Preppers LIVE: Uncle Joe's Army with Dave Jones

[00:00:03] You're listening to PBN. You're paying back the stability.

[00:00:32] Beautiful intro, huh Dave Jones? Yeah, I really like that. Who's that guy with the headphones on there?

[00:00:39] I don't know but he's a cool cat. I'll have to introduce you to him sometime. Well thanks.

[00:00:45] That was a cool speech too by the way. FN in 1911. I think it was FN 1911 right? Yeah.

[00:00:54] Handgun. Yeah. You were talking shotguns or about to talk shotguns before we started this show on Uncle Joes.

[00:01:02] Yeah, well let me do this. Happy New Year everyone out there in radio listening land and New Year's over. Keep prepping.

[00:01:13] Well there you go. We're in it and let's get in it. Right? Yeah. So everybody made sure we knew we were in it right off the bat.

[00:01:21] Yeah, what a new year. Gosh. So, um, okay, the reason I haven't been on lately is because I lost my phone.

[00:01:32] I've misplaced it somewhere that has all the speaker setups and my music and everything on there.

[00:01:38] And it's a phone that I haven't used. It's like two phones back. So that's how old this phone is.

[00:01:46] That you're on right now? No, no. This is my current phone.

[00:01:50] Oh. But the phone that I lost, that's why I've been doing daily audio caches and no one's heard from me since I don't know when.

[00:02:00] So that's the reason behind that. Right on.

[00:02:04] I've been getting these impressions, these feelings that I need to talk about firearms and shotguns in particular.

[00:02:13] But I want to tell everybody my thoughts on if you can only get one firearm, a 22 long rifle would be my go to one.

[00:02:25] If you can only get one firearm and yeah, the 22 long rifle versatility, you can hunt small game.

[00:02:34] You can hunt just about anything. Ammo is inexpensive. You can carry 50 rounds in a little box like that in your pocket.

[00:02:43] I mean, just about everybody has a 22 in their house. If you're foraging for ammunition, it's readily available.

[00:02:53] So that's my number one. My number two is a 12 gauge shotgun. And and that's for just everything all around defense hunting.

[00:03:09] You know, you can hunt with rifle slugs, big deer, whatever.

[00:03:16] 12 gauge shotguns, my number two. And then I did. I don't know why I've been on this this gun thing.

[00:03:26] But with the way things are going, you want to talk about the events that are going on right now?

[00:03:34] Yeah. First, I want to say Firewolf Forge Hunter SF reads rabbit tree says Happy New Year to everybody.

[00:03:43] Yay. In chat. Jay Fergie's in chat as well. Firewolf Forge asks, what's the survival one?

[00:03:52] The AR seven. I want like four of those. Is he talking about like the breakdown?

[00:03:58] Yeah. Damn thing. What's the name of the company?

[00:04:01] We have it used to be charter arms and now it's Henry Henry.

[00:04:08] Yeah. They own the design for it. It's a it's a semi automatic shotgun that all breaks down, goes in the stock and the stock actually floats.

[00:04:18] If you fall off your boat, it will float.

[00:04:23] It was first. Right. Yeah. It was first featured in 007 from Russia with the love.

[00:04:32] Oh, really? Yeah. He has that. He had that that gun.

[00:04:37] Yeah. Sweet little. That's that's like one of those. I feel like that gun is one of those things that every prepper wants.

[00:04:44] And I don't know almost anybody who has one. They are sweet.

[00:04:48] Yep. We had them in Alaska. They were part of our survival kit that we went to the field with.

[00:04:56] You know, it just it just was in the occhio.

[00:04:59] Yeah. That was a sled that we would pull with our.

[00:05:04] Yeah. We would pull this sled.

[00:05:06] Yeah. And then we got some snowmobiles and we hooked them on the back of a snowmobile and they pulled themselves.

[00:05:13] Enough of this pooling business.

[00:05:15] Yeah.

[00:05:15] But what about shotguns in particular?

[00:05:19] Well, I said I said to you that every night before bed, I think about a shotgun because I keep one close by at nighttime.

[00:05:28] And there's a bunch of ways you can keep ammo on your shotgun. But I just a couple of years ago, I decided that like a bandolier would be the way to go.

[00:05:38] A bandolier sling for the shotgun itself.

[00:05:42] And yeah, it's just fits, just works. Not too heavy.

[00:05:46] You know that.

[00:05:48] And you kind of perked up and started writing something down.

[00:05:51] And I didn't know if you had more on that topic or not.

[00:05:53] Well, I wanted to say, you know, a pump action shotgun, not that an automatic is bad.

[00:06:01] Automatic's great.

[00:06:02] But your pump action, you can you can repair it and get parts for it and fix it better than an automatic.

[00:06:13] So less things to go wrong.

[00:06:16] And they're just doing so much with shotguns nowadays.

[00:06:21] Tactical shotguns.

[00:06:22] I mean that Caltech, that's an amazing, you know, if you got about a-

[00:06:27] The bullpup?

[00:06:28] Yeah.

[00:06:29] The bullpup is sweet, man.

[00:06:31] Caltech's got some cool guns, I'll tell you.

[00:06:33] Oh yeah.

[00:06:34] I always wanted to get my hands on one of those sub 3000s.

[00:06:40] Yeah.

[00:06:41] You know what it's?

[00:06:41] Sub 3000?

[00:06:43] Yeah.

[00:06:43] It just looks like-

[00:06:45] A gun that folds in half.

[00:06:46] Yeah.

[00:06:46] It's like a 99 millimeter or 45 and folds right in half.

[00:06:50] And just right in the backpack.

[00:06:52] Yeah.

[00:06:53] Right in the backpack, I think it takes Glock magazines also.

[00:06:57] Yep.

[00:06:58] That's really, to be honest with you, that, depending on how this year shakes out, that might be the kind of thing lots of us are carrying, you know, by the three to six month mark if things keep going the way they're going.

[00:07:12] Yeah.

[00:07:14] And, you know, I have a list of things that, you know, if you're into the current threat situation, you know, people like action items.

[00:07:25] Yeah.

[00:07:26] Things that they can actually do to kind of make a difference in the situation.

[00:07:32] And I'm going to make a prediction right now that I think that an armed American will thwart a terrorist attack this year.

[00:07:44] That's a great prediction.

[00:07:47] Yeah.

[00:07:48] That's a great prediction.

[00:07:50] Yeah.

[00:07:51] That's a great prediction.

[00:07:51] I see this nothing but going up.

[00:07:54] I mean, we've talked about this a bunch of times in the past.

[00:07:59] I mean, we've talked about this a bunch of times in the past, you know, and I look back over the past year, which by the way, your compilation was amazing.

[00:08:12] Dane D's show.

[00:08:13] Dane D's show.

[00:08:13] Wasn't Dane D's show incredible about counting up all the guys who came across the border and spreading them out to the command?

[00:08:20] Yeah.

[00:08:20] I knew I had to put that one in.

[00:08:22] Yeah.

[00:08:23] And just the, and it was funny that you and I were thinking about it at the same time.

[00:08:29] Yeah.

[00:08:29] It's like we're on some, and that's not the first time that's happened.

[00:08:33] Oh no.

[00:08:35] It's like we had some kind of a mind meld going on there.

[00:08:38] And, and I said, Hey, it would be a great long show if you put these things together.

[00:08:44] And you said, and I didn't understand it at first, but you were working on it right then.

[00:08:49] And I'm like, well, well, I did want to do, I did want to do your Gotham get out long form.

[00:08:55] I still got to do that.

[00:08:56] But yeah, it took me a long time.

[00:08:58] Just that right there.

[00:09:00] Yeah.

[00:09:00] I was probably 101 fever knocking that thing out.

[00:09:05] Oh God.

[00:09:06] I was just willing myself through that.

[00:09:08] You know what I mean?

[00:09:09] I was like, I'll feel way better if I get this done.

[00:09:13] Even if I don't feel better, I'll feel better.

[00:09:15] You know what I mean?

[00:09:16] Yeah.

[00:09:17] I got had all the shows.

[00:09:18] I went and found them all.

[00:09:20] And I was just like, this year was just too good.

[00:09:22] Like this is going to be such a great collection.

[00:09:26] Yeah.

[00:09:26] And looking back on it, you know, it was a banner year.

[00:09:31] Oh, it was man.

[00:09:32] It was crazy.

[00:09:34] The 30 days of preps.

[00:09:37] Yeah.

[00:09:37] Yeah.

[00:09:37] Those you could put all together if it wasn't for the intro and the, the outro.

[00:09:43] Yeah.

[00:09:44] And then just the whole coverage of the flood and prepper camp.

[00:09:51] And gosh, that, that was amazing.

[00:09:54] Right.

[00:09:54] I left out completely.

[00:09:56] And I had to show, see, I did the whole thing as a video and I was going to run the video live on all the platforms.

[00:10:05] Oh, but the video was like eight hours of video.

[00:10:12] Wow.

[00:10:13] And when I went to start adding the video clip that I was going to do, like copy, copy, copy, copy, paste, paste, paste, paste across the whole thing.

[00:10:20] Yeah.

[00:10:21] I broke the whole clip champ program.

[00:10:24] Oh, when I broke it, it was like, you know, you get the wheel and it's like processing, processing.

[00:10:30] And it said, you can close or you can wait.

[00:10:33] And I waited a while and then it didn't come back.

