Women Wednesday - The Rising Republic with Sara Hathaway

Welcome to the Rising Republic. I am L. Douglas Hogan, your host, you're brohem, you're brosif your capadre, you're amigo, your friend, your friendly neighborhood dude. I am the Commander in chief of the Freedom Legion, and I am here today with Sarah F. Hathaway, and so I'm eager to get a hold of her. And uh, we've been anticipating this phone call for a little bit. And she's a hard one to get on because she's got such a busy schedule. But with no further ado, we are at times mercy. So let me give her a call. Hello, Hello, Hello, how are you good? Having a great day? I hear, I understand you got a new toy? Yes? Hack out of me? Hey, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't like Uh, this has been it's not a secret, right. I don't want to spill the beans on anything, but I haven't shared anything. I'm leaving that for you. So if you want to let the count out of the bag and tell me what to listeners, what you got today? Yeah, so Brock spoiled me with a new to wour today. I've wanted that gun for about seven years and finally picked one up today. So I'm so excited to get out to the range and shoot it. It's going to be epic sauce for sure. Yeah. That's the equivalent of a Tar twenty one, right ISRAELI? Uh oh? Correct? All the rifle yep, shoots five five six? Right? Is this? This? Does this shoot the same thing? I I can't remember if you shoot the same thing as our standard five five six that we use over here in our AAR fifteen's correct? Yeah, shoots a five five six or the two two three, but the five five six is you know, preferred for sure. That's really cool. So what you got there? Because you got you got an Air fifteen at least one right, right? Yeah, And so going out on the range with it, it's just more of a challenge for my small frame because everything is out so far right, And I even do a lot of forearm training to make sure I'm strong enough to hold it, but to be able to walk around with it all day. The war is the bullpop option, and so everything just sits back so much better in my body. It's so comfortable too. I see because you sent you sent a picture of it's like half your body size almost, so I don't know how. I think A lot of it is like a like a what is that plastic, It's like a polymer of some kind that's really light weight. A lot of it is palmer, yeah, palmer plastic. You know. And it's funny because when you break those kind of weapons down and you get down to I don't know, I've never opened up a tavar before, so I don't know what. Uh when you have you cracked it open to see what the inside of it is, it is it is it have like gas operated like like an air fifteen sixteen? Now, well, yeah, it is. Actually when you you open up the back and the trigger mechanism comes out of the bottom of like the stock area, but the bolt and all that is through the back of the stock. It comes out so like a field strip, it all comes out the back of it. Okay, But the meat, the meat of the rifle itself, it's just it's just a frame, right. It's just it's funny because every time, you know, if you were to take this picture and put up on Facebook, I know you don't have Facebook count, but if you were thrown up on Facebook and say, hey, look this is what I got and everybody be scared to all this, All the lefties would be scared to death of what you are holding, Like you got this weapon of war. You have no business weapon of war. And it's funny because when you take you do the same thing with them sixteen in ar fifteen, you know, and then for any any kind of Colt style rifle, you break it down and it looks like it looks like a little like I don't want to be like an Ethiopia kid has it. Many of the hunting rifles are way more powerful and everything than a sport gun like that. So but I Am going to take it out and hunt some hog with it, just to have some fun, just to have some fun. Because you got hog, and were you located in Texas? And I have a friend we have property in West Texas and they were just getting overrun by the hogs out there, so they need they need people to come out and clear them out. So I'm more than happy to oblige. You ever going on the on the have you ever gone like on a chopper? Like who's all the musician? I asked my dad. I was like, father, daughter, trip will go do the helicopter with the fifty cow to shoot hogs, and he was like, no, no, we're not doing that, Like, come on, that's definitely on my bucket list for sure. Ted Ted Nugent. Have you ever seen his videos? No? Uh uh, you gotta go look him. I don't even know if you're on if you're. On YouTube, because some of his songs. For sure, yeah, he got good music, but he is an extremely like he's he's really right wing, very very yes, yeah, and and he and he records these and he'll he'll do an overkill thing too. Just besides that, just while we're on the Ted the Ted Nugent thing, and then we're gonna get to I probably should have done an introduction on your first all the good stuff, but I figure, uh, you know, I've been on your show half million times, so all your listener is definitely already know who you are. But uh yeah, but Ted Ted almost said Ted Cruise, Ted Nugent, Ted Nugent. He'll he'll like, uh, he's very very anti COVID vaccine, as as am I. But it's funny because I've seen a video of him being interviewed by somebody, uh you know, some media host and they're like, so what are you saying. Are you saying that everybody who's taking the COVID vaccine is stupid? He said, I can answer that for you very easily, he says, yes, And let me say. Right. One of my favorite words of wisdom from Ted Nugent was him talking about, Okay, so you're gonna get mad at me for hunting a deer, a deer who lived in its natural environment, you know. And these vegans who aren't going to get eat meat, you're yelling at me for hunting and eating meat and doing these things. Yet when you go to grow the tofu that you're going to eat to get your protein, they have to literally clear cut that whole section of land. So every single animal, rodent, you know, anything living on that swath of land has to go for your tofu field anyway, exactly. So tell me which one's better, you know. And I really love that take on it because a lot of times, like with the electric cars, they don't think about, Okay, where does the lithium come from? You know, where are do the batteries for these windmills? Where does it all come from? And the destruction that's done to our earth to harvest those things is astronomically worse than getting oil out of the earth. So I think we have to do some real re evaluating on our green energy so to speak. Yeah, because I saw a meme yesterday and it was very It made me think because I never saw saw it before or even heard the school of thought. But it showed a bald eagle that I guess had got hit in a in a wind turbine, you know, to create green energy, and the eagles laying dead on the ground, and there's a picture of it. And the meme said, if this was a duck covered in oil, there would be outrage right right. So you got you got one form of energy which some could could you know, debate, you know, if what the best form of energy is maybe the oil spills and the ducks and how they done and all that to clean it up with, and then you got the clean energy that's killing. And this is justing. This is one case, one incident. This is happening all of