TACTICAL TUESDAY: Irregular Warfare Lessons/Interrogation from TGA

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If you have any questions or for gunsmithing or anything like that, weaponry questions, anything of the nature, feel free to email me at Gunmetal armorygmail dot com. This week we're going to talk about irregular warfare lessons from World War Two. Clan Dustin warfare lessons from World War Two. We're going to concentrate on some of the train that the spies were put through. As you guys know, if you listen to my shows, you'll know that that is one of my It's it's to me. It's a time period, it's very very interesting, So I tend to look into it, study it, and you know, really see what these people and how these people were trained and what they went through. So we're going to be talking about those various different lessons that the os S and the se the French Resistance, you know, all those different resistance groups that were behind enemy lines, what they were taught during World War Two. We're going to look at those lessons, things that they learned, et cetera. Tonight we're going to talk about interrogation and what happens if the Nazi Gestapo or secret police, if you will, gets a hold of you. So one other thing too. We also have a new segment that is called, I believe they're calling it Marching Orders. I believe it's basically the voice of we the people. This is going to become a weekly thing, and I believe it's because comms has always been lacking on the side of the patriots. Unfortunately, we can't ride through town and scream our messages anymore. You know, the British are coming. It doesn't work that way anymore. So it's getting harder and harder for our side to be heard at any of the larger virtual town squares, if you will. The town square. The soapbox just doesn't seem to really be an option anymore unless you're on somewhere like gab Or. I don't know if Parlor's ever coming back, but that is another possibility. But gab seems to be the town square at the moment for everyone, not just conservatives, not just patriots, much for everybody. So with that in mind, we give you the marching orders. Here are the marching orders for today, January twenty eighth, twenty twenty one. These are the marching orders for our federal government, direct from the consenting governed. We the people, demand that the federal government protect and adhere to the Bill of Rights. Email and here are your marching orders. As a. Governed, consenting civilian. Email your congressman and ask them what the people should do when they see their Bill of Rights being dissolved before their very eyes. Email them and ask them what do we do? What do I do? And if they don't answer, keep going, Just keep going. Everybody that's listening to this, email your congressman. If you don't know how, email me. I will send it to you. I will find it and I will send it to you. Okay, don't matter what state you're in. All right? Moving on? That was the marching orders. Moving on, Let's talk about today's product pick of the week. Now, I just recently did a video on YouTube. Haven't done one in a long time, but I did a video on YouTube about comparing, basically comparing the JTS M twelve AK twelve gage shotgun AK shotgun to the Russian Mobot Zapter twelve. Now, admittedly, the jts is made in the Gianchi factory in China. Like it or not, agree with them or not, the Chinese do know their way around making firearms. And I'm not gonna call something a piece of crap just because I don't like where it came from, Okay, So I wanted to do an honest assessment of it. Now, I have had this thing out in the field before, but that video got let's just say it got needed, it got it got lost, so I'm gonna have to do it again. However, I wanted to compare the JTS and the molat vapper in a controlled environment, so I was able to do that, which was cool. It's a really good video, guys, get a chance head to the Gunbell Armor YouTube channel check it out. But for now, I'm going to review the Mark twelve AK or the M twelve AK j ts AK shot gun for the moment. Here. Now, I can tell you some things that I mean, you'll have to watch a video, but I can tell you that there is a stark price difference between the two with the let's see the JTS. Let's I mean hack, why not? Why not? Let's get an absolutely accurate viewpoint on this right now, Let's go to gunbroker dot com. Let's see what it says on Gunbroker. Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm not a big fan of Gunbroger either, but you know, they're kind of the one of the only games in town at the moment, so we'll just deal with them for the time being. All Right, let's type it in here, JTS M twelve AK. Bam, what do we got Okay, so by it now like four ninety nine, five ninety nine, uh, five point thirty four with seventeen bids six forty nine. Now, keep in mind there's a whole bunch to different versions of this gun, so you're probably gonna see a slight price difference, but the general price I will see will be anywhere between four eighty to five five point fifty somewhere in there for the very basic model. Now, keeping that in mind, let's do a web search for Molot Vepper twelve. Let's see what we come up with a handguard retainer and an eight round magazine. Holy crap, is that an actual Molot eight round magazine? Eighty four dollars for one magazine? Are they mad at you? Eighty dollars for one magazine? Oh? Jeez? Okay, so let's move into the guns. Okay, here we go. Here we Govepper twelve fine group or feme. I don't know how they pronounce that. Twelve gage, VPR twelve VPR DASH, twelve dash eighty one