[00:10:35] And then I closed it and I was like, maybe it auto save.

[00:10:37] And it didn't auto save shit.

[00:10:39] So then I had to start all over again.

[00:10:43] Yeah.

[00:10:44] You were getting video from everybody.

[00:10:47] Yeah.

[00:10:48] That's right.

[00:10:49] But in the, in the midst of that, here was the problem.

[00:10:53] I left out Tina.

[00:10:56] I left out Lisa, rather.

[00:10:58] I left out the SoCal prepper.

[00:11:01] Whoa.

[00:11:01] It was a big piece.

[00:11:03] The SoCal prepper was a big, what was a segment of the year when she came on and did some interviews about the space prepping.

[00:11:10] Then she even wound up doing a couple of her own show.

[00:11:13] And I kind of left her out completely on that.

[00:11:16] But other than that, I think it was pretty good collection.

[00:11:19] Oh yeah.

[00:11:20] It was, it was amazing.

[00:11:22] Yeah.

[00:11:23] It was amazing.

[00:11:23] Just, just all of it.

[00:11:24] And I listened to pretty much all of it all over the weekend.

[00:11:28] Yeah.

[00:11:30] Been working here, you know, 15 puppies, all that kind of stuff.

[00:11:35] And yeah.

[00:11:37] We're pre drying eggs now.

[00:11:39] Oh, nice.

[00:11:41] I like that man.

[00:11:42] Powdered egg.

[00:11:43] Yeah.

[00:11:45] Yeah.

[00:11:45] Everything egg Dave Jones, everything.

[00:11:47] Well, it's working good.

[00:11:49] We get about 20 eggs a day and then, you know, we can put a dozen in a tray.

[00:11:56] And then they, if you could run down and get me a pack, I could show it here.

[00:12:01] This is video.

[00:12:03] She's going to get me a pack.

[00:12:04] Oh, she.

[00:12:04] So I can show you what, what a dozen eggs look like.

[00:12:08] Oh, she.

[00:12:08] And they're about five ounces.

[00:12:10] When they're, when they're all freeze dried and packaged.

[00:12:14] I mean, it's, it's less than a pound.

[00:12:16] And, and that's a dozen eggs.

[00:12:19] That's amazing.

[00:12:19] Two teaspoons equals an egg.

[00:12:24] And yeah, it's, it's the way to go.

[00:12:27] So we can freeze dry these.

[00:12:30] And long after we are not able to keep chickens anymore, we can say, yeah, I got eggs.

[00:12:36] Yeah.

[00:12:37] Good eggs.

[00:12:37] Top quality too.

[00:12:39] Yeah.

[00:12:39] That's.

[00:12:40] I love that.

[00:12:41] You know, powder eggs, something that I buy.

[00:12:45] Yeah.

[00:12:45] And these long term food storage.

[00:12:47] All she does.

[00:12:49] Yeah.

[00:12:50] All she does is right there.

[00:12:53] Oh, I got to let one cough rip real quick.

[00:12:57] I'm going to go off camera, but show them off.

[00:12:59] Talk them up.

[00:12:59] Go ahead.

[00:13:01] So there's each tray will hold a dozen eggs.

[00:13:06] And when a tray is done, this is what it looks like.

[00:13:09] So that's a dozen eggs and it's about five, six ounces.

[00:13:13] Easy to carry all the nutrition last 25 years.

[00:13:18] I told Maria, she can make a big pot of stew and we can freeze dry it.

[00:13:23] And Deanna can give it to her kids and say, your grandmother made for you.

[00:13:32] Yeah.

[00:13:32] So you guys are doing, you can do one dozen eggs in the, in what is it?

[00:13:37] Freeze dried.

[00:13:38] And then back sealed.

[00:13:41] Back sealed and freeze dried.

[00:13:43] Okay.

[00:13:43] I like that.

[00:13:44] We got the medium freeze dryer.

[00:13:47] It was the one that had the, you know, the most bang for the buck for the tray size.

[00:13:53] And then a dozen eggs will fit in it.

[00:13:56] All you got to do is like beat them up a little.

[00:13:59] Yeah.

[00:14:00] Break them and put them in there and they'll freeze dry like this.

[00:14:04] And then you're just scraping out of the tray.

[00:14:07] Now, something that they don't tell you is that freeze dryer gets incredibly hot.

[00:14:12] So we only do, um, freeze drying when it's cold because we have it on the out porch, which we normally call our walk-in refrigerator.

[00:14:23] But when the freeze dryer is going, it heats that whole out porch up.

[00:14:28] Yeah.

[00:14:29] Oh, I gotcha.

[00:14:30] How about that?

[00:14:31] Yeah.

[00:14:32] Emergency, emergency heat source.

[00:14:35] Yeah.

[00:14:36] Hey, I've been thinking about that too.

[00:14:38] So if I get a kerosene heater at the end of this season, get it on sale, which by the way, PBN listeners check out all the clearances.

[00:14:50] January is huge because they got to, they got to sell their inventory between now and the end of January, or they have to inventory it and count it and report it back to the IRS.

[00:15:04] So it becomes 2025 inventory too.

[00:15:08] Yeah.

[00:15:08] Yeah.

[00:15:09] So right now you can get all kinds of deals.

[00:15:13] I mean, spend those gift cards.

[00:15:17] Yeah.

[00:15:18] So what was I, where was that going on that?

[00:15:21] We're going to talk about kerosene heat.

[00:15:23] Yeah.

[00:15:24] So if I get a kerosene heater, uh, at the end of this season, I will have six ways to heat the house.

[00:15:34] Okay.

[00:15:35] Very nice.

[00:15:36] And I was thinking about electricity.

[00:15:39] So I have, I have two generators.

[00:15:44] One of them, one of them's multi-fuel.

[00:15:46] I have a solar generator.

[00:15:49] I have three Jackeries.

[00:15:51] I have probably six, 600 watt, uh, solar panels.

[00:16:03] So what I'm, I'm thinking about now is figuring out how many different ways I can produce electricity.

[00:16:11] And I have 2,000 watt inverters, which I know my tractor will hook, hook one of them up.

[00:16:20] And I'm pretty sure David's go-kart, which produces.

[00:16:24] Oh.

[00:16:25] Yeah.

[00:16:25] Which produces 12 volts.

[00:16:28] Okay.

[00:16:29] I'm pretty sure I can hook it up to that.

[00:16:31] So I have two different ways to make electricity off of diesel and gasoline.

[00:16:39] So one's the tractor's diesel.

[00:16:41] Yeah, yeah.

[00:16:42] And then I have the solar generator.

[00:16:47] So that's three ways.

[00:16:49] 600 watts.

[00:16:50] Yeah.

[00:16:50] Of solar grabbing capacity.

[00:16:53] Yep.

[00:16:54] So that's, that's three ways to make electricity.

[00:16:57] Yeah.

[00:16:58] Okay.

[00:16:58] So I'm, I'm working on that now.

[00:17:01] Yeah.

[00:17:02] I, I love that.

[00:17:04] The tiered approach to preparedness is one of my favorite things.

[00:17:07] I, that's how I like to sleep at night is knowing that I got options.

[00:17:12] You know, this thing breaks, we got options.

[00:17:15] This thing doesn't work.

[00:17:17] You know, you, you've probably been there with a generator.

[00:17:18] You go out there and crank a generator.

[00:17:21] This thing ain't turning on what's wrong with it.

[00:17:24] You know, we, we lost power twice over this break.

[00:17:28] Oh, yeah.

[00:17:30] Yeah.

[00:17:30] Yeah.

[00:17:31] Just a random or was it weather related or what?

[00:17:35] Weather, weather, you know, I'm not going to be a good one.

[00:17:37] You know, got warm, a lot of rain, and then the wind started blowing and trees fall down.

[00:17:43] That's it.

[00:17:45] The big boys come down.

[00:17:47] So what do you think?

[00:17:49] Is this just the beginning of Uncle Joe's army or you think this is a hiccup in the, in the system?

[00:17:57] No, I, I think it's just the beginning.

[00:18:01] And there's some really strange things, really strange things.

[00:18:06] First of all, both of them are, are military.

[00:18:10] That's, that's strange in itself.

[00:18:13] I don't know if it's strange, but it did scare the shit out of me when I read it.

[00:18:17] Yeah.

[00:18:18] The one guy's special forces.

[00:18:21] He ain't.

[00:18:21] Yeah.

[00:18:23] Okay.

[00:18:23] That's, that's strange right there.

[00:18:25] Another thing that, that whole Las Vegas thing is an anomaly unto itself.

[00:18:33] Why would you choose a Tesla Cybertruck?

[00:18:37] Yeah.

[00:18:38] Which you know is tracked from the time it comes off the assembly line until it blows up.

[00:18:45] Right.

[00:18:46] Yeah.

[00:18:46] Yeah.

[00:18:47] You can't even, you can't even put gas in the thing or electric in the thing without them knowing exactly where you're at.

[00:18:53] You, they know everything about that truck.

[00:18:56] Yeah.

[00:18:56] So why would you choose that as opposed to the cheapest ass Toyota that you can rent?

[00:19:04] Yeah.

[00:19:04] That, that is a purpose.

[00:19:06] Not only that it's bulletproof.

[00:19:10] It's like, if you want to blow something up, you need something that's going to blow up.

[00:19:16] And then the guy die in there.