the United States. The giant wind farms are killing damn near extinct birds like American bald eagles. Correct, yep, Yeah, there was a whole section actually in this one area California where they had built all the windmills in there, and they had to take it down because that was the same way the birds were using and it was literally just slaughtering them by the thousands. So, but I mean the lithium's even where. So you got to go five hundred thousand tons of dirt to get to the lithium, which is all done with diesel tractors, and then they take the lithium out and they have to leach it in these huge it looks like corn fields of this green, toxic sludge. They have to leach it through water, so they have to use all that water supply when they could be grown rice or whatever in those fields, you know, and they have to each all this stuff to a certain purity of lithium. So when it gets really really yucky green looking, that's when they know that the lithium is ready to harvest. And they have these massive fields of all this going on, and everybody's like, oh, yeah, green energy, You know, it's not. The lithium is really bad. When you see what they're doing to the planet and then the cobalt and things like that. The amount of people that are in slave labor harvesting that from the earth is really really sad so that you know, we can have the next iPhone or whatever. It's really really sad situation. And most people would rather just put their head in the dirt than realize, you know, all of our the toys and the next best thing that we want, what the cost is of that too, not only other people, but also to our planet. So it kills me that liberals have all these utopian ideas of how they can make the world better place, how they can save the world, but all they're doing is trade in one form of this for that form of that, you know, the Robin Peter to pay Paul. And it has to be a money making option, like a lot of the really good ideas that are very very clean and wouldn't you know vehicles run on water. They're not going to go for that because it's not something that can make them money long term. So we need to really start, you know, reevaluating that. And it's like the healthcare system too and big pharma, because you know, there ain't there ain't no money in curing cancer right. For healing people, you need them to be return visitors. I can't tell you how many people have talked to that have have found a better way of living and found better health just through taking herbs and different things. You know. Now, I believe there's a place for both. Absolutely. Yeah, there's some things that western medicine's really good at. You know, you're having a heart attack, you don't need herbs for it. Right when you're having normal issues with your body, they don't look They look at just the symptoms you're experiencing instead of the whole body and what's really going on with your whole system, and they're just targeting that one thing. Plus, the pharmaceuticals are usually something that they found in nature that they're now man making. And when you find it in nature, usually it comes with all these buffers for your body that are really good for your body. And the medicine might not be as potent, but it's still getting you to the same place. Plus it is working in conjunction with your body, instead of pulling out that one thing that's going to target that one system and then just rail upon all your other systems while it's doing that one thing. Now you need medication to fix those other side effects. And it's a vicious cycle. That's why I've noticed, like my I'm fifty one, tomorrow in my you know, every once in a while, I just never used to happen to me. I used to because now I turn red a lot. I can tell my face seating up, my ears are getting hot, that my blood pressure has come up a little bit. That's because you're doing Swanson clients. You're probably right. We'll talk about that you're pretty soon here. But uh but yeah, and I and and I've looked up the blood pressure medicine and it comes with like fifteen hundred side effects. Yes, it's like, no, thank you all exercise, you know. Right, exactly exactly. Oh, and there's something to be said for that big time. As we age, we have to stay active because you know, anybody I've seen that's in seriously good shape as an elder person has never given up their exercise regiment. This is a good segue into what what you write about and the audio drama that that you do, that you script out and that many yourself and myself and many others have contributed to is is health and fitness Because I've seen I've seen so many people, you know, preppers and survivalists, that that they couldn't walk fifteen to twenty miles. They couldn't throw on a backpack with any significant weight and walking a degree, you know, you know what I'm saying. So survival is more than canning. It's more than saving things and you know, being able to make your own bullets and saving rounds and storing food and keeping and dry, you know, dehydrating your own food. It's more than all of that. It's also physical fitness. And I think it's a huge, huge element that people will completely forget about. If you're going to survive in an end time apocalyptic event, is your physical health. Because we're talking at some point even if there's even if we're not talking about EMP, let's say that we let's say let's say an EMP does go off, right, we lose our vehicles, or an EP doesn't go off, we go on to martial law Marshall Row, where all the gas lean and all the petroleum products are seized by the govern and we no longer have access to those things. We're gona be footing it everywhere we go. Yes, and not only that, but like we're very, very spoiled with our lifestyle right now. Even if you just took away electronics and people went outside to start gardening again, or doing anything that is physical on their body. They're going to find out real quick that they have not been in shape, you know, for a long time, and it takes time to do. You can't this is not something you can do overnight. You know. It takes a lot of time to sculpt your body and then good, you know, God forbid, you're in a self defense situation where you're adrenaline goes through the roof and your body's no longer giving them your muscles those warnings about what it can and can't do. You're not gonna be able to do anything the next day. Forget about protecting your family the next day because you'll be so sore that you won't be able to move pretty much. Do you find your potassium and all this other stuff? You know, all these things are provided to us in the earth, in the world, and those kind of minerals help our muscles truepleinish right and stay physical fit, besides the protein and stuff when they begin to break down and stuff. But I start talking about that because your book one in your series, you write a whole series of what do you tell me? Is there seven books or eight books? Real quick? There's eight books in the Change in Earth series, and then there's two side novels. So everybody loved to hate Swanson so much, he got his origin story, and then one of the main soldiers, cole Vergis, he got his origin stories mainly because I had the content from the audio drama. But the Changing Earth series is an eight book series from start to finish of the story of Erica Moore. It was basically the Sparta