folding stock, two mags, brand new, two thousand, one hundred and ninety nine dollars. Here's another one. That one is twenty five hundred dollars. Here's another one. Okay, that's a little bit. That's a little bit closer, but this one does not have a folding stock, and it is twelve hundred and twenty five dollars. Here is one that is the fixed stock version. Looks very similar to the JTS, I mean, almost identical, and it is twenty five hundred dollars. So you guys kind of see what I'm getting at here. I hope the stark price difference between the two there is a there is a you know, a relatively stark difference in price between the two, and the JTS is currently available online. You can buy these right now. Let's see. Let's see what the price difference is in the magazines. We saw an eight round mag for the Molot for eighty dollars. Let's click on m twelve AK ten round mag on the JGS website, which is Jtsgroup dot us. Let's see Juliet Tango Sierra JTS Group. All right, let's see what these ten round mags are gonna cost me two more rounds than the other one. Click on buy see what it costs. I hope everyone out there is doing good tonight. You know, it's it's been a crazy, crazy week. Okay, all right, M twelve AK mag thirty dollars and ninety nine cents for a ten round mag. So I can get two, almost three of these ten round bags for the price of one Molot eight round bag. Now, don't get me wrong, Okay, I'm not saying that the Molot's a bad gun. I'm just saying that it's extremely expensive and that you can have something pretty similar. I mean, you guys just have to watch my review, Okay, And and you know, for not even half the price. It makes sense to me. It makes sense to me, especially if you're trying to build a preper armory. But moving on, I've had a decent amount of experience now with the jts M twelve AK and I can honestly say that it is one of the nicer semi automatic shotguns I have handled and shot. Okay, Now, like any twelve gage shotgun, it does have kick. Man, I mean, we're not we're not going to play around about that. We all know that twelve gage shotguns have a lot of kick to them. But there are very few items that are not Class three that can you know, they can lay down as much firepower as a shotgun with buckshot AMMO in it. Okay. There are very few firearms that can send a slug as large as a twelve gage shotgun for the price that it can send it. Okay, So there's a lot of things to consider. Plus, shotguns are one of the best survival items to have. Now, some people may argue, you know, a pump shotgun is better, or you know a semi automatic shotgun is better. This one happens to be semi automatic, and I happen to love that, Okay, But I have nothing against the pump action shotgun either. Mossburg five ninety reven ten eight seventy, they're both amazing shotguns. But if you want to get into the semi automatic shotgun game, this thing for around five hundred dollars and thirty one dollars a mag for ten round bags. You really would have a hard time. I'm beating that, okay, trust me. Now take a look if you want to pick one of these up. If you're not put off, you know, by anything else, you know, if you want to just get a decent shotgun you can put into your armory, this one is a decent shotgun that you can put into your armory. Okay for a really good deal, all right, Jtsgroup dot Us Okay again, I know some people may have a problem with where it comes from. I personally do not care. I also have a Chinese Mac ninety AKA you know I like it. Well, actually, no, I think that one. Yeah, that one fell off my boat when I was fishing. God darn it. I hate it when that happens. Anyways, I used to have one. Yeah, it's at the bottom of awake. It's somewhere out there. AnyWho, moving on, So that is my product pick of the week. If you guys want to check that thing out now. Granted I know I've reviewed it before, but it does bear repeating. If you guys to pick the one of these up, do it now, do it while you can, okay. Shotgun ammo is very difficult to find. Well, that's very difficult. It's still out there, okay. But keep in mind that this thing has four gas settings on it. One is of course, you know, for single shot, but the other three are two to be able to shoot different types of shotgun ammo. So no matter what you find on the shelf, you should be able to run it in this gun. Okay. So keep that in mind. Moving on, I was thinking about something today that kind of got me got my brain working. Okay, now you know, you guys know I'm a gunsmith. You guys know I like to build firearms, and this may be something that I'm going to end up building. Okay, let's talk about the RpK. Okay, for those of you guys that don't know what an RpK is, most everyone out there knows when an AC forty seven is or an AK seventy four is. You can you can pretty much look at it and know what it is. Okay. The RpK is very very similar to the AK forty seven in looks. Okay. When I showed them to the Mistress of Metal, she was like, oh, you know, okay, they look very similar. So let's talk about the RpK. What what is an RpK. Well, the fans of the AK forty seven and seventy four will know that the RpK or the RpK seventy four is the like the premiere. Basically, it's the you know, one of the main light machine guns of Russia and the Russian satellite states. Okay, but they weigh about thirteen pounds give or take, okay, Whereas you know, the AK is going to be somewhere in the seven and a half to eight and a half pound range, give or take. Now, the RpK it comes in five four five, of course, the RpK seventy four or the newer model like the RpK two hundred, They