taking a little this morning, but boy did I knock it out yesterday
[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I worked I cleaned the car. We're we're prepping everything to go
[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're getting the animals ready. We're putting the food the water and
[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_01]: man, I'm just I'm flying and I can't I I
[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I knew this was gonna happen, but I couldn't remember when it kicked in right
[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_01]: It's been about a year since we really
[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Fasted good because that guy well I was in school
[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_01]: so
[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we've experienced this Maria has done
[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Way longer than I have I think I may have done a seven day fast and
[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_01]: She's done like a 12 or 15 day
[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, she just wanted to show that she could kick my ass and
[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_01]: True double you
[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, double me. So it is true that you get in this Zen state
[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and
[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why
[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Starvation diets in prison work
[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You get in this Zen state that's for those people on survivor they go and rescue them
[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Because they don't know they're gonna die
[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's why they take the vitals and everything
[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and that's why in concentration camps, you know, you you say to yourself. Why didn't these people fight back?
[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they they didn't and they they were never going to I mean
[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_01]: They were just trudging along one day after the next but another thing you said Ben and
[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_01]: This reminds me of Stockton
[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He was a
[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Vietnam veteran that was captured and he endured the longest
[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_01]: capture I think of anybody and he said and
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody else that came in and died and stuff like that
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_01]: he said I can endure any amount of pain possible as long as I knew there was an end and
[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_01]: He knew he was going to be rescued and he knew that this was going to end and he just kept going
[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_01]: so
[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a what like you said in the back channel
[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_01]: 80% mental it is 80% mental
[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_02]: It is a great it is definitely maybe even more
[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe even more is right. It is a great test of where you're at with willpower. There's no doubt about that. I
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_02]: noticed that
[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Ben you were talking about all those little points in your day when you eat and
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I noticed that oh, yeah the toughest part for me was around that
[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_02]: round dinner time before dinner time
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_02]: During the making of dinner I didn't realize how much slips into your mouth while you're preparing food until I was like
[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, no, no
[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh garden girl garden girl in chat went 24 hours last week two times
[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_02]: two separate 24 hour fast last week and
[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Said she really like red delight in the element chat over there. Thank you garden girl. We appreciate that
[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_02]: You know one of the things that I like most about it. I got like two
[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Are we still on reasons? We're still on reasons, right?
[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_02]: reasons why we
[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you what for me fundamentally the it's probably almost entirely about
[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_02]: The struggle
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_02]: There's definitely sort of like the
[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_02]: anti-cancer, you know those kind of benefits that go along with it, but
[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_02]: For me it really is just that it's just that like the struggle like will you will you pass or fail?
[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what? I mean, like will you do this or not?
[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why that just seems to be the most motivating thing in the whole thing for me
[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just are you gonna do this or are you gonna slip up and eat, you know, or are you gonna quit and eat?
[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_01]: If you like kettlebells and
[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Flipping tractor tires and stuff like that. Yeah. Oh, yeah same idea. Will you quit?
[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, although I didn't work out hardly at all because I hurt my shoulder magically
[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea how the shoulder hurt but it came at the perfect time. I
[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Woke up the day before the fast and I couldn't even move my right shoulder
[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_02]: It I did nothing it was it was the least amount of working out. I did the week before that injury
[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea what happened and
[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_02]: That must have been it but I mean that's hilarious, you know what I mean
[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I punch punching bags, you know what I mean with no boxing gloves on like if you're gonna tear a rotator cuff or hurt a
[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Shoulder you would think something like that and I only do that on Friday
[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_02]: So and I didn't do it this Friday. So to wake up Saturday like oh
[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_02]: was really weird but
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah all that I knew it was gonna go away thanks to Dave Jones Dave Jones has always told me
[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you're gonna heal faster and your inflammation is gonna go away
[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, oh this thing this thing stands no chance now cuz I'm gonna be fasting for 48 hours
[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_02]: So I know it's gonna be fine and it's about it's about there. It's like 78 80%
[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Back to mobility, but it was it was weird timing
[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Isn't that one of the most counter intuitive
[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Things because I have constant back problems and I mean I get up and I'm stiff
[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it takes me a while
[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then and then when you fast you get up and you're like man
[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't been able to do this, you know
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's like
[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Why?