Kiss figure for the climate refugees as the world begins to deteriorate and people have to figure out how to not only survive with each other when there's less land, but how to survive when the earth is against them instead of working for them, right. And book one being being Day after Disaster? Right, it is the day after it happens. Can you get kind of like a back of the book synopsis? I know people can can find you on Amazon, but just for our listeners, whore maybe driving down the road or whatever, because I can go into your Google page or your your I'm sorry, your Amazon. Page, Changing her Series dot com. Everything is there, Changing our Series dot com. You're gonna find everything there. But Day after Disaster, basically Erica is down at work in Sacramento California and her house is up in the foothills, and when the earthquake happens, it ruptures the dams and she is trapped in Sacramento and she doesn't know if her family survived up in the foothills, So it's her survival story home to see did my family survive? And then once she arrives back home, becomes a question of do I turn around and help the people who helped me because now they're in danger, or do I take care of myself and move on. So she's really faced with that ethical dilemma towards the end, and then what you know, I don't know spoilers, but and then the what happens to California from there? Right there has to be some kind of conflict in every story that is written to keep the. Reader going absolutely and I'm all about the action scenes. I love actions, So a lot of times I have to slow down to, you know, really bring out those characters and bring out their qualities. But I love writing actions, so it just sucks you right into the story. And then I write a ton of survival fact in with my fiction, so you're actually learning at the same time as you're digesting the story because I think people just learn better that way. So if you're ever in the situation, you're like, oh, Erica did it this way, I can do that too, And that's what I really wanted people to be able to take away from it. I've noticed it when you do that, you're doing most most of the time in a dialogue. You'll have your your characters are communicating back and forth to each other explaining like why they're doing it this way. And I know that you're writing that so the reader or listener in the autio drama can learn because that character is teaching your another character, but it's also teaching the reader, right. TJ and mister Lee have that series where mister Lee is like, we need more chlorine and TJ's like, we need to find a pool store. We need to get the tabs. The chlorine tabs, Oh yeah, because they store longer than you know, the liquid bleach or the liquid chlorine, which is absolutely correct. You should be stocking the chlorine tabs rather than the liquid chlorine. So yeah, I love sliding that kind of stuff and you know, as the survival tip of the day, so that you're actually getting beneficial material out of it. I also noticed that you have because you talked about violence, fighting and action seeing this stuff like that in your in your story, I noticed there's a young edition, a young I'm sorry, young adult edition that you have for Day after Disaster. Right, what is different? So that one, I have some adult scenes in my stories, especially when I first published my book, I had, you know, a little bit more graphic love scenes going on. And then there is a very important rape scene that happens in the story, and it's an absolutely essential scene, but I softened the hack out of it for the young adults version so that they could have a copy of it that was wholesome and not going to you know, present encounters that maybe they're not old enough to really read through yet. So I wanted to definitely put that version out, and I have since republished the whole book as well, and so a lot of that has been softened as far as like graphics, scenery of specific situations. I know that as an author myself, that some of the most difficult stuff that I've had to write was doing stuff like that, because when you're writing in a post apocalyptic world, you put yourself in those situations, those scenarios and a lot of times I find myself. Sometimes I write outlines, but in the middle of those outlines, I'm writing organically. And sometimes I write my character into situations I got to fight out of, and sometimes things get rather brutal, and other times my characters find themselves in scenes that are not savory to write about, and sometimes it does bother me as a writer to have to pin those things out. But you got to think about in an apocalyptic event, these are things that are real. These are the things that's going to happen. Right, Yeah. They When I first put together Day after a disaster, I never intended on publishing it. It was just for fun, just a creative, creative story that I was putting together. And so it was really my thought experience, my brainstorming of Okay, if I was down here, because I was going to school at Sech State at the time, Sacramento State, and I was like, if I was down here and something happened, how would I get home? So Erica is kind of the pseudo me in the respect that it was really my brain exploration of ethically walking myself through situations that you might come across. Once there's no laws. Who is on your side? PBN family. When it comes to healthcare, I know no better ally than the folks at the Wellness Company. They've been our sponsor now for months, and I want you to look at their monthly membership. Visit TWC dot health slash PBN for ten dollars a month or less. Your membership gets you discounted supplements and wellness products, discounted virtual care, and discount on most specialty telehealth services. I'm talking allergy, immunotherapy, freedom from pharma, vaccine injury. These people get it, they get you, and they are the future of healthcare. Visit TWC dot health slash PBN. So tell us a little bit. Because your character Erica Moore, she has a husband, yes, and who plays his voice in the audio drama. So I play Erica, my husband plays Vince, and then my kids play the kids. So we are the family affair. I think that's kind of neat how you've incorporated your family into these roles. So you're writing these characters that are played you by your family. Yes, yeah, they literally are you know, family. My family is everything to me. I could give up any dream that I have. I've been so blessed by the Lord with these wonderful, wonderful individuals in my life, and so they are absolutely one hundred percent everything to me. So when I'm walking through my stories, I definitely couldn't leave them behind. So they've got to come right with me, even though TJ's character would rather that Vince wasn't in the picture. So so TJ. TJ is the person that everybody loves to hate. Yes, he and I've referred to him when I talked to you as as the Megan from the Walking Dead of the Changing Earth series. Yeah, but he never gets what's the fied like they aified Meagan. He will never, yes, will never go down that road and he probably yeah. You're probably right, he never would. But even you know, when Hegan first is is introduced into the Walking Dead series. The Walking Dead series is all based off a comic book, so Megan was I mean, everybody, all the fans of Walking to knew that Megan was