The Rising Republic: Open Borders Drones in the Sky and Deniability

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[00:01:09] else because I almost don't want to believe that I'm seeing him over here on the west side.

[00:01:14] My mind has been going everywhere because I'm like, are they, you know, I might be far out and

[00:01:18] more far out in left field than you are because my mind is so open to the paranormal and things like

[00:01:23] that. I think there's been some leaks and I don't know how true it is. We can get in there a little

[00:01:30] bit later. My brother though, because you said you think you might have saw one. My brother,

[00:01:35] he didn't know how to explain this, but he said, and this was probably two or three days before

[00:01:39] this became really, really big. He said he was driving down the road in a, in a, in a green beam

[00:01:44] shot right through his windshield. I mean, onto his hood and then maneuvered. So that was pointing

[00:01:49] into from the sky in, in through his window and into like windshield, uh, in the front windshield

[00:01:56] into the cab of his, his truck. And, uh, yeah. And it stayed there for a while. He didn't know what it

[00:02:01] was because it was like, you know, if it was like something like an overpass or in a tree, it would

[00:02:07] pass, but this stayed there and it didn't move. So it means that was something way up in the sky.

[00:02:13] Was he moving?

[00:02:14] He was driving in the dark to where it was staying in the same spot.

[00:02:18] Yes. It had a bead on him.

[00:02:20] Yikes.

[00:02:21] Yeah. So he, and he told me about it right away. Um, I could dig up the conversation and send it to

[00:02:26] you, but I got like, again, I don't know. It's kind of creeped him out a little bit. And, uh,

[00:02:30] you know, I'm like, I don't know. And all the sudden starts stuff started leaking out.

[00:02:35] Wow. Yeah. And see, so it would have been for me, it was Thursday morning here on the West coast,

[00:02:41] which would have been 11 o'clock ish, somewhere around there, probably 10, 30, 11 o'clock, um,

[00:02:48] Pacific time. And I live in the middle of a farm field, uh, far out from any sort of major metropolitan

[00:02:54] areas. And the Eagles are pretty active right now. Uh, there's, this is part of their migratory

[00:03:00] pathway. Um, and sometimes we'll see giant hawks or Eagles or golden Eagles or baby eagles and stuff,

[00:03:07] and they'll be flying around. And one of the things that these birds of prey will do is they

[00:03:12] will hover in the air and ride the wind. And they just kind of sit there with their wings open

[00:03:16] and they stay in the same spot. And I thought at first that that's what I was saying. And then,

[00:03:23] but I was driving and as I was driving, I was realizing that it wasn't, there's no way it

[00:03:28] could have been that, but it was mimicking that, that movement, I guess, so to speak. And it was

[00:03:33] huge. It wasn't, I mean, it was something that was farther off in the distance and it was much,

[00:03:37] much larger than an Eagle. So, um, and I thought, well, you know, maybe it's just a plane. Maybe I'm

[00:03:44] just seeing a plane at an angle that looks like it might be flying off in a specific way, you know,

[00:03:49] or maybe, maybe just because the way the light was hitting it. I don't know. I mean,

[00:03:53] I'm also a firm believer of that kind of stuff. And, uh, you know, I have seen orbs and stuff back

[00:04:01] even 20 years ago, um, flying over before drones were even a huge deal over a major metropolitan area.

[00:04:08] And it wasn't like, there was thousands of people that saw the same thing. So, you know,

[00:04:13] I'm not, I'm not surprised by what we're seeing as much as the frequency of what we're seeing and

[00:04:19] all at the same time. That's the kind of the, the odd one to me. So, yeah. And one of the craziest

[00:04:25] things is, is our government, um, of course they're all deny, deniability all the way across

[00:04:31] the board and nobody knows anything. And, but this, this is what baffles me. They're saying,

[00:04:35] they're saying, uh, they're not, they're not harmful. They're saying, no, they're not ours.

[00:04:39] Uh, or I'm sorry, no, they're not ours. Uh, don't shoot them down. Uh, they're, they're no threat.

[00:04:44] And like, how do you know they're no threat? Because you just pretty much said they're not

[00:04:47] ours. You don't know what they are. Yeah. And that's, that's kind of a scary thing because

[00:04:51] if we've got, if it is a hostile country, which there are several who are, I'm sure ready,

[00:04:57] primed and ready to come after us, Iran being the one that's probably the most talked about at the

[00:05:04] moment, but not the only one. I mean, what was it a year and a half ago? We, we were

[00:05:09] looking at the Chinese spy balloon flying across and then now we're, we're seeing this

[00:05:13] kind of stuff. Um, it's kind of, I mean, it's, it's perked my interest for sure.

[00:05:18] Peaked my interest. I told my brother just this morning that I thought that this was in,

[00:05:22] you know, directly related to the Chinese spy balloon thing that I maybe cause those

[00:05:26] were to me, cheaper versions. They were just, you know, filled with air, just kind of floating

[00:05:31] around with whatever kind of motorized mechanism they had, but there wasn't that many of them.

[00:05:36] And they, and what drives me nuts is that nothing was done about them forever. I mean,

[00:05:39] they, one of them voted almost completely across the United States before they, they shot it down

[00:05:43] and whatever became of it, did anybody ever tell us, share with the public what it was?

[00:05:48] No, I don't remember seeing anything about it.

[00:05:52] I don't, I don't remember hearing your, you know, you think that'd be some kind of big news,

[00:05:55] you know, that, that, you know, somebody from the, from the state department or, or

[00:06:01] Homeland Security would, would, would put out a press conference just to let the American

[00:06:06] people know and keep us informed, which we all know that they don't do that. Hey, yes.

[00:06:10] In fact, here's the timeline. One was, was seen entering into our, you know, what it was

[00:06:15] the East coast, I think, or the West coast, wherever it entered in from and was shot down

[00:06:19] overseas on the West coast. I'm sorry, East coast. And, and then the debris was collected

[00:06:24] and we found it to be blah, blah, blah, blah. We got none of that. We got absolutely nothing.

[00:06:28] And to me, we sent all kinds of Intel back, but by just allowing these to float around

[00:06:33] in our airspace for so long unchecked is mind boggling to me. But more than that, if they

[00:06:37] were in fact nefarious, like from another country, uh, spying to me is nefarious, uh, and, and

[00:06:44] nothing was done about it. That's baffling to me. It's like, we have complete incompetence

[00:06:48] running this freaking country right now that, that steps are not being taken to secure our,

[00:06:52] our own airspace. And that emboldens in the country that did this, or maybe even more

[00:06:57] a collaboration of countries. All right, let's send some more expensive things in.