[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_02]: But you know, you know what? It always makes sense to me is that you're shutting down
[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_02]: The operations in half your body if not more and I think that really is the core of why it's so good
[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And why you do such miraculous things
[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_02]: because if you had any other kind of machine where you could divert power and
[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_02]: All of a sudden you were like just you shut half off and divert the other half to you know
[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever process we're doing them processes are gonna run good man, you know
[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah
[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_01]: the brain power and
[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_01]: the lack of
[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Infection in your body and the healing process
[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it kills off all the dead and damaged cells and your body feeds off of those
[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because because you're not getting any food
[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's it's no wonder it's mentioned so much in the Bible. Holy crap
[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you want to have just if you just meditated and
[00:23:36] Fasted
[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean? Oh, it makes you appreciate things so much too. Like I feel like
[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Growing up as an American born in the mid 80s. It's just spoiled as heck with my food
[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Right and I maybe got a little overweight not too bad
[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_05]: But long story short didn't appreciate food at all and now you know
[00:23:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Not having that you appreciate it more than when you go back to eat
[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_05]: If the right way you eat healthier and you're more appreciative and that's godliness right there just being more appreciative
[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_02]: overall I
[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Feel in my head in the first
[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if my metabolism is super fast or something
[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_02]: But the first 24 hours for me always go without a hitch and the later I go usually though the
[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Harder it gets for me. I don't have this but what I do feel I feel a lot of stuff in the first 24
[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Hours, I feel the hyper
[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel the hyper like
[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Instinct in the first 24 hours like it was about seven
[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_02]: The seven o'clock or six about six or seven o'clock
[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Which would have been me hitting about at the 24 hour mark on Sunday
[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was out in my neighborhood walking with my kid and looking around and everything was like hyper
[00:24:49] [SPEAKER_02]: You know how I don't know if you guys get that where it gets like oh shit
[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_02]: They're like super green the sky super everything is fine
[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And the other thing that happens always and this is always within the first
[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_02]: 24 hours is I get like this weird like third eye feeling
[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_02]: but it's a weird like
[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_02]: space in my head that
[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Feels like the place that I go to when I meditate it feels like it opens up
[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's like a if you like tilt your head back and
[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Let your eyesight drift to between your eyebrows and you stay there and meditate in that position
[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_02]: You'll start to feel like a weird space in there
[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_02]: And when I fast that space opens up all by itself. It's weird and I'll be like, oh man
[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_02]: It's time for some prayer is the time for some meditation. It's time for something
[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Even though I didn't really I didn't really take advantage of that. I tried to stay busy
[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Keep my mind off it. Well now, you know this fast was to
[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Do do your normal routine whatever you do do your normal stuff so that you can know that you can do your
[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_01]: normal stuff
[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_01]: without eating
[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you did a fast where all you did was pray and meditate and fast
[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, holy cow. I think the universe would open up to you because when crazy stuff
[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I know I would I would have what's it called? No, I'm serious. I'm like really I can yeah, I can easily hallucinate
[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I know if I were like 48 hours in
[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Meditating I'd be seeing all kinds of crazy shit. I should have done it before eight damn it now
[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_02]: It's even I knew I was gonna regret eating
[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, if the Democrats get enough power and throw us all in jail we can do that while we'll have
[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_05]: jail
[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Do is just price gouge fix the prices on
[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Rose sorry for bringing that into the conversation, but a couple of things I think the inflammation's
[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Huge or lack thereof. I think
[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_05]: A big part of it is your lack of water weight you lose a lot of water when you fast
[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Especially already carrying a bunch. So that just I think that itself helps the inflammation
[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_05]: There's other reasons inflammation or less and I think and a big part was just your body's using
[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_05]: They're having to do less. Like you said, I wake up an hour earlier
[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Went like the second third day at fast
[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess we'll find out tomorrow the first time I've gone fourth day the second third day
[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Wake up an hour earlier than normal and I feel great and motivated
[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Because I know my body isn't digesting on the other hand
[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_05]: There's been times where I've been a night eater a little bit like I wake up at 1 in the morning and eat a