also come in seven sixty two, by thirty nine. There's a couple of variants of that, and there's even an export version, which I don't know if they're ever going to come in. There's an export version of the RpK in five five six. Now, I mean, I could honestly care less, you know about the five five to six thing. I don't buy com block firearms to run an American caliber in them. But I digress. Now, they have some features that are different than the AK seventy four, Okay, AK forty seven, d AK seventy four. The RpK, like I said, it's thirteen pounds okay, But the RpK also has a twenty to twenty three inch heavy barrel on it. Okay, heavy barrel okay, like an M sixty or something of that nature, like a you know, like a SR twenty five. You know, it's got the heavier barrel on it. It's not a normal sized car being barrel plus you know, the normal size carbing barrel. You know. It can it can range into the you know, the ten inch eleven and a half inch. You can be fourteen and a half, it can be sixteen. It just depends. But these again are anywhere from twenty inch to twenty three inch. All right. They've got an attached bipod. The RpK also has an eight hundred meter windage and elevation adjustable rear sight. That's something else you're not going to see on every AK. You're not going to see the winded adjustable rear sight. You will see elevation. Everybody sees elevation on the AK site. That's what that little clicker slider thing he is there. The little slider you can do and the little numbers of the corresponding not just that is your elevation, okay, or your range if you will to. It elevates the rear site for different ranges, okay. The front site is adjustable left to right if you have the right tool. It's also adjustable for elevation as well. Again, if you have the right tool, excuse me, but you know you have to have the correct tools and things like that. Okay, and that's a whole other show on how to adjust that. Anyways, they have the winded and elevation adjustable rear sight on the RpK. Some have folding rear stocks for paratroopers. And also they generally tend to run them with forty five round magazines and sixty round magazines, not sixty round drums. The RpK in seventy sixty by thirty nine they would run ninety round or seventy five round drums. But when they switched over to the RpK seventy four and the RpK two hundred, when they switched over to the five four five, they kind of went away from that and they stuck with thirty round, forty five round, and even sixty round magazines. Some of those sixty round magazines you've heard of a double stack mag okay, double stack magazines. Some of those sixty round magazines are quadruple stacked magazines. They're quad stacked, which is super cool. If you want to see how that is done, do a web search for the blueprints, or do a web search for the Surefire sixty round magazine, and you will see that it's a lot thicker than a normal AR fifteen magazine that you know, Surefire the flashlight company, they make them for air fifteens, the triple stacked or quadruple stack magazines sixty round or a hundred round, So if you want to see how it's done, you can look that up. Moving on, the RPKs also have specialized flash hiders, lighter polymer furniture on you know the RpK seventy four, and you know the two hundred and two or three, so on and so forth, and they tend to have the super beefy one point five millimeter receivers instead of the one millimeter receiver which is on most every AK. Now, like we were saying, the average AK weighs between seven and a half seven eight eight and a half pounds. Okay, However, as we said earlier, the RpK weighs a little over thirteen pounds. That is no joke. This additional weight, of course comes from the bipod, the thicker receiver, the larger mags, the heavier, longer, thicker barrel, and so on and so forth. Okay, my thought was this, Okay, They took the colashon of Cough platform. If I remember correctly, Klashing Cough actually did this himself, took the Kalasha Cough platform, the AKM, and they upgraded it with again the longer barrel, the thicker barrel, the bipod, the drum mags, the thicker receiver, all those things, the rear sight. They upgraded the heck out of it. Okay, and they made themselves what is essentially a squad automatic weapon, you know, something like the M two forty nine saw, but not built fed. Okay, Now you know saws can use max, but that's neither here nor there. They took the exact same manual of arms meeting the same controls, the same cleaning methods, the same handling methods, and they made a squad automatic weapon out of basically the exact same platform with a couple of small tweaks. So I submit to you a question and you guys can email me your opinions on this. What if you were to take the AR fifteen platform and instead of having a sixteen inch barrel on it, you put a twenty to twenty three inch heavy profile barrel on it. You put a short handguard on it right, you put the windage and elevation adjustable rear sight on it along with a front site. You could go with an apost front site, or depending on the type of handguard you might put on it, you could you could do the flip up front and rear. Okay. You could attach a bipod via molly not Molly m lock. You could attach a bipod via m lock, okay, or a clamp. You can clamp one on, you know, there's that option. You could attach all sorts of different flash hiders, okay. You can also instead of getting the normal AR fifteen receiver, you could get a forged, beefed up AR fifteen illuminum, you know, the aluminum receiver, a forged beefed up version of it. Right. You