[00:07:00] And there's word that these are coming up out of the ocean, which I think is mind boggling

[00:07:05] in order for that to happen. If these are actually drones, they'd have to be released from, I don't

[00:07:09] know, say a submarine. Would you guess that? Yeah. Either a submarine or a, uh, sub, um,

[00:07:18] I don't know. So like a subterranean vessel of some kind platform or, but that, that kind

[00:07:25] of thing you think that we'd have eyes on and it's like, well, no, we're just like, what is,

[00:07:32] but that's one of the things about drones. That's beautiful. Is it? You can deploy them

[00:07:36] from anywhere. I mean, deploy them from the back of a pickup truck, a dinghy, you know,

[00:07:41] a kayak you can, you know, and that's just kind of the crazy thing about these things is maybe

[00:07:47] it is coming up out of the ocean, but from a very small vessel, that's not something that's

[00:07:52] on a larger scale radar, you know? Speaking of large scale. What's that? I said, speaking

[00:07:58] of large scale, have you ever seen a laser beam that is about an inch in diameter? No. Well,

[00:08:02] so this is the text message I found from my brother. Um, I did a search cause I remember

[00:08:07] he told me that it was a green laser. So I looked up, I just did a search keyword search

[00:08:12] green. He said, I, this was on Wednesday, November 13th. Right. So not too long ago

[00:08:16] before this all became, started becoming a big deal. I just had a strange experience.

[00:08:19] It was really dark on my way to work as usual. And when I was on the interstate, a green,

[00:08:25] what looked like a laser about an inch in diameter shine into my hood. It stopped on my hood and zipped

[00:08:32] across the hood and briefly shined into my front window as it zipped off. It was weird. And it was

[00:08:38] so bright. Huh? Yeah, that's crazy. An inch in diameter. That's fairly significant. As far as a

[00:08:44] beam goes, I'm surprised it didn't do any damage to the vehicle because usually the green lasers have a

[00:08:49] tendency to be so powerful that they'll burn stuff. So yeah, I don't know. That's weird.

[00:08:57] Well, yeah. And you know, cause cause you've been watching any of these YouTube videos,

[00:09:00] people and pilots are getting green lasered by these things. And that's what happened to my

[00:09:05] brother. And it's, you know, it's like, this is something, you know, that's comparable and people

[00:09:09] are seeing these, what color were the lasers that were, um, uh, that was in Hawaii. Do you remember

[00:09:13] the, that was catching stuff on fire? I don't remember the color, but I know that they,

[00:09:17] they didn't have an impact on blue. So there's probably some sort of spectrum opposite of that.

[00:09:26] But yeah, I couldn't tell you. Yeah. I don't know if there's a correlation or not,

[00:09:29] but I just thought that was weird. Um, I do have, let me see here audio. Now this is, um,

[00:09:35] this is the Biden's official press on the mystery drones. Take this for what it's worth. You know,

[00:09:41] this is coming from the white house, which we don't, you know, we all, it is what it is.

[00:09:46] Cause half the things that come out of there, they deny, deny, deny anyway. And you know,

[00:09:50] you can go into any two years later that, Oh, they were lying. Yes. Pretty much everything

[00:09:54] that you and I, and in this show in particular, been talking about for the last several years of,

[00:09:58] you know, yeah, you can call me conspiracy theorist if you want, but I've been right a hundred

[00:10:02] percent of the time. And that's what's goofy about this. Um, I haven't predicted what this is yet.

[00:10:07] So I'm not going to say it, throw it out there, but here's, here's Biden, I guess. And this is a

[00:10:11] video that pulled up. This is shocking. Okay. And I'm not the only person who feels this way.

[00:10:16] This was happening at Langley a month ago. Okay. These people are not crazy. They're seeing these

[00:10:22] things with their own eyes. This is not normal behavior. They're not planes that are coming in one

[00:10:27] direction and they're heading into Newark airport. We, we, we,

[00:10:32] we spend $824 billion on defense. We have the greatest intelligent capability in the world.

[00:10:38] So how can you stand there and say to the country right now, gosh, darn, we just don't know what

[00:10:46] these are. It'll make sense. Cause I'm not going to lie to you or to the American people. And I'm not

[00:10:51] going to say we know something when we don't. Uh, and we would never ever stoop to think that

[00:10:56] American citizen was crazy or nuts because of what they're seeing and what they're documenting.

[00:11:01] We're taking that imagery seriously and we're doing the best we can to.

[00:11:04] I pause it right there. Cause I just want everybody to know this is John Kirby.

[00:11:07] He's notorious for telling us lies also. And he analyze it. And we encourage people to come

[00:11:12] forward if they have additional sightings and imagery, I want to do the best.

[00:11:16] We can triangulate it. But let me, I'll be gosh darned if I'm going to stand up here and make up stuff

[00:11:19] that I don't know to be true.

[00:11:20] We don't want you to make up anything. Um, you know, do you know, and you can't say,

[00:11:24] can you tell me that?

[00:11:26] No, no, I'm telling you, Martha, I'm telling you, we don't, you don't know every, we don't,

[00:11:31] we can't corroborate every single sighting. Some of them we have,

[00:11:34] not all of them. And we're working hard to do that.

[00:11:39] You know, again, deny it's what they're good at.

[00:11:42] Yeah. And they can't corroborate some or all or whatever. Yeah. Just nothing but beating around

[00:11:48] the bush and people want answers and people want answers now because it's like, well,

[00:11:52] wait a second. I've seen what drones are capable of doing. And because of that, I want my own drones

[00:11:58] for, for self-defense and surveillance around my property. It's just something that I've been

[00:12:02] looking into. One of the things that I thought was kind of interesting that came out of this was

[00:12:07] the potential that this is being used as a red flag to drive legislation that would prevent

[00:12:14] civilians from owning and operating drones for their own use, which would basically, I mean, it's,

[00:12:21] there's no rights in the constitution saying you have the right to keep and bear drones. Now we do have

[00:12:27] flight, uh, laws that you can get certified to be able to fly them in airspace and all this kind of

[00:12:34] stuff. But if they revoke that from a civilian, then what that does is it allows the government to

[00:12:40] have ultimate power of drone operation within the airspace that they control. So I think I see this

[00:12:50] on my conspiracy brain going, this is to me more of a red flag because you first start with the fear

[00:12:56] factor, you get people riled up and then all of a sudden people get behind the idea that, Hey, nobody

[00:13:01] should have drones in our airspace, except the federal government or our, our military or whatever.

[00:13:07] And then what happens is that civilians who are capable of flying these things for their own

[00:13:13] purposes, all of a sudden have either higher restrictions, background checks, you know,

[00:13:17] licensing, all that kind of stuff to where it's not as easy to be able to fly them, use them or,

[00:13:23] or work with them. So I, to me, I see that as kind of a double-edged sword. Like, yeah,

[00:13:28] it's bad if, if, if we have foreign agents doing this, but I am with as much as the federal government's

[00:13:35] been working against its own people in the last 12 months, especially I see, I could see that

[00:13:40] becoming something that would be a red flag to drive that.

[00:13:46] Because we're looking at, you know, cause as you said, the two-edged sword, how far does the

[00:13:51] second amendment take us? There was no airplanes when this thing was written, but, but if there's,

[00:13:56] but if there's firearms in the air, then civilians should have, have access to firearms in the air.

[00:14:00] If the government's doing it, then civilians should be able to do it. Correct. And the whole

[00:14:04] point of the second amendment is not for hunting. It's not for protecting your home. It's for

[00:14:07] defending against a tyrannical government. And so the, the, the question becomes, you know, are we,

[00:14:12] are we gaslighting now with the American population under the, under the old fashioned guise of safety

[00:14:16] and security? We're just going to say, yeah, these are bad. These are bad. These are bad until the

[00:14:20] American populace like, Oh yeah, drone be bad. And then they have air superiority, you know,

[00:14:25] which they always have. I get that. Uh, it's not been so much a threat, you know,

[00:14:29] then it seems like the big thing with the American population right now is, you know, just give me

[00:14:33] just basically, they just want it enough to protect their home. And in case the government tries to act

[00:14:37] stupid on the ground, nobody really takes to the sky and that's fine. I don't think they were made to

[00:14:42] fly. No. And I mean, I, the thing is, so I've been looking into, we were talking about this behind

[00:14:48] the scenes about doing a show about drones and their use as a prepper tool weapon, whatever you

[00:14:54] want to call it surveillance. Um, in, in my case, and, and I'm digging into what it takes to do that.