[00:19:18] Did he get out?

[00:19:19] He was shot in the head before the explosion.

[00:19:25] And they know this.

[00:19:27] Okay.

[00:19:27] From the autopsy.

[00:19:28] In the vehicle.

[00:19:29] In the vehicle.

[00:19:30] Now, there's gotta be video of that.

[00:19:35] Okay.

[00:19:37] I'm thinking, what is all this?

[00:19:41] There's a reason behind all of this.

[00:19:44] This is too bizarre.

[00:19:45] The bomb.

[00:19:47] Okay.

[00:19:48] Was so amateuristic.

[00:19:50] I can't even tell you.

[00:19:52] Okay.

[00:19:53] I'm not a special forces guy.

[00:19:56] And I could have made a better bomb than that.

[00:19:58] Well, now that's interesting.

[00:20:00] Now that is an interesting point.

[00:20:02] Yeah.

[00:20:03] Why string together some junk and put junk into a hundred thousand dollar cyber truck?

[00:20:09] That won't blow up.

[00:20:11] Right.

[00:20:12] I mean, if you wanted to go about limiting the amount of casualties you could possibly produce.

[00:20:20] And have an evidence trail that's irrefutable.

[00:20:25] This is the way you would do it.

[00:20:31] Sounds like suicide.

[00:20:34] That's my day.

[00:20:36] Yeah.

[00:20:36] When I read about that, rent the car, put the bomb in it, drive it up and put a big show on with a Tesla outside of Donald Trump.

[00:20:44] The Vegas location.

[00:20:47] It sounds like, you know, one of those.

[00:20:50] I don't even think a name for those suicides.

[00:20:52] Those suicides need a name.

[00:20:54] Yeah.

[00:20:54] But this suicide is there's way more to it than just suicide.

[00:21:01] Yeah.

[00:21:02] If the guy wanted to go out suicide by cop, this, this was not there.

[00:21:08] There, there is a statement.

[00:21:10] There is evidence all in that.

[00:21:13] I mean, you don't get a special forces.

[00:21:17] E eight.

[00:21:18] Okay.

[00:21:19] To do something like this.

[00:21:22] I mean, if that's who it is.

[00:21:25] Yeah.

[00:21:25] They said the body was burnt beyond recognition.

[00:21:28] And there is a point where they can't recover DNA.

[00:21:34] Back when I was with the joint personal effects depot.

[00:21:38] First of all, all military people today.

[00:21:42] Their DNA is on file.

[00:21:45] Okay.

[00:21:45] Used to be panorax dental records.

[00:21:49] Now they actually have your DNA.

[00:21:51] Can you rock this for like three, four minutes?

[00:21:54] Sure.

[00:21:56] Okay.

[00:21:56] Give me a sec.

[00:21:57] Go ahead.

[00:21:58] Okay.

[00:21:59] So everybody that's in the military to now today has their DNA on file.

[00:22:06] So when the plane went down in Nova Scotia or Newfoundland, something like that.

[00:22:14] They, they started to do panoraxes for everybody in the military because they couldn't identify everybody that was on this plane that went down.

[00:22:23] So dental records was the choice back then.

[00:22:27] And now it's DNA and you can get DNA off of just about anything.

[00:22:35] But if you're in a fire that burns at high heat for a long period of time, it can destroy and you won't get enough DNA from it.

[00:22:46] And I know this from a, um, a person that needed to be identified in Iraqi war.

[00:22:54] He was in a Bradley fighting vehicle and, uh, it burned for a long, long period of time at high heat.

[00:23:04] Um, and they did not get positive identification because of that.

[00:23:09] So there's just too many strange things with this Las Vegas, um, bomb.

[00:23:18] It it's just too odd of an anomaly that it doesn't make any sense.

[00:23:26] Uh, that's one thing.

[00:23:28] And then the, uh, the one in New Orleans, you know, if you want to kill a lot of people, apparently a pickup truck is the one in New Orleans.

[00:23:39] The way to do it these days, uh, driving into a crowd of people who knew it's better than an automatic weapon.

[00:23:47] But that guy also had a weapons.

[00:23:52] There's reports of IE's that were being placed.

[00:23:56] Um, the one thing I know for sure, you have to question what the FBI tells you as being the truth, because these guys are coming out.

[00:24:10] Okay.

[00:24:11] Okay.

[00:24:11] Right.

[00:24:11] We're probably going to get banned on YouTube now.

[00:24:14] Oh, well.

[00:24:15] Yeah.

[00:24:17] I mean, they come out and they say, Oh, it's not a terrorist attack.

[00:24:20] Anybody that looks at his social media knows it's a terrorist attack.

[00:24:26] He's got an ISIS flag in the back of the truck.

[00:24:30] I mean, give me a break.

[00:24:32] They'd be better off to say nothing.

[00:24:35] We don't understand why they don't opt to say nothing.

[00:24:38] Come out and say, this is what happened.

[00:24:41] It happened here.

[00:24:41] The investigation is ongoing, but they come out and say things like, Oh, it's not terror related.

[00:24:46] It's not this.

[00:24:48] It's not that.

[00:24:49] I think when that when Trump got shot, and I'm sitting here with my wife, an ATF guy came on and said, we know it's not a slingshot.

[00:24:59] I swear on everything that I hold dear in life, this ATF nut comes on and says, we're pretty sure it's not it wasn't a slingshot.

[00:25:09] I mean, me and my wife were just dying.

[00:25:11] We were dying laughing and we're saying like, who, who hires these people?

[00:25:16] Well, and even Christopher Ray, when he was questioned, he says something like we're not sure it was a gun, a rifle.

[00:25:25] Yeah, and I'm like, what?

[00:25:27] What else makes that noise?

[00:25:29] Well, and and kills people in the audience.

[00:25:32] Yeah, right. Right.

[00:25:33] What else was it?

[00:25:34] A BB gun?

[00:25:36] Yeah, yeah.

[00:25:37] The guy died in front of his wife from a point one seven caliber tungsten freaking pellet.

[00:25:45] Yeah.

[00:25:47] So the people in charge are protecting us.

[00:25:50] They can't do the difference between a slingshot and a five five six round.

[00:25:55] Yeah.

[00:25:56] A car beat. It's amazing.

[00:25:58] But you know, like I said, it's an age of mediocrity.

[00:26:01] We're pulling out of Dave Jones.

[00:26:03] I do think we're pulling out of it at certain levels, but we have become very accustomed to mediocre people in very high places.

[00:26:11] Yeah.

[00:26:11] And this is what we get.

[00:26:13] This is what you get.

[00:26:14] You know what I mean?

[00:26:14] When you have people who are who don't belong in a job that they're in doing that job over time, even smart people, even people who are paying attention, get used to it.

[00:26:23] You get used to like, oh, OK, you don't know nothing.

[00:26:27] All right.

[00:26:29] You know?

[00:26:30] Yeah.

[00:26:31] You can't see the writing on the wall.

[00:26:34] But yeah.

[00:26:35] So I think I think for the year I'm going to refer to these acts of terror as and the people who perpetrate them as members of Uncle Joe's army because of what we talked about earlier, the amount of people who've come here.

[00:26:50] Well, the car came here from across the border, right?

[00:26:54] The car that killed the people.

[00:26:56] Well, they know that it had traversed the border.

[00:27:00] Yeah.

[00:27:01] Because they have evidence.

[00:27:02] You know, they they scan your license plate.

[00:27:05] They take pictures and they know that it came across the border.

[00:27:09] Right.

[00:27:10] Yeah.

[00:27:10] Yeah.

[00:27:12] So that, you know.

[00:27:14] Eagle Pass.

[00:27:15] Yeah.

[00:27:16] Is what I saw.

[00:27:18] Yeah.

[00:27:19] Yeah.

[00:27:19] And it's just too many things that are just crazy, crazy bizarre and questionable.

[00:27:27] You know, if they have these IDs who planted those, you know, IEDs.

[00:27:36] Are you talking I-85 now?

[00:27:38] No, no.

[00:27:39] They had explosives planted throughout Bourbon Street.

[00:27:45] Oh, and New Orleans.

[00:27:47] And they, they, they found other people that were planting these bombs.

[00:27:52] And then they, they came out and said, we're looking for other suspects.

[00:27:55] And now they say, no, he was all by himself.

[00:27:59] And it's like, what changed?

[00:28:02] What, what changed?

[00:28:05] Man.

[00:28:06] Yeah.

[00:28:08] This stuff is what I, this is what I don't understand.

[00:28:10] I don't understand if it's purposeful.

[00:28:13] If the response is purposeful.

[00:28:16] Because it seems like even, and again, it could be mediocre people in high places, but it seems like you would have to care a little bit.

[00:28:26] Like, we're going to piss these people off if we keep telling them bullshit every time we're on TV.

[00:28:34] You know?

[00:28:34] If we tell people every time we're on TV, it was 15 guys.

[00:28:39] Maybe it was 15 guys.

[00:28:41] There's 16 bombs.

[00:28:42] Nope.

[00:28:43] It was one guy and he's dead.

[00:28:44] We can't ask him any questions.

[00:28:45] Case closed.

[00:28:47] Yeah.

[00:28:47] Like people are going to start saying, well, maybe I'll just take matters into my own hands.

[00:28:53] Next time I see a strange guy walking around with a bag full of bombs.

[00:28:57] You know what I mean?