could get the Law fold the Law tactical folding rear stock for the lower So in essence, you could build an RpK or an a r PK. Right, you could build a a something akin to the RpK outam an AR fifteen. Basically, you can get the magpole forty round magazine and get the five round the five round floor plate, so it would be forty five rounds just like the RpK. You could get the Surefire sixty round magazines from the AR fifteen, just like the RpK seventy four RpK seventy four. Sorry, you could do all of these things to basically make an ARPK right. You could also get the binary trigger from Foss Tech or Franklin Armory or whoever, and you would have a higher level of firepower from your ARPK. So I submit that to you for your thoughts to see what everyone thinks of this. Now, some people may find this insane. Some people may think this is a good idea. Some people may think, you know, that's just a DMR, that's a designated marksman's rifle with a couple of changes. Sure, sure it is, why not, you know, But depending on the way you make it, it could also be a lot of other things too. Right, So what if you were to just make the upper into this right and the lower remains a normal AR fifteam. If you need a squad a squad suppression tool, if you need a squad automatic rifle, you pop on this upper with your longer, heavier barrel. You're a different sighting system, your bipod and so on, and you've got a way to really have some fun in a three gun match or whatever. Just a thought, guys, just a thought. You know. You look at this doctrine and you think, okay, what if we were to take ours and do that now? I think the only reason the military hasn't done this yet, my personal opinion, the only reason the military hasn't done this yet is because they have things like the M two forty Bravo, the M two forty nine squad automatic weapon, or the M twenty seven Iar. They already have these firearms, so they look at it and go, well, we don't really need that, so we're not going to bother to build it. You know. 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All right, y'all, let's talk about World War two irregular warfare lessons. All right, So during World War Two there were multiple clandestine agencies that operated behind enemy lines. All right, excuse me one sex here. There were multiple clandestine agencies that operated behind enemy lines, as there always have been and as there always will be. They operated behind enemy lines in the Axis countries, and of course I'm sure there were some that operated behind enemy lines in the Allied countries. Now, they were all based, these clandestine agencies that are famous were all based in the Allied countries. Of course. They had the OSS and the USA. They had the SOE in the UK and Canada. There were OSS teams in Canada though too. To be clear, of course, these agencies they taught multiple people, men and women, to fight behind enemy lines. They had multiple curriculums on irregular warfare. Explosives, ambushes, stealing vehicles, lock picking, surreptitious entry, burglary, trapping, animals and humans, firearms, silent weaponry, clandestine communications, camouflage, concealment, hand to hand combat informants, police methods and countermeasures, propaganda, code ciphers, and of course my favorite edge tools like the famous Fabrine Sykes dagger or Oss dagger. Right, we've talked about this, now, there was a lot more that they were instructed in, and some of that is of course lost to history, but some of it we probably shouldn't talk about on here right now. If we were hanging out in person, of course, we could talk about whatever we want, but you know, there are just certain things that we probably shouldn't put on the airwaves. That being said, let's talk about irregular warfare and clandestine training that the individual soldier was taught, or you know, the underground group was taught. Okay, during World War Two, they were taught that an underground group should also should number no more than three to eight individuals. Now, that may differ depending on how you want to build up a different type of group. It depends on how that type of group might operate, so on and so forth. And we did talk about these clandestine groups and how they would expand. Remember a couple of shows ago we talked about. You have a group of four individuals or three individuals. One guy in that group forms another group of three individuals, and then one guy from that group, Group B, forms another group of three individuals, which is group C. And then group C one guy in that group forms another group of however many individuals, that's group D, and on and on it goes. Okay, it doesn't have to be three individuals. It could be eight, it could be ten. But they were instructed to have their underground group their resistance not number anymore than three to eight individuals. Why because three to eight individuals is a lot harder to track than five thousand individuals. Right, So something to keep in mind. You know, surreptitious work requires very few people. Okay, now to do the actual work. Now, surreptitious work nowadays, I'm assuming requires a lot more. You know, you hear about let's say Special Forces. You know, I'm not going to say anyse to the group, but those guys have intel teams, they have boots on the ground giving them, you know, on site intel. They've got analysts, they've got map guys, they've got weapons sergeants, they've got transport teams. They've I mean, it just goes on and on and on, right, and all that's to make sure that they succeed in their goal. Okay, but back in World War Two, you didn't