[00:15:00] And basically you just have to pass a test and get your license every three years, I think to have

[00:15:08] it renewed and you're essentially a drone pilot. And at that point, you know, you have to follow

[00:15:14] certain guidelines and make sure you stay out of specific airspace and, you know, under certain

[00:15:18] flight decks, that kind of stuff. So there are specific things that you need to know about, but

[00:15:23] and, and payload capacities and all this kind of stuff.

[00:15:26] That to me is all fair.

[00:15:28] What's that?

[00:15:28] That to me is all fair because we got people, we got civilians flying around up there.

[00:15:32] You know what I'm saying?

[00:15:33] Correct. Oh yeah, absolutely. You know, I have crop dusters where I live,

[00:15:36] so they fly a hundred foot on the deck. So it's really, I mean, I gotta be really careful

[00:15:42] certain times of year if I want to send one of these things up, but the idea that I can send one

[00:15:48] up 300, 400 feet to get a 360 degree line of sight several miles out, you know, to me, that's an ad

[00:15:57] and very advantageous position to be in. Um, especially because of where I live. So for me,

[00:16:05] it has some serious advantages, but to have that stripped away because people are afraid

[00:16:11] of the potential, you know, that's not necessarily the right thing in my opinion. You know, I,

[00:16:17] I don't know there. I think it could be, it could go down a really dark, slippery slope. If,

[00:16:22] if people aren't smart about what they're seeing, obviously report these things, tell people what's

[00:16:28] going on, but don't get on any bandwagons quite yet. I mean, I think that's the position that's going

[00:16:34] to be taken here in the very near future that, Hey, we're going to circle the wallet wagons and try

[00:16:38] and prevent civilians from getting drones. And I think that's probably the worst thing that you

[00:16:43] could possibly do. Exactly. Cause I mean, anyway, okay. So let's, uh, here, this is a mod podge of

[00:16:49] like just a collected bunch of videos on this thing. And just from around the different news

[00:16:54] organizations, uh, Fox, Fox news, the Pentagon, uh, briefings, uh, just listen to this, just mod podge.

[00:17:00] Um, again, this is being investigated by local law enforcement. What our initial assessment here

[00:17:06] is that these are not, um, drones or activities coming from a foreign entity or adversary.

[00:17:13] You're telling me we don't know what the hell these drones are in New Jersey are. Is that correct?

[00:17:20] That's right. It's crazy. I mean, that's crazy. That's madness that we don't know what these drones

[00:17:26] are. From the coast guard who said that one of their 47 foot, um, uh, motor lifeboats was followed

[00:17:34] by between 12 and 30 of these drones as they went, uh, through the water. These are six foot drones

[00:17:42] that are somehow evading our detection. They are not being detected. They're saying no threat,

[00:17:47] but how the hell do they know? They don't know anything. They don't know what it is. They don't know

[00:17:51] where it come from. They don't know nothing. Uh, they know that they, they can't track them. Uh,

[00:17:56] they know that they don't emit a signal. They know that they can't see them when they turn their

[00:18:00] lights out. They also indicated that they don't know where they come from. They don't know where

[00:18:04] they go to. One family claims they followed a drone in their car. And while it hovered above them,

[00:18:09] the clock in their car changed times. Some of the FBI agents that have been assigned to look into this

[00:18:16] have reported drones flying over their homes. It's right here over a Picatinny. There was a

[00:18:21] drone just hanging out. I put my drone up in the air and went towards it. I had full battery life,

[00:18:26] not three minutes into the flight. I lost control of the drone warning on my screen, you know,

[00:18:32] lost control. And my drone started going down dead. These are fully charged batteries. It's two

[00:18:36] batteries that have died within seconds. And the drone went up and what, like a couple of feet off

[00:18:41] the table and they came right back down. Okay. You see it. You see how it goes.

[00:18:47] See how it goes. And then it becomes a spacecraft or aircraft or whatever you want to call it.

[00:18:53] What the fuck is that, bro? Did this get smaller? Bro, what?

[00:19:02] Above the ocean. And it was low, very low, but so bright and so clear. And it was huge. Like when you,

[00:19:10] I'm concerned, I issued a letter to ask for more information. I think there should be a lot more

[00:19:14] transparency about that. Can you make that make more sense? Because I think people in New York and

[00:19:19] New Jersey see drones the size of an SUV over their house every night and think that that doesn't

[00:19:24] make any sense. I understand why people would be looking at this and being concerned about it.

[00:19:28] We're concerned about it too, which is why we have the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI.

[00:19:33] My goodness. It's Kirby. And taking it seriously.

[00:19:35] We, we, we're not USA. Yeah. So what do you think, man?

[00:19:41] Well, I mean, the, the battery usage and stuff like that, that is kind of an interesting thing. And

[00:19:46] you know, right there, you've got civilians who are using their own drones for counter

[00:19:52] surveillance basically to find out what's going on. And if it turns out that we've got drones

[00:19:58] in the air that are capable of downing our counter surveillance, then we've got a problem,

[00:20:05] a big problem because as civilians, we can't even, we can't even use what we have.

[00:20:09] I'm sorry about that. Yeah. Cause and they're only seeing, these things are only operating at night.

[00:20:14] I guess nobody's seen them during the day. Have you heard of anybody seeing them during the day?

[00:20:17] Well, that's what I was. It was broad daylight when I saw the one, what I thought was, um,

[00:20:22] um, and any other times I've seen them, they've been orbs in the sky. Um, so they haven't, you know,

[00:20:29] and this was before, I mean, when I saw these, these ones before about 15, 20 years ago, it was

[00:20:34] like, you could get a small itty bitty drone, like the ones you hold in your hand at the mall.

[00:20:39] And they were just starting to come out. So I figured it was some sort of military operation

[00:20:44] or something that the, uh, air force base nearby. So, but it was just kind of a weird phenomenon.

[00:20:51] And it was kind of like one of those three had three different glowing orbs on it that were

[00:20:58] separated, but they were moving around just like these people were describing. And it is, it's,

[00:21:03] it is creepy to behold. And I think a lot of these people are valid in their concerns for seeing this

[00:21:10] stuff and having essentially a national defense system and Homeland security that is just as,

[00:21:17] uh, baffled by what these are, you know, you would think that they'd be like, okay, this is what this

[00:21:25] is. We're taking these actions, but they're just like, Oh, well, we're trying to confirm. Well, it's,

[00:21:29] we got citizen journalists out there who were essentially just confirming as we go. I mean,

[00:21:36] we're in a stage of information sharing that is above and beyond anything we've had in the past.