[00:28:58] Yeah.

[00:28:59] Yeah.

[00:29:00] If they want that, or if they just suck so much that this is how they do business seems impossible to me though, to be the latter.

[00:29:10] Well, if you look back, you know, defund the police, black lives matter.

[00:29:17] You know, this was all designed to cripple police departments all across the country and every major city.

[00:29:24] They can't get people to be police officers.

[00:29:28] Right.

[00:29:28] And, and if they're the ones that are going to respond to whatever they have planned.

[00:29:35] Okay.

[00:29:36] Because the October 7th, the one in Israel, the police were the ones that responded, not the military.

[00:29:48] Right.

[00:29:49] So here's what I'm, the terrorists learn.

[00:29:53] They develop tactics.

[00:29:55] They know our response.

[00:29:58] They know our rules of engagement.

[00:30:00] They exploit them whenever they can.

[00:30:03] They'll, they'll house, command to control ammunition in religious, you know, mosques and stuff like that.

[00:30:12] Knowing that we can't bomb them.

[00:30:14] They'll do everything they can.

[00:30:16] And the Mumbai attacks was a major shift in the way terrorist operations occur.

[00:30:25] And this was, they did recon and intelligence on multiple targets.

[00:30:34] And then they let these guys go in there like commandos and, and choose and decide.

[00:30:41] Right.

[00:30:41] And they were armed.

[00:30:44] And if something happened, that they wanted to change targets, they had the, you know, they didn't have to call and get approval.

[00:30:55] Right.

[00:30:55] They were totally autonomous.

[00:30:57] And they fought until the last man.

[00:31:03] So those things right there, they know that we barricade and start negotiations.

[00:31:10] They know that.

[00:31:12] Right.

[00:31:13] But what we didn't know is that they're going to fight to the last guy.

[00:31:17] Right.

[00:31:18] So that barricading and, and, you know, start negotiation.

[00:31:24] They have no need for negotiations.

[00:31:27] Right.

[00:31:27] They came to die.

[00:31:29] Yeah.

[00:31:29] So, uh, those kinds of attacks are, are what's going to be perpetrated next.

[00:31:37] And, and a lot larger scale.

[00:31:40] So what can you do?

[00:31:41] Carry extra ammo.

[00:31:43] You're, you're already carrying, carry extra ammo.

[00:31:48] Also, tactical knife, not a knife that's on a multi tool, something that you can actually use in a combat situation, because the knife might be the only thing you have to save your life.

[00:32:09] I'll tell you one thing I learned about knives.

[00:32:12] You probably learned about it when you were 20.

[00:32:15] It took me a while to learn this.

[00:32:17] And I don't have an example right here.

[00:32:19] Oh, Oh, I do have an example, but it's a touchy.

[00:32:22] It's a touchy example.

[00:32:25] I don't know if I can show it on YouTube.

[00:32:28] I don't know if I could show it on air.

[00:32:31] I live in Richmond.

[00:32:32] You got to understand my father-in-law is born and raised in Richmond, his father before him and his father before him.

[00:32:39] I don't have to show you.

[00:32:40] But the one thing I didn't realize about all my cool folding knives is a knife without a hilt.

[00:32:51] Yeah.

[00:32:53] Just all of a sudden started scaring me to death.

[00:32:56] Because I started thinking if it's if my hand gets sweaty.

[00:33:01] Yeah.

[00:33:02] Or it gets covered in blood.

[00:33:04] Right.

[00:33:04] And almost all the folding knives that I have, my knife is going to go in and then it's going to cut my hand.

[00:33:12] If I'm jabbing, you know what I mean?

[00:33:15] Yeah.

[00:33:16] If you if you stab something and hit a bone.

[00:33:19] Yeah.

[00:33:20] Up the knife, cut the hand.

[00:33:22] Right.

[00:33:22] Right.

[00:33:23] So keep that in mind, because that was something only up until a couple of years ago.

[00:33:27] And I have a lot of knives, but I didn't calculate like if this really gets kinetic.

[00:33:34] Yeah.

[00:33:34] These things are going to probably hurt me more than somebody else.

[00:33:38] Yeah.

[00:33:38] Or at least put me in a situation where now I got extra wounds just from my own knife.

[00:33:43] You know what I mean?

[00:33:44] Yeah.

[00:33:44] And then not only that, if these terror attacks escalate, which I think they're going to, they're going to be body armored up.

[00:33:54] Oh, that's a good point.

[00:33:56] Yeah.

[00:33:56] They're they're going to be.

[00:33:59] So a tactical knife, you know, whereas a gun is great.

[00:34:06] There's no new substitution.

[00:34:08] OK, but, you know, you may want to carry a tactical fighting knife as part of your EDC.

[00:34:19] Yeah.

[00:34:20] And, you know, for urban and suburban, this is something to consider, too.

[00:34:23] And it's a problem that I haven't shored up yet.

[00:34:26] But I've been thinking about it a lot.

[00:34:29] There are times and there are trips when the shorter pistol, the shorter pistol five, five, six will come into the truck.

[00:34:42] You know what I mean?

[00:34:43] Yeah.

[00:34:43] And and it's not a long term solution because I worry about it getting lifted.

[00:34:53] Yeah.

[00:34:53] Yeah.

[00:34:54] Because even if it's in a locked gun case, somebody could still break your windows out and take your locked gun case.

[00:35:00] They'll open it.

[00:35:01] You know, or or steal your whole vehicle or that.

[00:35:05] Yeah.

[00:35:06] I mean, I think that's probably less likely in my neck of the woods.

[00:35:10] I don't know what car thefts are like and everywhere everybody else lives.

[00:35:13] What I most worry about is someone going through the car, taking the rifle case.

[00:35:17] So what I've been thinking about is a system that would hold the gun in in place in a way that, you know, you would need keys to get it loose or, you know, something along those something severely secure.

[00:35:33] Yeah.

[00:35:35] Yeah.

[00:35:35] Yeah.

[00:35:36] We need to have magnetic locks that, you know, we went back when police cars carried shotguns.

[00:35:44] Okay.

[00:35:45] Because I don't see them anymore.

[00:35:46] I don't know what they use.

[00:35:48] You know, when I was a state trooper in Alaska, I carried a 7.62 in my trunk.

[00:35:58] Okay.

[00:35:59] This was a, it was actually an H&K model 91.

[00:36:06] It was a, no, it was a, it was a semi-automatic 308.

[00:36:13] Yeah.

[00:36:13] H&K.

[00:36:14] But you know, in Alaska, you could dispatch a bear, a moose.

[00:36:20] You needed to have something like that.

[00:36:23] You were throwing thunder with a semi-automatic 308, man.

[00:36:26] Yeah.

[00:36:27] And then when we were talking about weapons and I did 22 and then 12 gauge, and then I would do a 9 millimeter before I do an AR.

[00:36:40] And simply because 9 millimeter is the most plentiful round in the world.

[00:36:46] Yeah.

[00:36:48] Yeah.

[00:36:49] Your thought process on guns is, is almost exactly mine.

[00:36:55] The only thing I would change is 12 gauge first because it's cheaper.

[00:36:59] No, not really.

[00:37:01] Is it 22 is probably a shotgun is probably about the same.

[00:37:05] Yeah.

[00:37:06] Yeah.

[00:37:06] Hands down.

[00:37:07] What gets me the 22 being first is you can carry a hundred rounds in your pocket.

[00:37:14] That's a good one.

[00:37:15] And those hundred rounds, even, even because they're, they're small.

[00:37:20] If you get bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang going off.

[00:37:24] Yeah.

[00:37:24] People are going to duck their heads.

[00:37:26] Yeah.

[00:37:27] In my neck of the woods, I went to what?

[00:37:29] 12 gauge first before I got a 22 because, uh, home invasion was the thing.

[00:37:36] Yeah.

[00:37:37] You know what I mean?

[00:37:37] Oh yeah.

[00:37:38] I didn't really have much to do with a 22 rifle.

[00:37:41] I wasn't even really, when I bought my shotgun, I wasn't even really hunting yet.

[00:37:44] Yeah.

[00:37:45] The shotgun was 100% for two legged foes.

[00:37:49] Yeah.

[00:37:49] But, uh, I could definitely see it.

[00:37:52] Yeah.

[00:37:52] Now, if I look back, I probably wouldn't say get that 22.

[00:37:55] Well, I mean, you know, there's a difference between prepperdom and, and home defense.

[00:38:02] So, you know, if you're in prepperdom at 22 makes all, all kinds of sense.

[00:38:10] Oh yeah.

[00:38:10] If you're animals.

[00:38:12] Yeah.

[00:38:13] If you're hunting, if you're dealing with freaking predators, good God almighty.

[00:38:20] And, and dispatching small animals or even teaching someone how to shoot.

[00:38:25] Well, that's yeah, that's critical.

[00:38:27] 22.

[00:38:28] There's no substitute.

[00:38:30] Yeah.

[00:38:30] And then, and then a nine millimeter.

[00:38:34] And then an AR, AR platform, either in a five, five, six or 7.62.

[00:38:42] And then whatever you do, standardize it across the board.

[00:38:47] So if, if you're going to have a nine millimeter and your wife's going to have a nine millimeter,

[00:38:53] have the same nine millimeter, so you can share magazines.

[00:38:57] Oh yeah.

[00:38:58] That's their ammo.