need a lot of people to sabotage any access power asset. Okay. They would go after things like water treatment plants or power plants, or enemy supply lines or I don't know, uh, troop transport, things like that, you know, back in World War Two. And even back then, they had anti material weaponry, and of course, you know, anti material weaponry means it was weaponry just for taking out material, you know, material out radars, trucks, cars, you know, whatever whatever. Right, And of course all weaponry basically at its at its base level is anti personnel. So of course they had anti personal weapons because they're all anti personnel. Moving on, let's talk about irregular warfare and interrogation. Okay, if these covert teams, if these irregular warfare teams they're three the underground group, the three to eight individuals that they are captured by the Nazi Gestapo. Okay, let's look at this. If they were captured by the Nazi Gestapo, what would they do? How would they handle this, okayep in mind, each of these people, the teams, every group that operates in this manner, they always had a plan for an emergency. Okay, what do I mean by an emergency? Well, an emergency would be things like the Nazi Gestapo picking up one of the underground team members. Okay, So if you got a group of three guys and one of them doesn't come to the meeting and never shows up, you got problems. Okay. Or even a team of eight guys and now you've got seven one guy never showed up. We got problems. We got big, big problems. Right. Another emergency the Nazi Gestapo receiving a parachutist that was sent to help that team. Okay, the Nazi Gestapo receiving an air drop meant for the team of the resistance fighters. Okay, what are they going to do in a case like that? Can they get that you know, if the person's in custody? Can they get that person out of custody? Have they thought it through? Can that person that is in custody? Can they hold out long enough for their team leader to gather the info they need to get their friend out of custody? Do they have the weaponry and the ammunition they need to get that person out of custody. Is that person going to survive their captivity? And if they don't survive, how long does the rest of that group have before the Gestapo starts rounding them up as well? Right, these are emergencies, they're just thoughts because frankly, any warrior knows and understands that that type of interrogation, the type that are used by non Geneva Convention countries, you know, other groups. They know that it's going to hurt. Okay, they know it's gonna hurt a lot, and that they can only hold out for so long. They even have protocols for how long, what INFOTO give, how much INFOTO give, what to give when it begins to hurt too much? And so on. So these groups had to have a plan for an emergency. They even also have their l pills, and if you don't know what those are, look it up. All right, So let's talk about interrogation when these things would happen. So the general knowledge of the interrogation stuff, it can be divided into three classes, Okay, three types of interrogation. One type of interrogation is going to be done by local police. Okay, local police officers. I guess. If to give you an idea of what local police might mean, you know, like if you live in I don't know, let's say Phoenix, Arizona. You know, the local police would obviously be the Phoenix Police. Okay, generally on account of infringement of minor regulations. That is, when you're going to be contacted by the local police. If you do something stupid, you know, jaywalking, speeding, whatever, you know, they're gonna they're gonna talk to you. If you do something minor, Okay, it is usually during World War Two. Usually they would confine the local police questioning to four simple questions, what are you doing, what papers do you have, where do you come from? And the big one, who are you? So they would train their guys in the OSS and the s O. They would train them to basically immediately after landing from parachuting or however they got there, you know, submarine carrier pigeon whatever, you know, really strong curry pigeon, but whatever, they should be prepared to answer those questions and with actual accuracy. You have to be able to answer them plausibly. Okay, that wasn't They trained their guys to know, Okay, they also trained them to be able to answer, of course, the who are you? You know, how did you get here? You know, like where do you come from? Right? How did you get here? Where did you come from? Where are you going? That's another big one, where are you going? Heck, they still ask that, now, where'd you come from? Where are you going? Can I see your license and registration? Go? Or back? Then? Where are your papers? Right? So another question that they would ask that they would train their guys to know how to answer right away, who is and where is the last person you spoke to? Who you know personally? Who is and where is the last person you spoke to that you know personal? Right? And they would ask and they were They would train their guys to know details of the locality. So you know, if you live in let's say, I don't know Tyler, Texas, you might know that there is a Walgreens on a specific street. Or if you live in Phoenix, Arizona, you know, or Glendale, Arizona, you might know that there's a Fries food you know, food store on a certain street. Right, So you're going to know that locality if you live there. Even if they don't recognize you, You're still going to know that area, all right, and you needed to be prepared to answer those questions. That's