[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Little snack or eat right before I sleep or on the weekends or whatever and I'll wake up groggy as heck the next
[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_05]: day feeling like crap so
[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_05]: You know that stress you put or do not put on your body when you're sleeping
[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Makes a difference to both for the inflammation as well as just like I don't know your weight and grogginess and
[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Obviously you got to eat but just know using food is like a tool rather than as a reward
[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a big part of it. I think
[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_01]: so
[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_01]: One thing that you'll notice because I noticed this on my long fast you actually need less sleep
[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_01]: That the amount of sleep that you get is higher quality sleep and
[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You get you I mean
[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I was at this point where I lay down and sleep and I probably sleep three or four hours
[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I'd get up do some stuff and then later on I get tired. I'd lay down
[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Sleep, I mean I think we were
[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_01]: primarily
[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Built that way that when it was time to sleep you just slept you found a place you hid you slept and
[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_01]: then when it was time to go out and forage for food you went and got food and
[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And you'll find your sleep pattern is
[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Completely different when you're fasting and I I slept so sound
[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_01]: So deep and so restful, I mean that's that's one of the huge benefits
[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I got I got sleep apnea and I got a you know, I'm I'm 67 soon
[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_01]: 68 I get up three or four times a night. Nope. Nope. Nope not now not when I'm fasting
[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Awesome yeah
[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_02]: You know the other cool thing about it is you can't get it anyway, but the way we get it
[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_02]: It's one of the rare things nowadays that you can't buy
[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what? I mean fasting you can't it can't be duplicated in a video game. The feeling can't be purchased from Amazon
[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_02]: The struggle all of that. It's one of those uniquely human things that you can only do if you do it
[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_02]: You can only feel it if you do it and go through it and and man those things are getting
[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Rare all the time
[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what? I mean those human things that are basically irreplaceable
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Very true. They even got like ozempic like the different weight loss drugs now
[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_05]: So you can lose weight without even having to go through the struggle in the modern society, of course
[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Not very good for you
[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_05]: But you're right just the mental part of it and think about our ancestors all the time
[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean they went 24 36 48 hours without eating
[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean hopefully they learned to plan better and that was the foundation of civilization, right?
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_05]: How can we eat throughout the year without you know, how can we trade and preserve?
[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_05]: but uh, yeah, you're made to not eat for a little bit of time just like
[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_05]: From from the base animal, right?
[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you Ben on on this, you know that the challenge and the achievement and the
[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Knowing because think about the millions maybe billions of people out there
[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That don't know what we know right now
[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_01]: that they'll go into an shtf situation and just
[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_01]: positively shut down
[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Because yeah. Yeah, but we say okay. Well, I've been there. I've done that and
[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You know it builds a confidence in you to where you can say
[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can do this level of activity
[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_01]: for this period of time
[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Before I eat
[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_02]: It is weird because there was I used to like I was saying before we started the podcast I used to live
[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_02]: By this weird idea that in high school and when I was working
[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_02]: For various, you know jobs that I would be in at an early time
[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I would always believe this lie that like if you don't eat breakfast your day is done
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Like you're just gonna be tired the whole day
[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_02]: And I remember falling asleep in school when I didn't eat breakfast and just believing that weird
[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Thing and when you talk to people about fasting, they'll tell you that same thing
[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just it is but it feels so real
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_02]: It feels like what do you mean? You can't go two days three days four days twelve days without eating
[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_02]: It seems impossible and then you're you know
[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_02]: 24 hours in and you're like, I don't feel bad at all. Then you're you know
[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_02]: 36 hours in and you're like this the same bad. I
[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Had a I had a pretty rough like one death
[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Really was almost just like a 12 30 to 2 o'clock today
[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Where I just got dead tired. I don't know what happened. I crashed. Oh
[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was it was a crash and I was like but but normally I get tired at that time of day
[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Well now see
[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Just knowing that right there
[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, I I didn't have a problem not eating Maria's eaten in front of me and
[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I
[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Was like okay. I knew I'm going to 72 hours now when I got to 72 hours
[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I said lay it on me. I
