Anything But Doom: Warhammer 40k

[00:00:00] PBN Family, welcome into Anything But Doom. The show where you get to take a break from the prepping and survival and doomsday and lizard pedophiles running the world and politics and so forth. This show has been a long time coming. It's hard sometimes for me to fit these in. But this one here has been a long time coming.

[00:00:27] About, I don't know, well it was definitely June. I think it was around June actually. Might have been May. Been a while now. May, yeah, I think it was back in May.

[00:00:43] I can't remember how it happened. But what I remember is saying to myself, should I play Warhammer? No, no, no, no, no. There's no way.

[00:01:00] I really can't remember why or how I got into it. It may have been like an Instagram post or like some guy painting a model or something like that and normally, you know, something like...

[00:01:12] A little back, real quick backstory. Warhammer models used to be made of like pewter or something.

[00:01:18] And I used to see him in this comic book store in the Granite Run Mall that I used to go to.

[00:01:28] And I'd look at him and I'd be like, this is the dumbest thing in the world.

[00:01:32] Like I'd see the guys, and I was little, you know what I mean? Like 10, 11, 12, maybe 13.

[00:01:38] And I'd see these guys playing in the back and I'd be like, this has got to be the like dorkiest shit I've ever seen in my life.

[00:01:44] What do you do? You buy them. They were expensive. You buy them, you take them home, you paint them.

[00:01:48] Then you bring them back. And then you play war with your friends.

[00:01:54] And I thought that I relegated Warhammer to this like...

[00:01:59] Like if there's like a list of things that are dorky, like the top of the heap is Warhammer.

[00:02:04] That's what it was in my head and it was just off limits. It was radiological, radioactive.

[00:02:09] You know what I mean?

[00:02:12] And many of you probably understand this, but you reach a certain age and you stop caring about perception as much.

[00:02:21] Particularly when it's not hurting anyone and you're not doing anything bad.

[00:02:25] You really stop caring about perception and start caring about passion and what moves you.

[00:02:31] Or at least I hope you do.

[00:02:32] You know, because the clock's ticking, baby. It's almost a wrap for all of us.

[00:02:36] You know, what do you got? 30? 40? How many years you got left? Do what you want.

[00:02:41] It had to be an audio book of some kind or a lore podcast of some kind somehow.

[00:02:52] I can't even remember now how I got into this, funny enough.

[00:02:56] But I found myself listening to stories about Warhammer lore.

[00:03:02] YouTube channels about Warhammer lore.

[00:03:06] And listening to the lore, I know it was that.

[00:03:10] I know it was the backstory that got me.

[00:03:13] And sitting there and thinking to myself,

[00:03:16] There's something to this.

[00:03:17] And I wanted to talk to you about it.

[00:03:21] Because there is something to it.

[00:03:23] It's very weird.

[00:03:25] Because in the grimdark future of the 41st millennium,

[00:03:30] There is only war.

[00:03:33] That's sort of the Warhammer 40,000 tagline.

[00:03:39] And that's fundamentally what it is.

[00:03:42] It's humanity is beset on all sides by aliens and demons.

[00:03:49] And we're struggling to survive.

[00:03:51] And see, I have a soft spot for humanity.

[00:03:55] Imagine that.

[00:03:56] Okay?

[00:03:57] I get real excited about humanity and desperation.

[00:04:00] It's one of the reasons I play video games.

[00:04:02] And it's one of the reasons why

[00:04:06] I fall so head over heels into certain video games.

[00:04:09] Like, if the story is human.

[00:04:12] And if the story is good.

[00:04:13] And if the story is...

[00:04:15] If there's a lot on the line.

[00:04:17] You know what I mean?

[00:04:17] I love a video game where everything's on the line.

[00:04:22] Then I'm in.

[00:04:22] And it could be everything on the line for a handful of people.

[00:04:25] Or everything on the line for the world.

[00:04:28] And that's what Warhammer is.

[00:04:30] You know, Warhammer is fundamentally the story of mankind in the 41st millennium.

[00:04:37] We have lived Elon Musk's dream.

[00:04:42] And taken to the stars.

[00:04:44] We have seeded...

[00:04:46] I don't know how many planets.

[00:04:48] I have no clue how many planets.

[00:04:50] But I'm sure it's hundreds.

[00:04:52] And there are literal hundreds of planets in this lore that is 40 years old.