what they train their guys to do, all right, moving on, they would train them that basically if they were able to if they were able to satisfy the police with those questions, you know, if they were able to give satisfactory answers, they would generally be released, you know, the agent would generally be released. If there was any suspicious information, however, they would generally make them you know, they would generally interrogate them further, okay, And that further interrogation would be done by what they would sometimes call specialist police. Okay, in our day and age, specialist police. I'm sure you can probably figure out who these people might be, right, any of those alphabet agencies, any of those three letter people, you know, two letter or four letter who knows, right, But I'm sure we can all figure out who the specialist police would be in our day and age. So what that would look like would be to find out whether a person is a suspect or not, you know, And that would happen because they the agent that landed there or got there somehow they made the local police suspicious, all right, and that was they made them suspicious during their preliminary interrogation. They will need to they would have needed to satisfy the police that their story and their papers were actually real. Right. They know where they're coming from, they know who they are, they know where they've been, they know the locality, so on and so forth. Right, But the Specialist police, they're going to have to go through it again with them. The interrogation is going to be the same thing over again. Okay, all of the things that they say, the entire story is going to be checked by the specialist police. They're going to check every single thing that agent says. Right. They also say that attempts may be made to catch him in a lie by producing facts that he thinks the Gestapo doesn't know about, all right, So that's something to consider. Now. If he's still if the agent or agents still can't satisfy the Specialist police, they bring in or they would bring him the Gestapo, the specialists of the specialists, right, the really messed up guys. They're bringing those guys or to quote a linked group. This would be after the arrest. This would be for an there's someone that's seriously suspected of being a spy or an agent or whatever. Okay, basically it's because they did not satisfy the local police and they did not satisfy the specialist police with their story. All Right, that's when the Gestapo comes in. All Right, the previous interrogations, they're going to start to ramp up, and they're going to go from local police with questions, to specialist police with harder questions and louder questions and maybe a little roughing up to the Gestapo where all sorts of fun things can happen. The Gestapo interrogations can last from twenty four hours to many months. They say methods. Methods are vast. There's tons of different ways that they can try to get you to talk or the agent, whether you're you're not for an agent. The methods they would use to get the agents in World War two to talk, there were lots of them, but what they wanted was one specific thing back then, and that was to extract a confession. They had no rules. They were all in, nothing was barred, everything was on the table. It's und familiar. So let's talk about interrogation methods. We still got a little while here before the interrogation, exhaustive inquiries will be made about the agent's life and their activities. Why because they're trying to collect as much evidence as possible before the actual interrogation begins. Hence all of the where are you, where do you come from? What kind of papers do you have? What are you doing here? Where are you going? Who is the last person you spoke to? Who do you know? Do you know anything about the city? So on and so forth. There were also two types of arrests, and you will see a very similar thing happen currently. There is the sudden and violent arrest at the midnight, at midnight or you know, in the wee hours in the morning. You know, when people are at their groggiest, you know, generally between two and four a m. That is when most sudden and violent arrests happen because most people are asleep at that point, and of course, you know, the human body is wanting to rest at that point. That is why that happens. And to take you way, way, way, way way back, clandestine groups have always operated in those hours of the night, you know, generally between twelve and four. But there were certain groups that would only operate between two and four, So something to keep in mind. That was one type of arrest, the sudden and violent one in the middle of the night. Then there's the other type of arrest, which may also sound familiar to some of you. I really hope it doesn't, but some of you may sound familiar. It is a sudden but polite arrest on the pretext of some minor inquiry. You know, can you come down and clear up these parking tickets? Can you come down here and tell me about this permit? Yeah, we just need you to sign this piece of paper, no big deal. Basically, once they got you down there, it ends up being indefinite detention. And what this does is it prevents the agent from warning his associates, right, so that can happen. Those are two different types of arrests that they would look out for. Something else they would do is a extremely exhaustive house search from where they're where the agent was, and a extremely exhaustive search of the agent of their person. Right. The way that they're treated when they're detained is all part of it. Right, the