coming. They said, no, ween, he's gonna be introduced into the television series, right, But he came. He came as this strong leader and he was doing in his own mind what he thought was right. Correct, He's he. And TJ's character is different than Meagan because Meagan was doing when he killed those main characters, it was more for shock and awe. TJ is actually a control freak. He doesn't like to kill people. He'd rather bring you home and psychologically destroy you and make you his This is now your mat forever true. But both characters. I love debating this with you because I play. I feel invested in Swinson now. I feel that both characters have a doctor that they live by, and that is that people are resources. Yes, even even Meagan who did the head bashing with with his baseball bat who had a name. Swinson has a dogma. Also, his doctrine is you know, he has some shock at all too, but his is more I'm going to hit you with Sheila, which is the name of his whip. Right. Okay, so he won't kill people for shock at all, but he will beat them near to death for shock at all. Correct, Yeah, because he still sees them. As a resource and then parade them around in front of everybody else so that you can see what happens if you come against him. Because he believes that humiliation is a good teacher. Right, Yes, so sweet, and he's very much the Yang to the Yang. Right. So Erica was so powerful as a freedom fighter and just kind of she's very much supported by this network, so she's able to just kind of like do her thing naturally, right, There's always somebody to really support her, so she can just be natural what she does and just let her energy flow rather than all the specifics, whereas Swinson's like, I need to control every aspect and harness everything for the power that it can give me. Very much a very simple character. He doesn't like a lot of lavish anything. He just really loves the power of being able to be that person who's in control of all the people. Another big difference between Swinson and Megan is that that mister mister Swinson, uh, not only does he he has a he has a love and he's able to love and to feel love. Where you don't really see that in mean, you just see he has emotions for like he sensed there's something they wiscified him, where maybe right where Swinson is not woosified in the same sense. No, his and he does have so as a Christian person, I guess I should say there was certain aspects to his character that I wanted to keep identifiable, right, So I wanted people to understand he was human trafficked as a child. He was raised to be that way and never really knew anything else. So he was literally crafted into the machine that he is now and never really revolted against well, I don't again, I don't want to give any spoilers. So he was always fine to be in the position he was in because he was really thankful that he was taken off the street and given this opportunity to grow into this guy. So he's actually really thankful to be there. And so with young children, he's very very kind. He believes he can craft them into the same type of machines and things like that. So it's not that he is. He just will make sure if you go against him that you will never do that again because he knows best. Basically, there's one person, one exception, out there that can get away with such a thing. And when he came off the off the streets, as you know, in the child trafficking thing, he ended up in as a caretaker for a man by the name of mister Lee. Right, yeah, Lee is the one that his bodyguard, Chuck Lawdner found TJ brings him in and so mister Lee basically adopts him, carves his initial and the kids back, and puts him to work in the gym for him, and then raised him up to be this bounty hunter. But yeah, mister Lee is still the man with the hand on the switch, so he it's actually more mister Lee's fault than I would say. I'm kind of seeing because you know, as you as you read through the story in and listen to the audio drama, you can see that that Swinson's almost the gun and mister Lee is the is the wielder. Yes, but they always give the image of TJ as the one in charge, even though that's not actually the case. And it doesn't have to be because if you've ever been in any kind of management position, I mean, every every manager or supervisor, administrator, whatever, has people working under them that make them look good, right, It's like the administrator is always one that gets the credit. For it, exactly. So yeah, and that was a fun It just kind of does his story just kind of fell in that way through crafting it. He really his character really created his own story. He originally entered Dark Days in Denver. That's book five at the very end, and then Battle for the South is all the TJ. Erica Battle or no, not Battles for the South. I'm sorry, Endless Night. That was like book six. So so let's look here at the book I kind of want to go talk about I don't want to talk about each book necessarily, but just kind of throw the names out there. Book one we've already says, Day After Disaster yep, right. Book two is without Land, Yeah. And that's the story of Erica and FEMA camp basically. And then because they're. Trying to rebuild, right like immediately after after the Day after disaster, FEMA is doing its job because it stands for what the Federal Emergency Management Agency, and so they're they're setting up these camps and trying to re establish order and give people housing and food and water and all this other stuff. Correct, right, you Just so we we just lost all the coastlines, the Mississippi River formed in the Mississippi Sea. So you can't have people just running a monk when they just lost everything. They would be at war with the people who have off still, so they rounded them up into FEMA camps to be able to manage the feeding and the care for all these people who were just made homeless. Basically, and book three is called The Walls of Freedom. Correct and Walls of Freedom is you know, obviously Erica wasn't too happy with being in a cage, so they take there's things that set them off that they go on this mission and re enter society. That's when she really becomes the voice of the resistance. Tell us a little bit about the resistance without giving away any spoilers. So the resistance is the mercenary forces are all of our private defense companies that we have in the United States really set up as a counterbalance to the federal government's forces, which were you know, the Navy, the Marines. Everything was folded back into one unit called the Federal Forces because we lost too much, we had to just organize them into one cohesive unit. But then the private defense contracting companies were helping the Feds at the beginning, you know, but as time ticked on and this two tiered society really started getting set up, they would, you know, we just can't stand by. And it's nine years later, we are treating these people like slaves. They're Americans. We fought overseas for them. We can't just like go along with this slavery system. Anymore. We want to go back to the Constitution. So the private defense companies they needed a real they needed they needed a face for the resistance. They needed that person who could tell their story. And it was so horrific because Erica's family, they start the infertilization program the government does. All of the