[00:04:56] Or 50 years old now.

[00:04:57] Whatever it is.

[00:04:59] And every planet has a name.

[00:05:00] And every planet has a hive.

[00:05:02] The cities that people live in are called hives.

[00:05:04] And every planet is fundamentally dedicated to the war effort in its respective area.

[00:05:14] And there's a bleakness to it, of course.

[00:05:17] But one of the first things that I fell in love with about Warhammer was...

[00:05:23] The humans don't fight.

[00:05:28] In other words...

[00:05:29] In the hive city, you're like born into poverty and almost slavery, right?

[00:05:36] And you're just a guy who...

[00:05:37] And you're just a guy who...

[00:05:38] Like mines rock out of the side of a planet to make bolter pistols for the space marines to go to war with the Tyranid Xenomorph-esque aliens.

[00:05:52] And that's your entire existence.

[00:05:54] You know what I mean?

[00:05:55] And it's misery and you die.

[00:05:56] Or you get drafted into the Astra Militarum, which is basically, you know, the regular human army.

[00:06:03] But the regular human army can hardly stand up to any threat in the universe now.

[00:06:11] The threats in the universe are so massive and powerful that the Astra Militarum is just fodder.

[00:06:19] Now, it's important to note that all of this is going down.

[00:06:29] This gigantic war.

[00:06:31] And America...

[00:06:32] I mean, not America, but humanity on a whole is completely united.

[00:06:36] Well, maybe not completely.

[00:06:37] I don't know the lore well enough to say that.

[00:06:38] But humanity is largely united across galaxies.

[00:06:43] And it's because of the...

[00:06:47] Well, in some part it's because of the worship of a god-emperor-man.

[00:06:53] So fundamentally, humans in their early stages of...

[00:07:01] I don't know what millennium.

[00:07:02] 30,000, I think it was.

[00:07:06] Started getting psychic abilities from a place called the warp.

[00:07:12] Now, humanity used the warp to travel space.

[00:07:16] It's like, you know, the way you would think of a wormhole or something like this.

[00:07:19] Very Event Horizon, if you remember that movie.

[00:07:21] It's almost...

[00:07:22] Event Horizon fundamentally stole this concept from Warhammer.

[00:07:28] I don't know the whole lore on the warp and when it showed up or when we found it or whatever the situation was.

[00:07:34] But suffice it to say that eventually we realized you could travel the warp at light speed

[00:07:38] and wind up in different places in the galaxy really fast.

[00:07:42] And that's how we began to populate planets.

[00:07:46] And what we later found out is that the warp was basically hell.

[00:07:50] Filled with the forces of chaos.

[00:07:52] And the forces of chaos are largely demons.

[00:07:56] And they're governed by like four main demons.

[00:08:00] And I don't even know all their names.

[00:08:02] Slaanesh is one.

[00:08:05] Nurgle is one.

[00:08:06] Korn is one.

[00:08:07] And there's a fourth one, I don't know.

[00:08:09] Maybe it's only three.

[00:08:10] I don't know.

[00:08:11] I'm new.

[00:08:14] But anyway, the proximity of the warp or the use of the warp or whatever it was started to give humans psychic abilities.

[00:08:21] We started to develop things we never had before.

[00:08:29] I don't know it well enough to go into deep detail.

[00:08:32] But fundamentally like things started going real bad.

[00:08:36] We couldn't travel the warp for a while.

[00:08:38] Our planets were like cannibalizing themselves.

[00:08:43] And out of nowhere appears this sort of god-like man known as the emperor.

[00:08:53] He becomes the emperor of mankind.

[00:08:55] He's the strongest psyker and the strongest human being ever to live.

[00:09:00] And he becomes god basically to these people.

[00:09:06] He becomes god to almost everyone.

[00:09:08] Everything is for the glory of the emperor.

[00:09:10] By the will of the emperor.

[00:09:12] Everything is the emperor.

[00:09:13] You know?

[00:09:16] You go to war, your weapons are inscribed with, you know, for the glory of the imperium of mankind.

[00:09:23] For the emperor.

[00:09:24] So on and so forth.

[00:09:26] One of the things that, and listen, Warhammer is made to be a dystopian, nightmarish life.

[00:09:34] And one of the things that struck me about my own perception of Warhammer right off the bat was,

[00:09:39] I was like, wow.