interrogation plan, things like bad food and good food alternately, right, solitary confinement or a lot of freedom. You may get. They may get promised visits from family or friends. Let's see alternating comfort and discomfort. Like they may have a pillow with a blanket and then they'll have nothing. They may have clothing and then they'll have nothing. All this stuff is to basically break them around, okay, before they actually get questioned. This is what they're trying to do that agent. All right, during the actual interrogation, here's some of the techniques that they not to GESTOPA would use. They would have the prisoner by then they're a prisoner. They'd have them prison You're facing a really bright light. I'm sure you guys have seen that in lots and lots of movies. They wouldn't be able to see their interrogator very well. The prisoner or the agent may have their back to the interrogator with their arms over their head or maybe not, maybe their arms should behind their back or whatever. The prisoner or the agent would be seated in an basically in an uncomfortable chair, which that's something they still use to this day, and same with the light that's still used to this day. They're not allowed to eat or smoke, or drink or any of these things that most people would want to do. However, and this is something still seen to this day. Their interrogator would do all these things. Drink right in front of them, the cigarette. Oh you a cigarette, and now I can't give you one. Sorry, you want to drink, Just tell me where you were. I'll give you a bottle of water. I don't care. Tell me where you were, you know, so on and so forth. Right now. They also say that an interrogation of a single agent or a prisoner may continue indefinitely. And the reason why it just keeps going, you know, and they'll keep switching out interrogators. The reason why it keeps going is so that that agent becomes exhausted and confused all part of it. They don't even have to lay a hand on them if they can keep them exhausted. All right, Like I was just saying, the interrogation may be done by two or more people acting simultaneously, all right. Usually they're going to go right after one, after the oven. You know, there is not going to be a break in between. So this next part they talk about the types of interrogators, and this comes back to the good cop bad cop you know game theory. We all know about this stuff by now. Usually you're gonna have the initial interrogator, which is going to be the you know, the jerk, the bad cop, you know, the bully, and this guy is going to try to make that agent scared or mad or whatever. And this first interrogator is going to tell them all about the mean thing that the GESTOPO can do, can do to them, you know, the secret police can do. They're gonna tell them all about these mean things they can do. Right, They're gonna threaten them, they're gonna throw things, they're gonna break things, so on and so forth. Then you've got the second interrogator type. This guy is going to or girl is going to. They're going to ask them specific questions, and that's they can trick them up. Okay, they're gonna ask specific questions, and if they don't get the answers they want, they may they may beat up that prisoner a little bit. They may beat up that agent a little bit. Okay, it's all part of it. It's all part of it. Okay. Then you've got the third type of interrogator, the good cop. Right, they're nice, they offer them food, you know, something to drink. Cigarettes, This day age. Maybe it's a vape, who knows right? This person sometimes would even be a woman. The third interrogator would come in and do the motherly thing, taking care of them, bandaging their wounds, telling them they're sorry for the other guys that were so rough with them and yelled at them, beat them up. I'm so sorry. Sorry. Okay. They will generally try to coax that agent or that prisoner into not thinking clearly. Oh, I can trust this person. It's a game of trust. Okay. This type of interrogator, they say the training, is generally going to be the most dangerous type. May not seem like it, but they are the most dangerous type of interrogator. Next, we're going to get into the tricks of questioning. How do they try to trick you. We've got a few minutes left, so I'm going to get through these as fast as i can, and then next week we'll get into countermeasures before interrogation. During interrogation, what can we do? What would a World War two agent do during question? Me? Right, if we were in World War two? What could we do? So let's talk about the tricks of questioning by the lazy Gestapo. A long silence in which the interrogator appears to forget the prisoner. This is intended to make the prisoner start talking. You know, they're gone, so they can talk right. Another way, the guard or the interrogator rather will tell the prisoner or the agent not to say anything when they asked them the questions. They'll say, don't answer yet, just think about it, try to remember what happened properly, and then tell us the truth. Just don't say anything yet. Let me ask my question, and then tell me the truth after you've thought about it. You said you were going to the movies, right, No, I said I saw movie. Okay, Okay, you saw a movie. Okay, So we established that you were on the street, and we established that you were going to see a movie at the movie theater. No I said, I saw a movie at the movie theater. Okay, right, right right, you saw a movie at the movie theater. You saw one hundred and one Dalnations. Okay, all right, So we've established that you were on