[00:21:42] And now we're seeing this stuff live and in real time in some cases, and none of it's getting

[00:21:46] discounted at all. So. Well, you kindly brushed over just ever so slightly on, on having to get

[00:21:53] confirmation of what these things are. And I have a few audios here of just like, like this one I

[00:21:58] hear is from New York police department, the special operations aviation command. And like,

[00:22:03] just listen to the audio of this, because these guys all, everybody that's listening to these,

[00:22:07] I'm sorry, that's spotting these things there have no idea what they're doing. They're so confused.

[00:22:10] And you people, you don't, you'd think that people who spend all their time, like this is

[00:22:14] their livelihood, this is their job in the sky would, would recognize what these things are,

[00:22:19] you know, and how they operate, but they're just, they all, it's like the tic-tac UFO looking

[00:22:23] things that they've been seeing, you know, nobody's been able to identify these things,

[00:22:26] find out what they are. And so when a, when an experienced pilot that's been doing something like

[00:22:31] this for 30 years, see something zigzag past him like that and take off an extraordinary amount

[00:22:36] of speed. I mean, do you not take him for his word or you just think he's crazy and let him keep

[00:22:41] on flying? You see what I'm saying? Like they'll continue flying after that. And it's not like

[00:22:45] these guys are spotting these things, reporting these things are losing their licenses because

[00:22:48] they're crazy. They're writing reports, they're being silenced.

[00:22:52] Yeah. And I, I mean, my brother was a helicopter pilot in the Marines and I mean, he told me that

[00:22:58] there was stuff that he saw that he couldn't talk about, you know, and I have a feeling some of that

[00:23:03] stuff is what we're talking about right now, you know, things that he couldn't explain. And maybe

[00:23:09] it's stuff that's been around since the forties. And it's just kind of like something that it's that

[00:23:14] kind of that unspoken rule among pilots that you just keep your mouth shut or you're going to lose

[00:23:20] your wings kind of thing. But I don't, I don't know that for a fact, but I, it's kind of like,

[00:23:24] you know, you just discount what you saw because there's no way that what you saw was actually

[00:23:28] there. And I think we're starting to see that these things really do exist.

[00:23:33] Right. Absolutely. And what are they? We don't know. It's yet to be determined. Let's, uh, let's

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[00:24:47] Okay, so let's listen to this from the New York Police Department Special Operations Aviation Command.

[00:25:25] Jersey Police Department, Ocean County, New Jersey, Eugene, Oregon.

[00:26:25] Air 22.07, good.

[00:26:42] I do have an aircraft that you're 10 to 9 o'clock in about 120 miles out.

[00:26:48] A few times over the last month in the same area.

[00:27:07] Air 22.07, roger.

[00:27:08] How far out are you 10 o'clock in?

[00:27:10] Are they at a similar altitude of you?

[00:27:13] It's really hard to tell. They seem quite far and probably the same altitude or high.

[00:27:20] Roger, thanks for the report.

[00:27:21] Thank you.

[00:27:24] 1596.

[00:27:26] 1596, bud.

[00:27:27] Is there any military activity out straight ahead of us?

[00:27:30] 1596, no, we're not seeing anything. I had another one report at like 30,000 feet in the Eugene area.

[00:27:36] We're not sure what it is.

[00:27:38] Yeah, there's lots moving out there.

[00:27:41] 1596, yeah, they're looking into it.

[00:27:43] And where is that at for 661 on the Fox?

[00:27:48] 661 on the Fox, that's 10 by.

[00:27:50] You know, to 1596, does it still look like it's in the Eugene area?

[00:27:53] Yeah, just straight west of Eugene.

[00:27:55] I mean, we're seeing three or four targets.

[00:27:58] You know, they're all altitudes up and down.

[00:28:01] It's pretty crazy.

[00:28:03] You know, 1596, does it look like it's about at your altitude level 260?

[00:28:08] Nothing on radar. That's a crazy thing.

[00:28:09] There was some at 30, probably.

[00:28:12] I mean, they're shooting way up by, could we say, maybe up to the 50s, it looks like.

[00:28:18] 1596, right?

[00:28:19] That's 50,000 feet.

[00:28:22] Yeah, I heard it. We'll be looking at 661 on the Fox.

[00:28:24] Yeah, it looks like commercial airline.

[00:28:29] Air at 22-0 or something.

[00:28:31] Blackgate 35, do you see any lights or aircraft movement out here at like 3 o'clock there?

[00:28:38] I have a couple aircrafts recording it.

[00:28:41] Blackgate 35, roger, thank you.

[00:28:43] And you can call back to Seattle Center, 125.8.

[00:28:45] Good day.

[00:28:47] Medevac 1, Luma, Fox, that's at North Bend Airport.

[00:28:49] Direct North Bend Airport.

[00:28:51] And is there traffic actually out about our 2 to 3 o'clock, about, I don't know, 20, 30 miles?

[00:28:59] Medevac 1, Luma, Fox, that no.

[00:29:01] Is that the four different lights going up and down?

[00:29:04] I'm getting a few reports, but you're seeing it right in front of you now too as well?

[00:29:09] It's 2 to 3 o'clock up, yeah, about 2 to 3 o'clock from our position.

[00:29:14] Looks about 20 miles going in circles.

[00:29:17] Medevac 1, Luma, Fox, that yeah, we're not seeing anything.

[00:29:20] Getting a lot of different reports out there, some at 30, some all the way up to 50,000,

[00:29:25] about three to four different lights.

[00:29:26] Does it look like they're around your altitude now?

[00:29:29] No, there's one way up high and one about my altitude.

[00:29:35] Moving in like a circle, like a corkscrew pattern.

[00:29:40] Medevac 1, Luma, Fox, that's just looking into this a little bit more.

[00:29:45] Could you give me another more accurate report, please?

[00:29:48] Usually I have eyes on what looks like an aircraft strobe that's at my 2 o'clock and 22 miles at my altitude.

[00:30:00] I'm actually showing him on C-Cast.

[00:30:02] Do you see that one?

[00:30:03] Medevac 1, Luma, Fox, that I do not.

[00:30:05] Does it have a policy stress and maintain 1,4,000?

[00:30:08] Press, uh, send and maintain 1,4,000.

[00:30:11] Medevac 6, Luma, Fox, shut.

[00:30:13] He looks like he's moving towards, it looks like it's moving towards the north.

[00:30:18] Like I said, 22, Medevac 6, Luma, Fox.

[00:30:24] And I have 1, Luma, Fox, shut, thank you.

[00:30:26] And center, Medevac 6, Luma, Fox.

[00:30:29] And I have 1, Luma, Fox, shut up.

[00:30:30] Go ahead.

[00:30:31] Just had another one show up about my 1 o'clock, about 1,000 feet high,

[00:30:36] zipping towards us and then back out towards the ocean.

[00:30:39] It's red, red in color.

[00:30:41] Zipping.

[00:30:43] Moving at extreme speeds.

[00:30:45] I don't even know how to describe that matter.

[00:30:47] It's my left 6, Luma, Fox.

[00:30:49] Medevac 1, Luma, Fox, shut, roger.

[00:30:51] You are cleared to maneuver as necessary, left and right,

[00:30:54] to avoid the UFO out there.

[00:30:56] And all the reports you give notes are good information.

[00:30:59] Appreciate it.

[00:31:00] Thank you.

[00:31:01] Yep.

[00:31:03] Medevac 1, Luma, Fox, shut up.