[00:09:40] Wouldn't it be sweet if all of mankind was united to fight orcs?

[00:09:46] Wouldn't it be sweet if all of mankind was united in a battle against the chaos demons?

[00:09:55] This was my instinct.

[00:09:56] And then when I sat there and thought about it, I was like, wow.

[00:10:00] That's desperate.

[00:10:02] That's some serious desperation right there, my man.

[00:10:06] I yearned for this idea that all of humanity could be united around one cause.

[00:10:12] You know what I mean?

[00:10:13] And that's not to say that these worlds aren't without, you know, their own problems and crime and things like that.

[00:10:18] But it's just, you know, this idea of united humanity.

[00:10:25] Even though they're living hell.

[00:10:27] You know what I mean?

[00:10:27] Life in all aspects of the Imperium is largely living hell.

[00:10:31] The Imperium of mankind is basically our big, gigantic swath.

[00:10:38] You know what I mean?

[00:10:38] We've conquered everything.

[00:10:41] We beat back the Xenos, which is what we call the alien.

[00:10:47] We beat back all the forces and crushed them.

[00:10:50] And now they're sort of making a new stand.

[00:10:57] I'm not going to go into the different enemies.

[00:10:59] We could do that at another time if you want.

[00:11:04] So as we began to fight, our enemies began to learn.

[00:11:10] And we found that, you know, these guys are a lot stronger than we thought.

[00:11:15] And we need a new weapon.

[00:11:16] And there were several iterations of what would become a space marine.

[00:11:20] But eventually the Emperor, who was also a genius, created the Astarte.

[00:11:31] The Adeptus Astarte, which is the space marine.

[00:11:33] And what we're talking about with a space marine is a human-ish that is highly modified.

[00:11:45] So something that starts as a human being.

[00:11:50] And retains all of its sort of his human-noid shape and all that kind of stuff.

[00:11:57] But he goes through death trials fundamentally to see if he could survive.

[00:12:03] And if he survives, then he can go through the surgeries to become.

[00:12:10] Not like transgenderism or anything like that.

[00:12:13] He goes through these surgeries where organs are added to his body.

[00:12:22] Numerous things.

[00:12:23] Injections and all these different things are added to the young boy.

[00:12:27] You know, we're talking about early teens at this point.

[00:12:29] And a lot of them die from the surgery.

[00:12:32] But the ones that survive grow to be about 8 feet tall.

[00:12:37] They have two hearts.

[00:12:38] They have like multiple organs.

[00:12:42] You know, like multitudes of internal organs.

[00:12:46] So that if one is punctured, they can keep fighting.

[00:12:51] They can eat their enemies and see what they're thinking.

[00:12:56] So that, you know, you kill an enemy combatant.

[00:12:59] You can eat them and see like, oh, okay, this is their plan.

[00:13:02] They're not like super, they're not like invulnerable superheroes or anything like that.

[00:13:09] But they can be killed just like humans can be killed.

[00:13:13] You decapitate them, they're dead.

[00:13:14] They're not healing or anything.

[00:13:15] They do heal quicker.

[00:13:16] They can go longer without food and water.

[00:13:18] And then they get encased in these power armor suits, right?

[00:13:23] And these power armor suits make the 8 foot tall, supercharged human being even more sort of, you know, impervious and powerful.

[00:13:35] And these guys are, you know, dubbed the Angels of Death.

[00:13:39] And they're broken down into numerous factions.

[00:13:43] And when you play the game, Warhammer 40,000, you typically commit to one of these factions if you're going to play Space Marines, you know.

[00:13:55] These Adeptus Astartes, they show up when things get bleak, you know, or they take on massive amounts of enemies.

[00:14:03] They are far superior to the enemy, though the enemy has numbers, which that kind of balances things out.

[00:14:12] And what's happening in the world at large or in the universe at large right now as it stands in Warhammer 40K is, you know, it's, oh my God, all the trees are decorated already.

[00:14:25] Took my breath away.

[00:14:27] Anyway, what's happening at large right now is sort of a war against all these alien factions and humanity.

[00:14:38] The other thing that really kind of gets me when it comes to these Adeptus Astartes is they're born for war.

[00:14:52] It's a men-only situation.

[00:14:55] They're born only for war.

[00:14:57] They live to die for the Emperor and for the Imperium of Mankind.