[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_02]: Went out to eat with my family last night I
[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Let them I let them leave all that
[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_02]: I
[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_02]: let them leave and and my wife she was traveling at a hockey tournament all weekend and
[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Once they left I was like and I just I want to hang out
[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_02]: we'd have been hung out as a family and she you know, she came home and it was like
[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go get Mexican food and I was like, oh man. Oh man. I don't know and then I just I just drove my truck up there
[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_02]: it wasn't far from the house and then popped in and
[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_02]: you know, they're eating chips and guacamole and
[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Fajitas the hot fit they bring the hot fajitas over in the cast iron pan all three of them had up
[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was just like well if I can get through this
[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if anything else is gonna really faze me, you know, right? That's getting me right now
[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_05]: It's actually being there in person would be so much harder
[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_05]: It was rough. Yeah
[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_01]: You do like that torture
[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, am I gonna quit or not, you know, that's what it comes down to
[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I think Ben probably has it the toughest because nobody would tell
[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_02]: That's why that stands out so good, you know, you don't have Maria there with you
[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have my kids running around that will make fun of me for the rest of time if I break the fast
[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah. No, it's a character. It's what you're doing with no one's looking
[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_02]: A 72 hour fast by yourself man, that's something because anytime
[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_05]: In front of me or like that would be a lot tougher. I don't know
[00:35:16] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I can still get through it, but that would be
[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Tougher than seeing I don't know
[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I was looking at a jar of peanut butter for like 30 seconds before I realized I was doing it so
[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_05]: You does that's way harder
[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_02]: That's sweet
[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_02]: That that peanut butter was in so much trouble and it didn't even know it
[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna get it this weekend
[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Your time will come buddy
[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_02]: So, what do you guys think is optimal in terms of like
[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_02]: How often like you've been doing it?
[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_02]: This is your second one in a short period of time, right Ben
[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Let's see. I would say I don't have the exact date, but I would say in the last three months. I've probably done
[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_05]: five or six however
[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Half of those were only like 36 hours
[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_05]: So I did a few 36 hours in like May and June and then I I think
[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_05]: 172 hour fast
[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_05]: per month if
[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_05]: You want to lose a little weight is a good way to do it if you're already relatively thin or you're trying to
[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Build muscle maybe a little less or maybe do 48 hour fast
[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_05]: So what's optimal? I think there's different people say different things some say
[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Do the full five day fast seven day fast a couple times a year and you'll get most of the benefits
[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_05]: But some people say just do you know?
[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_05]: 36 hour fast once a week like pretty much take a day off at eating once a week and maybe that's optimal
[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm gonna be experimenting I think
[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like that. I
[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's a hard fast rule, but I gotta let the listeners know that
[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I
[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_01]: live a lifestyle of calorie reduction, so
[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I I do what's commonly referred to as the warrior diet where you have a period of timeline
[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Six to eight and you eat all your calories that you're gonna have until the next next night
[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So this 72 hour
[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_01]: fast for me
[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_01]: seemed like pretty easy
[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Pretty easy now went back
[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_01]: When we first started we were doing like every quarter
[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a five day along a long fast every quarter and the good thing is
[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It resets your metabolism
[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And you reap the benefits long after you start back eating
[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Because when you start back you're eating very small portions and your body's still in
[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Ketosis and you're still, you know auto phasing all your
[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Bad cells and stuff like that
[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So you you keep reaping the benefits? Yeah, you can feel it man
[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely one of those things you can feel the challenge and you can feel the difference
[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that the top of the
[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Hill though for me was like I was saying last night, which was not that deep into the past really
[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean it wasn't it wasn't really that deep about 24 hours, but to garden girls point
[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_02]: You know knocking. I don't know how you guys feel. I mean, I know you said the 24 was tough
[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like a 24 hour
[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Is something you could do like once a month with ease wouldn't even feel it wouldn't even notice it
[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_02]: But I think the benefits of I guess what would it would have depend on is how long do you think it takes until?