[00:31:04] Any chance you were able to film any of that?

[00:31:07] We're trying right now, 1, Luma, Fox, trotted.

[00:31:10] It's weird.

[00:31:10] It's a red, circular shape.

[00:31:13] And it keeps zipping out towards the ocean and then coming back in about, I don't know,

[00:31:18] 20 miles or closer to us.

[00:31:20] And then it zips back out of the ocean and we can't see it.

[00:31:23] 1, Luma, Fox.

[00:31:24] Thank you.

[00:31:26] Medevac 4, Luma, Fox, shut up.

[00:31:27] You can expect it.

[00:31:28] Say again for 4, Luma, 1, Luma, Fox.

[00:31:31] Medevac 4, Luma, Fox, shut up.

[00:31:32] You can expect that approach.

[00:31:33] Thank you.

[00:31:34] Dow's altimeter is 2, correction 3, 0, 1, 7.

[00:31:38] Medevac 1, Luma, Fox, shut.

[00:31:39] But any chance I can write you my number?

[00:31:42] And if you get a video or a picture, you can send it up.

[00:31:45] There's a lot of controllers here.

[00:31:46] Pretty interested in seeing what you're looking at there.

[00:31:49] No doubt.

[00:31:49] They think he's crazy by now.

[00:31:50] Yeah, let me get a piece of paper real quick.

[00:31:52] Hang on one second.

[00:31:56] Fox, shut up.

[00:31:57] Area code 42555.

[00:32:02] Sorry, 42555.

[00:32:03] I have my med crew in the back trying to film it, too.

[00:32:05] They're watching the same thing I'm watching up here.

[00:32:08] Headed back 1, Luma, Fox, shut up.

[00:32:09] Appreciate it.

[00:32:09] And name, do you want to shoot me a text, picture, photo, whatever you got?

[00:32:13] So we're all pretty curious.

[00:32:15] Will do.

[00:32:15] 1, Luma, Fox.

[00:32:16] 1, Luma, Fox, shut up.

[00:32:17] Descent pilot's discretion.

[00:32:19] Maintain 1, 0, 10,000.

[00:32:21] I have discretion 1, 0, 10,000.

[00:32:23] 1, Luma, Fox.

[00:32:25] Headed back 661, Luma, Fox, shut up.

[00:32:28] I let the next controller know of what's going on there.

[00:32:32] And again, you are free to move left or right as necessary.

[00:32:35] You can contact them on 127.55.

[00:32:38] Any updates would be appreciated.

[00:32:40] All right, you said you want me to switch to 127.55 for 1, Luma, Fox,

[00:32:44] to the right of my aircraft?

[00:32:55] We're only seeing one.

[00:32:57] It's a red circle-shaped object that's zipping out over towards the ocean

[00:33:02] and disappears for 20 miles from a month off the right side of the aircraft

[00:33:08] but picking it up on T-Cast.

[00:33:10] Comes back in and then it steps back out over the ocean at a rapid rate of speed.

[00:33:20] Coast Guard 6063, just north of Newport, you monitoring frequency?

[00:33:25] Coast Guard 6063, just north of Newport, you on frequency?

[00:33:29] At North Bend, reporting a quarter now.

[00:33:33] I think we're going to have to return to Aurora for MET661, Luma, Fox.

[00:33:37] Cleared via direct MET661, Luma, Fox, shut up.

[00:33:41] 125.8, MET661, Luma, Fox, Seattle MET661, Luma, Fox, drive for a couple minutes away.

[00:33:53] MET661, Luma, Fox, drive, sales center, welcome back.

[00:33:55] Salem altimeter 3028, you are cleared to maneuver however you like.

[00:33:59] One able, proceed direct to Aurora State and advise.

[00:34:01] All right, one able, direct Aurora State.

[00:34:04] We'll let you know when we're direct to Aurora, MET661 on the Fox, for an update on that thing.

[00:34:08] It keeps zipping in to just barely over Florence and then back out over the ocean.

[00:34:14] MET661, Luma, Fox, drive, thank you.

[00:34:15] Yeah, we have a Coast Guard helicopter that's heading down that way.

[00:34:19] They're just southwest in Newport now.

[00:34:20] I'm trying to get a hold of them, but no joy, unfortunately.

[00:34:24] Roger that.

[00:34:27] Definitely higher than the Coast Guard helicopter, I'm sure.

[00:34:29] They're pretty low, aren't they?

[00:34:32] But they are just off the coast, so it's hoping they could see anything.

[00:34:35] I don't know if there's a cloud cover, though.

[00:34:36] Fly flight, the one Luma, Fox, drive.

[00:34:39] Any chance you want to hit that Coast Guard there on guard?

[00:34:43] Our transmitters probably can't reach them that low, but you should have a pretty good line size.

[00:34:47] Coast Guard 6063, Coast Guard 6063, if you just want to hit them on 121.5 there

[00:34:54] and have them try to come up our frequency just for some questions.

[00:34:56] Alright, I'll try to get them.

[00:34:57] Coast Guard 6063, is that what you said?

[00:35:00] Affirmative.

[00:35:03] 6063, this is MET661, LFO, how do you hear?

[00:35:08] Coast Guard on guard frequency, this is MET661, LFO, how do you hear?

[00:35:14] Coast Guard 6063, on guard on 121.5, MET661, LFO, how do you hear?

[00:35:22] Coast Guard calling Seattle Center, we're actually looking for the MET661, LFO, that MET is

[00:35:27] on 125.8.

[00:35:29] And center, MET661, LFO, couldn't reach them on guard.

[00:35:33] Coast Guard 2, please.

[00:35:40] This is MET661, LFO, Seattle would like to talk to you on 125.8.

[00:35:46] That's frequency, 125.8, Seattle Center has a couple questions for you.

[00:35:50] I'm going to contact you on 25.8.

[00:35:57] This is MET661, LFO.

[00:35:59] MET661, LFO, appreciate the report.

[00:36:01] Coast Guard 6063, Seattle, how do you hear?

[00:36:04] Hey, I got you five by five as well.

[00:36:06] I know you guys are probably on search and rescue out there.

[00:36:08] I just wanted to give you a report up ahead about 20 miles.

[00:36:12] There's been several reports now of UFO activity moving what appears to be supersonic speed

[00:36:18] kind of inland and then back over the water.

[00:36:20] We've had multiple altitude reports all the way down to about 1,4000.

[00:36:24] That's the flight level 550.

[00:36:26] I was just wondering if you had any eyes on that out there, if you saw anything.

[00:36:30] Coast Guard 6063 is Roger.

[00:36:32] Thanks for the reports and you can switch back to your frequency.

[00:36:35] If you do happen to see anything out there that looks a little suspicious,

[00:36:38] it's been reported red and circular moving really, really fast.

[00:36:43] If you see that, if you could just come back up on this frequency and let us know.

[00:36:46] I'd appreciate it.

[00:36:48] I'm your name of Fox, I appreciate the report.

[00:36:50] And if I didn't give it to you earlier, Salem Altimeter 3028.

[00:36:55] One zero thousand.

[00:37:00] My men crew said they got some good videos they're going to send and they will get over

[00:37:04] to you guys.

[00:37:05] 661 on the MF.

[00:37:06] Can't wait.

[00:37:08] Plus 1100, unusual report for you.