climate refugees are infertilized at the age of thirteen. So Erica, her husband, and the two oldest children are all infertilized. Then they find out that Vince's parents are still alive and they should have never been in the FEMA camp. So now she has this story of she's always been rebellious, she has this story of she shouldn't have been infertilized, she was a landowner, and so it gives them that real face of the resistance and so and walls of freedom. That's when she first shows her face. She goes on trial for her past discrepancies, and she uses it at that moment to really bring back the Constitution and fight for the individual freedoms of every American citizen. Again and you you mentioned the United States and American citizens there like, but we lost, we lost a lot of people in the Great Quake, and looking at the map because if I can, I talk about how the United States broke down quite a bit. We lost calf, a lot of California, we lost a lot of the just to the midwest or maybe the west of the East Eastern States, and everything was regionalized in the seven regions. Correct, And uh yeah, yeah, there's the Native lands up there, but yeah, the North, South, the Central region where the new capital is in by Kansas, the Appalachians, the Appalachian region, and then the West and then bad Lands. Right. I got the map pulled up now because I did that, I did that map for you the whole middle of the United States. It looks like I'm trying to lake. Yes. So, the Old Lalla Reservoir is actually a reservoir that stretches from the Painhandle of Texas all the way up into Nebraska. And in my stories, because of the Great Quake, it's actually very forest limestone under there, and we've been taking water out of that reservoir for so long it's starting to create this gap. So when the great quake happens, that all falls in and it creates this huge lake in the center of the United States called the Oldawalla Lake. And how many FEMA camps. Would you say you did you plot it out? Because I know you put a great amount of detail into your stories, and even if you didn't write it out on paper, you got it. Minneapolis is one. They just walled up the city. Bozeman is another one, basically they walled up the city. That's for the western region. Las Vegas is the biggest refugee camp that there is. And then there's another one that comes up in Illinois because there's a nuclear disaster there in Illinois. And then Texas went free. They seceded from the United States after the Great Quake because they wouldn't go along with the refugee adoption program, so they secede from the United States, and you know, it's still freedom rains down there. They trade oil to the United States in order to have you know, like food and some things like that that they're in need of. But yeah, so there's no FEMA camps down south. Where did at what point did the FEMA camps kind of graduate or transition into refugee camps. The well, they started building them. The walls were initially put up because of the chaos, so they needed to keep the people inside safe, right, But at those same time, those people inside were walling themselves in and then once you know, probably five years later, they start the infertilization program. That's when you start to see some of the big riots at the refugee camps because they're obviously not too thrilled about that. So it was just a walk in system that way, and then Walls of Freedom is actually nine years later, so it's pretty in stone. You know, they've had it in the works for a decade now of adopting families out to these landowners for factory labor, farm workers, that kind of thing. What if I told you you could own land for two hundred dollars down and highly affordable monthly payments. Your cheap land dot Com is your answer to bug out, land hunting, recreation, and whatever else your prepper mind can dream up. Your cheap land dot Com has properties in Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma, Arizona, Utah. Go to your Cheap land dot Com, check out the properties, use the promo code PBN and get one hundred dollars off your purchase. Well, with the advent of the World Economic Forums and all that that started back in the nineteen seventies, they've graduated many many. I mean they've had so many actresses, like elite organizations, elite people, actresses, actors, rich people, well you name it. That that every year they show up to these these these forums and these conferences and they try to come out with new ideas on how to save the earth. One of the the we'll call it, one of the babies of of this, uh these meetings was Agenda twenty one, which is now Agenda thirty because the GENA twenty one didn't happen, so now we're calling a Genda thirty. It's on the United. Nations cities, right, what's that the fifteen minute cities. Well that, yes, there is a big push to move people into cities, which is not where I'm going because that's a whole other thing that the whole city's thing is just because you could look around at all the all the all the liberal run cities right now and see that they're a huge failure. Right. I don't know how they think that pullowing people in the city is going to work out anything, But I was going to ask what your take is on because one of the main things with the whole, the whole let's balance the earth thing is the population. And they never ever talk about population or at least over population are depopulating the earth in these meetings, but they always do talk about they talk about balance with nature. Balance is a word that they use. Sustainable sustainable development is a buzzword that they use, which is basically a catchphrase for, you know, utilizing equal amounts of resources that the Earth gives us. So the Earth puts out resources and we consume an equal amount. That's the balance. And as you know, the Georgia guidestones that were destroyed a couple of years ago, there was a mention on there for a population cap perpetual five hundred million, and again the word balance was used to bring perpetual balance to the world. So what's your take on Do you think some natural, some disasters like what happened in your storyline has to happen for the Earth to start pushing for infertilization programs. Nope, because China already did infertilization programs and those actually didn't work out too well, you know, because people only wanted boys. They can only have one child. Now you've got a bunch of spoiled boys running around. So I think that people already thinking that way Hitler. The eugenics projects he put into a fact were actually mirrored off what they were doing in San Francisco and New York at the time. So I think that people have been concerned as far as that goes for a while. I do believe that Mother Nature is, you know, God put us on a planet that is alive and gave us our mother, and we are just a spec on this planet, and if she needs to take care of a population, she's more than capable of doing that. So I do have those beliefs deep rooted. What I think would be like, what could pull us out of the funk that we're in as a society, as a world without killing each other, Because I mean, unfortunately, there's always a disaster for humanity has its next big growth. So you can look at the dark ages before the Renaissance era, right, so there's always this whole horrific dark time before the brightest light comes. What