[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Everything's emptied out and your digestive digestive system is completely done
[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Everything's digested everything's out of your small intestine and all that kind of stuff
[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_02]: See now with Dave Jones telling me at 70 hours. He still had gas that makes me nervous
[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's funny I didn't have it before and I started developing it and I'm like
[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_01]: How does this work? I I don't have anything in my stomach, but I'm I'm getting gas
[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that was just stuff that was left over in my intestinal walls
[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I guess if you breathe in though, right if you breathe like air into your stomach, then it's gonna get stuck
[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_02]: And have to come out
[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Even if it's not like the digestive process
[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_05]: and I I
[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Surprise surprise, I'm no doctor but
[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I pretend to be on patron power hour. No, actually I don't but uh, I do know that
[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Your gut bacteria
[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Undergo a lot of changes when you fast
[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_05]: So maybe it was digesting some stuff or maybe all the bad
[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Bacteria were dying off or off gas and detoxing. I presume it's a good thing
[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know for sure. Of course each person is different, but I know your gut bacteria
[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_05]: kind of you know
[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Improves and then after you're fast, you really need to especially if you go like five plus days
[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_05]: You got to get the right prior prebiotics probiotics and all that. So maybe it was that
[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Past how many days you got to do that five?
[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Like if you go past five
[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Um, or if you do a lot of antibiotics either way, you gotta kind of like reset that gut biome
[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_05]: To spin there's different ways to do it
[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I think kimchi and sauerkraut are two of my favorite and kefir in the fridge right now
[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_05]: So and it's fermented foods like you can take different supplements and stuff
[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_05]: But I really think fermented foods
[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Eat some of that in the first day or two after you're fast and that'll like just make sure your gut biomes in good shape
[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_05]: You know
[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, maria maria
[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Is giving you a thumbs up on that ben. All right. Nice. That's the best little proof I could get tonight. Thank you
[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_05]: So cool
[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_02]: What else?
[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_02]: What else you got fasting side
[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, okay. I just have a story. Okay, so i'm at i'm at the px tonight
[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And there were some young soldiers in there and i'm trying to figure out what's going on. Why isn't there any
[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Activity here. Oh, did you find out? Yeah
[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_01]: No, but
[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I told the kid
[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I said
[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was here in 1975
[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_01]: for basic training
[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_01]: 1975 that was 50 years ago. I said wow, I guess it was 50 years
[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And the funny thing about it was we were talking before the show started I didn't even know
[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_01]: breakfast existed until I
[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Came to the army and and they fed me breakfast now I gained
[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_01]: 45 pounds in base training
[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And I lost three inches off my waist now. I don't know how that happens
[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_01]: but uh
[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I went from like 130 to 170
[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Something
[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_01]: In basic
[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow
[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right. Yeah put you through a lot, right?
[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh, yes
[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so we got uh
[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_02]: You blew the but did they tell you what the deal was?
[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Did they get ever get you the the information on like what the hell's going on? Where's all the soldiers?
[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, and well I asked them what they were doing and they're going through a transition school
[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of these combined bases now
[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_01]: They'll send all the services to one school
[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what's going on here with them
[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Now I was kind of interested
[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That when I was filling up the car
[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_01]: A guy gets out. He's he's airborne
[00:43:16] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got the airborne beret on and I look at his license plate and his patch and he's from the 82nd
[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy, and i'm the real deal
[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what is the 82nd airborne doing a maguire unless they're going somewhere?
[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_01]: But then I got to thinking about it
[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_01]: He's driving his car, but it still has um
[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_01]: the um
[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it north carolina or south carolina license plate on it? So I don't so what does that mean to us who aren't?
[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Well previously military do you get a I don't even know if do you get a special license plate when you're on base
[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, but he might be here
[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_01]: temporarily training
[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Or doing something but it would it shocked me that they
[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_01]: First of all, they don't have any
[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_01]: actual
[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Combat army troops here
[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, this is
[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_01]: They they don't have like a division or something like that here
[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So when I saw the airborne guy get out of his car, i'm like, oh that's strange
[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's when I looked at his patch and then I looked at his license plate
[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So he he must be here doing something. I wish I would have just stopped and went over to him say hey
[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_01]: i'm retired army
[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_01]: You know
[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And tried to suck some information out of it because when I was in romania
[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That happened. I'm i'm standing in line at the airport
[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And these guys were talking and you could obviously tell
[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_01]: They were
[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Military, I mean the haircuts and this stuff they had
[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_01]: so I just kind of
[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Saundered over to him. We get to talk and then they were
[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_01]: a navy
[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_01]: navy guys
[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Working with the army and that's when I found out
[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_01]: we had military stationed there in three different bases in
[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Romania
[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and uh also navy in uh
[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_01]: On the black sea there
[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_01]: and uh
[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Constanza
[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So these guys like spilled their guts
[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_02]: I got a I got a question from the chat room
[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh nice, go ahead wants to know if you guys uh
[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Allow yourselves coffee
[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I drank the hell out of coffee the whole time
[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think coffee has calories
[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean water really unless you do that
[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_01]: But latte
[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_02]: You know that's the way I drink my black is night, right?