[00:37:11] That's a multiple UFO report.

[00:37:15] Most recent one was 50 miles west of your position over the coast.

[00:37:22] Circular red and white.

[00:37:24] We had reports of it at one four thousand.

[00:37:27] And then it will shoot up as high as flight level 550.

[00:37:30] It's the highest report in kind of a corkscrew pattern moving at what appears to be supersonic

[00:37:36] or even hypersonic speed.

[00:37:38] So if you can look out that way and just let us know if you see anything or if it's, you know,

[00:37:43] whatever you see, we'd appreciate the reports.

[00:37:45] Yeah, of course.

[00:37:46] We'll look west.

[00:37:47] The last 1100, thanks.

[00:37:49] Yeah, we got time for questions.

[00:37:51] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:37:52] How did you get such an accurate description?

[00:37:54] Was that from another air crew that reported all that?

[00:37:57] So we actually had a medevac Pilatus that was southbound and it came up here to, it was out

[00:38:03] over the ocean and then it came and buzzed them about 20 miles away, same altitude, and

[00:38:07] then shot back out over the water at a very, very, very fast speed.

[00:38:13] And then we also had a aircraft in high altitude that was, I believe, at 39,000 and it just

[00:38:19] shot up past him and in front of him and went way up and then kind of corkscrewed back

[00:38:24] down.

[00:38:25] And again, very, very fast.

[00:38:26] So we're trying to figure out what it is.

[00:38:28] We don't have anything on our radar, not even a local primary target for us.

[00:38:33] Thanks for sharing.

[00:38:34] Yep.

[00:38:35] Medevac 1-Name-Fox.

[00:38:36] I appreciate all the reports.

[00:38:37] You can contact Portland Approach now on 12-118.1.

[00:38:42] That's 18-1.

[00:38:42] Have a good night.

[00:38:44] I'm going to stop it there.

[00:38:46] Sorry, that was a long video, audio rather, but what do you think, man?

[00:38:50] I mean, you got multiple people in there confirming things, multiple people having seen it.

[00:38:55] I mean, they called it out as a UFO, you know, and I mean, I can see it.

[00:39:03] A pilot's not going to be dishonest.

[00:39:05] If anything, he's going to report that stuff just for that reason, to warn other pilots

[00:39:09] because something moving that fast will blow right through a piece of the equipment or

[00:39:13] catch someone off guard or something like that.

[00:39:18] Yeah, I mean, at least he reported it and got video footage.

[00:39:22] So, I mean, I think it would be worthwhile to see that, but I doubt that we ever will.

[00:39:28] Right.

[00:39:29] I'm sure that's being probably confiscated and classified by now.

[00:39:34] Oh, yeah.

[00:39:35] You know the FCC is all over that.

[00:39:37] Yeah.

[00:39:38] I did want to say one thing.

[00:39:40] Have you ever heard the radio broadcast War of the Worlds?

[00:39:44] The original?

[00:39:45] Yes.

[00:39:45] Yeah.

[00:39:46] So, I have a record of that, like an LP, and it's one of my favorite things to listen

[00:39:51] to around Halloween with my kids when they're around.

[00:39:54] But I just thought it was kind of interesting because the very first few bulletins of that

[00:40:02] incident that started, kicked off the whole War of the Worlds in the United States was from

[00:40:07] an unknown object falling on a farm in Grover's Mill, New Jersey.

[00:40:11] Nice.

[00:40:13] So, of course, it escalates from there and goes hypersonic all over the United States.

[00:40:18] And it's kind of, I don't know, it's weird because we've talked about this in the past

[00:40:22] where, you know, the history doesn't repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme, you know.

[00:40:27] So, I'm kind of, I kind of take it with a grain of salt when we're just happening to

[00:40:32] get all of these reports in from New Jersey and off the other coasts.

[00:40:36] But at the same time, you can't deny that because that's, that is straight up radio traffic

[00:40:41] conversation.

[00:40:42] There's no acting there.

[00:40:43] That's all legit.

[00:40:45] That's how you talk.

[00:40:47] You know, all the way down to their flight settings, their radio changeovers from Seattle

[00:40:52] to Portland.

[00:40:53] And that's right in my, you know, region of the world.

[00:40:56] So, I know the areas that they're talking about, you know, right above Newport and what

[00:41:02] was the other one that he said?

[00:41:04] Anyway, those kind of coastal towns right on the Oregon coast, the northern tip of the

[00:41:08] Oregon coast.

[00:41:09] So, I'd be curious to see how many people there observe the same thing.

[00:41:16] Well, yeah, because you think about how many times that thing would zigzag back out over

[00:41:19] the ocean and it could be possible this ain't even the same thing that what everybody's reporting

[00:41:24] now with these, you know, these, what seem to be slow flying drones from what I've witnessed

[00:41:30] on the videos.

[00:41:32] It's hard to tell because there's so many of them out there that they could be the same.

[00:41:37] They could all be related.

[00:41:38] They could be not related.

[00:41:39] Yeah.

[00:41:40] There's no way of knowing.

[00:41:40] When you're in a commercial airline, and especially with their cross-referencing what this medevac flight

[00:41:47] was calling out to the Coast Guard, you know, and you know, that's how all the Coast Guard

[00:41:52] correspondence was blacked out.

[00:41:53] You know, none of that was incorporated in that little bit of audio, which doesn't surprise

[00:41:59] me.

[00:42:00] Right.

[00:42:01] And they do run military operations off of the Puget Sound and kind of in that region.

[00:42:07] But you're looking at more, you know, our airplane, our aircraft, you know, the F-series fighter

[00:42:14] jets and that kind of stuff.

[00:42:16] So we're not, I mean, that's pretty distinctive.

[00:42:18] You would know what that is.

[00:42:20] And from the sounds of it, these things are, their maneuverability was far beyond what we

[00:42:25] are capable of even doing right now.

[00:42:29] Hypersonic speeds going back and forth like that in a straight line corkscrewing from 55,000

[00:42:34] feet down to 1,500 feet.

[00:42:37] I mean, that's, that's spooky.

[00:42:40] Yeah.

[00:42:42] There are some unverified reports.

[00:42:44] I mentioned earlier that I was going to get to it later that a dirty bomb or two or more

[00:42:50] might've made it through some of our ports over in New Jersey, which is what these are

[00:42:55] for.

[00:42:55] And these are actually the, what, what some are saying are radiation sniffing drones, which

[00:43:02] would also make sense if you think about why the government doesn't want you to shoot them

[00:43:06] down.

[00:43:06] Right.

[00:43:07] Um, but they're also saying they're not, they're no threat, but they're also, you know,

[00:43:14] deniability saying we don't know what they are because they don't want to cause mass hysteria.

[00:43:18] They don't want their, you know, should this administration admit openly that, Hey, our, our,

[00:43:23] our borders are down, you know, our, our security's low, uh, dirty bombs came through.

[00:43:28] You see what I'm saying?

[00:43:29] Yeah.

[00:43:30] They would never admit that, especially with the heat of the border right now and this

[00:43:33] border crisis that's going on.

[00:43:35] And so introduce these, uh, these, these basically drug sniffing dogs are flying around in the

[00:43:41] sky looking for trying to detect some radiation.

[00:43:43] If that's the case, what's your thoughts on that?