[00:38:59] Uh, if hers breaks, you can cannibalize parts from yours to make hers work, you know,

[00:39:07] standardize as much as you can, even down to the multi tool.

[00:39:12] And I'll tell you this.

[00:39:13] So I carry this cheapy multi tool all the time.

[00:39:18] Yeah.

[00:39:19] And, and it has a certain widget on it.

[00:39:24] Well, now, now that multi tool has broken.

[00:39:28] Okay.

[00:39:29] Cause it was a cheapy and I got the Gerber that I'm carrying right now and it doesn't have the

[00:39:35] same widgets.

[00:39:36] And I'm like, Oh man.

[00:39:39] I know.

[00:39:39] Yeah.

[00:39:40] Yeah.

[00:39:41] I'll tell you what, I bought a cheap multi tool too.

[00:39:45] It was a two pack.

[00:39:46] Yeah.

[00:39:47] Red from tractor supply.

[00:39:49] Yeah.

[00:39:49] We're going on.

[00:39:54] God, we're probably going on eight, seven, eight years.

[00:39:58] And my son's doesn't work.

[00:40:00] I bought it a two pack specifically because there was a big one and there was a big one

[00:40:04] and a little one.

[00:40:05] Yeah.

[00:40:06] And my son was probably five or something like that at the time.

[00:40:09] And I said, all right, you're going to get the little one.

[00:40:11] I'm going to get the big one.

[00:40:11] We'll have the same one.

[00:40:12] He put his in his tackle box and then years and years and years went by.

[00:40:18] I've had to tighten some things on it, but the thing still works.

[00:40:24] It's in my car right now.

[00:40:25] It's amazing.

[00:40:26] Still works.

[00:40:27] They're all these years.

[00:40:28] I think the both of them were 15 bucks.

[00:40:30] Yeah.

[00:40:31] There is.

[00:40:32] Oh, I can't tell you there.

[00:40:35] There's a, okay.

[00:40:36] Okay.

[00:40:37] So we have a procedure here and I, I tell them this, them, the rest of them, that them,

[00:40:46] they're going to each have a belt.

[00:40:48] And when they go outside the door, this is what's going to be on that belt.

[00:40:53] And they're supposed to strap that on and take it with them.

[00:40:56] One of them is a firearm, a nine millimeter, a multi tool.

[00:41:03] And, and I, a camp knife, a knife that they can, a fixed blade that they can do stuff with.

[00:41:12] And that is the minimum that you will carry in an SHTF situation inside the perimeter.

[00:41:21] I like it.

[00:41:22] Yeah.

[00:41:23] I like it.

[00:41:24] Maybe a two way.

[00:41:26] Yeah.

[00:41:27] Yeah.

[00:41:28] Definitely.

[00:41:28] Everybody has radios.

[00:41:30] Oh, so that's outside of the belt.

[00:41:32] They already got it.

[00:41:33] Yeah.

[00:41:33] Because, uh, inside the perimeter we use in family band.

[00:41:38] Yeah.

[00:41:39] And then anybody that goes outside, we use GMRS.

[00:41:43] There you go.

[00:41:44] Okay.

[00:41:44] And the family band is, you know, uh, less power and it just operates within the perimeter.

[00:41:53] And the GMRS, we have base stations and it can go up to, you know, five, six miles more than that.

[00:42:01] If you hit the repeater.

[00:42:03] Um, and of course we have, we have ham to monitor.

[00:42:08] I have CB radios.

[00:42:11] I have scanners.

[00:42:12] I, yeah.

[00:42:14] And you're in a great spot.

[00:42:17] Yeah.

[00:42:17] Probably through all kinds of stuff when you click them babies on it.

[00:42:20] Cause you're up there.

[00:42:22] Yeah.

[00:42:22] I bet you get a lot of stuff up there.

[00:42:24] I'm in a valley.

[00:42:25] It's a little bit of a, I gotta get out there in the world to hear anything, but yeah, it's good.

[00:42:31] That's good.

[00:42:32] The, I definitely want to, I definitely want to solidify.

[00:42:36] Uh, well, there's a couple of things I want to solidify this year and it all, it all,

[00:42:42] it's all going to help in these sorts of situations.

[00:42:45] Um, one of them is that sort of long distance.

[00:42:49] Um, emergency comms situation.

[00:42:53] You know what I mean?

[00:42:55] Yeah.

[00:42:55] That long distance.

[00:42:56] No, no cell service, no whatever, you know, because we've, the thing about these attacks.

[00:43:05] Is they're so lame.

[00:43:08] And that's what makes me, uh, think that they're even less than preliminary.

[00:43:17] You know what I mean?

[00:43:19] Yeah.

[00:43:19] Like there's, they're old tactics, you know, just old tired things we've seen done 10 years now.

[00:43:27] Yeah.

[00:43:28] You know, like car bomb and a guy ramming people and then getting out and shot with the police.

[00:43:34] You know what I mean?

[00:43:35] Like there's no, you don't, when these attacks happen, you never go like, Oh, that I wouldn't have thought of that.

[00:43:44] You know what I mean?

[00:43:45] And I just have to think that like something doesn't line up with that with me, Dave, because I listen to people.

[00:43:52] I know for a fact that there's been Muslim training facilities, tactical training facilities in the United States for as long as I've been doing podcasts.

[00:44:02] So it's 12 years now or something like that.

[00:44:06] They can't be sitting up there all day going, then you drive the car into the people and then you shoot with the police until you're dead.

[00:44:15] Yeah.

[00:44:16] Class is over.

[00:44:17] You know what I mean?

[00:44:19] Like the drones have to get involved, multi men operations.

[00:44:23] Like when I see these things, I go like, this may be something, but this is not the something that anybody's with half a brain's been planned.

[00:44:34] Yeah.

[00:44:35] Cause I, in a, in a, in five minutes, I could scroll a better use of time and people and effort than ram your car in there with a flag on it and get killed.

[00:44:47] Yeah.

[00:44:47] So that's what makes me nervous about these attacks is I don't look at them and go like, Oh, we're wearing them down.

[00:44:55] Yeah.

[00:44:56] You know what I mean?

[00:44:57] Yeah.

[00:44:57] I don't know.

[00:44:59] It doesn't blow me away.

[00:45:01] In other words, it's terrible tragedy.

[00:45:03] Don't get me wrong.

[00:45:04] It's just from the standpoint of watching what terrorists are up to.

[00:45:07] It's like, this can't be the, this is definitely not the B team even.

[00:45:12] No.

[00:45:12] No.

[00:45:13] No.

[00:45:13] And what makes me nervous and worry about cell service and that kind of stuff is I think that the B team and the A team is going to come with a lots of explosives, explosive air warfare with drones.

[00:45:27] And I think they're going to be able to take out power and, you know, wifi and stuff like that to an area.

[00:45:33] Yeah.

[00:45:34] Because, you know, cell towers are just that cell towers.

[00:45:39] And if you take those towers down, let's say you have one team that just takes care of towers.

[00:45:46] Yeah.

[00:45:47] They identify, they identify like five different towers that are critical to communications within an area.

[00:45:55] Then you have another team, man, maybe I shouldn't be saying this.

[00:46:01] Listen.

[00:46:02] Another team that takes care of electricity in an area.

[00:46:06] Okay.

[00:46:06] If that guy is getting paid, what is it?

[00:46:08] A hundred million dollars a month or something from the U.S. government, you're not going to divulge anything they haven't thought of.

[00:46:14] Yeah.

[00:46:16] But you have all these different teams and they're, they're assigned their missions to the overall support of whatever the combat operation is.

[00:46:27] So they go and execute independently all on their own.

[00:46:32] And then the combat unit takes out their target.

[00:46:36] I mean, it's yeah.

[00:46:39] Yeah, it makes sense.

[00:46:41] This is what I mean.

[00:46:43] When I watch these attacks happen, I go, this is not the real show.

[00:46:47] You know what I mean?

[00:46:48] Right.

[00:46:48] This is not even the opening act.

[00:46:50] Like this is the guy outside while you're in line for the show who bangs on the five gallon drums for a dollar tip.

[00:46:58] Yeah.

[00:46:58] Yeah.

[00:47:00] So.

[00:47:01] We seem very poorly prepared for the guy with the five gallon bucket drum.

[00:47:05] I don't know what we would do against what you're talking about.

[00:47:09] Yeah.

[00:47:11] Especially when you consider the people that are going to respond to that are your local sheriffs, your local police department that, you know, they're.

[00:47:25] They're woefully fire.

[00:47:28] They're woefully unprepared to go up against someone in body armor that has multiple weapon systems, highly trained, has hand grenades.

[00:47:40] Oh, yeah.

[00:47:41] Yeah.

[00:47:42] They are.

[00:47:43] They are.

[00:47:44] They are just nothing more than targets, you know.

[00:47:47] So let's go over some more of the stuff that.

[00:47:51] Yeah.

[00:47:52] So I have avoid large crowds, but you can't always do that.

[00:47:57] So then you have to you have to what if yourself.

[00:48:01] Oh, yes.

[00:48:02] OK.

[00:48:03] So you go into, let's say, a movie theater and you say, what if the power goes off?

[00:48:10] There's the exit.

[00:48:12] What if, you know, identify multiple exits.

[00:48:15] Uh huh.

[00:48:16] Be aware of the people that are in there.