[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Me too. So I I definitely had coffee some could say that's maybe not fully fasted
[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_05]: But um, I definitely you know, my other cheat was carbonated water. No sweetener
[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_02]: No, a little perrier
[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Calories, but essentially yeah the cheap version of maldi
[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_05]: So the but uh fast
[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_02]: The faster survivor pack would be pink salt
[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_02]: coffee, oh, yeah and
[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_02]: carbonated water
[00:46:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Good to know there you go pbn family that that is something that I don't think i've ever seen anywhere else
[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_02]: That is the prepper gold right there. Yeah, that is fasting survivors pack right there
[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Because the salt helps definitely that salt was a difference maker today
[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's I think as a prepper for prepping purposes, you gotta have a nice store of that
[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh man, because you're gonna need it, especially if you consider months or even years
[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Of grid down if you're gonna get through that you like you're not gonna be able to load back up on that salt
[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_05]: and don't forget about potassium and magnesium and stuff too, so uh, it's I have a whole bunch of
[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Really? It's made for people that are fasting
[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_05]: For athletes, uh zero calories zero sweetener and it has
[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_05]: potassium sodium chloride all that I have a little of that
[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_05]: But I have a couple big jars of that stored away as a prep too because i'm like this stuff could be very valuable
[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Uh stuff hits the fan
[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I keep a lot of regular salt too. I buy that uh, yeah
[00:47:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I buy the freaking
[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Salt bricks from sam's club every time i'm there almost they're only like two bucks
[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_02]: I think they're like two bucks and two pounds or something like that
[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And it's just hard to even walk by I can't walk by i'm like a civil war soldier. I'm like look at this currency coming
[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It was civil war I think when they got paid in salt or something like that wasn't it or is that revolution?
[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean through history
[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_01]: salt has uh
[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That's where the word salary comes from
[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Sally so
[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and uh
[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You can create a sweetener
[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_01]: you know from
[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Honey from sap from trees from different plant leaves
[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You cannot create salt
[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well not to mention the whole
[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't share this enough
[00:48:36] [SPEAKER_02]: But the whole my first step would be if
[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_02]: I was in a situation where my
[00:48:44] [SPEAKER_02]: generator ran out
[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and the solar wasn't charging quick enough
[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_02]: and the
[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Gasoline was all used up and and the meat in the freezer was compromised
[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_02]: It would be a combination effort of
[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_02]: canning and
[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Salting and it would require a lot of salt. You know what I mean?
[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_02]: But I would coat everything in salt and hang it until I figured out what we're going to do next in terms of like
[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd know what we're going to do but i'm saying do you know
[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Do we want to eat some steak tonight that's been salted and hanging or do we want to let that cure completely?