I do think could bring us out of it without having a disaster like that? By all drothers, we need to move back to nature more. We need to incorporate our technology with our natural environment and learn to work with our earth much better. But I think having a focus for people, whenever we work together, we do a really good job. So even if it was like the space race where we were countries racing against each other to see who could get a man to the moon the fastest, you know, that was a great period of innovation and peace between one and I know the Cuban missile crisis happened in there and stuff. But still if you look at like, the humans are explorers and we've we think we've run out of things to explore, and our brains are these huge environments where we don't even know the potential of our brains and where we're going to go as a species. But also space is there, and I really think it's time that we start having missions as a planet to send people to Mars and to do these things and to keep exploring and to keep that juice really alive where we're working with each other to be able to reach our next big destination. But you know, people get wrecked up in material items and they in emotions and they don't want to think as a as a you know, an individual working for a common goal. And so it's really sad to see how much anger is just out there in the world just dripping with anger and hatred is really sad to see. So hopefully we can pull our heads out before that happens. But I do think I watch a lot of space news, I study a lot of suspicious observers as this gentleman Ben. He's an amazing scientist, and I do think we are due for our next Earth disaster before twenty forty, So we really need to be prepared and be harmonious with our planet so we can survive as a species and adapt and work together instead of you know, beat each other up while everything it's rough. Yeah, I think, you know, in what necessity is the mother of invention, they say, And right that being said, I agree with you. You know, I would love to you know, explore. I mean, the Starlink system is out there now, and for the first time ever, I've actually considered getting an Internet plugged into, you know, the Starling system, because it's I've read the reviews on it and it's really good, and it's at the same price and but faster as some of the cheaper stuff that I have access to now. But also we've we we don't even we have not even explored every our own planet. There's so much that we can do here. I mean, if I think before or we can do simultaneous. But it's very important I think that we utilize if you I saw a video and I don't know how accurate it was, but I guess some form of science went into it. They crammed eight billion people shouldered to shoulder into one space on the planet Earth, and it filled up I think I want to say it was the state of Michigan. I was thinking the same thing they gave. And even if you gave like everybody a one acre plot or something like that, it would only fill up Texas. Right, So I've heard statistic that it's like not nearly all this is just for control, it is, and they're just trying to fill our heads with fear so we can be controlled. It's all about control, which all this comes down to. I mean, every everything, your store, the stuff I write about, the stuff that's happening in the world. It's all about control. But yeah, I do believe we should explore explore own world, or the deserts we have, the oceans we have. I mean we could, I mean, if we if we're if we're already thinking about you know, putting sending people to Mars. You know, why aren't we thinking about building cities in the bottle of our own oceans and our seas? You know, right, that's more plausible and it can happen much faster because it's going to take thousands, tens of thousands of years to seed Mars, to put it to build an atmosphere. Right. But here, you know, on our own planet, we have everything that we need already. And it's really a shame too, because if you look at history, when people are most productive and most innovative is when they're free to do that without controls. And unfortunately, you know, it's just people with power, get more power, get more power, and then they want it all and so you know, but I mean that's what what the Bible says has to happen. So uh, you know, we'll just have to be along for the ride and saying our prayers. That's what I appreciate about people like Elon Musk, who who made the electric car and and just and gave the blueprint out said here you go, you know, and uh and made it so that. Anybody can amazing, Yeah, exactly. So this is not a guy that he's not he's not a government official, right, He's just a genius billionaire who's who's done these things and now he's got an entire satellite. He's an entrepreneur, he's a money maker, he's a businessman, and he's got these these satellites in space. State space ain't nobody's domain. It doesn't belong to China and belonged to America and the blowing to Russia. It's nobody's. It's whoever gets there and puts something in it, you know. But as far as you know, making things right, touching going back and touching on what you were saying about pulling our heads out of our butts and and I'm paraphrasing, and learning to get along and do things together. There's two major barriers and one miner barrier. I think that needs to happen, or that we need to overcome before and those things can happen. One is we have an economic issue, right because for years the United States dollar was the standard, and now China and Russia are trying to try and trying to pull their weight and make another standard. Okay, so we have an economic standard, and we have we have a religious boundary. There will never be peace on this earth as long as there are religions that are warring, never because. Which is so silly, I mean because like when you go back to grassroots of most of everything, it's all the same. And uh so I don't understand why people have to fight over their nuances of what goes on there. Well comes down to ideologies. Muslims for example, if they're if they're reading the Qur'an and they're taking in it, taking it at face value, because they don't have an Old Testament New Testament like we do. If because they blame they blame Christians for being violent, but yes, they were in the dark ages because they did. We didn't have our Bibles we did. It was kept from us, bibles, they written words kept from us. And so we were only told what the Bible said. And then the Bible and the Old Testament said, and I for and I are two for tooth, you know, to do these things the stone people, and you know, yes, so we had an early violent whatnot. But the Krown if you, if you want to take it literally tells you to rape and cut off the heads of the non believer and all this other stuff. So you got these extremists who make up Yes, they make up a small percentage of Islam, but a small percentage of a hundred million people that are that are extreme. That makes the other three hundred million I think that is left as as And that's a cap that's like, that's the most I can think. It's like one hundred and fifty to three hundred million peaceful Muslims. It makes them irrelevant, like they don't even they don't matter, because it's the violent ones that we got paid to now, yes, through theors, just like. The outliers and media. Yeah, and