[00:48:20] That's going to be a problem.

[00:48:22] That person in a wheelchair is going to trip everybody up if we try and get them out first.

[00:48:29] Do you know what I mean?

[00:48:30] Sure, yes.

[00:48:31] If that wheelchair gets stuck on the stairs leading out of the theater, no one else is going to get around it and everybody's going to get hurt.

[00:48:44] Yeah.

[00:48:45] Uh, just, just stuff like that.

[00:48:47] What if, what if, what if.

[00:48:49] And then converse with the people you're there with also on that.

[00:48:54] Yeah.

[00:48:55] Right.

[00:48:56] Right.

[00:48:57] Family and stuff.

[00:48:58] If, if you're in the, if, if your family's there, you have to talk about the what if.

[00:49:05] And, and you say, if the power goes off, there's the exit right there.

[00:49:09] You head for the exit.

[00:49:12] You know?

[00:49:13] Yeah.

[00:49:14] Yeah.

[00:49:14] I mean, it would, I don't do this, but nowadays it wouldn't be bad to probably go find those exits while you're in your car before you enter.

[00:49:24] Yeah.

[00:49:25] That way you could say, you know, the, this back of this, this building is where the exits are.

[00:49:31] So when you come out, you're going to come out of one of these doors.

[00:49:33] This is what you're going to see.

[00:49:35] Go left or go right to get to the main lot where the car is.

[00:49:39] Don't just assume the main lot is safe.

[00:49:42] So you got to do some, you know, some recon before you go run into the family vehicle.

[00:49:48] Yeah.

[00:49:48] And if you just keep asking yourself, what if, what if, what if, and you know, do, do you have a little flashlight?

[00:49:56] I mean, other than your phone.

[00:49:59] Okay.

[00:50:00] Do you have a little flashlight?

[00:50:02] I have one that I carry in all my coat pockets.

[00:50:05] I have a little flashlight.

[00:50:06] Yeah.

[00:50:07] Something like that.

[00:50:09] Yep.

[00:50:10] Yeah.

[00:50:11] The lights go out.

[00:50:12] It happens.

[00:50:13] No doubt about it.

[00:50:14] And if you have a flashlight, that means you're probably, I'd say you're probably about five seconds ahead of everyone else getting to the exit, which is huge.

[00:50:26] Yeah.

[00:50:27] Because in order for you to pick this up, click it, flip the screen, find the flashlight, turn the flashlight on.

[00:50:35] Yeah.

[00:50:35] By the time you do that, if Dave Jones is here, here, and his family's already moving to the, yeah, they're going to be out safe long before you guys.

[00:50:44] So keep that in mind.

[00:50:46] Yeah.

[00:50:47] Yeah.

[00:50:48] I mean, it's just, you, you just have to take yourself through a scenario.

[00:50:54] So I, at one time I was a security guard and I was guarding like $2 million in gold.

[00:51:02] And, and this was in a shopping mall and we had a power failure.

[00:51:08] And of course I am the only one there with a flashlight inside a shopping mall, no windows, no, nothing.

[00:51:18] Just, just the single emergency light, you know, to show you where the exit is and how to get out.

[00:51:26] So, you know, I turned the flashlight on and I told it, I told the guys put, put the gold away and they, they put it all away, locked it up just in case someone was going to do a snatch and grab and run.

[00:51:40] And yeah, flashlight.

[00:51:42] Well, that's a big one.

[00:51:43] No doubt about it.

[00:51:45] That's a big one for sure.

[00:51:47] The dark is a whole different thing.

[00:51:49] And who knows, you know, darkness could be used against us too.

[00:51:53] Yeah.

[00:51:54] You know, vision is a thing.

[00:51:56] Night vision is a thing that people can afford and I'm sure terrorists can afford it.

[00:52:01] Yeah.

[00:52:02] Yeah.

[00:52:02] Get that Iran money from Joe.

[00:52:05] Oh my gosh.

[00:52:06] They can afford some headsets.

[00:52:08] They'll be good to go in the dark.

[00:52:11] Well, and, and, and, uh, I've experienced this where you get with a group of people and you train with them over a period of time.

[00:52:20] Okay.

[00:52:22] And you get to know every little thing about them to where you can communicate without even talking.

[00:52:29] Okay.

[00:52:30] And if you think about that, five people.

[00:52:35] Well, trained, well organized.

[00:52:37] I mean, it's going to be a, a, an incredible force.

[00:52:41] It's a terrifying thing on a, on a, on a place like a mall full of people who are not even paying attention to the person three steps ahead of them.

[00:52:52] Yeah.

[00:52:52] Yeah.

[00:52:53] Yeah.

[00:52:54] That's the situation that most, that's the most terrifying situation that we haven't seen in this country.

[00:53:01] And I don't know, you know, maybe one day a book will come out about all the amazing heroes at work that found these groups and took care of them long before they ever made a move.

[00:53:13] But there's just so many here now.

[00:53:16] I know they're here.

[00:53:17] They have to be here.

[00:53:19] You know what I mean?

[00:53:20] After what's happened over the last four years, they have to be here.

[00:53:24] Yeah.

[00:53:25] Who wouldn't send them here?

[00:53:26] If we had an enemy like America and we really felt the way that we, that Iran feels about America and we found out, oh, by the way, their back doors are just open.

[00:53:38] Yeah.

[00:53:38] You know what our military would do?

[00:53:40] Yep.

[00:53:41] We would be filing all kinds of people in that country.

[00:53:46] Yep.

[00:53:47] We'd be infiltrating.

[00:53:49] Yeah.

[00:53:50] Just constantly.

[00:53:51] And then they did too.

[00:53:52] The only thing we're, we're in the reactive mode.

[00:53:56] Yeah.

[00:53:57] So we're going to have to react to whatever they've already established is the plan.

[00:54:03] Yeah.

[00:54:04] But just know that any little chink in that train can disrupt the whole thing.

[00:54:12] And it doesn't have to be another 9-11.

[00:54:16] Right.

[00:54:17] Yeah.

[00:54:18] Yeah.

[00:54:18] Yeah.

[00:54:19] You know, the, the thing that keeps coming back to me, Dave, and it always, it always comes back to this is what people think of the average American across the world.

[00:54:34] Right.

[00:54:34] You know, like I was watching one of my favorite movies is Lincoln with Daniel Day Lewis.

[00:54:40] Oh yeah.

[00:54:41] I almost can't.

[00:54:42] I almost can watch it like ad nauseam.

[00:54:46] Yeah.

[00:54:46] Everybody's in it so damn good.

[00:54:48] Yeah.

[00:54:48] And then the, you know, context and everything that's going on is so good.

[00:54:54] Um, but I don't remember who's talking about it, but one of them is, one of the guys is in his cabinet is talking about how the British think that the Americans are crazy and gruff and rude.

[00:55:08] Yeah.

[00:55:10] And I started thinking like, what do people think Americans are now?

[00:55:16] And I think that we have to change that image.

[00:55:22] Right.

[00:55:23] Back to more dangerous.

[00:55:26] Yes.

[00:55:27] And, and scary.

[00:55:29] Yes.

[00:55:29] And sort of wild west, you know, everybody's carrying a gun and you don't know what the hell an American's gonna do.

[00:55:36] I think that the terrorists look over here and see lazy, overweight.

[00:55:42] Weak.

[00:55:43] Easy targets.

[00:55:44] Weak.

[00:55:44] Yeah.

[00:55:45] Dumb.

[00:55:46] Yep.

[00:55:47] You know, no faith heathens.

[00:55:50] Yep.

[00:55:50] And I think that's sort of the, you know what I mean?

[00:55:53] That's sort of part of it.

[00:55:54] The reason people are flowing in with nefarious ideas and things like that is because they don't perceive the average American as a threat.

[00:56:03] And I really think that we have to get back to the average American being a threat because it also would help with domestic crime.

[00:56:10] Oh yeah.

[00:56:11] The crime is so out of control because the average dude walking down the street, they know if I start punching a woman in the face, the average guy is going to go.

[00:56:19] Yeah.

[00:56:20] Let me get it on.

[00:56:21] Yeah.

[00:56:22] You know what I mean?

[00:56:23] Yeah.

[00:56:23] Yeah.

[00:56:24] Yeah.

[00:56:24] You know what I mean?

[00:56:26] Dude.

[00:56:28] That was only 10, 15 years ago.

[00:56:31] Yeah.

[00:56:32] That was how that went.

[00:56:33] Like, oh, you're just gonna start punching on a girl.

[00:56:36] Some dude is gonna show up and make you pay for that.

[00:56:38] Oh, absolutely.

[00:56:40] Yeah.

[00:56:40] Some guy pulls over his Buick and hops out.

[00:56:44] You better hope he's driving alone.

[00:56:47] Well, I gotta tell you, two times in my lifetime.

[00:56:51] I have chased down shoplifters.

[00:56:54] Yeah.

[00:56:54] And held them for the police.

[00:56:57] Exactly.

[00:56:57] I mean, I pull up.

[00:57:00] I'm like, this guy comes bolting out of Kmart and I'm like, he just stole that.

[00:57:05] And I drove the car around.

[00:57:06] He went into the next parking lot.

[00:57:08] Okay.

[00:57:09] I parked the car.

[00:57:11] Now he's already run the length of Kmart's parking lot.

[00:57:15] So he's tired.