[00:15:03] There is no pain.

[00:15:05] There is no emotion.

[00:15:06] There is no fear.

[00:15:08] You know what I mean?

[00:15:09] But they are still a little human.

[00:15:13] Barely.

[00:15:16] They're unabashedly masculine and violent and deadly and, like I said, honorable and fearless.

[00:15:24] And the thing, and why this is blowing up right now and why I think Warhammer is going to blow up even more

[00:15:31] is because men were cheated out of this mentality if you grew up in the 90s for the most part unless you had like a good dad or something like that.

[00:15:43] But for the most part we were bred to be agreeable little boys.

[00:15:48] You know what I mean?

[00:15:49] And it may be even worse now, years after.

[00:15:53] It could be even worse.

[00:15:55] But fundamentally the average male has been on a path of agreeableness, right?

[00:16:00] Get along and behave and be nice and, you know, do these things this way and, you know, chill out with the toxic masculinity.

[00:16:08] And, you know, the biggest lie of all that men were told is that the world is a peaceful place and, you know, the police and the military will keep you safe.

[00:16:17] That was the bullshit that I grew up with that was totally fake, right?

[00:16:21] I mean, it was totally fake.

[00:16:25] But whatever, we bought into it and we, you know, kids like me grew up with this mentality, such a silly ass mentality that, like, I don't even need to learn how to fight.

[00:16:34] Like, why even learn how to fight?

[00:16:36] For what?

[00:16:38] I got cops.

[00:16:39] We get the most powerful military in all the world and all that kind of stuff.

[00:16:41] Why even waste my time learning how to fight?

[00:16:46] And it was a great pitfall.

[00:16:48] It was like a disaster.

[00:16:49] You know what I mean?

[00:16:50] For generations of people.

[00:16:53] In my opinion.

[00:16:56] You know what I mean?

[00:16:56] Like, we look to superheroes.

[00:16:58] We look to these other guys who are allowed to be violent on television, who are allowed to be masculine on television.

[00:17:04] And, you know, meanwhile, we, not me, but my kin, right?

[00:17:10] And then my ilk were taking Ritalin to mask what they really were.

[00:17:16] You know what I mean?

[00:17:17] Like, warriors were subjected to Ritalin.

[00:17:19] So that they could be more agreeable and sit still.

[00:17:24] You know what I mean?

[00:17:25] Like, this really happened in our history.

[00:17:28] This is not Warhammer lore.

[00:17:29] And the reason the Space Marines are getting so popular, and I think will continue to get so popular, is because their sole purpose is murder.

[00:17:43] You know what I mean?

[00:17:44] Their sole purpose is murder in the defense of the Imperium of Mankind and the Emperor.

[00:17:52] And there is no room for anything else.

[00:17:54] They don't joke.

[00:17:56] They don't play around.

[00:17:57] You know what I mean?

[00:17:58] There's no, they're not married.

[00:18:00] There's none, there's no time.

[00:18:03] They learn, and also these Astartes, these Space Marine factions are devoted to the Emperor and insanely religious.

[00:18:17] So, not only are they walking death machines, but they are also insanely religious.

[00:18:24] Not to God, to the God Emperor, okay?

[00:18:27] Which, you know, it's sci-fi, okay?

[00:18:29] You can't, it's not a one for one.

[00:18:32] But all they do in their free time is train and pray.

[00:18:35] And they have these gigantic halls and these gothic vestibules and cathedrals and so on, where they, at large, like multitudes of them, bow their head in prayer and recite litanies.

[00:18:49] And they even put these beautiful, what are they called?

[00:18:55] I have almost bought one of these things a hundred times.

[00:18:59] About a hundred times I've sat and looked at one of these things.

[00:19:03] And I can't, purity scrolls.

[00:19:07] These purity scrolls.

[00:19:08] And when they go into battle, they put these purity, well, they have these purity scrolls, like, waxed onto them.

[00:19:17] They're basically like a wax symbol, usually of a skull, for the Imperium of Man.

[00:19:23] And then, like, a tiny, thin strip of scroll with litanies and blessings written all over the thing.

[00:19:30] And then they are literally blessed.

[00:19:32] And litanies read aloud to them.

[00:19:35] And then, you know, holy water splashed on them before they head out into the field of battle.

[00:19:41] And this is a whole other, like, layer of the space marines.