and there you have it. You got to you got And then the third, which is a minor thing is is language, and it's a it's a minor barrier. But English is quickly becoming the language of the world, and the Spanish h is probably I would say a secondary secondary, yeah, because it's it's uh, you know, Spanish is offered in almost every high school now when you're going you know, and then and then in English is required almost every country. Right, Yeah, there there is a lot of I was thinking Chinese like Mandarin, but yeah, I mean they they are all learning English over there as well so that they can understand the language of the world basically, Yeah, I don't know. You know, I always look back to like the Tower of Babble, when everybody was trying to you know, build the tower to to go see God, right, and God was like, wep, I'm gonna just everybody's got different languages and you all got different religions. And well, the reason why he did that to them, the confounded their language was because they had just they were just they had just replied started to replence the earth again after major flood that killed all the earth, right except for Noah and his family, right, And so they had it in their heart they were going to save themselves in case God was never fled the earth again. Right, God made a promise you would never fled the earth again. But people don't care about that. They only cared about, Hey, we're going to save ourselves. And every time you try to save yourself, God has to say, you know, I'm gonna knock you back down again because we cannot save ourselves. Well see, and that's why I'm hoping that there would be a divine intervention before anybody got stupid enough to hit a button on one of those nuclear weapons. So yeah, you know, and there's there's small things written in scripture, specifically in the Book of Revelations that you could probably you know, interpret Because I talked to to James Walton the other day the podcast just went up on on Prepper Broadcasting Network. We talked about nuclear this, and I talked about bitter waters because it's it's a it's possible that nuclear water could make, you know, I mean nuclear exposure, it could make, or nuclear. Leak or anything prophecy that like uh portals the Mississippi boiling from the amount from the gord of ashes falling right. But I could look at you know, and we can look at any anything. A lot of these things that are happening now could be considered intervention. Got intervention because I God, if God said this is going to happen, and he told John the Revelator, this is going to happen some two thousand some odd years ago, and and the things are slowly starting to happen now. Like the mark of the beast, Like, what is the mark of the beast, Well, it's the number of his name. What's the number of his name? Well, it's it's something that you want to have in your right hand. Who did nobody in two thousand years ago. Where are they? What's he talking about? But now here we are we see businesses putting chips in people's right hands and they go about their normal life. Instead of swapping a credit card, pulling out cash, they rub their hand over the locks of the doors down to get to Texas their business, they go to these vending machines, they run their hand over the skinners. No, nope, nope, no no. And that's honestly what fear. That's I'm not going to say fear because Jesus says in the Bible three hundred and sixty five times, do not be afraid. So that's one for each day. So he's got us covered there. But one of my concerns is that the chaos on the streets, with the amount of illegals that just came into our country, the amount of potential terrorist, that kind of thing, if there was enough chaos on our streets, that the average everyday person would start calling for guards on the streets because they don't want to protect themselves with their firearms, so they need to outsource that. So they would ask for yards on the street, and then that would give them an excuse to roll out their technology for all the surveillance tech that they would just love to roll out all over America, And that would be a way to have people actually ask for it themselves instead of, you know, we're going to force this upon you. Everybody would be very very against that, but if you can create enough chaos, then people would ask for it. And we just have to understand that our freedoms are so much more important than our security at any level, because the minute you give up your freedom for security, you've now made that decision for every generation behind you. Everything you just said was in my book is in book one of my Tyrant series. Right, That's why I love your books too. We do audio dramas. I will be Torri because yeah, I totally agree. And if I think that the Blue Hats wouldn't be here in a heartbeat, because I mean, let's just call a spade a spade. Basically, our government has been sold out to China a while ago, and what they did was get into office and try to break us down and destroy us as fast as they could. And now we'll just see what happens before the twenty twenty four election. But it's I'm of the opinion that that election will never happen. You could go either way because right now, if we go into if we go into wartime, the president has presidential powers and he could he could postpone an election. And then what to do next national disaster, then what happens done? Because you taught me it. Well, because in the event of a martial Okay, you go back to the Barack Obama's executive order that he wrote one three six year old three I believe it was that in that executive order, it never defines national emergency. It just says an event of a national emergency and it's called the national in the Natural Prepared This Act, it's probably front right now. But in that in that act, it says many times about natural disaster or national emergency, but never says it exactly, never defines what national emergency is. Right, So, any any. Executive care those politicians say those words, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no nope. Because they're just buzzwords that all they do is say because people are so willing. And we saw this with the COVID nineteen with this vaccine thing here, eighty percent of all Americans just okay, and they went and got this thing injected into them, not knowing what was in it or anything. I know, and Pfizer had I'm sorry, but they had just been through one of the biggest criminal lawsuits ever. And nobody cares. Nobody cares. They turned around and put that stuff in their body anyway. Like the government says, it's okay, and then everybody that doesn't do it is the bad guy. Right. Oh yeah, I didn't wear a mask at all if you remember it at the time. But if you remember at the time, they were telling you, they're saying, well, look at you. You're not you're not wearing a mask. You're threatening us, you know, yeah, you're not vaccinated. You know, you're you're you're risking us. Well, if you're vaccinated, what you're worried about me exactly? But here we found out later on that getting vaccinated it didn't even stop you from spreading or stop you from getting. It or getting it. Yes, So what was the point well. Sitation at all? Because in two thousand and eight I had really really bad stomach issues going on. Things were going wrong inside of me, and I went from you