[00:57:16] You know, he's tired out.

[00:57:17] Yeah.

[00:57:17] So when I parked the car and start after him, I'm fresh.

[00:57:21] Yeah.

[00:57:21] Oh, that's smart, man.

[00:57:23] Yeah.

[00:57:23] And I said, look, I can, I can run two, three, four more miles.

[00:57:29] Yeah.

[00:57:29] Yeah.

[00:57:30] That's a good feeling.

[00:57:31] That's why I run so much PBN family.

[00:57:33] Cause I want to know in my head when it matters.

[00:57:35] You know what I mean?

[00:57:37] Yeah.

[00:57:37] It's a good feeling.

[00:57:39] But yeah, that, that it all goes back to all this stuff goes back to that.

[00:57:43] And I think, you know, we could do more at, at the, I don't know, at the police level

[00:57:48] or at the intelligence level, or definitely could do more at the border.

[00:57:51] But I really do think a lot of it's going to come down to what, what the average person

[00:57:56] is willing to do and willing to carry and willing to learn so that you, the world at large can look at

[00:58:03] Americans and say, you know, for all their faults, they're ready.

[00:58:07] If you come to do something great.

[00:58:09] Yeah.

[00:58:09] They all carry guns and they all can shoot them and they don't like terrorists.

[00:58:14] Yeah.

[00:58:14] The other thing too, the world has come become so comfortable with America being fundamentally

[00:58:20] tolerant.

[00:58:21] Yeah.

[00:58:21] I also think the world thinks, well, the Americans will just tolerate anything.

[00:58:25] Yeah.

[00:58:25] You know, you can do, go over there and do whatever the hell you want to do.

[00:58:28] You can cook fish on a, on a, on a shopping cart over a fire and they'll be like, yeah,

[00:58:32] it's culture, you know?

[00:58:34] Yeah.

[00:58:34] So you can eat the pets.

[00:58:36] You can eat these people's pets.

[00:58:38] It's okay.

[00:58:39] Yeah.

[00:58:39] They're very tolerant over there.

[00:58:41] Yeah.

[00:58:41] Those have all created this atmosphere where guys get into their car and go, I'm just

[00:58:46] going to go ram some people to death.

[00:58:48] You know, because I mean, just imagine 1950s, New Orleans, you ram some people with your

[00:58:56] car, not to mention your skin's a little darker than everybody else.

[00:59:01] It's like, it was a different world back then.

[00:59:04] They would strong you up before the cops even got there.

[00:59:07] The cops would be running to save the guy.

[00:59:10] Yeah.

[00:59:10] They'd be like, don't kill him yet.

[00:59:13] You know what I mean?

[00:59:15] Yeah.

[00:59:15] So we got to change that.

[00:59:18] I mean, not, we don't need to become animals, but we, what we've become is just, there's

[00:59:24] no threat there anymore.

[00:59:26] And you can tell, you can tell when you see the enemies sort of creeping up in the periphery,

[00:59:32] the wolves at the, at the woods edge.

[00:59:34] You know what I mean?

[00:59:35] They're looking in at the flock going like, Oh, these are all nice and tender, moist and

[00:59:40] tender little bittles here.

[00:59:42] Yeah.

[00:59:42] So that's a big part of it.

[00:59:44] It all comes down to us, you know, and what we're willing to do, what we're willing to

[00:59:48] teach the next generation to do.

[00:59:51] We've got to get people away from this fear of things that go boom.

[00:59:56] This idea of, of banning firearms in a country.

[01:00:02] Like, can you imagine that there's anybody in the world that's watching what just happened

[01:00:07] over the last few days and still going, you know, if we just got rid of guns in America,

[01:00:12] then the terrorists really have their way with us.

[01:00:15] Yeah.

[01:00:16] Yeah.

[01:00:17] I'm sure Canada, I bet if they put it up for a vote, Canada would want to be the 51st state.

[01:00:23] Yeah.

[01:00:25] They're going to get it.

[01:00:30] They want.

[01:00:31] The UK is going to be, well, you know what the UK is going to be?

[01:00:36] I'll say something crazy.

[01:00:39] The UK is going to go to war with the United States.

[01:00:45] Really?

[01:00:46] Oh yeah.

[01:00:47] Because the British are leaving.

[01:00:50] So what's going to happen is the Muslims are going to take over all facets of government

[01:00:54] and military.

[01:00:56] Ah.

[01:00:56] And then the United States is going to have to go to war with them because they have nuclear

[01:00:59] weapons.

[01:01:01] Wow.

[01:01:02] That's the only thing I can see happening over there.

[01:01:05] I can't see the British having a, a make London great again moment.

[01:01:12] And you know what I mean?

[01:01:14] I don't know.

[01:01:14] It seems like these, uh, Oh, by the way, an update from Romania, their president is not

[01:01:22] stepping down.

[01:01:23] The old guy, the old guy.

[01:01:26] And, and they have not held the elections.

[01:01:29] He suspended everything though.

[01:01:31] The, the, uh, their parliament is trying to, uh, come up with something, but, uh, looks

[01:01:39] like he's on his way to being, you know, dictator.

[01:01:43] Yeah.

[01:01:44] For life.

[01:01:46] Yeah.

[01:01:47] That's sad for the Romanians, man.

[01:01:49] Cause they've had enough of that shit.

[01:01:51] Yeah.

[01:01:52] You know, don't give them a taste of democracy.

[01:01:55] And then some guy comes along, you don't like, so you say, Oh, we'll just snatch that back.

[01:02:00] Yeah.

[01:02:01] I think that, uh, just as you know, you, you say to yourself, how did Churchill and all

[01:02:09] these people come together in world war two, I, you know, it's, it's that thing.

[01:02:17] Do great extra extraordinary times make extraordinary men who do extraordinary men seek extraordinary

[01:02:27] times, you know, which it's like.

[01:02:30] Like the, which came first and chicken or the egg.

[01:02:33] And, and you have to say to yourself, you know, is Trump is the Trump effect worldwide

[01:02:41] because there's more conservatives winning their elections.

[01:02:49] Yeah.

[01:02:50] Now then we're it's like this pendulum that swings, swings back and forth for the whole world.

[01:02:59] Definitely.

[01:03:00] Definitely.

[01:03:00] Some of that.

[01:03:01] I think there, the threat profile has changed significantly.

[01:03:08] So in the early two thousands, it was like, we're fighting in the middle East.

[01:03:14] Yeah.

[01:03:16] Some, some amount of our military is fighting these guys in the middle East.

[01:03:19] And every time I see them, they got like, you know, half shirts on and they're driving

[01:03:24] in pickup trucks with machine guns mounted to them.

[01:03:26] Yeah.

[01:03:27] And they ain't flinging anything even remotely close to my country.

[01:03:32] Right.

[01:03:33] You know what I mean?

[01:03:33] And I think that along with the immigration thing was just getting fired up.

[01:03:38] I think a lot of those nations had a very low threat profile and no need for some dude who's

[01:03:44] conservative to come in and get in the way of their big European party.

[01:03:49] Yeah.

[01:03:50] With their apps and their long vacations and all that.

[01:03:53] And then all of a sudden threat profile changes.

[01:03:56] And I think people go, okay, we better start taking stuff seriously again and get a military

[01:04:02] and, you know, get somebody who's going to make some tough decisions because we got to

[01:04:06] worry about something other than the baguettes now.

[01:04:09] Yeah.

[01:04:09] And I think that's, I think a lot of it has to do with that, you know?

[01:04:14] Yeah.

[01:04:14] But I also think for, for great men to exist, they got to do a little, they got to do a

[01:04:20] little front loading.

[01:04:21] You know what I mean?

[01:04:22] Like you look at an Elon Musk, like he, he had this dedicate a lot of his time to becoming

[01:04:30] the person that he is in order to have the effect he's having.

[01:04:33] Let's just like Donald Trump, you know?

[01:04:35] Yeah.

[01:04:36] Donald Trump basically came to the job with 50 years experience at the highest level of

[01:04:42] deal-making to become who, you know, who will likely be the best deal-making president in

[01:04:48] history.

[01:04:49] Yeah.

[01:04:50] And, you know, you got to have that resume, I think, in times like these.

[01:04:55] Yeah.

[01:04:55] It's almost like the cream rises to the top no matter what.

[01:04:58] The truth is always there.

[01:04:59] The cream rises to the top.

[01:05:01] Yeah.

[01:05:02] Those things are just unstoppable.

[01:05:05] And, you know, with Churchill, it was a lot of the same thing.

[01:05:08] War hero.

[01:05:09] Right?

[01:05:09] That kind of deal.

[01:05:10] Yeah.

[01:05:11] A guy who was willing to speak out.

[01:05:15] Yeah.

[01:05:16] Yeah.

[01:05:18] Hey, so I have a recommendation for anybody that that Yellowstone 1883.

[01:05:28] Oh my gosh.

[01:05:29] Is it good?

[01:05:31] Is it good?

[01:05:32] I'm loving it, huh?

[01:05:34] I am loving it.

[01:05:35] So 1883.

[01:05:36] Civil War is over.

[01:05:38] Yeah.

[01:05:38] Reconstruction has begun.

[01:05:40] I don't know how long reconstruction took.

[01:05:41] That might be over.

[01:05:43] Yeah, but these...

[01:05:44] No, it's not over.

[01:05:45] But these people are headed west.