[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_02]: You know that whole thing
[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so you got to have salt for that
[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_02]: You know all that all that bacon making and all that kind of fun stuff that you do with salted meats man and
[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Preservation you got the salt is a godsend for that
[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_05]: So you gotta have big time out
[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, then we did that
[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Go ahead. Sorry
[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, i'm just saying guys the next time you grab
[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_01]: The jones homestead i'll show you my cache of salt cash the salt mine
[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was gonna say the whole cavern or something. You know, that's a really cool idea actually
[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_02]: that's not a bad idea because
[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_02]: um
[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_02]: it's one of those things that like
[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty tough to
[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean if you're using foods food safe stuff like you could here's a great one
[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You could use like a four inch pvc pipe
[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_02]: And cap it on both ends and bury it and have a salt mine
[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_02]: You know 10 foot long fill the whole thing up and bury it
[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd be a lot of salt
[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, 10 feet long that'd be
[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Probably close to 100 pounds. Oh, that's a good point
[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Might be too heavy to move
[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_02]: It might even be heavier than that. Yeah, maybe cut her down to five two five pounders. I mean two five footers
[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Because wow that you know salt's pretty heavy. I mean it's heavier than sand. Yeah good point
[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay
[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, those two pound boxes I was talking about have weight to them themselves
[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_02]: So if you got yeah, I guess it wouldn't take all that much two pounds
[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So that would be you know, 25 of those little boxes would be 50 pounds. That's not that much. They're only about
[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_02]: six by
[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Like six high by maybe three or four deep
[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_02]: so
[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, hey winter
[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You guys want to do this again sometime and maybe make it
[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean when ben finally stops
[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay
[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Who and I feel like we're gonna have to check up on him
[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you get man
[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll give you my 12 hour weight check-ins and if I miss one, you know to come and get me. Yeah for real
[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. Okay
[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll break into the megs
[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Man, I got the new maybe next time next time we can do like five days
[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, i'm up for it
[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I found this to be
[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty easy and said too damn easy. I need more give me more
[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_01]: well
[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I you know
[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I was looking forward to it actually and even though I knew
[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_01]: What what we were doing and we're going on vacation. I said yeah put me down and maria was all in
[00:52:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she'll join us next time too
[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_01]: um
[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_02]: What about february?
[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah february i'm at my weakest i'm at my lowest
[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_02]: So that was why that was one of the reasons why gotham get out was such
[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Such a challenge and such a great thing to do because I already knew I was at my weakest point of the year february
[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_02]: So I was like man, I like it through this. This is this will be good january or february
[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Like right after the holidays maybe not like the day like the week after but
[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a nice way to get rid of a little excess maybe at the end of the
[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Year you have a little bit too much food and alcohol or whatnot and uh, I agree like with no sunshine i'm
[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I get kind of down in the dumps and here's something. I have not felt hardly
[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Any depression or anxiety over the last especially couple days and i'm not
[00:53:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah
[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Crippled by that by any means but you know occasionally i'll get my feelings here and there but try to power through
[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_05]: In a smart way and long story short, I haven't felt hardly depressed or in particularly in particular
[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_05]: anxious, even though we got all this
[00:53:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Crazy stuff going on in the world a lot of time. I'm a little anxious but uh,
[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like a little more calm and and like dave was saying
[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Like actually both you guys have said throughout, you know throughout the conversation that you know
[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_05]: You feel a little more motivated to do things and so that activity keeps your mind away from food
[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Also kind of makes you less anxious too. So yeah, that's
[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_05]: That's about all I got run a little on steam here
[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess a few minutes left here, but it's been a great call
[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I I have to bring this up because I mentioned it to james earlier. Okay
[00:53:59] [SPEAKER_01]: One thing that happened to me
[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh your sex drive just drops off a mountain
[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean those oysters
[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I you just it's like pah I might as well be a unique
[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_01]: okay
[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_01]: because because normally i'm pretty uh
[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_01]: As they say in england randy
[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But uh, yeah that was non-existent it was like someone flipped a switch and I was
[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_01]: That's that
[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my wife was out of town. So that probably it was out of my head to begin with
[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_02]: See
[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_02]: There was nothing there was nothing on the table for me. You know what I mean? Anyway
[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_02]: but uh
[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_02]: garden girl says that february is her
[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Birthday month so she would also like to join us for a fast in the end of month of february
[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_02]: nice
[00:55:03] [SPEAKER_02]: That will do it can build up to it
[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_02]: We can get we can really con people into doing it this time because they'll all feel all fattened up from the
[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Cringle and all the deliciousness of the holidays
[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I like it. I like it. Let's do it. I'm in i'm in for sure the resolution
[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see how many people we could get to join us and experience
[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_01]: this
[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_01]: unbelievable
[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_01]: benefit
[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Confidence builder
[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you name it. I mean there's
[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's a downside
[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't ever ever experience any problems at all
[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_02]: Never
[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't think I have
[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, unless you could say like lightheadedness or something but even that pet seems to pass
[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_02]: You know even when even if you're exerting yourself and you feel like oh i'm getting a little light-headed like it passes
[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_02]: And then you're back to normal. It's not like i'm gonna pass out because i'm starving to death. Like it's nowhere near that, right?