[00:19:45] They even have leadership, like chaplains.

[00:19:51] There's, like, chaplains in the leadership, in the hierarchy that go to fight.

[00:19:56] They go to war.

[00:19:58] These chaplains are badass, man.

[00:20:01] And it's a really deep lore, guys.

[00:20:06] I mean, it's a really deep and wild story.

[00:20:08] And what I never expected in a million years was for me to look at these guys and go, like, you know, there's something very liberating about that.

[00:20:19] In a world like we live in today, man, and I'll just be frank about it, like, everybody's got challenges, first of all.

[00:20:27] Right?

[00:20:27] It is what it is.

[00:20:28] Everybody's got struggles.

[00:20:29] Everybody's got challenges.

[00:20:31] That's real life.

[00:20:34] But men are in a pretty weird position right now.

[00:20:36] They're in a pretty bad position.

[00:20:38] You know?

[00:20:39] I think there's a lot of guys stuck under – they're stuck under this weird rock where it's like, especially if you're a white dude, you're supposed to be successful.

[00:20:53] Because the lie is that white privilege exists and white dominance and all that kind of stuff.

[00:21:00] And the patriarchy has ruled over women and minorities, the white patriarchy.

[00:21:07] And if you understand history even a little bit, like – when I say understand history, like if you had a great grandfather and you talked to him or a grandfather and you talked to him, you could that easily understand.

[00:21:20] Like, most white guys weren't part of the white dominance patriarchy.

[00:21:28] Right?

[00:21:28] Like the patriarchy ruled by some elite class of whites.

[00:21:34] Most of us had no part in that.

[00:21:38] Yet we live in a society that – oh, you know, I think it might change maybe.

[00:21:43] There's potential for it to change finally.

[00:21:44] But we live in a society where every white guy is punished for that.

[00:21:49] You know what I mean?

[00:21:50] And every guy in general is punished for the patriarchy in general and toxic masculinity.

[00:21:58] Every – everybody.

[00:22:00] You know, the only group that dodges the toxic masculinity is somehow the rappers.

[00:22:08] I don't know how that – I don't know how that works.

[00:22:11] But the rap artists somehow duck that completely.

[00:22:14] You know, they literally call women bitches in their songs.

[00:22:17] But somehow you don't – we rarely hear anybody be like, you know, we need to stop this hip-hop stuff.

[00:22:24] But whatever.

[00:22:25] It is what it is.

[00:22:28] Being told that, you know, you suck and you're awful and you've subjugated everyone around you and you've played a big role in that and you're thinking to yourself, like, I look at my resume of life.

[00:22:45] I don't see any of that.

[00:22:46] What exactly are we talking about?

[00:22:48] What exactly have I done?

[00:22:50] But being a part of that and then being told, of course, that, you know, your masculinity is toxic.

[00:22:56] And when my son was in elementary school, I loved this.

[00:22:58] This was one of my fondest memories.

[00:23:00] I need to write this down so I don't forget.

[00:23:02] But one of my fondest memories of picking Carter up was I'd pick him up from kindergarten, right?

[00:23:09] And he would come out.

[00:23:10] And I'd pick him up.

[00:23:13] All right, man.

[00:23:13] Cool.

[00:23:14] Let's go home and have fun.

[00:23:16] And he would say, hold on.

[00:23:19] And he would run to the playground.

[00:23:21] And I'd follow him to the playground.

[00:23:22] And he'd go underneath the slide, you know, the sliding board.

[00:23:29] And he would dig out a stick that was shaped like a gun.

[00:23:32] And he'd be like, I found this stick gun today.

[00:23:34] So I had to hide it.

[00:23:36] Because the teachers, of course, lose their mind if you had a stick gun and you were pointing it at kids.

[00:23:40] Because that would make you an active shooter in their mind, I guess.

[00:23:45] But in the face of all of that, it's so refreshing.

[00:23:49] And in sort of the atmosphere of the lost man, right?

[00:23:55] Where men are kind of like, I don't know what to do.

[00:23:57] Should I get married?

[00:23:58] Should I not get married?

[00:23:59] They tell me if I get married and she leaves, I lose everything.

[00:24:02] You know, and most of these women out here seem to be a little crazy.

[00:24:05] I don't know what to do.

[00:24:07] What should I do for a living?