the street and you were gonna go see a movie that night. Right, you're gonna go see a movie, right? No I said I went and saw a movie. No, I was going to go see a movie. I said, I saw a movie. Oh, I thought you said you were going to see a movie. You were gonna go see that one hundred one dalnationis movie? Right? No I said, I already saw that movie. Oh, my bad, my bad. I must have heard you wrong. Okay, okay, so we've established that you went and you saw that movie during the day. No I said, I went and saw that movie at night. You see how it works. They just keep asking that same question in different ways and twisting those little tiny facts. Right. Interesting, isn't it? So back to what we were talking about. They would tell them not to answer to just think about it and try to remember what happened and then tell them the truth. Interesting. They would continually refer back to the same question with a different method of approach. Continually refer back to the same question with a different method of approach. They would reconstruct reconstruction of an offense, exaggerating the agents share in it. Right, So, oh, you were speeding in your vehicle. You're nineteen forty one Ford, you were speeding and you hit someone. No I was speeding. Okay, you were speeding, but you were going, you know, twenty miles an hour of the speed limit. No, I was going five miles an hour with speed limit. No, I'm pretty sure you were going twenty miles an hour with speed limit. And then you hit someone or you almost hit someone, didn't you, Right, No, I didn't say that. I'm pretty sure you said you almost hit someone. Don't answer. Just think about it and try to remember what happened, and then tell us the truth. Right, think about it. Next thing they would do reconstruction of events by the interrogator, who gives half the circumstances in great detail. Later, the prisoner is ordered to repeat what he was told. So, you went and saw a movie, right, Yes, I went and saw a movie. You went and saw a hundred and one Dalmatians. Right right. I went and saw one hundred and one Dalmatians. And you went and saw that during the day, right right, I thought. No, no, I went and saw at night. No, you went and saw it during the day. Right. No, No, I went and saw it at night. No no, No, you told me you went and saw it during the day. Right. So, later the prisoner is ordered to repeat what he's been told. If he was in fact present when the events took place, he may easily include details which were not given by the interrogator. For example, you went and saw a movie that night, and you went and saw one hundred and one Damnations. Yes, I went and saw that movie that night with my friend Bob. We saw one hundred and one Dalmatians. Right after we went and got dinner at Pizza Hut. Whoa wait a minute here, hold on, we got more details going on? Oh no, I didn't say any more details. Yeah you did. You said you went with your friend Bob, and you said you had pizza. Right. So, the next thing suggesting that prisoners have been let down by their friends or they are protecting someone. You guys probably seen this in movies a lot. Who are you protecting? Who are you hiding? What are you hiding? Right? Your friends are not coming to get you, forget about it, right, you guys have heard all this. The next thing showing a prisoner a confession signed by their friend. You know. During World War Two, the Gestapo sweep up a whole bunch of agents at the same time, all in the same resistance group, and they might have their you know, colleagues sign a confession, or they would sign a fake confession saying it was from one of their colleagues. It doesn't matter. They're they're confined, they've been in there for days. How do they know they didn't sweep up Bob right, you know? Or maybe they swept up Corolla Deville from one hundred and one dilations, Just kidding. Okay, Next thing, firing squad could be used as a bluff. They might make threats to that person's family. They might use other things to soften up or break the prisoner's will power, so on and so forth. Okay, And one of the last things that they might do, they might give the prisoner a confession to sign after days and days and days of interrogation, so they don't even know what they're signing at that point. They're so exhausted, they have no idea what they're signing. They don't know what they're saying. This is a common method that they used to use in World War Two. And I say common method. Yes, it's a common method. AnyWho. That's pretty much about it. That's all I can do for today, guys. Next week we are going to continue to talk about the police methods of World War two, the countermeasures that can be used. Like I said, we will talk about what to do before interrogation. During interrogation, we will talk about possibly, you know, the agents during World War Two, that we're behind enemy lines, how they built their little networks, so on and so forth. Okay, so we will come back to all that next week. We will talk more about irregular warfare and clandestine warfare. Join us next time we will talk more about all of this good stuff. Thank you everyone, Thank you for being with us tonight. I hope you guys enjoyed the show. Join us next time as we travel deeper inside the clandestine Warfare room of the gun Metal Armory. Good night everybody and God. Bless Thank you for joining us. We'll see you next time on the gun Metal Armory. Thank you for listening to the Prepper Broadcasting Network, where we promote self reliance and independence. Tune in tomorrow for another great show, and visit us at prepperbroadcasting dot com