[00:43:46] I mean, I can totally see it, you know, the, the potential of a dirty bomb activity or even,

[00:43:51] uh, dirty bombs connected or, you know, those capabilities connected to the drones themselves

[00:43:57] so that if they do wind up getting in some sort of altercation or detonation above ground,

[00:44:03] then you have a low, um, how do you call it?

[00:44:07] Uh, what it, uh, it's an EMP, but it's above the ground, which has a much greater impact.

[00:44:14] Yeah.

[00:44:14] So you're feeling like a low altitude EMP.

[00:44:16] Yeah, correct.

[00:44:17] And so all they need to do is just fly around and wait for someone to shoot them.

[00:44:21] You know, even if they have the payload, but they don't have the means to detonate it,

[00:44:24] they'll just wait for a crazy American to blow, you know, pull out a firearm and someone

[00:44:29] actually hits it.

[00:44:30] Next thing you know, you got all of New Jersey out of power and electricity.

[00:44:36] Yeah.

[00:44:36] Well, the crazy thing is that a lot of Americans, cause you, you know, in the North, people are

[00:44:40] looking at these things, but in the South, people are shooting at these things.

[00:44:43] Correct.

[00:44:43] And that's the difference in the cultures in the United States is so vast.

[00:44:47] And from what I'm hearing that some of these things have been shot down, but you don't hear

[00:44:52] anything about it because they get scooped up and you know, uh, there's, there's so many

[00:44:56] mysteries because I just way I was thinking if I, if you want to find out who's behind

[00:45:01] this to shoot down a drone and the first group to show up and take it is who's probably going

[00:45:05] to be the ones responsible and know exactly what's going on.

[00:45:07] Yep.

[00:45:08] If Homeland Security shows up saying, Hey, you know, and they're, they take it from me.

[00:45:12] Maybe they haul me off to jail, whatever the case may be.

[00:45:15] They know all about it.

[00:45:16] They're behind it.

[00:45:17] Yeah.

[00:45:18] It's kind of like throwing a rocket to it.

[00:45:20] What do they throw, throw a rock in a, whatever it is, a group of dogs and one that yelps

[00:45:24] when you hit.

[00:45:25] Yeah.

[00:45:26] And it's, it kind of brings into the question, okay, if you own your property, say, so you

[00:45:32] have a square piece of property, it's a quarter of an acre.

[00:45:35] That's fairly typical for a posted stamp, you know, suburban home.

[00:45:40] Do you own the quarter acre, you know, the quarter square acre of airspace above that

[00:45:46] land?

[00:45:47] Like, do you, you have the land rights, but do you have the airspace rights?

[00:45:51] I don't think you do.

[00:45:52] I don't know how high it is.

[00:45:54] Exactly.

[00:45:54] I mean, you can, you can fly a drone.

[00:45:56] So you, I mean, logically you might say, okay, well I have, you know, I have rights to,

[00:46:02] you know, the, the tree line or the highest, uh, you know, a hundred feet above the highest

[00:46:10] vertical obstruction or whatever that might be.

[00:46:12] Let's say that I have ownership of that beyond that.

[00:46:15] You know, if you're firing something at an unknown object, I mean, you're kind of taking

[00:46:21] your own, um, freedom into your hands there because I don't see how you have, you could

[00:46:27] have any grounds to do that.

[00:46:29] But on the other hand, if that thing is two, 300 feet up in the air and you blow it up and

[00:46:35] detonate a, uh, dirty bomb or a, an EMP, you know, then, then we've got a whole nother

[00:46:42] world of problems.

[00:46:43] And then if people are like, Oh no, this is what happened.

[00:46:47] And we don't hear about the aftermath because we have no cell service.

[00:46:50] We have no power.

[00:46:52] We have no communications that people are just going to keep doing it.

[00:46:55] You know, it's, yeah, it's, it's, it's a really weird, seriously double-edged sword with this

[00:47:02] thing.

[00:47:02] Cause on one hand, like I said before, I don't want to lose my right to be able to fly my

[00:47:06] own drone.

[00:47:07] But on the other hand, we got to be careful about how we handle this.

[00:47:10] Cause this is an entirely new threat.

[00:47:12] And one that I kind of saw coming when I could see people were putting flamethrowers on drones

[00:47:18] and sprayers and all kinds of stuff, being able to lift payloads.

[00:47:21] I mean, it wouldn't take much for a foreign body, foreign, foreign enemy to just, you know,

[00:47:28] drop one out of the sky from a hot air balloon or a weather balloon or a, you know, some sort

[00:47:34] of a platform out in the ocean.

[00:47:35] But I have a feeling that what people are seeing aren't drones.

[00:47:40] I think they're being called drones because that's the nearest thing that we have in our

[00:47:44] vocabulary to describe them.

[00:47:46] But I don't think the way these things are flying.

[00:47:48] And for as long as they're flying that, uh, that, that these are even remotely related

[00:47:55] to drones.

[00:47:56] These are something far more advanced because I mean, a typical drone, just so you know,

[00:48:02] and so the listeners know will only last about 20 to 30 minutes on the high side with,

[00:48:07] with traditional maneuvers, nothing fancy, but you start adding in, you know, corkscrew

[00:48:13] dives and, you know, rapid flight movements back and forth that from the sounds of it,

[00:48:18] but that flight conversation was probably over the span of at least 45 minutes, maybe more.

[00:48:26] And, you know, for the, for the, the height and elevation that it was flying at, I, I have

[00:48:33] a feeling that that, that was probably there for some time.

[00:48:36] So I, in the ones in New Jersey, I mean, the, some of the stuff that I've seen, you know,

[00:48:43] they, they're only short clips, but I have a feeling the duration of the reports is if

[00:48:48] you could establish a timeline that would rule out drones entirely because they're just

[00:48:52] not capable of, of staying in the air that long with the battery power that we have,

[00:48:57] you know, the, the technology that we have currently.

[00:49:01] Either way, I'm, I'm appalled by this either way, because if, if there was a dirty bump situation,

[00:49:08] okay.

[00:49:09] And these things are in the air trying to sniff out the bombs, that would mean that we have

[00:49:16] an open, which we already knew a border crisis, right.

[00:49:19] And, and, and we have complete incompetence at our border and, and now you have jeopardized

[00:49:24] the lives of thousands because of this.

[00:49:27] We're talking about could, what could be a potentially nuclear fallout.

[00:49:30] We don't know.

[00:49:30] We don't know.

[00:49:31] We don't know what's it, what, what came in.

[00:49:34] So either that's the case or, or these are foreign invaders of whether extraterrestrial

[00:49:40] or whether foreign, you know, from other countries, whatever the case may be, that's appalling

[00:49:43] too, that they're able to fly around freely and cause all this mass hysteria.

[00:49:47] And our government has, is freaking denouncing any knowledge whatsoever of it.

[00:49:50] And they're taking no response to collect any information either.

[00:49:54] So either way, it's appalling.

[00:49:56] Yeah.

[00:49:56] There's a complete lack of competence going on here.

[00:49:59] There's a complete lack of action.

[00:50:01] The borders are wide open and our airspace is wide open.

[00:50:04] This is sickening to me.

[00:50:05] That is dangerous.

[00:50:06] So I don't know.