know, working out five hours a day in martial arts and whatnot and working ten hour day with a five hour workout to being in the fetal position on the sofa and had doctors tell me it was because I wasn't taking enough pharmaceutical pills. I'm sorry what? And then this other doctor called said up, because you're a female, you're a hypochondriac. About knock that dude's teeth down his freaking throat. I walked out of that doctor's office. I threw every single pill he had prescribed me, and I found a doctor who did Eastern and Western medicine was willing to look at the whole body. And it ended up that my gallbladder wasn't pumping properly. But in the meantime, what I went through where they were just telling me, you know, you have to take this, you have to take that, you have to take this. No, I learned to say no. I vote. I've never been afraid to say no since I was a kid, and so when this whole situation came up, it was like, no, not me and not my family. Oh so this this I was a state employee back when when this was first, this man he first started and I'm not like you, I'm not a sheep. I'm gonna stunt gonna run out because the government says do this, and do it because there still needed to be studies. I still needed to see that, you know. And when later on I found I wasn't even vaccine at all. Where I was mRNA mri yeh. Yeah, it was a genetic modifier. And the CDC had to go back and they had to change the definition of vaccine. Yes, yeah, qualify. It was absolutely ridiculous. Plus how many times are you sitting there watching TV and they're like, oh, well, if you took this, you could be have a lawsuit. If you took that, you could have a lawsuit. If you did this, you could have a lawsuit. So I was just sitting there going, Okay, well how long is it till we're going to be watching these commercials? I go, if you took this vaccination, you could have a lawsuit. But they can't do that because of it's a vaccination. They have all kinds of rules set up by the government to them. Yep, inimnified exactly. So I took this medicine a long time ago because I had a pituitary cyst in my brain. I took a medicine that caused my as a side effect, It got rid of the peduitary syst but as a side effect, thick in my heart walls. So and then I go on to see later on many people dying a mile carditis right of an inflammation of the heart muscle. So I sit here and think what would have happened if I would have been one of those sheep and said, and hear me with already with thick and heart muscles, go and takes this thing, and it I have an information my heart would would seize on me. I could have died. And so you know, I knew that I made the right decision. I knew very early on when any time the government Mandy's something, there's a huge red flag for me, huge red flag, yep, because again it goes back to control. It does. It always comes back to control. And so yeah, I mean my book series, that's that's what it's all about, is basically like the one side, Swenson side is the ultimate control er. They're gonna they're gonna walk the United States into the future through a socialist regime where you have clear overpower of those people versus the people who are still just wanting to live free. And you know, I show both sides of each there's good and there's bad. There's way more bad of the controlside balls on the freedom side. Some of the towns turn into like, you know, like brothels and pretty nitty gritty stuff because there's no law there to say you can't do that, you know, and not all the sheep dogs are out fighting the battle to try and keep everybody free. So you don't have the sheep dog, I say sheep dogs. These are a very special class of person. I mostly think of it as a male who is you and my husband and Jen Gibson and James uh They these these men who want to protect their community, want to take care of their community, want all of their people gathered up in the middle so they can go do overwatch, you know, and these so when I use the term sheep dog, it's in a very very loving way, because these are the essential, you know, men in our community who are willing to sacrifice themselves to take care of the whole. And when they're all off fighting battle, you're usually laughed with a class of people who you know, are willing to do They don't want to go battle and fight for the right things, so there, what are they doing back in the town, the community, probably not very good things you see that, you see those sides. As a police officer, I can tell you that there's I've read a lot of books on and there's there's one book a particular calling I want to say. It's called The pac Mentality, and it talks about the wolves and it talks about the sheep dog. So to add to what you're saying about the sheep dog, a sheep dog, like the wolf, is a canine. The wolf is a very powerful creature. And the sheep that the sheep dog protect are We'll just say they're civilians. You just people just want to live life. They're not really paying attention to the good to the bad. They just know that they can lay down at night and know that somebody's out there protecting them. Well, that in comes the sheep dog. The sheep dog is also a canaine like the wolf, but the sheep dog is designed to protect because he has a great capacity for violence. But he uses that capacity to protect the sheep right from the wolves. Exactly exactly. Well, Sarah, we've been on for an hour. I just want to give you you got about a minute or however long you want to to tell us what you got going on right now. Right now, everybody can head over to Change in Our Series dot com check out all my stuff there. Right now, I am doing a big Hollywood push, So hopefully we're going to see a day after disaster of the movie or the Change in Her series and a TV show within you know, at least a couple of years. I've been I've been beaten at those doors for a while, So we'll see what happens. If it's in within God's will. Like I said earlier, I would I would give up every dream I have for my family. So as long as my family's good, I'm good. But that's it's really been the main project beyond doing the audio drama, and the audio drama takes up a bunch of my time. Very fun project. Highly recommend people go check that out. You can download the Changing Earth Audio Drama at all of your podcast platforms, or just go over to Changing our Series dot com and all of my stuff is over there. You can learn new survival information. I have pages and pages and pages of survival information. You can read epic stories, you can listen to epic stories. That's just a really cool website that I've put together for my main hub. I'm really excited. I can't wait to see what the future holds for you. Sarah, congratulations on everything that you've done, all your hard work. I'm looking really I'm looking forward to seeing that go to the big screen or series or Netflix, whatever goes to. Just to know that I was a part of that in some way, it's really exciting. Right. Yeah, it's a long process and it's makes a lot of perseverance. Well, hey, I want to thank you for joining us tonight. Hang on here for a second after I close out, and I'll chat it with you, all right, PC. I want to thank everybody for listening to The Rising Republic with L. Douglas Hoagan. I want to everybody if you can, to head over to Sarah F. 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