[00:24:08] There's these guys on YouTube that I watch.

[00:24:10] They look like they're doing nothing.

[00:24:12] And they're making millions of dollars.

[00:24:13] Meanwhile, I'm, you know, cleaning cars at the carpool and working my ass off.

[00:24:18] It's not working.

[00:24:19] I went to college.

[00:24:20] That ain't working.

[00:24:22] They're like stuck in this.

[00:24:24] And even guys who are married.

[00:24:25] You know what I mean?

[00:24:26] You're married and things ain't going well with the kids.

[00:24:29] Ain't going well in the relationship.

[00:24:30] Am I being too tough on them?

[00:24:33] And I'm, you know, am I telling her too much of what to do?

[00:24:36] Or am I not telling her enough what to do?

[00:24:38] Does she want somebody to take control?

[00:24:39] I'm not making enough money so I can't.

[00:24:42] Whatever the situation is, right?

[00:24:45] Men two, three generations ago basically had a plan.

[00:24:49] And they had a method, right?

[00:24:51] There were things they'd do and things they wouldn't do.

[00:24:54] They gave birth to the 50-50 relationship.

[00:24:56] And then all of a sudden men don't know what to do.

[00:24:58] Women don't know what to do.

[00:24:59] You know, women go to work, make money.

[00:25:01] The men are at home.

[00:25:03] Washing dishes, doing laundry.

[00:25:05] And everybody's confused.

[00:25:06] Because the roles that have existed forever have been swapped.

[00:25:11] You know, it all leads you back to this idea of murder and prey.

[00:25:21] And I'm telling you right now, like, that simple focus in fantasy form.

[00:25:29] Now, not in reality, but in fantasy form.

[00:25:32] Like, the idea that something like that could exist, I think is very alluring to people.

[00:25:38] You know, you're not teasing characters out in Warhammer.

[00:25:41] You're not like, what's the lighter side of the Black Templars?

[00:25:43] No.

[00:25:45] No.

[00:25:46] The lighter side is the fire that comes out of their pyroblasters, right?

[00:25:50] There is no lighter side.

[00:25:53] There is no deeper story.

[00:25:55] You're not going to dig down and find a sweet core in these guys, right?

[00:25:59] They're there to drop out of the sky and cut aliens in half and shoot demons in the face

[00:26:08] and go home and pray to the emperor of mankind.

[00:26:14] And that mission, that singular mission, man, is very freeing, I think.

[00:26:20] And I think it's very alluring to a confused, generations of confused men now.

[00:26:26] Who have a pretty good idea or maybe have no idea of where life is going.

[00:26:34] So those are two things I never imagined that this would, you know, this game slash story would do for me.

[00:26:43] Or that would open my eyes to, right?

[00:26:46] Now, I can't talk about everything Warhammer that I want to talk about because it's 30 minutes already.

[00:26:53] But there's a whole modeling aspect to it and there's a whole political undertone that really took me by surprise in the game right now.

[00:27:03] And it just, it's a very deep hole.

[00:27:07] It's a whole lot of fun, guys.

[00:27:11] For me.

[00:27:12] Maybe not for everybody.

[00:27:14] You know, I'm a little artsy and all that kind of stuff.

[00:27:16] But it's a whole lot of fun.

[00:27:18] I'm having a really good time with it.

[00:27:20] And I thought I'd give you a brief on what's going on with it.

[00:27:25] You know, what it is out there in the world.

[00:27:27] I have a feeling it's going to get more popular.

[00:27:29] We're just at the beginning of it.

[00:27:33] But yeah.

[00:27:34] Warhammer.

[00:27:36] Warhammer.

[00:27:37] I'm not saying it's something you need to get into.

[00:27:38] I'm just enlightening you on a topic you may know nothing about.

[00:27:42] Other than the fact that it's like boxes of expensive plastic toys for adults.

[00:27:47] Models that they put together and paint.

[00:27:51] Yeah.

[00:27:52] I'm loving it.

[00:27:53] It's such a great release and escape from the noise of life.

[00:27:59] You know what I mean?

[00:28:00] And I don't mean like family and kids.

[00:28:02] But sometimes.

[00:28:03] Yeah.

[00:28:03] Sometimes.

[00:28:04] But largely, you know, the political scene and all that kind of stuff.

[00:28:08] But this has been anything but doom, folks.

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