[00:50:07] I mean, I think it's, it's something that as civilians, we really need to be mindful of

[00:50:13] for all different reasons that we've talked about already, but it's definitely

[00:50:17] something that people need to put to the forefront.

[00:50:19] This isn't conspiracy theory time.

[00:50:21] This is okay.

[00:50:22] We need to wake up and pay attention to this.

[00:50:25] Yeah.

[00:50:26] Because in the case of this thing that Zipzak and like he said, was shooting supersonic

[00:50:31] speeds across the sky.

[00:50:32] I don't know if you ever shot a tracer bullet, you know, any kind of thing.

[00:50:36] Okay.

[00:50:36] So in the military, when we go in our night shoots, every, I can't remember, fifth or

[00:50:41] 10th round that we shove into our, into our magazine would have a tracer tip on it.

[00:50:45] And that just means it burns with phosphorus.

[00:50:47] Once we shoot it, boom, it ignites and shoots through the air and burns that phosphorus,

[00:50:50] right?

[00:50:50] It just lights up the sky with a red color or whatever color it is.

[00:50:54] And that's the supersonic speed that this bull is traveling at.

[00:50:57] Now imagine it, all right?

[00:50:58] It's not arcing.

[00:50:59] It's just going a straight path.

[00:51:00] And all of a sudden it stops and zigzags back at speeds that would tear.

[00:51:03] It would shred a human.

[00:51:05] If you're inside of a ship that does that to you, there will be nothing left of your body.

[00:51:10] No, you'd just be a pile of goo.

[00:51:11] You'd be a pile of goo because at the end of it, when you come to a complete stop and

[00:51:15] that capsule or whatever it is, that ship that you're inside of opens up because that

[00:51:19] sudden stop and going in the direction would have broke everyone in your body and everything

[00:51:23] inside of you would be spilled out all over the walls of that vessel.

[00:51:26] That's the truth of the matter.

[00:51:28] So if there's anything intelligent operating inside these things, there is some, the technology

[00:51:33] inside of them is so vast that it would almost have to create almost a tear.

[00:51:39] And this is way out there in the weeds, I know, but some kind of tear in space.

[00:51:44] Yeah.

[00:51:44] You'd have to have some way to manipulate time to be able to move at that speed.

[00:51:49] Yes.

[00:51:49] And space.

[00:51:50] Time and space.

[00:51:51] Mm-hmm.

[00:51:52] So that you're, so that the rules of physics are not applying to you.

[00:51:56] Yeah.

[00:51:57] And to my knowledge, the only place where there's, where the laws of physics don't apply is,

[00:52:01] is, is inside of a black hole.

[00:52:04] You know what I'm saying?

[00:52:05] So this is, this is extraordinary for something like this to be zipping around.

[00:52:10] And Trump is the one that declassified a lot of this stuff with the Tic Tac videos, you

[00:52:14] know, that was coming out a long time ago.

[00:52:17] A lot of that stuff started getting released by, by Trump because imagine I would like to

[00:52:20] see all this stuff come out too.

[00:52:21] And like we've talked about last, last two shows, man, we need to roll out the carpet

[00:52:25] on some of this stuff and get it out there to the American people.

[00:52:27] And I'm super excited to see what the next Trump administration is going to do.

[00:52:31] And I don't care about mass hysteria to tell you the truth.

[00:52:33] I just want to know the truth.

[00:52:33] I'm tired of being lying to lie to my dog tax dollars, your tax dollars, everybody's

[00:52:37] tax dollars are going to some things in this, uh, in this country and frankly, in other

[00:52:42] countries.

[00:52:43] And I want to know exactly where opinion is going.

[00:52:45] I want to be informed, not ill-informed and lied to.

[00:52:47] Yeah.

[00:52:48] And I mean, here we are visual, like we have visual proof that this is happening.

[00:52:54] So it's undeniable that these things are happening and, and we're still getting the, the run

[00:52:59] around.

[00:52:59] That's what, that's, I think probably the most disturbing part of this whole thing.

[00:53:03] You know, we want answers and if you don't have answers, say that you don't have answers

[00:53:08] and own that.

[00:53:09] And then we can deal with it.

[00:53:11] But, you know, try to wrap it around.

[00:53:13] I was like, Oh, well, you know, we can't really release this information.

[00:53:16] No, no, you can, you just choose not to.

[00:53:19] And that, that's, that shield needs to be dropped.

[00:53:22] I mean, we need some serious clarity like now, you know, it's not, this isn't something

[00:53:28] to be playing with.

[00:53:29] We need to know if we're in danger or if it's some sort of anomaly or if the government already

[00:53:34] knows what's going on.

[00:53:35] We need to know.

[00:53:37] Absolutely.

[00:53:38] Keep your eyes on the stars, put your feet on the ground, right?

[00:53:41] Yep.

[00:53:42] Absolutely.

[00:53:44] All right.

[00:53:45] Well, wow.

[00:53:45] I don't know.

[00:53:46] This has been an extraordinary episode.

[00:53:49] Extra.

[00:53:49] And I'm not an extraordinary.

[00:53:52] Extra.

[00:53:52] Extra terrestrial episode.

[00:53:53] This has been, this has been out there.

[00:53:55] And again, that's, that's what I like to do every once in a while.

[00:53:57] Like it's, it's nice to get off of, uh, off of, off of the routine of talking about the

[00:54:03] politics stuff in the political season.

[00:54:04] I know things heat up and it's a topic for, for a lot of episodes, but getting off on some

[00:54:09] of that stuff and focus on some of these other things.

[00:54:11] Cause I think there's really some big things coming up here and, uh, you've heard about

[00:54:15] the great awakening.

[00:54:15] I'm sure there's, there's, I'm sure a lot more information and things will be coming out

[00:54:20] here pretty soon.

[00:54:21] And, uh, I think our eyes are gonna be open to a lot.

[00:54:23] A lot of people that's been deceived is going to finally learn the truth for some.

[00:54:26] I don't know.

[00:54:27] It might be too late.

[00:54:28] I don't think some people are going to wake up at all.

[00:54:29] I just think they're forever dumb.

[00:54:31] And that's just how it is because they've so incredibly brainwashed.

[00:54:34] Um, and there's, there's, there's, there's simple inside their, inside their brain housing

[00:54:38] group.

[00:54:38] That's just the way that it is.

[00:54:40] But, uh, I want complete accountability and I want us to know the truth.

[00:54:45] Yeah.

[00:54:45] And I think, I think the American public deserves that.

[00:54:49] And, and really the, the world, if we have something going on here in the United States

[00:54:53] and it's also happening in other nations, then we need to be sharing.

[00:54:56] This information and, and working together to try and identify this.

[00:55:00] Cause if humanity is at risk, then we need to figure out how to either work with these

[00:55:06] beings or figure out a way to survive them.

[00:55:09] Because this is, this doesn't seem like a healthy interaction.

[00:55:15] And we find out that Nancy Pelosi is a reptilian.

[00:55:17] You heard it here first.

[00:55:19] Oh yeah.

[00:55:19] We're done.

[00:55:20] Yeah.

[00:55:20] Well, let's end it there.

[00:55:21] Thanks everybody for listening.

[00:55:22] I am L Douglas Hogan.

[00:55:23] And I'm Ryan Buford.

[00:55:25] Thanks for joining us for another great show.