[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no and and
[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh the other day when I was doing all this stuff and sweating my butt off and
[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I I changed my shirt like three times and i'm oh you're right
[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_02]: No, that is a downside my breath and my body are on another level
[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_02]: That is that is one downside you're 100 once I get ketone
[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_02]: ketonic and because I think I get ketonic real easily so it happens super fast
[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And then you know today today was just like I was a different man
[00:56:43] [SPEAKER_02]: There's all new smells coming off of me i'm like what in the hell is burning off right now
[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_02]: But that is that is one of those things where you like, you know, something has changed
[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's one of those things where you're like something has changed like there's things coming out of me. I'm not used to
[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but you know
[00:57:03] [SPEAKER_02]: Not really that big of a downside it wasn't like
[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't necessarily have to be around a bunch of people and my kids nor my wife said anything about it
[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_02]: They weren't like god dad, you know, so
[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_02]: At least in my house wasn't a big deal
[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_01]: but you know in vietnam they said that uh
[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_01]: the vietcong could smell
[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_01]: the americans
[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Because they smelled like hamburgers and stuff like that and and with the snipers and people
[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_01]: The lerp long-range reconnaissance people did who were out in the jungle all the time
[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_01]: They started eating what the vietcong ate
[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_01]: So they smell like your enemy. I mean they said they could smell them for kilometers
[00:57:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they smoked like stacks too. I'm sure that had a lot to do with it, right?
[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_02]: Smoking cigarettes you smell that shit that stays on you
[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_02]: True
[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_02]: But you never know
[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you what though. I i'll take a bowl of pho over a hamburger most days out of the week
[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_02]: So I understand it wouldn't have been a hard transition for me
[00:58:11] Yeah
[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Where they were flying in?
[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_01]: They were flying in all the beef from america and all this stuff, you know
[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_01]: And that was foreign to vietnam
[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean it would be easy to pick
[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_01]: These two smells out
[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially if you're out there doing what what we did
[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I believe that
[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Sure. Oh, yeah
[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, gentlemen, let's wrap it. I think we did a we did a solid hour
[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I think those who are intrigued are intrigued those who were not intrigued left 30 minutes ago. So we do
[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's about what we're gonna get out of it tonight
[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Uh good work. Hey, no matter what happens work. Everybody did a great job. It was fun
[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And uh, don't don't kill yourself then
[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_05]: No, i'm motivated to do it the right way and anytime I feel like if I felt extra sick or
[00:59:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I wake up tomorrow and I can't move trust me i'm gonna end the fast but uh
[00:59:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Another hand you got to just end it artificially
[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah
[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Now here's what i'm worried about. I actually have wednesday
[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I have a little bit of a uh, a work lunch
[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_05]: and
[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_05]: That's actually a social aspect. So i'm just gonna power through that if I can make it that far
[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Tell them hey guys, i'm having lemon water today and
[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Don't be ashamed of it. But on the other hand, it's so cool and then they'll talk about you behind your back
[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_05]: On the other hand, I might just you know eat that day because i'll get a free
[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_05]: You know free free lunches don't always come around but no no that's weakness. I'm gonna keep going
[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Dude dude, you got this you got this. Oh you definitely got
[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I will oh and i'm gonna be so here's the goal really what happened long story short
[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I talked about this for a couple minutes on one of my shows
[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_05]: You guys heard it. We thought it was a cool idea to try as a group
[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm really looking forward to doing what we're gonna do in february
[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_05]: But future dan on patriot power hour last week said you gotta make it till next patriot power hour
[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_05]: So that would be you know less than two days from now. That's gonna be more than 100 hours
[01:00:20] [SPEAKER_05]: That'd be like 120
[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_05]: um
[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_05]: We'll see if I make it
[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll try to make it a patriot power hour in a couple days
[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_05]: But if not, it has been a great time guys. This has been a great show, too
[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_02]: No doubt about it gentlemen. Have a good evening
[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And uh pbn family don't be afraid man. You're capable of insane things
[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_02]: All right, we'll talk to you guys soon
[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_02]: It's james walt and dave jones ben the breaker of them banksters cochran calling it a night
[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_02]: We will uh see you guys tomorrow. All right
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