[01:05:47] Yeah.

[01:05:48] They were in the house.

[01:05:50] Where else are they?

[01:05:51] They were...

[01:05:52] They lived in Kentucky.

[01:05:54] They had a home, a farm, everything.

[01:05:56] He fought in the Civil War.

[01:05:59] Okay.

[01:06:00] Was captured and spent his time in a northern Civil War camp.

[01:06:08] Yeah.

[01:06:08] Okay.

[01:06:09] And now they...

[01:06:11] They sold everything.

[01:06:14] He got the wagon and everything.

[01:06:16] Him and his wife and his two kids.

[01:06:19] His girl is 17 and his boy is five.

[01:06:27] So...

[01:06:28] Cool adventure for a five year old, as long as he doesn't get dysentery.

[01:06:31] You know what I mean?

[01:06:32] That's a cool adventure.

[01:06:34] And there's a lot of prepper stuff in there, too.

[01:06:37] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[01:06:37] If you could pick it out.

[01:06:39] Don't drink the water.

[01:06:40] You gotta boil it first.

[01:06:42] These people are getting sick because they're getting, you know...

[01:06:45] Yeah.

[01:06:47] Waterborne pathogens.

[01:06:49] I mean, it's really good.

[01:06:51] And then you say to yourself, would I do it that way?

[01:06:55] You know, because it's a whole nother world.

[01:06:59] It's great.

[01:07:00] It's a great...

[01:07:00] I've thought about that.

[01:07:02] And you know what?

[01:07:03] Hey, it's probably gonna...

[01:07:04] Somebody's gonna do it.

[01:07:05] I won't do it because it's not gonna be important enough to get done.

[01:07:09] And it would take a lot of money.

[01:07:11] But people would pay to do that.

[01:07:14] Yeah.

[01:07:14] People would pay to take two weeks.

[01:07:16] You know, they would pay the money.

[01:07:19] You get them.

[01:07:21] Maybe they have like a...

[01:07:22] Their own buggy that they rent or buy a buggy and start at your property in Kentucky and walk or horse through some path that still exists.

[01:07:33] You know?

[01:07:34] Yeah.

[01:07:34] They would pack their own supplies, their own thing.

[01:07:36] You know?

[01:07:37] Wear the clothes and do the whole reenactment sort of bit.

[01:07:41] People would pay to do that.

[01:07:42] You know what I mean?

[01:07:43] Just to experience it.

[01:07:44] I'd do it.

[01:07:45] It'd be fun.

[01:07:46] Canvas covered...

[01:07:47] There are actual cattle drives still going on that you can actually sign on and go do.

[01:07:53] Oh, well there you go.

[01:07:54] If you're really into this thing.

[01:07:56] Yeah.

[01:07:56] Yeah, that'd be fun.

[01:07:58] That'd be pretty cool.

[01:07:59] Yeah.

[01:07:59] But it would be cool to do it yourself.

[01:08:03] Yeah.

[01:08:03] You know what I mean?

[01:08:04] Like you show up at this property, they teach you a little bit and then you buy your whatever gear you want to buy, but it's all sort of like, you know, 1880s gear.

[01:08:14] Yeah.

[01:08:15] You know what I mean?

[01:08:15] And then you head out there, hit milestones along the way and see how long your food lasts, how long you can go.

[01:08:22] Yeah.

[01:08:23] Hey, did I tell you this?

[01:08:25] A shot is a shot?

[01:08:27] Yeah, yeah.

[01:08:29] A shot was 25 cents, a shot of whiskey and a bullet, a 45 caliber bullet was worth 25 cents.

[01:08:40] Right, yeah.

[01:08:41] So a cowboy, yeah, a cowboy would pull up, he wouldn't have any money.

[01:08:46] Yeah, I like that.

[01:08:47] But he'd tell the bartender, I'll take a shot and he would trade a bullet for a shot of whiskey.

[01:08:54] And that's why a shot is called a shot.

[01:08:57] That's a dangerous game.

[01:08:58] That, when I first learned that I wondered how many cowboys were rolling with like two rounds of ammunition and just talking a big game.

[01:09:08] Because you know how it goes.

[01:09:09] Yeah.

[01:09:10] Yeah.

[01:09:11] You know, you're gonna start having fun, man.

[01:09:12] You're gonna start putting them back.

[01:09:13] And before you know it, you're like, dang, revolvers only got two cartridges left.

[01:09:18] I better call it a night.

[01:09:20] Yeah.

[01:09:21] Yeah.

[01:09:21] I started thinking about that.

[01:09:22] I could see guys using up all their ammo for a good time.

[01:09:28] But, I don't know man.

[01:09:30] I think we did a pretty good job tonight.

[01:09:31] What do you think, Dave?

[01:09:33] Yeah, I think I covered all the notes that I have.

[01:09:35] So, you know, go back through your stuff.

[01:09:39] Think about what you're carrying EDC and say to yourself, if I'm in this situation, what would I need?

[01:09:48] And, you know, there's different things that you can do.

[01:09:51] We used to call them RAMs, random access measures.

[01:09:56] And they're just things that changed up what you did.

[01:09:59] And like here at the Jones homestead, if we're without power for more than three days, I start carrying everywhere.

[01:10:08] Okay.

[01:10:10] You know, different things that you do to change things up.

[01:10:16] Yeah.

[01:10:17] I like that.

[01:10:19] Yeah.

[01:10:20] And another thing you can center on your drive to work and to school and that type of thing is, where are the places that these things are likely going to happen even if you're not there?

[01:10:32] Right.

[01:10:32] You know what I mean?

[01:10:33] Because you could be near to a place that is a target.

[01:10:38] Yeah.

[01:10:38] And it might just be a good idea to take a different route now to and from.

[01:10:43] You know, just from the sheer possibility.

[01:10:46] Yeah.

[01:10:46] Yeah.

[01:10:47] Something like that happens, that route is going to be dead to you anyway.

[01:10:50] Yeah.

[01:10:50] So at least know the alternate route, you know?

[01:10:53] Yeah.

[01:10:54] But there'll be plenty more of this stuff to come.

[01:10:58] I mean.

[01:10:58] Yeah.

[01:10:58] Yeah.

[01:10:59] I mean, these types of podcasts and us giving you all the day shows and that kind of thing.

[01:11:04] Yeah.

[01:11:05] Because I think this may be the first in a series.

[01:11:08] Yeah.

[01:11:09] Yeah.

[01:11:10] Yeah.

[01:11:10] Hopefully it doesn't become the COVID cast of the 2025 year.

[01:11:15] Oh.

[01:11:15] Hopefully we're not talking about terrorist attacks every Monday night like we did with COVID numbers in 2020.

[01:11:21] Yeah.

[01:11:22] Yeah.

[01:11:23] Yeah.

[01:11:23] I appreciate it, Dave.

[01:11:24] It's an awesome night, man.

[01:11:26] Thanks for coming on.

[01:11:27] No problem.

[01:11:28] I'm glad you could do it on your couch tonight.

[01:11:31] Yep.

[01:11:31] Just really be comfortable.

[01:11:33] Yep.

[01:11:33] Yeah.

[01:11:34] I know you got, you'll be probably.

[01:11:37] Yeah.

[01:11:37] We get over here.

[01:11:39] Yeah.

[01:11:39] I think it's soon time to feed the dogs.

[01:11:42] So.

[01:11:42] Yeah.

[01:11:43] It's time to feed me, I think.

[01:11:45] But all right, PBN family.

[01:11:47] I appreciate it, man.

[01:11:48] It's good to be back.

[01:11:49] I didn't do too bad tonight.

[01:11:50] I thought it'd be hacking and coughing a little more.

[01:11:52] So that's a good sign, but stay tuned.

[01:11:57] And look, a lot of people are going to be talking about this stuff.

[01:12:01] Yeah.

[01:12:02] I tell you to share this stuff with everybody because I want it to be popular and I want all the hosts to get the love for what they do.

[01:12:08] Yes.

[01:12:08] But I also tell you to share with everybody because what Dave and I just gave you is what everybody wants to know.

[01:12:15] What the hell is going on?

[01:12:16] What the hell am I supposed to do about it?

[01:12:18] You know?

[01:12:19] So.

[01:12:20] Share it around.

[01:12:21] All right.

[01:12:22] We will talk to you guys soon.

[01:12:25] Let me run an ad real quick for our wonderful sponsors.

[01:12:28] Let's see.

[01:12:28] Actually, no, I think we're going to run a disaster coffee ad.

[01:12:31] How about that?

[01:12:32] Excellent.

[01:12:32] Get your hands on the good stuff.

[01:12:34] Yeah.

[01:12:34] All right, Dave Jones.

[01:12:35] I appreciate you, man.

[01:12:37] Take care.

[01:12:37] See ya.

[01:12:43] This is Phil Ravely, head maniac from Matter of Facts Podcast and wife annoyance specialist from Raising Values.

[01:12:48] Whatever your preferred caffeination, be it coffee or tea, we have you covered.

[01:12:52] Everything from sacks of bunker beans to favorites like dark humor to newcomers like Uncle Randy's front porch can be found at Disaster Coffee,

[01:12:59] alongside all of our tea offerings, EMP and Gray Man.

[01:13:02] Whether you're looking for that daily brew to get started or that evening sip on the porch, come check out Disaster Coffee.

[01:13:08] We'll be right back.